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1/11/2016 1:56:43 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 1/11/2016 12:57:06 PM, desmac wrote:
At 1/11/2016 12:20:09 PM, fire_wings wrote:
It is useless.

Yet you are here.

Yeah, just to say it is useless.
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1/11/2016 2:05:11 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 1/11/2016 1:56:43 PM, fire_wings wrote:
At 1/11/2016 12:57:06 PM, desmac wrote:
At 1/11/2016 12:20:09 PM, fire_wings wrote:
It is useless.

Yet you are here.

Yeah, just to say it is useless.

So why are you here, if you are really 14 haven't you got schoolwork you should be doing?
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1/11/2016 2:05:44 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 1/11/2016 2:05:11 PM, JJ50 wrote:
At 1/11/2016 1:56:43 PM, fire_wings wrote:
At 1/11/2016 12:57:06 PM, desmac wrote:
At 1/11/2016 12:20:09 PM, fire_wings wrote:
It is useless.

Yet you are here.

Yeah, just to say it is useless.

So why are you here, if you are really 14 haven't you got schoolwork you should be doing?

It is 11 in the night, so I finished my homework.
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1/11/2016 2:10:32 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 1/11/2016 2:06:31 PM, fire_wings wrote:
Extra free time: 15 minutes...

In which case find something better to do!
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1/11/2016 2:11:30 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 1/11/2016 2:10:32 PM, JJ50 wrote:
At 1/11/2016 2:06:31 PM, fire_wings wrote:
Extra free time: 15 minutes...

In which case find something better to do!

I am just noobsniping. Really easy, takes 5 minutes.
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1/11/2016 2:12:19 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
Framework

This is a debate with a question, and it is not resolved, so I recommend this as a poll. Because Pro is asking me a question, and if I answer it, I win. BoP is on Con. First of all, this is not a debateable (spelling error) topic because there is a question. Also, no one knows if they are going to win unless they finish the game. The grammar is wrong also.

Arguments

1. Possibility

There is a possibility that India might win the World Cup. As I said, you don't know until the game. However, there is a possibilty that they might win.

Questions

Con asks me to answer his questions, so I will

1. I think that they will probably win.

2. Why should I give a reason of why they can't win, when I am saying that they should win?

Con provides no arguments. Vote for me.


That took two minutes.
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1/11/2016 6:27:38 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
Troll posts are useless.
The moment you declare a set of ideas to be immune from criticism, satire, derision, or contempt, freedom of thought becomes impossible. - Salman Rushdie

The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, and wiser people so full of doubts. - Bertrand Russell
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1/11/2016 6:56:53 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 1/11/2016 12:20:09 PM, fire_wings wrote:
It is useless.

That's because religion is useless.
Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as false and by rulers as useful. - Seneca
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1/11/2016 10:36:31 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 1/11/2016 12:20:09 PM, fire_wings wrote:
It is useless.

"for to proselytize people into atheism? :)
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1/12/2016 4:03:52 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 1/11/2016 11:50:45 PM, RuvDraba wrote:
At 1/11/2016 12:20:09 PM, fire_wings wrote:
It is useless.

Hi FW,

What do you want this forum to do?

He wants this to be the Pok"mon forum.
I am a huge asSSS!
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1/12/2016 5:23:41 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 1/12/2016 4:03:52 AM, janesix wrote:
At 1/11/2016 11:50:45 PM, RuvDraba wrote:
At 1/11/2016 12:20:09 PM, fire_wings wrote:
It is useless.

Hi FW,

What do you want this forum to do?

He wants this to be the Pok"mon forum.

Jesosaurus! I choose YOU!

Mohammedont! Use BOMB attack!

It has some appeal, Jane, and could be more entertaining than some of the discussions here.
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1/12/2016 5:50:48 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 1/12/2016 5:23:41 AM, RuvDraba wrote:
At 1/12/2016 4:03:52 AM, janesix wrote:
At 1/11/2016 11:50:45 PM, RuvDraba wrote:
At 1/11/2016 12:20:09 PM, fire_wings wrote:
It is useless.

Hi FW,

What do you want this forum to do?

He wants this to be the Pok"mon forum.

Jesosaurus! I choose YOU!

Mohammedont! Use BOMB attack!

It has some appeal, Jane, and could be more entertaining than some of the discussions here.

This forum hasn't changed much, the topics/arguments are the same.
David Hildebrand - The Progressive Alternative to Dianne Feinstein! http://www.davidforcalifornia.com...

When the Fascist and the Communist argue over which ideology is better they're really just arguing over preferred styles of bureaucracy before getting sent to a death camp.
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1/12/2016 6:10:16 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 1/12/2016 5:50:48 AM, Bennett91 wrote:
At 1/12/2016 5:23:41 AM, RuvDraba wrote:
At 1/12/2016 4:03:52 AM, janesix wrote:
At 1/11/2016 11:50:45 PM, RuvDraba wrote:
At 1/11/2016 12:20:09 PM, fire_wings wrote:
It is useless.

Hi FW,

What do you want this forum to do?

He wants this to be the Pok"mon forum.

Jesosaurus! I choose YOU!

Mohammedont! Use BOMB attack!

It has some appeal, Jane, and could be more entertaining than some of the discussions here.

This forum hasn't changed much, the topics/arguments are the same.

What topics would you like to see, Bennett? How would you like to explore them?
Bennett91
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1/12/2016 6:28:49 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 1/12/2016 6:10:16 AM, RuvDraba wrote:
At 1/12/2016 5:50:48 AM, Bennett91 wrote:

This forum hasn't changed much, the topics/arguments are the same.

What topics would you like to see, Bennett? How would you like to explore them?

In terms of religion/spirituality/meta-stuff? Perhaps if there is a way we could study how the idea of God works on a sociological level among humans we could explain "miracles" or other unexplainable feelings humans seem to have in regards to sensing beings beyond our realm - being apart of a higher purpose. Something like a human energy, like 'chi' almost. Perhaps there is an explanation in our evolution.

I'm interested in morality too, arguing against its objective existence that is. I tried with BenShapiro but its like - and I've seen this with a number of folks - it's like he has a logical block in his brain. Like his first 2 premises will be ok, then #3 is like whoa left turn and the conclusion comes outta nowhere.

Can all religious conflicts be explained away by geopolitical reasons? Or were there genuine leadership that believed their atrocities where divinely sanctioned?
David Hildebrand - The Progressive Alternative to Dianne Feinstein! http://www.davidforcalifornia.com...

When the Fascist and the Communist argue over which ideology is better they're really just arguing over preferred styles of bureaucracy before getting sent to a death camp.
RuvDraba
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1/12/2016 6:32:58 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 1/12/2016 6:28:49 AM, Bennett91 wrote:
At 1/12/2016 6:10:16 AM, RuvDraba wrote:
At 1/12/2016 5:50:48 AM, Bennett91 wrote:

This forum hasn't changed much, the topics/arguments are the same.

What topics would you like to see, Bennett? How would you like to explore them?

In terms of religion/spirituality/meta-stuff? Perhaps if there is a way we could study how the idea of God works on a sociological level among humans we could explain "miracles" or other unexplainable feelings humans seem to have in regards to sensing beings beyond our realm - being apart of a higher purpose. Something like a human energy, like 'chi' almost. Perhaps there is an explanation in our evolution.

I'm interested in morality too, arguing against its objective existence that is. I tried with BenShapiro but its like - and I've seen this with a number of folks - it's like he has a logical block in his brain. Like his first 2 premises will be ok, then #3 is like whoa left turn and the conclusion comes outta nowhere.

Can all religious conflicts be explained away by geopolitical reasons? Or were there genuine leadership that believed their atrocities where divinely sanctioned?

I'd be happy to discuss the sociopolitical, psychological and moral/ethical elements of religion, Bennett. Although I'm irreligious myself, religion matters to most people, and people matter to me. So understanding how and why people engage religion, why they sacrifice so much for it (and sometimes betray for it too), what they understand themselves to be gaining from doing so, how they recognise those benefits and what they do with them... Those are all interesting questions, and most have very little to do with the veracity of specific religious dogma.
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1/12/2016 6:51:39 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 1/12/2016 6:32:58 AM, RuvDraba wrote:
At 1/12/2016 6:28:49 AM, Bennett91 wrote:
At 1/12/2016 6:10:16 AM, RuvDraba wrote:
At 1/12/2016 5:50:48 AM, Bennett91 wrote:

This forum hasn't changed much, the topics/arguments are the same.

What topics would you like to see, Bennett? How would you like to explore them?

In terms of religion/spirituality/meta-stuff? Perhaps if there is a way we could study how the idea of God works on a sociological level among humans we could explain "miracles" or other unexplainable feelings humans seem to have in regards to sensing beings beyond our realm - being apart of a higher purpose. Something like a human energy, like 'chi' almost. Perhaps there is an explanation in our evolution.

I'm interested in morality too, arguing against its objective existence that is. I tried with BenShapiro but its like - and I've seen this with a number of folks - it's like he has a logical block in his brain. Like his first 2 premises will be ok, then #3 is like whoa left turn and the conclusion comes outta nowhere.

Can all religious conflicts be explained away by geopolitical reasons? Or were there genuine leadership that believed their atrocities where divinely sanctioned?

I'd be happy to discuss the sociopolitical, psychological and moral/ethical elements of religion, Bennett. Although I'm irreligious myself, religion matters to most people, and people matter to me. So understanding how and why people engage religion, why they sacrifice so much for it (and sometimes betray for it too), what they understand themselves to be gaining from doing so, how they recognise those benefits and what they do with them... Those are all interesting questions, and most have very little to do with the veracity of specific religious dogma.

Debate about doctrine is for theists. We are not theists, so we can't honestly participate in such a discussion. I'd love to read a debate between a Muslim and Christian about the divinity/parentage of Jesus. Perhaps a Catholic vs. a Mormon would have some spice to it.

But in regards to the human condition, perhaps god can be found - a non theistic god, an energy a life fotce ... that can be ... manipulated. But who knows such dark things? *activates red lightsaber*

Oh I also like to argue that there's no such thing as free will regardless of God's existence!
David Hildebrand - The Progressive Alternative to Dianne Feinstein! http://www.davidforcalifornia.com...

When the Fascist and the Communist argue over which ideology is better they're really just arguing over preferred styles of bureaucracy before getting sent to a death camp.
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1/12/2016 8:25:10 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 1/12/2016 6:51:39 AM, Bennett91 wrote:
At 1/12/2016 6:32:58 AM, RuvDraba wrote:
At 1/12/2016 6:28:49 AM, Bennett91 wrote:
At 1/12/2016 6:10:16 AM, RuvDraba wrote:
At 1/12/2016 5:50:48 AM, Bennett91 wrote:

This forum hasn't changed much, the topics/arguments are the same.

What topics would you like to see, Bennett? How would you like to explore them?

In terms of religion/spirituality/meta-stuff? Perhaps if there is a way we could study how the idea of God works on a sociological level among humans we could explain "miracles" or other unexplainable feelings humans seem to have in regards to sensing beings beyond our realm - being apart of a higher purpose. Something like a human energy, like 'chi' almost. Perhaps there is an explanation in our evolution.

I'm interested in morality too, arguing against its objective existence that is. I tried with BenShapiro but its like - and I've seen this with a number of folks - it's like he has a logical block in his brain. Like his first 2 premises will be ok, then #3 is like whoa left turn and the conclusion comes outta nowhere.

Can all religious conflicts be explained away by geopolitical reasons? Or were there genuine leadership that believed their atrocities where divinely sanctioned?

I'd be happy to discuss the sociopolitical, psychological and moral/ethical elements of religion, Bennett. Although I'm irreligious myself, religion matters to most people, and people matter to me. So understanding how and why people engage religion, why they sacrifice so much for it (and sometimes betray for it too), what they understand themselves to be gaining from doing so, how they recognise those benefits and what they do with them... Those are all interesting questions, and most have very little to do with the veracity of specific religious dogma.

Debate about doctrine is for theists. We are not theists, so we can't honestly participate in such a discussion.
Actually, the history of religious doctrine interests me too -- in part because it's part of the history of changing human ideas, in part because it helps capture the cultural sensitivities of the time, and in part because doctrinal shifts can reveal weaknesses in evidence-gathering and epistemology.

But in regards to the human condition, perhaps god can be found - a non theistic god, an energy a life fotce ... that can be ... manipulated. But who knows such dark things? *activates red lightsaber*
I'm trying to think of a way in which that would not destroy all that is best about the human condition. :D

Oh I also like to argue that there's no such thing as free will regardless of God's existence!
I've never found a definition of free will that looks empirically valid to me, in that I have no idea how we'd recognise when it existed. So like gods, free will seems to me an idealised, dogmatic, vacuous appeal to incoherent intuitions, only given credence because it already exists in language. :D
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1/12/2016 8:45:56 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 1/12/2016 8:25:10 AM, RuvDraba wrote:
At 1/12/2016 6:51:39 AM, Bennett91 wrote:
At 1/12/2016 6:32:58 AM, RuvDraba wrote:
At 1/12/2016 6:28:49 AM, Bennett91 wrote:
At 1/12/2016 6:10:16 AM, RuvDraba wrote:
At 1/12/2016 5:50:48 AM, Bennett91 wrote:

This forum hasn't changed much, the topics/arguments are the same.

What topics would you like to see, Bennett? How would you like to explore them?

In terms of religion/spirituality/meta-stuff? Perhaps if there is a way we could study how the idea of God works on a sociological level among humans we could explain "miracles" or other unexplainable feelings humans seem to have in regards to sensing beings beyond our realm - being apart of a higher purpose. Something like a human energy, like 'chi' almost. Perhaps there is an explanation in our evolution.

I'm interested in morality too, arguing against its objective existence that is. I tried with BenShapiro but its like - and I've seen this with a number of folks - it's like he has a logical block in his brain. Like his first 2 premises will be ok, then #3 is like whoa left turn and the conclusion comes outta nowhere.

Can all religious conflicts be explained away by geopolitical reasons? Or were there genuine leadership that believed their atrocities where divinely sanctioned?

I'd be happy to discuss the sociopolitical, psychological and moral/ethical elements of religion, Bennett. Although I'm irreligious myself, religion matters to most people, and people matter to me. So understanding how and why people engage religion, why they sacrifice so much for it (and sometimes betray for it too), what they understand themselves to be gaining from doing so, how they recognise those benefits and what they do with them... Those are all interesting questions, and most have very little to do with the veracity of specific religious dogma.

Debate about doctrine is for theists. We are not theists, so we can't honestly participate in such a discussion.
Actually, the history of religious doctrine interests me too -- in part because it's part of the history of changing human ideas, in part because it helps capture the cultural sensitivities of the time, and in part because doctrinal shifts can reveal weaknesses in evidence-gathering and epistemology.

But in regards to the human condition, perhaps god can be found - a non theistic god, an energy a life fotce ... that can be ... manipulated. But who knows such dark things? *activates red lightsaber*
I'm trying to think of a way in which that would not destroy all that is best about the human condition. :D

Oh I also like to argue that there's no such thing as free will regardless of God's existence!
I've never found a definition of free will that looks empirically valid to me, in that I have no idea how we'd recognise when it existed. So like gods, free will seems to me an idealised, dogmatic, vacuous appeal to incoherent intuitions, only given credence because it already exists in language. :D

So eloquent and agreeable >.<
David Hildebrand - The Progressive Alternative to Dianne Feinstein! http://www.davidforcalifornia.com...

When the Fascist and the Communist argue over which ideology is better they're really just arguing over preferred styles of bureaucracy before getting sent to a death camp.