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12/20/2015 1:34:35 PM
Posted: 11 months ago
If you study Psychology there is a part of it that is called self talk. This "inner voice" can build you up to things such as confidence, happiness, joy, etc, or it can break you down to sadness, despair, low self esteem, etc. Is Atheism simply negative sekf talk/focusing on the negative. Is it plain and simply a self defeating belief system?

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12/20/2015 2:22:51 PM
Posted: 11 months ago
At 12/20/2015 1:34:35 PM, GrittyWorm wrote:
If you study Psychology there is a part of it that is called self talk. This "inner voice" can build you up to things such as confidence, happiness, joy, etc, or it can break you down to sadness, despair, low self esteem, etc. Is Atheism simply negative sekf talk/focusing on the negative. Is it plain and simply a self defeating belief system?


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Did you notice the challenging questions to ask yourself? This is where religious beliefs will fail and atheism has no problem...

1. Reality Testing
2. Look for alternative explanations
3. Putting it in perspective
4. Using goal-directed thinking
Marrying a 6 year old and waiting until she reaches puberty and maturity before having consensual sex is better than walking up to
a stranger in a bar and proceeding to have relations with no valid proof of the intent of the person. Muhammad wins. ~ Fatihah
If they don't want to be killed then they have to subdue to the Islamic laws. - Uncung
Without God, you are lower than sh!t. ~ SpiritandTruth
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12/21/2015 1:02:05 AM
Posted: 11 months ago
At 12/20/2015 1:34:35 PM, GrittyWorm wrote:
If you study Psychology there is a part of it that is called self talk. This "inner voice" can build you up to things such as confidence, happiness, joy, etc, or it can break you down to sadness, despair, low self esteem, etc. Is Atheism simply negative sekf talk/focusing on the negative. Is it plain and simply a self defeating belief system?


http://psychcentral.com...
Why do you despise atheists so much? Is it because of your jealousy that the don't have a religious crutch?
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12/21/2015 1:12:16 AM
Posted: 11 months ago
At 12/21/2015 1:02:05 AM, janesix wrote:
At 12/20/2015 1:34:35 PM, GrittyWorm wrote:
If you study Psychology there is a part of it that is called self talk. This "inner voice" can build you up to things such as confidence, happiness, joy, etc, or it can break you down to sadness, despair, low self esteem, etc. Is Atheism simply negative sekf talk/focusing on the negative. Is it plain and simply a self defeating belief system?


http://psychcentral.com...
Why do you despise atheists so much? Is it because of your jealousy that the don't have a religious crutch?

I don't hate Atheists. If I did I wouldn't reach out to them to help them get out of their own way. Atheism is a defeative belief system that can be overcome with positive concepts, beliefs, and focus. Negative speak and beliefs are self destructive. When Christopher Hitchians was battling cancer, he was okay with people praying for him. Before cancer he stated that he would not get rid of theism even if he had the full power to do so. He recognized in his own demise that having God to lean on in trouble may not be such a bad thing(whether imaginary or truth). He also found some sense of okayness with thousands praying for him during his trouble. Did he convert? Probably not. But he did recognize that belief is not neccessarily bad even from his unbelief perspective. To fight belief and faith at every turn is as defeating as it can get. It is the defense of accepting demise only and focussing on it and combatting anyone that uses belief by fully enguaging faith with fully negative speech such as "stupid", "idiot", "godbotherer", etc. Atheism is the full denouncing of faith or belief. It is giving up on optimism and hope which are the foundation of happiness and joy in psychology.
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12/21/2015 1:15:03 AM
Posted: 11 months ago
At 12/20/2015 1:34:35 PM, GrittyWorm wrote:
If you study Psychology there is a part of it that is called self talk. This "inner voice" can build you up to things such as confidence, happiness, joy, etc, or it can break you down to sadness, despair, low self esteem, etc. Is Atheism simply negative sekf talk/focusing on the negative. Is it plain and simply a self defeating belief system?


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Our Creator is responsible for all the thoughts of His created people. He chose a few of them to listen to His voice ( the true gospel ) and learn how He created everything.
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12/21/2015 1:19:22 AM
Posted: 11 months ago
At 12/21/2015 1:15:03 AM, aquilla wrote:
At 12/20/2015 1:34:35 PM, GrittyWorm wrote:
If you study Psychology there is a part of it that is called self talk. This "inner voice" can build you up to things such as confidence, happiness, joy, etc, or it can break you down to sadness, despair, low self esteem, etc. Is Atheism simply negative sekf talk/focusing on the negative. Is it plain and simply a self defeating belief system?


http://psychcentral.com... : :

Our Creator is responsible for all the thoughts of His created people. He chose a few of them to listen to His voice ( the true gospel ) and learn how He created everything.
You are responsible for your own thoughts brad
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12/21/2015 1:21:18 AM
Posted: 11 months ago
At 12/21/2015 1:19:22 AM, janesix wrote:
At 12/21/2015 1:15:03 AM, aquilla wrote:
At 12/20/2015 1:34:35 PM, GrittyWorm wrote:
If you study Psychology there is a part of it that is called self talk. This "inner voice" can build you up to things such as confidence, happiness, joy, etc, or it can break you down to sadness, despair, low self esteem, etc. Is Atheism simply negative sekf talk/focusing on the negative. Is it plain and simply a self defeating belief system?


http://psychcentral.com... : :

Our Creator is responsible for all the thoughts of His created people. He chose a few of them to listen to His voice ( the true gospel ) and learn how He created everything.
You are responsible for your own thoughts brad : :

That's what most of God's characters believe who have no idea how they were created. Do you realize we're experiencing life one picture at a time but at a fast enough rate that we believe motion is something real?
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12/21/2015 1:22:47 AM
Posted: 11 months ago
There are several theories as to why Christians tend to live longer than atheists. For example, some studies propose that people who regularly go to church, pray or study the Bible are less likely to have high blood pressure that than who do not. This makes a lot of sense, because all of these activities tend to promote meditation and relaxation, and are excellent ways to relieve stress. Having enough faith to put your life into the hands of a higher power can be a freeing experience that allows you to relax and take what God gives you. At the end of the day, the less stress you experience, the less likely you are to suffer stress related physical ailments, which may in turn bring on an earlier death.
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12/21/2015 1:23:52 AM
Posted: 11 months ago
At 12/21/2015 1:21:18 AM, aquilla wrote:
At 12/21/2015 1:19:22 AM, janesix wrote:
At 12/21/2015 1:15:03 AM, aquilla wrote:
At 12/20/2015 1:34:35 PM, GrittyWorm wrote:
If you study Psychology there is a part of it that is called self talk. This "inner voice" can build you up to things such as confidence, happiness, joy, etc, or it can break you down to sadness, despair, low self esteem, etc. Is Atheism simply negative sekf talk/focusing on the negative. Is it plain and simply a self defeating belief system?


http://psychcentral.com... : :

Our Creator is responsible for all the thoughts of His created people. He chose a few of them to listen to His voice ( the true gospel ) and learn how He created everything.
You are responsible for your own thoughts brad : :

That's what most of God's characters believe who have no idea how they were created. Do you realize we're experiencing life one picture at a time but at a fast enough rate that we believe motion is something real?

Knowledge is not salvation. Even Satan has knowledge. Without love, one is nothing.
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12/21/2015 1:25:15 AM
Posted: 11 months ago
At 12/21/2015 1:23:52 AM, GrittyWorm wrote:
At 12/21/2015 1:21:18 AM, aquilla wrote:
At 12/21/2015 1:19:22 AM, janesix wrote:
At 12/21/2015 1:15:03 AM, aquilla wrote:
At 12/20/2015 1:34:35 PM, GrittyWorm wrote:
If you study Psychology there is a part of it that is called self talk. This "inner voice" can build you up to things such as confidence, happiness, joy, etc, or it can break you down to sadness, despair, low self esteem, etc. Is Atheism simply negative sekf talk/focusing on the negative. Is it plain and simply a self defeating belief system?


http://psychcentral.com... : :

Our Creator is responsible for all the thoughts of His created people. He chose a few of them to listen to His voice ( the true gospel ) and learn how He created everything.
You are responsible for your own thoughts brad : :

That's what most of God's characters believe who have no idea how they were created. Do you realize we're experiencing life one picture at a time but at a fast enough rate that we believe motion is something real?

Knowledge is not salvation. Even Satan has knowledge. Without love, one is nothing. : :
Christians don't even know what the LOVE OF GOD means.
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12/21/2015 1:29:40 AM
Posted: 11 months ago
At 12/21/2015 1:25:15 AM, aquilla wrote:
At 12/21/2015 1:23:52 AM, GrittyWorm wrote:
At 12/21/2015 1:21:18 AM, aquilla wrote:
At 12/21/2015 1:19:22 AM, janesix wrote:
At 12/21/2015 1:15:03 AM, aquilla wrote:
At 12/20/2015 1:34:35 PM, GrittyWorm wrote:
If you study Psychology there is a part of it that is called self talk. This "inner voice" can build you up to things such as confidence, happiness, joy, etc, or it can break you down to sadness, despair, low self esteem, etc. Is Atheism simply negative sekf talk/focusing on the negative. Is it plain and simply a self defeating belief system?


http://psychcentral.com... : :

Our Creator is responsible for all the thoughts of His created people. He chose a few of them to listen to His voice ( the true gospel ) and learn how He created everything.
You are responsible for your own thoughts brad : :

That's what most of God's characters believe who have no idea how they were created. Do you realize we're experiencing life one picture at a time but at a fast enough rate that we believe motion is something real?

Knowledge is not salvation. Even Satan has knowledge. Without love, one is nothing. : :
Christians don't even know what the LOVE OF GOD means.

Where do you think you got the concept of the love of God. It's mentioned in no other religion other than Christianity and Judaism.
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12/21/2015 1:32:17 AM
Posted: 11 months ago
At 12/21/2015 1:25:15 AM, aquilla wrote:
At 12/21/2015 1:23:52 AM, GrittyWorm wrote:
At 12/21/2015 1:21:18 AM, aquilla wrote:
At 12/21/2015 1:19:22 AM, janesix wrote:
At 12/21/2015 1:15:03 AM, aquilla wrote:
At 12/20/2015 1:34:35 PM, GrittyWorm wrote:
If you study Psychology there is a part of it that is called self talk. This "inner voice" can build you up to things such as confidence, happiness, joy, etc, or it can break you down to sadness, despair, low self esteem, etc. Is Atheism simply negative sekf talk/focusing on the negative. Is it plain and simply a self defeating belief system?


http://psychcentral.com... : :

Our Creator is responsible for all the thoughts of His created people. He chose a few of them to listen to His voice ( the true gospel ) and learn how He created everything.
You are responsible for your own thoughts brad : :

That's what most of God's characters believe who have no idea how they were created. Do you realize we're experiencing life one picture at a time but at a fast enough rate that we believe motion is something real?

Knowledge is not salvation. Even Satan has knowledge. Without love, one is nothing. : :
Christians don't even know what the LOVE OF GOD means.

Read John 3:16

I find it interesting that you have labeled all Christians as "not knowing love". Ever heard of Mother Teresa? I'd be most impressed if you have shown and known love greater then someone who sacrificed their entire life and self to live with and help the poorest people in the world.
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12/21/2015 2:21:38 AM
Posted: 11 months ago
At 12/21/2015 1:22:47 AM, GrittyWorm wrote:
There are several theories as to why Christians tend to live longer than atheists. For example, some studies propose that people who regularly go to church, pray or study the Bible are less likely to have high blood pressure that than who do not. This makes a lot of sense, because all of these activities tend to promote meditation and relaxation, and are excellent ways to relieve stress. Having enough faith to put your life into the hands of a higher power can be a freeing experience that allows you to relax and take what God gives you. At the end of the day, the less stress you experience, the less likely you are to suffer stress related physical ailments, which may in turn bring on an earlier death.

Copypasta. Again.

http://www.sunnyray.org...

Also, the path of least resistance isn't necessarily the most beneficial way to move through life. After all, a brain dead person can 'live' on life support, with absolutely no stress, indefinitely, but I'm sure you would agree, that is not a life to envy.
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12/21/2015 2:26:43 AM
Posted: 11 months ago
At 12/21/2015 2:21:38 AM, Skepticalone wrote:
At 12/21/2015 1:22:47 AM, GrittyWorm wrote:
There are several theories as to why Christians tend to live longer than atheists. For example, some studies propose that people who regularly go to church, pray or study the Bible are less likely to have high blood pressure that than who do not. This makes a lot of sense, because all of these activities tend to promote meditation and relaxation, and are excellent ways to relieve stress. Having enough faith to put your life into the hands of a higher power can be a freeing experience that allows you to relax and take what God gives you. At the end of the day, the less stress you experience, the less likely you are to suffer stress related physical ailments, which may in turn bring on an earlier death.

Copypasta. Again.

http://www.sunnyray.org...

Also, the path of least resistance isn't necessarily the most beneficial way to move through life. After all, a brain dead person can 'live' on life support, with absolutely no stress, indefinitely, but I'm sure you would agree, that is not a life to envy.

A conscious person is alive. A vegetable is not.
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12/21/2015 2:28:33 AM
Posted: 11 months ago
At 12/21/2015 2:21:38 AM, Skepticalone wrote:
At 12/21/2015 1:22:47 AM, GrittyWorm wrote:
There are several theories as to why Christians tend to live longer than atheists. For example, some studies propose that people who regularly go to church, pray or study the Bible are less likely to have high blood pressure that than who do not. This makes a lot of sense, because all of these activities tend to promote meditation and relaxation, and are excellent ways to relieve stress. Having enough faith to put your life into the hands of a higher power can be a freeing experience that allows you to relax and take what God gives you. At the end of the day, the less stress you experience, the less likely you are to suffer stress related physical ailments, which may in turn bring on an earlier death.

Copypasta. Again.

http://www.sunnyray.org...

Also, the path of least resistance isn't necessarily the most beneficial way to move through life. After all, a brain dead person can 'live' on life support, with absolutely no stress, indefinitely, but I'm sure you would agree, that is not a life to envy.

So a less stressed, happier, more peaceful, and longer life producing mindset is not to be envied? You prefer negative self destructive beliefs?
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12/21/2015 3:13:48 AM
Posted: 11 months ago
At 12/21/2015 2:28:33 AM, GrittyWorm wrote:
At 12/21/2015 2:21:38 AM, Skepticalone wrote:
At 12/21/2015 1:22:47 AM, GrittyWorm wrote:
There are several theories as to why Christians tend to live longer than atheists. For example, some studies propose that people who regularly go to church, pray or study the Bible are less likely to have high blood pressure that than who do not. This makes a lot of sense, because all of these activities tend to promote meditation and relaxation, and are excellent ways to relieve stress. Having enough faith to put your life into the hands of a higher power can be a freeing experience that allows you to relax and take what God gives you. At the end of the day, the less stress you experience, the less likely you are to suffer stress related physical ailments, which may in turn bring on an earlier death.

Copypasta. Again.

http://www.sunnyray.org...

Also, the path of least resistance isn't necessarily the most beneficial way to move through life. After all, a brain dead person can 'live' on life support, with absolutely no stress, indefinitely, but I'm sure you would agree, that is not a life to envy.

So a less stressed, happier, more peaceful, and longer life producing mindset is not to be envied?

How far are you willing to go with that - Hedonism?

You prefer negative self destructive beliefs?

No, and that is a strawman. Avoiding difficult experiences or deferring it to another being (real or imagined) can negatively affect strength of character, personal accountability, perseverance, etc. Easier is not always better.
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12/21/2015 6:02:51 AM
Posted: 11 months ago
At 12/21/2015 1:12:16 AM, GrittyWorm wrote:
At 12/21/2015 1:02:05 AM, janesix wrote:
At 12/20/2015 1:34:35 PM, GrittyWorm wrote:
If you study Psychology there is a part of it that is called self talk. This "inner voice" can build you up to things such as confidence, happiness, joy, etc, or it can break you down to sadness, despair, low self esteem, etc. Is Atheism simply negative sekf talk/focusing on the negative. Is it plain and simply a self defeating belief system?


http://psychcentral.com...
Why do you despise atheists so much? Is it because of your jealousy that the don't have a religious crutch?

Atheism is a defeative belief system .............
Atheism is a disbelief in gods.
I wonder if you will ever understand anything at all.
I doubt it, but you do provide some amusement.
Religion is just mind control. George Carlin
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12/21/2015 6:52:28 AM
Posted: 11 months ago
At 12/20/2015 1:34:35 PM, GrittyWorm wrote:
Is Atheism simply negative self talk/focusing on the negative. Is it plain and simply a self defeating belief system?
Self-defeating how? Nearly all people of faith inherit religion from their parents. Yet there are an estimated 4,200 distinct religions, of which no more than one can be correct. [http://www.adherents.com...]

Surely, for most people, rejecting your parents' faith is a necessary first step to rigorously finding which faith (if any) is both valid and true.

Yet most people of faith never take this step.

However, some 70% of atheists in English-speaking countries are formerly people of faith, so 70% have rejected whatever faith their parents and communities have advocated, and many have explored multiple other religions -- as reflected in their generally high religious knowledge. [http://www.pewforum.org...]

So a higher proportion of atheists have done the right thing intellectually, than have the religious.

It's docile religious acquiescence, not atheism, which is self-defeating.