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1/19/2016 2:25:54 PM
Posted: 10 months ago
From a non-atheist perspective. Here's what I see about atheism and the general rules for all atheists.

1. If you don't believe in something make the biggest fuss that you can. Get angry, stomp your feet and yell as loudly as you can to make sure that everyone knows that what you don't believe in it. After all, when something is imaginary to you that should always make you angry! You can even resort to behaving like a child and throw a fit!

Some examples:

2. Lets say that you don't believe in circles. Every time you see a circle start throwing a fit! Tell those ignorant circle believers to stop trying to force feed you circles. Have all of those circles removed from public places. If the said circles will not be removed insist that squares be placed there as well! After all, squares are more logical.

3. If you are driving down the road and you see a sign that says, "Join us for free circles," that should make you see red! How dare they put up signs advertising their circles. They are so offensive, unlike the many pornographic signs around the city that your families are bombarded by every day! Those are more logical. Insist that those circles be replaced with immoral signs that are pleasing and more acceptable to squares!

4. Since you hardly ever have any circleians who actually go into squareist territory to "force feed you circles," you must go into their territory, after all they are bothering YOU with their circle signs, and all of their circle ideas. If you are on the internet find circleian forums and chat rooms and harass them with your square theology.

5. If you are flipping through television channels, and you happen to find a Circleian station get angry! After all, every squareist has a remote control that does not have an option that allows them to change the channel.

6. As a squareist, you can always write a book for other squareist( like yourselves) who absolutely despise the the things that they don't believe in, mainly the circleians! Explain to other squareist why immoral television channels are so much better for the world, and entice them to take a stand against those moral speaking circleians! After all, decency should not be tolerated!

4. A squareist mission should always be to stomp out hope and faith of anyone who even speaks of these things!

That sort of sums it up, although I'm sure that the list can go on and on....

My actual view is that atheists who hang out in religious forums actually, deep down inside want to believe! That is why they spend so much time around something that they say they don't believe in. That is why they get so angry, because they want to believe in God, and so they spend hours on end each day looking for proof. Disguising themselves with anger.

I like that option much better.
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1/19/2016 2:40:29 PM
Posted: 10 months ago
At 1/19/2016 2:25:54 PM, be_diligent wrote:
From a non-atheist perspective. Here's what I see about atheism and the general rules for all atheists.
I have no interest in reading any more of the stupid, but I will tell you again.
Atheism is the rejection of the man made claim that gods exist.
Now emboss that on a baseball bat and beat yourself over the head with it until you understand it.
F*ck you people are dumb, it's no wonder you're godbotherers.
Religion is just mind control. George Carlin
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1/19/2016 2:43:11 PM
Posted: 10 months ago
At 1/19/2016 2:40:29 PM, bulproof wrote:
At 1/19/2016 2:25:54 PM, be_diligent wrote:
From a non-atheist perspective. Here's what I see about atheism and the general rules for all atheists.
I have no interest in reading any more of the stupid, but I will tell you again.
Atheism is the rejection of the man made claim that gods exist.
Now emboss that on a baseball bat and beat yourself over the head with it until you understand it.
F*ck you people are dumb, it's no wonder you're godbotherers.

lol bulproof, calm yourself down. Grab a cup of sleepy-time tea. I'm hear that helps calm an angry and violent person down.
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1/19/2016 2:43:31 PM
Posted: 10 months ago
At 1/19/2016 2:43:11 PM, be_diligent wrote:
At 1/19/2016 2:40:29 PM, bulproof wrote:
At 1/19/2016 2:25:54 PM, be_diligent wrote:
From a non-atheist perspective. Here's what I see about atheism and the general rules for all atheists.
I have no interest in reading any more of the stupid, but I will tell you again.
Atheism is the rejection of the man made claim that gods exist.
Now emboss that on a baseball bat and beat yourself over the head with it until you understand it.
F*ck you people are dumb, it's no wonder you're godbotherers.

lol bulproof, calm yourself down. Grab a cup of sleepy-time tea. I hear that helps calm an angry and violent person down.
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1/19/2016 2:53:03 PM
Posted: 10 months ago
At 1/19/2016 2:43:11 PM, be_diligent wrote:
At 1/19/2016 2:40:29 PM, bulproof wrote:
At 1/19/2016 2:25:54 PM, be_diligent wrote:
From a non-atheist perspective. Here's what I see about atheism and the general rules for all atheists.
I have no interest in reading any more of the stupid, but I will tell you again.
Atheism is the rejection of the man made claim that gods exist.
Now emboss that on a baseball bat and beat yourself over the head with it until you understand it.
F*ck you people are dumb, it's no wonder you're godbotherers.

lol bulproof, calm yourself down. Grab a cup of sleepy-time tea. I'm hear that helps calm an angry and violent person down.
Poor deluded god botherers always get angry when atheists laugh at their nonsense and then project their anger onto the atheist.
Atheism is the rejection of your claim that gods exist, you poor little thing.
Do yourself a favour and get that baseball bat. LMFAO.
Religion is just mind control. George Carlin
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1/19/2016 3:21:28 PM
Posted: 10 months ago
At 1/19/2016 2:53:03 PM, bulproof wrote:
At 1/19/2016 2:43:11 PM, be_diligent wrote:
At 1/19/2016 2:40:29 PM, bulproof wrote:
At 1/19/2016 2:25:54 PM, be_diligent wrote:
From a non-atheist perspective. Here's what I see about atheism and the general rules for all atheists.
I have no interest in reading any more of the stupid, but I will tell you again.
Atheism is the rejection of the man made claim that gods exist.
Now emboss that on a baseball bat and beat yourself over the head with it until you understand it.
F*ck you people are dumb, it's no wonder you're godbotherers.

lol bulproof, calm yourself down. Grab a cup of sleepy-time tea. I'm hear that helps calm an angry and violent person down.
Poor deluded god botherers always get angry when atheists laugh at their nonsense and then project their anger onto the atheist.
Atheism is the rejection of your claim that gods exist, you poor little thing.
Do yourself a favour and get that baseball bat. LMFAO.

What? Another video of bulproof! I didn't know you were so well known!

https://www.youtube.com...
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1/19/2016 3:29:38 PM
Posted: 10 months ago
At 1/19/2016 2:25:54 PM, be_diligent wrote:
From a non-atheist perspective. Here's what I see about atheism and the general rules for all atheists.

Wow is that how most believers see non believers. That would explain all the confusion and lack of understanding.
If you would like to know about atheism, they hide information like that in books.
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1/19/2016 3:31:44 PM
Posted: 10 months ago
At 1/19/2016 3:29:38 PM, missmedic wrote:
At 1/19/2016 2:25:54 PM, be_diligent wrote:
From a non-atheist perspective. Here's what I see about atheism and the general rules for all atheists.

Wow is that how most believers see non believers. That would explain all the confusion and lack of understanding.
If you would like to know about atheism, they hide information like that in books.

Oh my missmedic, it's been a while!

I could care a less about what atheists believe. Just making some observations.

What brings you to a religious forum?
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1/19/2016 3:41:14 PM
Posted: 10 months ago
I'm an atheist. I have never made a big deal of God being on money or in the Pledge. Every time I help at the church food pantry, I am present during their group prayer. I bow my head and wait patiently until it is complete. Many Christians have told me they will pray for me, and I have welcomed it.

I enjoy gospel music. I'm particularly fond of Bill Gaither's version of "This Ole House." Living in the country, I swim in a perpetual soup of theism. Churches are like Starbucks around here. Three on every corner. It seems quite normal to me. If I was offended by the mere sight of religion, I would not be able to step outside my front door.
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1/19/2016 3:41:29 PM
Posted: 10 months ago
At 1/19/2016 3:31:44 PM, be_diligent wrote:
At 1/19/2016 3:29:38 PM, missmedic wrote:
At 1/19/2016 2:25:54 PM, be_diligent wrote:
From a non-atheist perspective. Here's what I see about atheism and the general rules for all atheists.

Wow is that how most believers see non believers. That would explain all the confusion and lack of understanding.
If you would like to know about atheism, they hide information like that in books.

Oh my missmedic, it's been a while!

I could care a less about what atheists believe. Just making some observations.

What brings you to a religious forum?

Well most religious people don't understand complex concepts, so I thought I mite help educate and help them to intellectual maturity.
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1/19/2016 3:46:24 PM
Posted: 10 months ago
At 1/19/2016 3:41:29 PM, missmedic wrote:
At 1/19/2016 3:31:44 PM, be_diligent wrote:
At 1/19/2016 3:29:38 PM, missmedic wrote:
At 1/19/2016 2:25:54 PM, be_diligent wrote:
From a non-atheist perspective. Here's what I see about atheism and the general rules for all atheists.

Wow is that how most believers see non believers. That would explain all the confusion and lack of understanding.
If you would like to know about atheism, they hide information like that in books.

Oh my missmedic, it's been a while!

I could care a less about what atheists believe. Just making some observations.

What brings you to a religious forum?

Well most religious people don't understand complex concepts, so I thought I mite help educate and help them to intellectual maturity.

Yes yes, I figured as much...lol

So when are you going to begin? I'll wait patiently....
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1/19/2016 3:48:36 PM
Posted: 10 months ago
At 1/19/2016 3:41:14 PM, Casten wrote:
I'm an atheist. I have never made a big deal of God being on money or in the Pledge. Every time I help at the church food pantry, I am present during their group prayer. I bow my head and wait patiently until it is complete. Many Christians have told me they will pray for me, and I have welcomed it.

I enjoy gospel music. I'm particularly fond of Bill Gaither's version of "This Ole House." Living in the country, I swim in a perpetual soup of theism. Churches are like Starbucks around here. Three on every corner. It seems quite normal to me. If I was offended by the mere sight of religion, I would not be able to step outside my front door.

I think I might go postal if I lived there, to be surrounded by such willful ignorance and downright stupidity might do my head in.
You're a better person than me. HUZZAH
Religion is just mind control. George Carlin
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1/19/2016 3:52:22 PM
Posted: 10 months ago
At 1/19/2016 3:46:24 PM, be_diligent wrote:
At 1/19/2016 3:41:29 PM, missmedic wrote:
At 1/19/2016 3:31:44 PM, be_diligent wrote:
At 1/19/2016 3:29:38 PM, missmedic wrote:
At 1/19/2016 2:25:54 PM, be_diligent wrote:
From a non-atheist perspective. Here's what I see about atheism and the general rules for all atheists.

Wow is that how most believers see non believers. That would explain all the confusion and lack of understanding.
If you would like to know about atheism, they hide information like that in books.

Oh my missmedic, it's been a while!

I could care a less about what atheists believe. Just making some observations.

What brings you to a religious forum?

Well most religious people don't understand complex concepts, so I thought I mite help educate and help them to intellectual maturity.

Yes yes, I figured as much...lol

So when are you going to begin? I'll wait patiently....

lets start with enlightenment and what it means, shall we?
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1/19/2016 3:53:36 PM
Posted: 10 months ago
At 1/19/2016 3:41:14 PM, Casten wrote:
I'm an atheist. I have never made a big deal of God being on money or in the Pledge. Every time I help at the church food pantry, I am present during their group prayer. I bow my head and wait patiently until it is complete. Many Christians have told me they will pray for me, and I have welcomed it.

I enjoy gospel music. I'm particularly fond of Bill Gaither's version of "This Ole House." Living in the country, I swim in a perpetual soup of theism. Churches are like Starbucks around here. Three on every corner. It seems quite normal to me. If I was offended by the mere sight of religion, I would not be able to step outside my front door.

That's cool, I like the Gather's too.

I don't attend a church. I don't believe that most are very biblical.
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1/19/2016 3:57:18 PM
Posted: 10 months ago
At 1/19/2016 3:52:22 PM, missmedic wrote:
At 1/19/2016 3:46:24 PM, be_diligent wrote:
At 1/19/2016 3:41:29 PM, missmedic wrote:
At 1/19/2016 3:31:44 PM, be_diligent wrote:
At 1/19/2016 3:29:38 PM, missmedic wrote:
At 1/19/2016 2:25:54 PM, be_diligent wrote:
From a non-atheist perspective. Here's what I see about atheism and the general rules for all atheists.

Wow is that how most believers see non believers. That would explain all the confusion and lack of understanding.
If you would like to know about atheism, they hide information like that in books.

Oh my missmedic, it's been a while!

I could care a less about what atheists believe. Just making some observations.

What brings you to a religious forum?

Well most religious people don't understand complex concepts, so I thought I mite help educate and help them to intellectual maturity.

Yes yes, I figured as much...lol

So when are you going to begin? I'll wait patiently....

lets start with enlightenment and what it means, shall we?

Goodness, this should be interesting. Haven't I told you that I'm no stranger to your idea of "enlightenment.?" I know exactly where that false "enlightenment," leads.

I know it's false, there's only one who really can light your understanding. Only Jesus.

The devil is working overtime on you with his counterfeit garbage.

It's actually worse than atheism, and has actually worked it's way into some churches...

How smart you are....sigh.
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1/19/2016 4:14:38 PM
Posted: 10 months ago
At 1/19/2016 3:57:18 PM, be_diligent wrote:
At 1/19/2016 3:52:22 PM, missmedic wrote:
At 1/19/2016 3:46:24 PM, be_diligent wrote:
At 1/19/2016 3:41:29 PM, missmedic wrote:
At 1/19/2016 3:31:44 PM, be_diligent wrote:
At 1/19/2016 3:29:38 PM, missmedic wrote:
At 1/19/2016 2:25:54 PM, be_diligent wrote:
From a non-atheist perspective. Here's what I see about atheism and the general rules for all atheists.

Wow is that how most believers see non believers. That would explain all the confusion and lack of understanding.
If you would like to know about atheism, they hide information like that in books.

Oh my missmedic, it's been a while!

I could care a less about what atheists believe. Just making some observations.

What brings you to a religious forum?

Well most religious people don't understand complex concepts, so I thought I mite help educate and help them to intellectual maturity.

Yes yes, I figured as much...lol

So when are you going to begin? I'll wait patiently....

lets start with enlightenment and what it means, shall we?

Goodness, this should be interesting. Haven't I told you that I'm no stranger to your idea of "enlightenment.?" I know exactly where that false "enlightenment," leads.

I know it's false, there's only one who really can light your understanding. Only Jesus.

The devil is working overtime on you with his counterfeit garbage.

It's actually worse than atheism, and has actually worked it's way into some churches...

How smart you are....sigh.

And an other mind slams shut.
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1/19/2016 4:19:02 PM
Posted: 10 months ago
At 1/19/2016 3:48:36 PM, bulproof wrote:
At 1/19/2016 3:41:14 PM, Casten wrote:
I'm an atheist. I have never made a big deal of God being on money or in the Pledge. Every time I help at the church food pantry, I am present during their group prayer. I bow my head and wait patiently until it is complete. Many Christians have told me they will pray for me, and I have welcomed it.

I enjoy gospel music. I'm particularly fond of Bill Gaither's version of "This Ole House." Living in the country, I swim in a perpetual soup of theism. Churches are like Starbucks around here. Three on every corner. It seems quite normal to me. If I was offended by the mere sight of religion, I would not be able to step outside my front door.

I think I might go postal if I lived there, to be surrounded by such willful ignorance and downright stupidity might do my head in.
You're a better person than me. HUZZAH
But the upsides! Christians can COOK, lemme tell you. They're always bringing me something homemade and delicious. The ham the people next door bring me -- oh my goodness. I think they put cocaine in it or something. They will actually keep their own gardens and grow their own organic food to put in their own homemade super special organic recipes that you can find nowhere else on Earth -- plus, the cocaine.

And their church potlucks and meetings and stuff -- basically social gatherings where other culinary masters compare notes and exchange recipes so that the supercharged deliciousness becomes even more delicious. And if one person doesn't have a certain fruit/vegetable from their own garden, someone ELSE with a private garden gives them some, so there's like this communal pool of homegrown produce. It's like a yum factory.

All these recipes are passed down from all these Christian ancestral lines that meet at a single point of distribution at the church. It is GLORIOUS. All you have to do is express an interest in a given dish, and they will remember that you like it. Every. Single. Year. You never have to remind them. Every time they make it, you're on the list of recipients now. Sometimes you'll forget, only to remember when they knock on your door. "OH MY GOD I FORGOT IT'S HAM DAY." "OH MY GOD I FORGOT IT'S FUDGE DAY." The anticipatory salivary response -- there are no words.

Also they take that "love thy neighbor" stuff pretty seriously. My neighbor just got done helping me fix a bad ground wire in the car.
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1/19/2016 4:21:00 PM
Posted: 10 months ago
At 1/19/2016 4:14:38 PM, missmedic wrote:
At 1/19/2016 3:57:18 PM, be_diligent wrote:
At 1/19/2016 3:52:22 PM, missmedic wrote:
At 1/19/2016 3:46:24 PM, be_diligent wrote:
At 1/19/2016 3:41:29 PM, missmedic wrote:
At 1/19/2016 3:31:44 PM, be_diligent wrote:
At 1/19/2016 3:29:38 PM, missmedic wrote:
At 1/19/2016 2:25:54 PM, be_diligent wrote:
From a non-atheist perspective. Here's what I see about atheism and the general rules for all atheists.

Wow is that how most believers see non believers. That would explain all the confusion and lack of understanding.
If you would like to know about atheism, they hide information like that in books.

Oh my missmedic, it's been a while!

I could care a less about what atheists believe. Just making some observations.

What brings you to a religious forum?

Well most religious people don't understand complex concepts, so I thought I mite help educate and help them to intellectual maturity.

Yes yes, I figured as much...lol

So when are you going to begin? I'll wait patiently....

lets start with enlightenment and what it means, shall we?

Goodness, this should be interesting. Haven't I told you that I'm no stranger to your idea of "enlightenment.?" I know exactly where that false "enlightenment," leads.

I know it's false, there's only one who really can light your understanding. Only Jesus.

The devil is working overtime on you with his counterfeit garbage.

It's actually worse than atheism, and has actually worked it's way into some churches...

How smart you are....sigh.

And an other mind slams shut.

Oh no no no no no...

When I believed like you do my mind was slammed shut.

You'd never believe me if I told you where you're heading.

Just remember that Jesus was merciful to me. You have someone who is warning you. I had no one warning me. I know exactly what's going on.

Psalms 40:2 He brought me up also out of an horrible pit, out of the miry clay, and set my feet upon a rock, and established my goings.
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1/19/2016 4:23:45 PM
Posted: 10 months ago
At 1/19/2016 4:21:00 PM, be_diligent wrote:
When I believed like you do my mind was slammed shut.
What do you claim to know of Missmedic's beliefs?
Religion is just mind control. George Carlin
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1/19/2016 4:25:13 PM
Posted: 10 months ago
At 1/19/2016 3:53:36 PM, be_diligent wrote:
At 1/19/2016 3:41:14 PM, Casten wrote:
I'm an atheist. I have never made a big deal of God being on money or in the Pledge. Every time I help at the church food pantry, I am present during their group prayer. I bow my head and wait patiently until it is complete. Many Christians have told me they will pray for me, and I have welcomed it.

I enjoy gospel music. I'm particularly fond of Bill Gaither's version of "This Ole House." Living in the country, I swim in a perpetual soup of theism. Churches are like Starbucks around here. Three on every corner. It seems quite normal to me. If I was offended by the mere sight of religion, I would not be able to step outside my front door.

That's cool, I like the Gather's too.

I don't attend a church. I don't believe that most are very biblical.
I tend to judge a church based on how kind and cheery it is. But I'm an atheist. Biblical adherence is not my department.
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1/19/2016 4:25:22 PM
Posted: 10 months ago
At 1/19/2016 4:23:45 PM, bulproof wrote:
At 1/19/2016 4:21:00 PM, be_diligent wrote:
When I believed like you do my mind was slammed shut.
What do you claim to know of Missmedic's beliefs?

Bulproof why don't you ask her what she believes if you want to know? I'm not here to tell you about wickedness. I'm here to share about the goodness of God.

She knows that I'm not ignorant to what she's doing.
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1/19/2016 4:27:07 PM
Posted: 10 months ago
At 1/19/2016 4:25:13 PM, Casten wrote:
At 1/19/2016 3:53:36 PM, be_diligent wrote:
At 1/19/2016 3:41:14 PM, Casten wrote:
I'm an atheist. I have never made a big deal of God being on money or in the Pledge. Every time I help at the church food pantry, I am present during their group prayer. I bow my head and wait patiently until it is complete. Many Christians have told me they will pray for me, and I have welcomed it.

I enjoy gospel music. I'm particularly fond of Bill Gaither's version of "This Ole House." Living in the country, I swim in a perpetual soup of theism. Churches are like Starbucks around here. Three on every corner. It seems quite normal to me. If I was offended by the mere sight of religion, I would not be able to step outside my front door.

That's cool, I like the Gather's too.

I don't attend a church. I don't believe that most are very biblical.
I tend to judge a church based on how kind and cheery it is. But I'm an atheist. Biblical adherence is not my department.

I appreciate your honesty Casten. From what I've seen on these forums, you're a rare one.
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1/19/2016 4:36:01 PM
Posted: 10 months ago
Tl;dr

It seems the gist of your post is that you would like for your speculation to be treated as fact. You prefer for those who do not share your views to be quiet while you insert your unsubstantiated beliefs into medicine, politics, education, etc., and ultimately attempt to control others. That's not reasonable, brother. Back up your claims or back away from forcefully injecting your views into society.
This thread is like eavesdropping on a conversation in a mental asylum. - Bulproof

You can call your invisible friends whatever you like. - Desmac

What the hell kind of coked up sideshow has this thread turned into. - Casten
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1/19/2016 4:53:50 PM
Posted: 10 months ago
At 1/19/2016 4:25:22 PM, be_diligent wrote:
At 1/19/2016 4:23:45 PM, bulproof wrote:
At 1/19/2016 4:21:00 PM, be_diligent wrote:
When I believed like you do my mind was slammed shut.
What do you claim to know of Missmedic's beliefs?

Bulproof why don't you ask her what she believes if you want to know? I'm not here to tell you about wickedness. I'm here to share about the goodness of God.

She knows that I'm not ignorant to what she's doing.
Because I don't claim to KNOW what she believes, that's you little boy.
You tell us what she knows since you claim knowledge of such.
Pathetic aren't you.
Religion is just mind control. George Carlin
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1/19/2016 4:58:27 PM
Posted: 10 months ago
At 1/19/2016 4:53:50 PM, bulproof wrote:
At 1/19/2016 4:25:22 PM, be_diligent wrote:
At 1/19/2016 4:23:45 PM, bulproof wrote:
At 1/19/2016 4:21:00 PM, be_diligent wrote:
When I believed like you do my mind was slammed shut.
What do you claim to know of Missmedic's beliefs?

Bulproof why don't you ask her what she believes if you want to know? I'm not here to tell you about wickedness. I'm here to share about the goodness of God.

She knows that I'm not ignorant to what she's doing.
Because I don't claim to KNOW what she believes, that's you little boy.
You tell us what she knows since you claim knowledge of such.
Pathetic aren't you.

Hey bulproof. I'm not a boy...lol

Shows how much you know.....
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1/19/2016 5:00:52 PM
Posted: 10 months ago
At 1/19/2016 4:58:27 PM, be_diligent wrote:
At 1/19/2016 4:53:50 PM, bulproof wrote:
At 1/19/2016 4:25:22 PM, be_diligent wrote:
At 1/19/2016 4:23:45 PM, bulproof wrote:
At 1/19/2016 4:21:00 PM, be_diligent wrote:
When I believed like you do my mind was slammed shut.
What do you claim to know of Missmedic's beliefs?

Bulproof why don't you ask her what she believes if you want to know? I'm not here to tell you about wickedness. I'm here to share about the goodness of God.

She knows that I'm not ignorant to what she's doing.
Because I don't claim to KNOW what she believes, that's you little boy.
You tell us what she knows since you claim knowledge of such.
Pathetic aren't you.

Hey bulproof. I'm not a boy...lol

Shows how much you know.....
My apologies. Corrected, just for you.

Because I don't claim to KNOW what she believes, that's you little girl.
You tell us what she knows since you claim knowledge of such.
Pathetic aren't you.
Religion is just mind control. George Carlin
be_diligent
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1/19/2016 5:10:50 PM
Posted: 10 months ago
At 1/19/2016 5:00:52 PM, bulproof wrote:
At 1/19/2016 4:58:27 PM, be_diligent wrote:
At 1/19/2016 4:53:50 PM, bulproof wrote:
At 1/19/2016 4:25:22 PM, be_diligent wrote:
At 1/19/2016 4:23:45 PM, bulproof wrote:
At 1/19/2016 4:21:00 PM, be_diligent wrote:
When I believed like you do my mind was slammed shut.
What do you claim to know of Missmedic's beliefs?

Bulproof why don't you ask her what she believes if you want to know? I'm not here to tell you about wickedness. I'm here to share about the goodness of God.

She knows that I'm not ignorant to what she's doing.
Because I don't claim to KNOW what she believes, that's you little boy.
You tell us what she knows since you claim knowledge of such.
Pathetic aren't you.

Hey bulproof. I'm not a boy...lol

Shows how much you know.....
My apologies. Corrected, just for you.

Because I don't claim to KNOW what she believes, that's you little girl.
You tell us what she knows since you claim knowledge of such.
Pathetic aren't you.

Hey bulproof, why you little ($#@$#$#). See the can crush at the end of this short video. You are the can!

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1/19/2016 5:35:30 PM
Posted: 10 months ago
At 1/19/2016 2:25:54 PM, be_diligent wrote:
My actual view is that atheists who hang out in religious forums actually, deep down inside want to believe!

About 70% of religious people inherit the faith of their parents, BD, and some 75% of atheists are formerly people of faith. So I think many atheists have once wanted to believe, but found the ideas morally or intellectually bankrupt, and their families and communities either suppressing question, or in denial that questions are warranted.

If so, that'd be doubly disappointing, wouldn't it? To realise that the people claiming to be moral and intellectual authorities in your community aren't really authorities at all, and that your parents and family not only don't understand your questioning and challenging that authority, but may feel you are doing something immoral by questioning at all?

So it might be similar to your conjecture, but a bit different -- many atheists have wanted to believe, but now they want people who remind them of friends and family members to think and question more.

But it differs by individual.

In my case, I have no personal history of religious belief. I'm interested in the history of human thought, and our efforts to develop morality and a better understanding of one another and the world around us. So Arts, Philosophy, Religion, Mathematics, Science, Engineering, and Technology are all of interest to me. I'm interested in how they developed, how they diverged, how they support, contest, challenge and improve one another.

I like talking to religious people for the same reason I like talking to thoughtful, self-examined religious nones: because I like people who are drawn to self-reflection and moral exploration, regardless of their creed. While it may look like I might criticise everything anyone of faith says, it really depends what you say and how you argue and support it. Bear in mind that on a debating site, many religious positions are stated adversarially to start with. I.e, they're stated in the form 'why don't you believe this'. They court criticism by doing so, and your contributions to the recent Muslim-bashing threads are certainly of that form.

On the other hand, when you tried to defend the legitimacy of an exclusive heaven, I made a single comment: that I think the morality of Christian dogma inadequate, and that I thought modern Christians more moral than ancient Biblical authors because they're more informed and self-examined. You told me you thought the Ten Commandments adequate, and we exchanged no other words. I didn't press the point, because you showed no inclination to discuss what makes a moral code good, and evidenced no interest in my ideas.

When I post a thread myself (infrequently), it's often in the form of a genuine question, like 'What do you think about blasphemy laws', and I seldom take a position of advocacy in my own threads. Or sometimes I'll start a thread because someone has asked me to, and my purpose will be to explain a position, rather than insist it's the only position anyone might take.

if you were to post a question like 'what is good', or 'how can people of different faiths agree on good', I'd have no reason to criticise that question, and depending on what you argued, might well laud its exploration.

Or put it this way: if you adopt a narrow-minded, dogmatic position then I'm likely to test its research and reasoning. If instead, you adopt a reasoned and researched position open to alternatives, I'm more likely to explore alternatives and implications with you.

In another thread I recently said you get to pick your own adventure. That's how you get to pick it, with me at least.
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1/19/2016 5:38:55 PM
Posted: 10 months ago
At 1/19/2016 2:25:54 PM, be_diligent wrote:
From a non-atheist perspective. Here's what I see about atheism and the general rules for all atheists.

1. If you don't believe in something make the biggest fuss that you can. Get angry, stomp your feet and yell as loudly as you can to make sure that everyone knows that what you don't believe in it. After all, when something is imaginary to you that should always make you angry! You can even resort to behaving like a child and throw a fit!

Some examples:

2. Lets say that you don't believe in circles. Every time you see a circle start throwing a fit! Tell those ignorant circle believers to stop trying to force feed you circles. Have all of those circles removed from public places. If the said circles will not be removed insist that squares be placed there as well! After all, squares are more logical.

3. If you are driving down the road and you see a sign that says, "Join us for free circles," that should make you see red! How dare they put up signs advertising their circles. They are so offensive, unlike the many pornographic signs around the city that your families are bombarded by every day! Those are more logical. Insist that those circles be replaced with immoral signs that are pleasing and more acceptable to squares!

4. Since you hardly ever have any circleians who actually go into squareist territory to "force feed you circles," you must go into their territory, after all they are bothering YOU with their circle signs, and all of their circle ideas. If you are on the internet find circleian forums and chat rooms and harass them with your square theology.

5. If you are flipping through television channels, and you happen to find a Circleian station get angry! After all, every squareist has a remote control that does not have an option that allows them to change the channel.

6. As a squareist, you can always write a book for other squareist( like yourselves) who absolutely despise the the things that they don't believe in, mainly the circleians! Explain to other squareist why immoral television channels are so much better for the world, and entice them to take a stand against those moral speaking circleians! After all, decency should not be tolerated!

4. A squareist mission should always be to stomp out hope and faith of anyone who even speaks of these things!

That sort of sums it up, although I'm sure that the list can go on and on....

My actual view is that atheists who hang out in religious forums actually, deep down inside want to believe! That is why they spend so much time around something that they say they don't believe in. That is why they get so angry, because they want to believe in God, and so they spend hours on end each day looking for proof. Disguising themselves with anger.

I like that option much better.

this is excellent and so true..