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1/7/2016 10:19:24 AM
Posted: 11 months ago
in today's "logic" and thats makes u a religious stupid person why its wrong to say phedophiles or psychopaths have mental disorders? it comes natural to them no? or these people lying with animals lol... where u put the limits?
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1/7/2016 11:28:02 AM
Posted: 11 months ago
At 1/7/2016 10:19:24 AM, POPOO5560 wrote:
in today's "logic" and thats makes u a religious stupid person why its wrong to say phedophiles or psychopaths have mental disorders? it comes natural to them no? or these people lying with animals lol... where u put the limits?
Ask your pet goat or your neighbour's baby or the murder victim and get back to me with their answers.
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1/7/2016 11:34:12 AM
Posted: 11 months ago
At 1/7/2016 11:28:02 AM, bulproof wrote:
At 1/7/2016 10:19:24 AM, POPOO5560 wrote:
in today's "logic" and thats makes u a religious stupid person why its wrong to say phedophiles or psychopaths have mental disorders? it comes natural to them no? or these people lying with animals lol... where u put the limits?
Ask your pet goat or your neighbour's baby or the murder victim and get back to me with their answers.

hhhhhhh your responses r always the best :D btw i dont have a goat intead i have a cat X)
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1/7/2016 12:02:10 PM
Posted: 11 months ago
At 1/7/2016 11:34:12 AM, POPOO5560 wrote:
At 1/7/2016 11:28:02 AM, bulproof wrote:
At 1/7/2016 10:19:24 AM, POPOO5560 wrote:
in today's "logic" and thats makes u a religious stupid person why its wrong to say phedophiles or psychopaths have mental disorders? it comes natural to them no? or these people lying with animals lol... where u put the limits?
Ask your pet goat or your neighbour's baby or the murder victim and get back to me with their answers.

hhhhhhh your responses r always the best :D btw i dont have a goat intead i have a cat X)
Well ask the cat. LOL
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1/7/2016 12:11:10 PM
Posted: 11 months ago
At 1/7/2016 10:19:24 AM, POPOO5560 wrote:
in today's "logic" and thats makes u a religious stupid person why its wrong to say phedophiles or psychopaths have mental disorders? it comes natural to them no? or these people lying with animals lol... where u put the limits?

There is NOTHING wrong with being gay. Being a psychopath or paedophile is a different thing altogether and has nothing to do with sexuality!
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1/7/2016 12:20:20 PM
Posted: 11 months ago
At 1/7/2016 12:02:10 PM, bulproof wrote:
At 1/7/2016 11:34:12 AM, POPOO5560 wrote:
At 1/7/2016 11:28:02 AM, bulproof wrote:
At 1/7/2016 10:19:24 AM, POPOO5560 wrote:
in today's "logic" and thats makes u a religious stupid person why its wrong to say phedophiles or psychopaths have mental disorders? it comes natural to them no? or these people lying with animals lol... where u put the limits?
Ask your pet goat or your neighbour's baby or the murder victim and get back to me with their answers.

hhhhhhh your responses r always the best :D btw i dont have a goat intead i have a cat X)
Well ask the cat. LOL

he just looks at me 0o
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1/7/2016 12:26:41 PM
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At 1/7/2016 12:11:10 PM, JJ50 wrote:
At 1/7/2016 10:19:24 AM, POPOO5560 wrote:
in today's "logic" and thats makes u a religious stupid person why its wrong to say phedophiles or psychopaths have mental disorders? it comes natural to them no? or these people lying with animals lol... where u put the limits?

There is NOTHING wrong with being gay. Being a psychopath or paedophile is a different thing altogether and has nothing to do with sexuality!

and why its different? and its not about doing with sexuality or not. what wrong being an psychopath or paedophile? some poeple born with that no? its natural to their perspective.

saying "nothing" wrong being a gay is false. whats the purpose of sex? procreation? if they doing it for fun pleasure why its wrong for a paedophile or a person doing it with animals or objects (yes we have stupid poeple like that)?
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1/7/2016 12:31:11 PM
Posted: 11 months ago
At 1/7/2016 10:19:24 AM, POPOO5560 wrote:
in today's "logic" and thats makes u a religious stupid person why its wrong to say phedophiles or psychopaths have mental disorders? it comes natural to them no? or these people lying with animals lol... where u put the limits?

Animals and little children do not consent to the sexual attacks of the maladjusted, mental misfits, and I don't believe that the victims of the psychopathic murderers consent to their demise either.

PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN SAME SEX RELATIONSHIPS, ARE CONSENTING ADULTS.
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1/7/2016 12:59:57 PM
Posted: 11 months ago
At 1/7/2016 12:31:11 PM, Gentorev wrote:
At 1/7/2016 10:19:24 AM, POPOO5560 wrote:
in today's "logic" and thats makes u a religious stupid person why its wrong to say phedophiles or psychopaths have mental disorders? it comes natural to them no? or these people lying with animals lol... where u put the limits?

Animals and little children do not consent to the sexual attacks of the maladjusted, mental misfits, and I don't believe that the victims of the psychopathic murderers consent to their demise either.

PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN SAME SEX RELATIONSHIPS, ARE CONSENTING ADULTS.

children can consent though they wont feel any pleasure, for animals if they dont like it they would run away if they keep doing it that means they consented to it LMAO!!
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1/7/2016 1:20:32 PM
Posted: 11 months ago
At 1/7/2016 12:31:11 PM, Gentorev wrote:
At 1/7/2016 10:19:24 AM, POPOO5560 wrote:
in today's "logic" and thats makes u a religious stupid person why its wrong to say phedophiles or psychopaths have mental disorders? it comes natural to them no? or these people lying with animals lol... where u put the limits?

Animals and little children do not consent to the sexual attacks of the maladjusted, mental misfits, and I don't believe that the victims of the psychopathic murderers consent to their demise either.

PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN SAME SEX RELATIONSHIPS, ARE CONSENTING ADULTS.
Gent, is that you? WOW.
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1/7/2016 3:02:19 PM
Posted: 11 months ago
At 1/7/2016 10:19:24 AM, POPOO5560 wrote:
in today's "logic" and thats makes u a religious stupid person why its wrong to say phedophiles or psychopaths have mental disorders? it comes natural to them no? or these people lying with animals lol... where u put the limits?
A mental disorder is distinct from habitually breaking a cultural taboo, Popoo, in that one can break a taboo in one culture, and still function as a human being in societies elsewhere. However a person with a mental disorder suffers impaired function in human societies everywhere.

Now, this may surprise you, so I'll take it slowly....

It's true that homosexuals don't function terribly well in some Muslim-dominated societies. But the reason for that isn't the sex they enjoy, but rather that nationalistic Muslim zealots like to persecute and kill them.

Having homosexual sex doesn't actually cause ropes to tangle around your neck, or rocks to bounce off your head... that's angry, self-important Muslims inflicting these punishments on their fellow citizens, for no other reason than fear and self-importance.

If citizens stop doing that, and stop telling each other what kind of consenting sex to have when, homosexuals end up living productive, peaceful, law-abiding lives.

Isn't that remarkable! Change the law to make it more just and reasonable, and a whole problem vanishes overnight!

You're welcome. :)
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1/7/2016 4:02:24 PM
Posted: 11 months ago
At 1/7/2016 3:02:19 PM, RuvDraba wrote:
At 1/7/2016 10:19:24 AM, POPOO5560 wrote:
in today's "logic" and thats makes u a religious stupid person why its wrong to say phedophiles or psychopaths have mental disorders? it comes natural to them no? or these people lying with animals lol... where u put the limits?
A mental disorder is distinct from habitually breaking a cultural taboo, Popoo, in that one can break a taboo in one culture, and still function as a human being in societies elsewhere. However a person with a mental disorder suffers impaired function in human societies everywhere.

Now, this may surprise you, so I'll take it slowly....

It's true that homosexuals don't function terribly well in some Muslim-dominated societies. But the reason for that isn't the sex they enjoy, but rather that nationalistic Muslim zealots like to persecute and kill them.

Having homosexual sex doesn't actually cause ropes to tangle around your neck, or rocks to bounce off your head... that's angry, self-important Muslims inflicting these punishments on their fellow citizens, for no other reason than fear and self-importance.

If citizens stop doing that, and stop telling each other what kind of consenting sex to have when, homosexuals end up living productive, peaceful, law-abiding lives.

Isn't that remarkable! Change the law to make it more just and reasonable, and a whole problem vanishes overnight!

You're welcome. :)

dude i think u dont get my point here. im not saying gays r mentally ill, just saying if people think to be gay is normal and fine why say phedophiles or psychopaths r mentally ill? this is double standards... because everybody have its own perspective. if someone born that way well its normal for him am i right? bcz they telling us/educating/brainwashing us some stuff by propoganda tool called TV it doesnt mean its true at all. mentioning what some poeple do to homos wasnt my point at all.
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1/7/2016 4:15:59 PM
Posted: 11 months ago
At 1/7/2016 10:19:24 AM, POPOO5560 wrote:
in today's "logic" and thats makes u a religious stupid person why its wrong to say phedophiles or psychopaths have mental disorders? it comes natural to them no? or these people lying with animals lol... where u put the limits?

Homosexuality relates to consenting adults. Pedophilia, psychopathy, and bestiality do not.
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1/7/2016 4:54:11 PM
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At 1/7/2016 10:19:24 AM, POPOO5560 wrote:
in today's "logic" and thats makes u a religious stupid person why its wrong to say phedophiles or psychopaths have mental disorders? it comes natural to them no? or these people lying with animals lol... where u put the limits?

Firstly, an Appealing to Nature for validity or acceptability of a behavior is logically fallacious. A behavior being natural doesn't lend any credence to whether it is considered right or wrong.

Secondly, let's clarify "Mental Illness" to reduce the ambiguousness:

Mental Disorder : "a mental or bodily condition marked primarily by sufficient disorganization of personality, mind, and emotions to seriously impair the normal psychological functioning of the individual"called also mental illness" [Merriam-Webster]

Pedophiliacs and psychopaths have abnormal desires, rationality, and thought processes that are unhealthy and detrimental to either themselves, other individuals, or both. Both of these conditions are abrasive to a functioning society because they represent a threat to the well-being of other members of society.

How can homosexuality be justified to be held to anything of an equal standing with this, above?

Regarding the limits, such as "lying with animals", this carries the same factors in it that other issues have, which is consent. Animals, children, and sufficiently mentally handicapped lack the ability to fully consider or realize the consequences of their actions or decisions. So, their "consent" is deemed invalid because the "concenter" is not sufficiently capable of understanding it. If this were not the case, then there would be a strong risk that these individual would be done harm (i.e. physically, psychologically, socially) because they weren't able to anticipate it prior to their initial decision.

How can homosexuality be justified to be held to anything of an equal standing with these, above?
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1/7/2016 5:10:58 PM
Posted: 11 months ago
At 1/7/2016 4:15:59 PM, Skepticalone wrote:
At 1/7/2016 10:19:24 AM, POPOO5560 wrote:
in today's "logic" and thats makes u a religious stupid person why its wrong to say phedophiles or psychopaths have mental disorders? it comes natural to them no? or these people lying with animals lol... where u put the limits?

Homosexuality relates to consenting adults. Pedophilia, psychopathy, and bestiality do not.

So if the participants in any action are consenting there is no mental disorder? That doesn't seem to be a logical argument...
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1/7/2016 5:42:15 PM
Posted: 11 months ago
At 1/7/2016 5:10:58 PM, Geogeer wrote:
At 1/7/2016 4:15:59 PM, Skepticalone wrote:
At 1/7/2016 10:19:24 AM, POPOO5560 wrote:
in today's "logic" and thats makes u a religious stupid person why its wrong to say phedophiles or psychopaths have mental disorders? it comes natural to them no? or these people lying with animals lol... where u put the limits?

Homosexuality relates to consenting adults. Pedophilia, psychopathy, and bestiality do not.

So if the participants in any action are consenting there is no mental disorder? That doesn't seem to be a logical argument...

Well, that and the fact that homosexuality is not, by default, harmful to the participants.
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1/7/2016 5:43:12 PM
Posted: 11 months ago
At 1/7/2016 5:42:15 PM, Skepticalone wrote:
At 1/7/2016 5:10:58 PM, Geogeer wrote:
At 1/7/2016 4:15:59 PM, Skepticalone wrote:
At 1/7/2016 10:19:24 AM, POPOO5560 wrote:
in today's "logic" and thats makes u a religious stupid person why its wrong to say phedophiles or psychopaths have mental disorders? it comes natural to them no? or these people lying with animals lol... where u put the limits?

Homosexuality relates to consenting adults. Pedophilia, psychopathy, and bestiality do not.

So if the participants in any action are consenting there is no mental disorder? That doesn't seem to be a logical argument...

Well, that and the fact that homosexuality is not, by default, harmful to the participants.

Are you sure about that?
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1/7/2016 5:52:45 PM
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Are homosexual men not more susceptible to AIDS

"Gay and bisexual men are more severely affected by HIV than any other group in the United States.

http://www.cdc.gov...
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1/7/2016 6:11:37 PM
Posted: 11 months ago
At 1/7/2016 5:43:12 PM, Geogeer wrote:
At 1/7/2016 5:42:15 PM, Skepticalone wrote:
At 1/7/2016 5:10:58 PM, Geogeer wrote:
At 1/7/2016 4:15:59 PM, Skepticalone wrote:
At 1/7/2016 10:19:24 AM, POPOO5560 wrote:
in today's "logic" and thats makes u a religious stupid person why its wrong to say phedophiles or psychopaths have mental disorders? it comes natural to them no? or these people lying with animals lol... where u put the limits?

Homosexuality relates to consenting adults. Pedophilia, psychopathy, and bestiality do not.

So if the participants in any action are consenting there is no mental disorder? That doesn't seem to be a logical argument...

Well, that and the fact that homosexuality is not, by default, harmful to the participants.

Are you sure about that?

There are no sexual acts done by homosexuals that are not also done by heterosexuals.
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1/7/2016 6:13:06 PM
Posted: 11 months ago
At 1/7/2016 1:20:32 PM, bulproof wrote:
At 1/7/2016 12:31:11 PM, Gentorev wrote:
At 1/7/2016 10:19:24 AM, POPOO5560 wrote:
in today's "logic" and thats makes u a religious stupid person why its wrong to say phedophiles or psychopaths have mental disorders? it comes natural to them no? or these people lying with animals lol... where u put the limits?

Animals and little children do not consent to the sexual attacks of the maladjusted, mental misfits, and I don't believe that the victims of the psychopathic murderers consent to their demise either.

PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN SAME SEX RELATIONSHIPS, ARE CONSENTING ADULTS.
Gent, is that you? WOW.

I did a double take as well. Kudos to Gent.
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1/7/2016 6:23:58 PM
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At 1/7/2016 6:11:37 PM, Skepticalone wrote:
At 1/7/2016 5:43:12 PM, Geogeer wrote:
At 1/7/2016 5:42:15 PM, Skepticalone wrote:
At 1/7/2016 5:10:58 PM, Geogeer wrote:
At 1/7/2016 4:15:59 PM, Skepticalone wrote:
At 1/7/2016 10:19:24 AM, POPOO5560 wrote:
in today's "logic" and thats makes u a religious stupid person why its wrong to say phedophiles or psychopaths have mental disorders? it comes natural to them no? or these people lying with animals lol... where u put the limits?

Homosexuality relates to consenting adults. Pedophilia, psychopathy, and bestiality do not.

So if the participants in any action are consenting there is no mental disorder? That doesn't seem to be a logical argument...

Well, that and the fact that homosexuality is not, by default, harmful to the participants.

Are you sure about that?

There are no sexual acts done by homosexuals that are not also done by heterosexuals.

Yet there is one that heterosexuals do that homosexuals do not do. That heterosexuals have abused their sexual faculties does not automatically make it right for homosexuals to do so as well. Abuse of a good does not deny the good of a good.

There is a complementarity that homosexuals never have in their relations. Lesbian relationships end much more quickly and gay relationships almost never stay exclusive. This is because they are not naturally oriented to forming stable relationships for the procreation and raising of a family.
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1/7/2016 7:04:01 PM
Posted: 11 months ago
At 1/7/2016 6:23:58 PM, Geogeer wrote:
At 1/7/2016 6:11:37 PM, Skepticalone wrote:
At 1/7/2016 5:43:12 PM, Geogeer wrote:
At 1/7/2016 5:42:15 PM, Skepticalone wrote:
At 1/7/2016 5:10:58 PM, Geogeer wrote:
At 1/7/2016 4:15:59 PM, Skepticalone wrote:
At 1/7/2016 10:19:24 AM, POPOO5560 wrote:
in today's "logic" and thats makes u a religious stupid person why its wrong to say phedophiles or psychopaths have mental disorders? it comes natural to them no? or these people lying with animals lol... where u put the limits?

Homosexuality relates to consenting adults. Pedophilia, psychopathy, and bestiality do not.

So if the participants in any action are consenting there is no mental disorder? That doesn't seem to be a logical argument...

Well, that and the fact that homosexuality is not, by default, harmful to the participants.

Are you sure about that?

There are no sexual acts done by homosexuals that are not also done by heterosexuals.

Yet there is one that heterosexuals do that homosexuals do not do. That heterosexuals have abused their sexual faculties does not automatically make it right for homosexuals to do so as well. Abuse of a good does not deny the good of a good.

There is a complementarity that homosexuals never have in their relations. Lesbian relationships end much more quickly and gay relationships almost never stay exclusive. This is because they are not naturally oriented to forming stable relationships for the procreation and raising of a family.

I agree monogamy is better for you than casual sex. However, there are many factors that may contribute to monogamy being more widespread amongst heterosexual couples than homosexuals. For instance, homosexuality being stigmatized, gay marriage being illegal (until recently), etc. Not to mention a majority of homosexuals are men, and statistics about the sexual relations of men will be less monogamous than women (especially younger men). I'm on my phone, so I have limited research capability, but these are issues that need to be factored into any claim of homosexuality being inherently harmful.
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1/7/2016 7:14:22 PM
Posted: 11 months ago
At 1/7/2016 7:04:01 PM, Skepticalone wrote:
At 1/7/2016 6:23:58 PM, Geogeer wrote:
At 1/7/2016 6:11:37 PM, Skepticalone wrote:
At 1/7/2016 5:43:12 PM, Geogeer wrote:
At 1/7/2016 5:42:15 PM, Skepticalone wrote:
At 1/7/2016 5:10:58 PM, Geogeer wrote:
At 1/7/2016 4:15:59 PM, Skepticalone wrote:
At 1/7/2016 10:19:24 AM, POPOO5560 wrote:
in today's "logic" and thats makes u a religious stupid person why its wrong to say phedophiles or psychopaths have mental disorders? it comes natural to them no? or these people lying with animals lol... where u put the limits?

Homosexuality relates to consenting adults. Pedophilia, psychopathy, and bestiality do not.

So if the participants in any action are consenting there is no mental disorder? That doesn't seem to be a logical argument...

Well, that and the fact that homosexuality is not, by default, harmful to the participants.

Are you sure about that?

There are no sexual acts done by homosexuals that are not also done by heterosexuals.

Yet there is one that heterosexuals do that homosexuals do not do. That heterosexuals have abused their sexual faculties does not automatically make it right for homosexuals to do so as well. Abuse of a good does not deny the good of a good.

There is a complementarity that homosexuals never have in their relations. Lesbian relationships end much more quickly and gay relationships almost never stay exclusive. This is because they are not naturally oriented to forming stable relationships for the procreation and raising of a family.

I agree monogamy is better for you than casual sex. However, there are many factors that may contribute to monogamy being more widespread amongst heterosexual couples than homosexuals. For instance, homosexuality being stigmatized, gay marriage being illegal (until recently), etc. Not to mention a majority of homosexuals are men, and statistics about the sexual relations of men will be less monogamous than women (especially younger men). I'm on my phone, so I have limited research capability, but these are issues that need to be factored into any claim of homosexuality being inherently harmful.

We'll continue this later then...
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1/7/2016 7:27:46 PM
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At 1/7/2016 10:19:24 AM, POPOO5560 wrote:
in today's "logic" and thats makes u a religious stupid person why its wrong to say phedophiles or psychopaths have mental disorders? it comes natural to them no? or these people lying with animals lol... where u put the limits?

Doesn't Islam essentially deny natural law?

Al-Ghazali insisted that God is not bound by any order and that there is, therefore, no "natural" sequence of cause and effect, as in fire burning cotton or, more colorfully, as in "the purging of the bowels and the using of a purgative." Things do not act according to their own natures - they have no natures - but only according to God's will at the moment.

http://islamicsupremacism.com...
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1/7/2016 9:18:51 PM
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At 1/7/2016 1:20:32 PM, bulproof wrote:
At 1/7/2016 12:31:11 PM, Gentorev wrote:
At 1/7/2016 10:19:24 AM, POPOO5560 wrote:
in today's "logic" and thats makes u a religious stupid person why its wrong to say phedophiles or psychopaths have mental disorders? it comes natural to them no? or these people lying with animals lol... where u put the limits?

Animals and little children do not consent to the sexual attacks of the maladjusted, mental misfits, and I don't believe that the victims of the psychopathic murderers consent to their demise either.

PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN SAME SEX RELATIONSHIPS, ARE CONSENTING ADULTS.
Gent, is that you? WOW.

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She married she and now it would seem
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Call down God's wrath from the heavens above.
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1/7/2016 11:42:30 PM
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At 1/7/2016 4:02:24 PM, POPOO5560 wrote:
At 1/7/2016 3:02:19 PM, RuvDraba wrote:
At 1/7/2016 10:19:24 AM, POPOO5560 wrote:
in today's "logic" and thats makes u a religious stupid person why its wrong to say phedophiles or psychopaths have mental disorders? it comes natural to them no? or these people lying with animals lol... where u put the limits?
A mental disorder is distinct from habitually breaking a cultural taboo, Popoo, in that one can break a taboo in one culture, and still function as a human being in societies elsewhere. However a person with a mental disorder suffers impaired function in human societies everywhere.

Now, this may surprise you, so I'll take it slowly....

It's true that homosexuals don't function terribly well in some Muslim-dominated societies. But the reason for that isn't the sex they enjoy, but rather that nationalistic Muslim zealots like to persecute and kill them.

Having homosexual sex doesn't actually cause ropes to tangle around your neck, or rocks to bounce off your head... that's angry, self-important Muslims inflicting these punishments on their fellow citizens, for no other reason than fear and self-importance.

If citizens stop doing that, and stop telling each other what kind of consenting sex to have when, homosexuals end up living productive, peaceful, law-abiding lives.

Isn't that remarkable! Change the law to make it more just and reasonable, and a whole problem vanishes overnight!

You're welcome. :)

dude i think u dont get my point here. im not saying gays r mentally ill, just saying if people think to be gay is normal and fine why say phedophiles or psychopaths r mentally ill? this is double standards... because everybody have its own perspective. if someone born that way well its normal for him am i right? bcz they telling us/educating/brainwashing us some stuff by propoganda tool called TV it doesnt mean its true at all. mentioning what some poeple do to homos wasnt my point at all.

The prophet Mohammad had sex with Aisha when she was still a child. He destroyed her reproductive organs after having forceful sex and she could not have children after that. The same is happening in other child brides cases in Muslim countries where child brides are legal and encouraged.
Psychopaths are a different matter, they enjoy killing. Guess who are doing all the killing as reported in the news?
Muslims are afraid of homosexuals mainly because they are uncircumcised and a sore backside makes riding a camel much more painful. But because Muslims pray 5 times a day. They don't sit on their backsides as much, so their backsides heal faster and no one suspects why so many Muslims show up for prayer.
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1/8/2016 5:50:45 AM
Posted: 11 months ago
At 1/7/2016 11:42:30 PM, Harikrish wrote:
At 1/7/2016 4:02:24 PM, POPOO5560 wrote:
At 1/7/2016 3:02:19 PM, RuvDraba wrote:
At 1/7/2016 10:19:24 AM, POPOO5560 wrote:
in today's "logic" and thats makes u a religious stupid person why its wrong to say phedophiles or psychopaths have mental disorders? it comes natural to them no? or these people lying with animals lol... where u put the limits?
A mental disorder is distinct from habitually breaking a cultural taboo, Popoo, in that one can break a taboo in one culture, and still function as a human being in societies elsewhere. However a person with a mental disorder suffers impaired function in human societies everywhere.

Now, this may surprise you, so I'll take it slowly....

It's true that homosexuals don't function terribly well in some Muslim-dominated societies. But the reason for that isn't the sex they enjoy, but rather that nationalistic Muslim zealots like to persecute and kill them.

Having homosexual sex doesn't actually cause ropes to tangle around your neck, or rocks to bounce off your head... that's angry, self-important Muslims inflicting these punishments on their fellow citizens, for no other reason than fear and self-importance.

If citizens stop doing that, and stop telling each other what kind of consenting sex to have when, homosexuals end up living productive, peaceful, law-abiding lives.

Isn't that remarkable! Change the law to make it more just and reasonable, and a whole problem vanishes overnight!

You're welcome. :)

dude i think u dont get my point here. im not saying gays r mentally ill, just saying if people think to be gay is normal and fine why say phedophiles or psychopaths r mentally ill? this is double standards... because everybody have its own perspective. if someone born that way well its normal for him am i right? bcz they telling us/educating/brainwashing us some stuff by propoganda tool called TV it doesnt mean its true at all. mentioning what some poeple do to homos wasnt my point at all.

The prophet Mohammad had sex with Aisha when she was still a child. He destroyed her reproductive organs after having forceful sex and she could not have children after that. The same is happening in other child brides cases in Muslim countries where child brides are legal and encouraged.
Psychopaths are a different matter, they enjoy killing. Guess who are doing all the killing as reported in the news?
Muslims are afraid of homosexuals mainly because they are uncircumcised and a sore backside makes riding a camel much more painful. But because Muslims pray 5 times a day. They don't sit on their backsides as much, so their backsides heal faster and no one suspects why so many Muslims show up for prayer.

Isn't that why camels are called the Ships pf the desert, because they're full of human semen.
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1/8/2016 8:39:15 AM
Posted: 11 months ago
At 1/7/2016 4:15:59 PM, Skepticalone wrote:
At 1/7/2016 10:19:24 AM, POPOO5560 wrote:
in today's "logic" and thats makes u a religious stupid person why its wrong to say phedophiles or psychopaths have mental disorders? it comes natural to them no? or these people lying with animals lol... where u put the limits?

Homosexuality relates to consenting adults. Pedophilia, psychopathy, and bestiality do not.

So u say children cant consent about having sex with adult? sure they can maybe some of them have no problem with that if u give them gifts. secondly why it should be 2 persons consenting on something, in one eyes he thinks its right to rob somebody otherwise robbers wont do that. same for psychopathy.
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1/8/2016 9:43:43 AM
Posted: 11 months ago
At 1/7/2016 4:02:24 PM, POPOO5560 wrote:
At 1/7/2016 3:02:19 PM, RuvDraba wrote:
At 1/7/2016 10:19:24 AM, POPOO5560 wrote:
in today's "logic" and thats makes u a religious stupid person why its wrong to say phedophiles or psychopaths have mental disorders? it comes natural to them no? or these people lying with animals lol... where u put the limits?
A mental disorder is distinct from habitually breaking a cultural taboo, Popoo, in that one can break a taboo in one culture, and still function as a human being in societies elsewhere. However a person with a mental disorder suffers impaired function in human societies everywhere.

dude i think u dont get my point here. im not saying gays r mentally ill, just saying if people think to be gay is normal and fine why say phedophiles or psychopaths r mentally ill?
No, I understand that you would like to conflate a sexual behaviour that doesn't harm anyone with conditions that do, and argue that both are unnatural and dysfunctional, and hence to be suspected.

The problem is:

1) nature is irrelevant to moral arguments, since nature is neither kind, just nor always very effective;
2) conflating behaviours that don't harm anyone with behaviours that do has another name: bigotry;
3) Homosexuality occurs all through nature, including in species very close to humans genetically, so it's not unnatural, it's just less common than heterosexual behaviour;
4) it's a dishonest argument even if it weren't bigoted, Popoo, since it deliberately misrepresents two different categories as the same.

this is double standards... because everybody have its own perspective.
Yes, everyone does have his own perspective. But not all perspectives are valid or true. Ignorant people make mistakes, and bigoted people also avoid acknowledging reliable evidence that would reveal their errors. So people work harder to be dishonest, the more ignorant and bigoted they are.
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1/8/2016 2:11:55 PM
Posted: 11 months ago
At 1/8/2016 8:39:15 AM, POPOO5560 wrote:
At 1/7/2016 4:15:59 PM, Skepticalone wrote:
At 1/7/2016 10:19:24 AM, POPOO5560 wrote:
in today's "logic" and thats makes u a religious stupid person why its wrong to say phedophiles or psychopaths have mental disorders? it comes natural to them no? or these people lying with animals lol... where u put the limits?

Homosexuality relates to consenting adults. Pedophilia, psychopathy, and bestiality do not.

So u say children cant consent about having sex with adult? sure they can maybe some of them have no problem with that if u give them gifts.

Children aren't mature enough to make a decision about sex. That's what the 'age of consent' deals with.

secondly why it should be 2 persons consenting on something, in one eyes he thinks its right to rob somebody otherwise robbers wont do that. same for psychopathy.

This doesn't make sense to me.
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