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1/25/2016 6:21:30 AM
Posted: 10 months ago
Bs"d

Was JC the messiah?

NOOOO!!!!!

For the finer details look here: http://MountZion.notlong.com...
Please be advised that everywhere in your translation of your OT when it is written "the LORD" with all capitals, then in the original Hebrew it says the four lettered name of God: Y-H-W-H. That name appears almost 7000 times in the Hebrew Bible.
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1/25/2016 9:37:29 AM
Posted: 10 months ago
At 1/25/2016 6:21:30 AM, Eliyahu7 wrote:
Bs"d

Was JC the messiah?

NOOOO!!!!!

For the finer details look here: http://MountZion.notlong.com...

To begin with, Jesus is not God. He was the man that "Who I Am" chose from among the Israelites and sent him to speak in his name.

Deuteronomy 18: 18; "I will send them a prophet like you from among their own people. I will tell him what to say, and he will tell the people everything I command. He will speak in my name and I will punish anyone who refuses to obey him, etc."

This is verified by Peter who says in reference to the man Jesus in Acts 3: 22; "For Moses said; "The Lord your God will send you a prophet, just as he sent me, and he will be one of your own people, etc."

Did the people of his day believe that he was the Lord, the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. The God of our ancestors? No, they did not, for on the day of his triumphant entry into Jerusalem, the people escorting him cried out, "BLESSED IS HE WHO COMES IN THE NAME OF THE LORD" Verifying that they believed Jesus to be the one that God had prophesied through Moses, that he would choose from among the Israelites, and send to the people to speak in his name.

1st Timothy 1:1; "From Paul, an apostle of Christ Jesus by order of "GOD OUR SAVIOUR" and Christ Jesus "OUR HOPE."

Acts 3: 19-20; "Repent the and turn to God, (Not to Jesus) so that God will forgive your sins. If you do, times of spiritual strength will come from the Lord, and he will send Jesus, who is the "MESSIAH" that God has "CHOSEN" for you.

Jesus admits that he spoke not one word on his own authority, but only that which he was commanded to say by our Lord God and saviour, who chose him as the one to speak in his name, "Who I Am," and Jesus says in John 5: 24; "Whoever hear my words (The words that he was commanded to say) and believes in "HIM" who sent me, has eternal life.

John 14: 24; "And the word which you hear is not mine, but the Father's who sent me.

Whose words were these in reference to the body of Jesus which had been filled by the spirit=information=words of the Lord which had descended upon him in the form of a dove?

"Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up?" They were the words that Jesus was commanded to say by "Who I Am," who raised that body which he had been filled with his spirit.

Acts 5: 30; The God of our fathers raised up Jesus, whom you slew and hanged on a tree.

Acts 13: 30; But God raised him from the dead: and he was seen many days of them which came up with him from Galilee, etc.

1st Corinthians 6: 14; And God has both raised up the Lord, and will also raise up us by his own power.

2nd Corinthians 1: 9; But we had the sentence of death in ourselves, that we should not trust in ourselves, but in God which raiseth the dead.

2nd Corinthians 4: 14; knowing that he who raised the Lord Jesus will raise us also with Jesus and bring us with you into his presence.

Acts 3: 13; The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, the God of our fathers, has given divine glory to his servant Jesus-

Jesus was the earthly host body through who the spirit of our Lord God and saviour (The anointed one) revealed himself to mankind.

Act 17: 31; For he (The God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob.) has fixed a day (A period of one thousand years) in which he will judge the whole world with justice by means of a MAN he has CHOSEN. He has given proof of this to everyone by raising that MAN from death.

The DAY that the Lord God our saviour has fixed, in which He will judge the whole world with Justice, is "The Day of the Lord," the Sabbath Day, or the seventh period of one thousand years, the seventh day from the first day in which Adam ate of the forbidden fruit and died in that first day at the age of 930.

From the Book of Jubilees 4: 30; "And He (Adam) lacked seventy years of one thousand years; for one thousand years are as one day in the testimony of the heavens and therefore was it written concerning the tree of knowledge: "On the day thou eat thereof ye shall die." For this reason Adam did not complete the years of that first day; for He died during it."

We are now coming to the close of the sixth day, from that first day that Adam ate of the forbidden fruit, and died at the age of 930.

According to Jewish time, the first destruction of the Temple of Solomon, was 3338 AM, which is 3338 years from Adam. Our time for that destruction of the temple is 587 BC. So adding 587 to 3338, we see that from the birth of Adam to 1 BC=1AD there is 3925 years, add to that the current date, 2016, (3,925+ 2016=5,941) and we are now living in the 5,941th year from the birth of Adam (These dates are very ambiguous) which leaves us, if those dates are correct, another 59 years before the close of the 6th day and the beginning of the 7th, which is the great Sabbath, "The Day of The Lord" the seventh period of one thousand years from the day that Adam ate of the forbidden fruit and died in that first day at the age of 930, which 7th day begins with the greatest period of tribulation that this world has ever seen.
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1/25/2016 11:28:41 AM
Posted: 10 months ago
Jesus is a long dead guy who made a bit of a name for himself by being a pain in the butt where the religious authorities of the day were concerned. He then became an icon for a religion founded well after he died.
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1/25/2016 11:36:23 AM
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At 1/25/2016 11:28:41 AM, JJ50 wrote:
Jesus is a long dead guy who made a bit of a name for himself by being a pain in the butt where the religious authorities of the day were concerned. He then became an icon for a religion founded well after he died.

Here come the biblically ignorant atheists spewing out their negativity, in their endeavour to derail the thread.

They are like a mob of screeching seagulls, they fly in crap on your post and fly out, leaving only the shyt that they are full of.
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1/25/2016 11:50:48 AM
Posted: 10 months ago
At 1/25/2016 9:37:29 AM, Gentorev wrote:
At 1/25/2016 6:21:30 AM, Eliyahu7 wrote:
Bs"d

Was JC the messiah?

NOOOO!!!!!

For the finer details look here: http://MountZion.notlong.com...

To begin with, Jesus is not God. He was the man that "Who I Am" chose from among the Israelites and sent him to speak in his name.

Deuteronomy 18: 18; "I will send them a prophet like you from among their own people. I will tell him what to say, and he will tell the people everything I command. He will speak in my name and I will punish anyone who refuses to obey him, etc."

Bs"d

He was a false prophet, so he was not a prophet like Moses, who was a real prophet:

Let us take a look at the prophetic qualities of Jesus.

In Matthew 4:17 he claims that the kingdom of heaven is at hand..

Now, almost 2000 years later, the kingdom is still not here.

This claim of Jesus to return soon in order to judge the whole world is all over the New Testament. Look for instance in Revelations 1:1-3, idem 3:11, idem 22:6, 10-12, 20. Everywhere here is spoken about a soon return and the early Christian communities were expecting the return of Christ in their lifetimes, as we can read in I Corinthians 7:29, Romans 13:11-12, and I Peter 4:7. Their belief in a return of Christ in their lifetimes was based upon very clear, not to be misunderstood statements of Jesus. Look for an impressive prophesy in Mark 13:24-30: "The sun shall be darkened and the moon shall not give her light. And the stars of heaven will fall and the powers that are in heaven shall be shaken. And then they shall see the son of man coming in the clouds with great power and glory. And then he shall send his angels and shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from the uttermost part of the earth to the uttermost part of heaven ".. Verily I say to you, that this generation shall not pass till all these things be done." See also Matthew 24:29-35 and Luke 21;25-33. .

This generation passed away almost 2000 years ago, and no one has seen him coming back on the clouds to establish his kingdom of peace and gather in his elected Christians.

In Matthew 16:27-28 Jesus says: "For the son of man shall come in the glory of his father with his angels; and then he shall reward every man according to his works. Verily I say unto you, there be some standing here which shall not taste of death till they see the son of man coming in his kingdom." See also Mark 9:1

Did anybody see him coming in his kingdom? Is every man already rewarded according to his works?... But some of them would not die until they would have seen him coming in his kingdom!...Are they still around today?....Even Methuselah didn't live that long!

From this we must conclude that Jesus has a very poor resume as a prophet. What does the Holy Torah that the only eternal G.d gave to the Jewish people say about this?

Deuteronomy 18:20-22: "But the prophet which shall presume to speak a word in my name which I have not commanded him to speak, or that shall speak in the name of other gods, even that prophet shall die. And if you say in your heart; how shall we know the word that the LORD has not spoken? When a prophet speaks in the name of the LORD, if the thing follows not, nor come to pass, this is the thing that the LORD has not spoken, but the prophet has spoken it presumptuously, you shall not be afraid of him."

Here G.d commands the Jewish people to execute false prophets, who are prophets whose prophecies do not come true. Jesus is a perfect example of a prophet whose prophecy did not come true.

And because of the fact that JC did not fulfil the messianic prophecies, we know that he was not the messiah.
Please be advised that everywhere in your translation of your OT when it is written "the LORD" with all capitals, then in the original Hebrew it says the four lettered name of God: Y-H-W-H. That name appears almost 7000 times in the Hebrew Bible.
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1/25/2016 12:27:51 PM
Posted: 10 months ago
At 1/25/2016 11:36:23 AM, Gentorev wrote:
At 1/25/2016 11:28:41 AM, JJ50 wrote:
Jesus is a long dead guy who made a bit of a name for himself by being a pain in the butt where the religious authorities of the day were concerned. He then became an icon for a religion founded well after he died.

Here come the biblically ignorant atheists spewing out their negativity, in their endeavour to derail the thread.

They are like a mob of screeching seagulls, they fly in crap on your post and fly out, leaving only the shyt that they are full of.

I have probably read that not so good book more times than you have! Your nonsense has no evidence to support it whatsoever!
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1/26/2016 3:15:06 AM
Posted: 10 months ago
At 1/25/2016 12:27:51 PM, JJ50 wrote:
At 1/25/2016 11:36:23 AM, Gentorev wrote:
At 1/25/2016 11:28:41 AM, JJ50 wrote:
Jesus is a long dead guy who made a bit of a name for himself by being a pain in the butt where the religious authorities of the day were concerned. He then became an icon for a religion founded well after he died.

Here come the biblically ignorant atheists spewing out their negativity, in their endeavour to derail the thread.

They are like a mob of screeching seagulls, they fly in crap on your post and fly out, leaving only the shyt that they are full of.

I have probably read that not so good book more times than you have! Your nonsense has no evidence to support it whatsoever!

Look up my profile and see my age, then know that I have been reading the scriptures, since I was about 15, and I do not refer to the limited cannon that the Roman Universal church that was established in the 4th century by Emperor Constantine, which church is referred to as Babylon the Great, the Famous Prostitute and her harlot daughter denominations that broke away from her body after being fed on her spiritual crap, crap that is not supported by the very canon that she allows her captives to feed upon.

I have read all the scriptures that Jesus and his apostles taught from, and still today I continue to study the words of He who mentally descended from the heights of time and inspired his chosen scribes to record his words.

People under hypnosis or in deep meditation, have been known to mentally descend deep into their own inner being and to merge with the mind of one of their past ancestors, where they have received visions of those time, and the body under hypnosis has been heard to speak in the tongue of that ancestor, a language that was totally unfamiliar to him.

Come travel with me on a journey through time
Not in some capsule, but in our minds
To the Inner Most Sanctuary will we descend
To that single cell from which your body began
In the Holy of Holies where all is one
Where all of space and time is joined
We"ll mingle there with other minds
From other lands, in other times
Minds of the past, who seem dead and gone
And minds of the future who are yet unborn
For they in their time, whether here on this world
Or some distant planet to which they"ve been lured
Will enter their inner most sanctuary too
And there perhaps they"ll merge with you
Ah! To travel through space In the wink of an eye
One with your child on some world way on high
And if this is but madness, then madness it be
But come my mad brothers, come fly with me.....Gentorev

I have all the evidence that I need, as for you, I would advise you to try reading the good book once more, but this time try to comprehend that which you read.

But seeing that you have read the scriptures so many time, please explain to all, who Is Azazel?
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1/26/2016 3:55:57 AM
Posted: 10 months ago
At 1/25/2016 6:21:30 AM, Eliyahu7 wrote:
Bs"d

Was JC the messiah?

NOOOO!!!!!

For the finer details look here: http://MountZion.notlong.com... : :

Thy servant David is My Word that all My people will hear and get to know in Paradise. It surely isn't a man named Jesus who was one of the bodies I used to testify for Me in this first age. Right now, I AM using the body that wrote this message.

Ezekiel 34
22: I will save my flock, they shall no longer be a prey; and I will judge between sheep and sheep.
23: And I will set up over them one shepherd, my servant David, and he shall feed them: he shall feed them and be their shepherd.
24: And I, the LORD, will be their God, and my servant David shall be prince among them; I, the LORD, have spoken.
25: "I will make with them a covenant of peace and banish wild beasts from the land, so that they may dwell securely in the wilderness and sleep in the woods.
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1/26/2016 4:10:56 AM
Posted: 10 months ago
At 1/26/2016 3:55:57 AM, Elderman wrote:
At 1/25/2016 6:21:30 AM, Eliyahu7 wrote:
Bs"d

Was JC the messiah?

NOOOO!!!!!

For the finer details look here: http://MountZion.notlong.com... : :

Thy servant David is My Word that all My people will hear and get to know in Paradise. It surely isn't a man named Jesus who was one of the bodies I used to testify for Me in this first age. Right now, I AM using the body that wrote this message.

Ezekiel 34
22: I will save my flock, they shall no longer be a prey; and I will judge between sheep and sheep.
23: And I will set up over them one shepherd, my servant David, and he shall feed them: he shall feed them and be their shepherd.
24: And I, the LORD, will be their God, and my servant David shall be prince among them; I, the LORD, have spoken.
25: "I will make with them a covenant of peace and banish wild beasts from the land, so that they may dwell securely in the wilderness and sleep in the woods.

GNB Ezekiel 34: 22-25; "But I will rescue my sheep and not let them be ill-treated any more. I will judge each of my sheep and separate the good from the bad. I will give them a king like my servant David to be their one shepherd, and he will take care of them. I, the Lord, will be their God, and a king like my servant David will be their ruler. I have spoken. I will make a covenant with them that guarantees their security. I will get rid of all the dangerous animals in the land, so that my sheep can live safely in the fields and sleep in the forests.
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1/26/2016 4:51:59 AM
Posted: 10 months ago
At 1/26/2016 3:55:57 AM, Elderman wrote:
At 1/25/2016 6:21:30 AM, Eliyahu7 wrote:
Bs"d

Was JC the messiah?

NOOOO!!!!!

For the finer details look here: http://MountZion.notlong.com... : :

Thy servant David is My Word that all My people will hear and get to know in Paradise. It surely isn't a man named Jesus who was one of the bodies I used to testify for Me in this first age. Right now, I AM using the body that wrote this message.

Ezekiel 34
22: I will save my flock, they shall no longer be a prey; and I will judge between sheep and sheep.
23: And I will set up over them one shepherd, my servant David, and he shall feed them: he shall feed them and be their shepherd.
24: And I, the LORD, will be their God, and my servant David shall be prince among them; I, the LORD, have spoken.
25: "I will make with them a covenant of peace and banish wild beasts from the land, so that they may dwell securely in the wilderness and sleep in the woods.

Bs"d

What's your point?
Please be advised that everywhere in your translation of your OT when it is written "the LORD" with all capitals, then in the original Hebrew it says the four lettered name of God: Y-H-W-H. That name appears almost 7000 times in the Hebrew Bible.
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1/26/2016 8:37:28 AM
Posted: 10 months ago
At 1/25/2016 6:21:30 AM, Eliyahu7 wrote:
Bs"d

Was JC the messiah?

NOOOO!!!!!

For the finer details look here: http://MountZion.notlong.com...
Which one?
The one the historians agree existed or the magical one in the bible?
Religion is just mind control. George Carlin
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1/26/2016 8:42:04 AM
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At 1/25/2016 11:50:48 AM, Eliyahu7 wrote:
At 1/25/2016 9:37:29 AM, Gentorev wrote:
At 1/25/2016 6:21:30 AM, Eliyahu7 wrote:
Bs"d

Was JC the messiah?

NOOOO!!!!!

For the finer details look here: http://MountZion.notlong.com...

To begin with, Jesus is not God. He was the man that "Who I Am" chose from among the Israelites and sent him to speak in his name.

Deuteronomy 18: 18; "I will send them a prophet like you from among their own people. I will tell him what to say, and he will tell the people everything I command. He will speak in my name and I will punish anyone who refuses to obey him, etc."

Bs"d

He was a false prophet, so he was not a prophet like Moses, who was a real prophet:

Let us take a look at the prophetic qualities of Jesus.

In Matthew 4:17 he claims that the kingdom of heaven is at hand..

Now, almost 2000 years later, the kingdom is still not here.

This claim of Jesus to return soon in order to judge the whole world is all over the New Testament. Look for instance in Revelations 1:1-3, idem 3:11, idem 22:6, 10-12, 20. Everywhere here is spoken about a soon return and the early Christian communities were expecting the return of Christ in their lifetimes, as we can read in I Corinthians 7:29, Romans 13:11-12, and I Peter 4:7. Their belief in a return of Christ in their lifetimes was based upon very clear, not to be misunderstood statements of Jesus. Look for an impressive prophesy in Mark 13:24-30: "The sun shall be darkened and the moon shall not give her light. And the stars of heaven will fall and the powers that are in heaven shall be shaken. And then they shall see the son of man coming in the clouds with great power and glory. And then he shall send his angels and shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from the uttermost part of the earth to the uttermost part of heaven ".. Verily I say to you, that this generation shall not pass till all these things be done." See also Matthew 24:29-35 and Luke 21;25-33. .

This generation passed away almost 2000 years ago, and no one has seen him coming back on the clouds to establish his kingdom of peace and gather in his elected Christians.



In Matthew 16:27-28 Jesus says: "For the son of man shall come in the glory of his father with his angels; and then he shall reward every man according to his works. Verily I say unto you, there be some standing here which shall not taste of death till they see the son of man coming in his kingdom." See also Mark 9:1

Did anybody see him coming in his kingdom? Is every man already rewarded according to his works?... But some of them would not die until they would have seen him coming in his kingdom!...Are they still around today?....Even Methuselah didn't live that long!

From this we must conclude that Jesus has a very poor resume as a prophet. What does the Holy Torah that the only eternal G.d gave to the Jewish people say about this?

Deuteronomy 18:20-22: "But the prophet which shall presume to speak a word in my name which I have not commanded him to speak, or that shall speak in the name of other gods, even that prophet shall die. And if you say in your heart; how shall we know the word that the LORD has not spoken? When a prophet speaks in the name of the LORD, if the thing follows not, nor come to pass, this is the thing that the LORD has not spoken, but the prophet has spoken it presumptuously, you shall not be afraid of him."

Here G.d commands the Jewish people to execute false prophets, who are prophets whose prophecies do not come true. Jesus is a perfect example of a prophet whose prophecy did not come true.

And because of the fact that JC did not fulfil the messianic prophecies, we know that he was not the messiah.

Jesus was speaking to his disciples at the time of that prediction and all three synoptic gospels place this promise immediately before the Transfiguration add to this the fact that "kingdom" can refer to royal splendour, and those of his disciples who would see the royal splendour of the Son of Man were (Peter, James, and John) who went with Jesus up the mountain and saw Elijah in all His glory.
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1/26/2016 11:31:30 AM
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The fanciful stories attributed to Jesus have no more credence than the Harry Potter tales, which are a better read!
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1/26/2016 11:39:19 AM
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At 1/26/2016 11:31:30 AM, JJ50 wrote:
The fanciful stories attributed to Jesus have no more credence than the Harry Potter tales, which are a better read!

The negative trolling biblically ignorant godless seagull is back. Have you found out anything about Azazel yet, you trolling godless one?
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1/26/2016 11:44:44 AM
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At 1/26/2016 11:39:19 AM, Gentorev wrote:
At 1/26/2016 11:31:30 AM, JJ50 wrote:
The fanciful stories attributed to Jesus have no more credence than the Harry Potter tales, which are a better read!

The negative trolling biblically ignorant godless seagull is back. Have you found out anything about Azazel yet, you trolling godless one?

I doubt you have ever read the Bible without wearing rose tinted spectacles! Your unpleasant posts bring the faith into disrepute!
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1/26/2016 11:57:51 AM
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At 1/26/2016 8:42:04 AM, Gentorev wrote:
Jesus was speaking to his disciples at the time of that prediction and all three synoptic gospels place this promise immediately before the Transfiguration add to this the fact that "kingdom" can refer to royal splendour, and those of his disciples who would see the royal splendour of the Son of Man were (Peter, James, and John) who went with Jesus up the mountain and saw Elijah in all His glory.

Bs"d

In Matthew 16:27-28 Jesus says: "For the son of man shall come in the glory of his father with his angels; and then he shall reward every man according to his works. Verily I say unto you, there be some standing here which shall not taste of death till they see the son of man coming in his kingdom." See also Mark 9:1

Did anybody see him coming in his kingdom? Is every man already rewarded according to his works?

If not, he was a false prophet.
Please be advised that everywhere in your translation of your OT when it is written "the LORD" with all capitals, then in the original Hebrew it says the four lettered name of God: Y-H-W-H. That name appears almost 7000 times in the Hebrew Bible.
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1/26/2016 12:01:24 PM
Posted: 10 months ago
At 1/26/2016 11:44:44 AM, JJ50 wrote:
At 1/26/2016 11:39:19 AM, Gentorev wrote:
At 1/26/2016 11:31:30 AM, JJ50 wrote:
The fanciful stories attributed to Jesus have no more credence than the Harry Potter tales, which are a better read!

The negative trolling biblically ignorant godless seagull is back. Have you found out anything about Azazel yet, you trolling godless one?

I doubt you have ever read the Bible without wearing rose tinted spectacles! Your unpleasant posts bring the faith into disrepute!

I doubt that you have ever read the bible with any spectacles at all and I do so apologise for bringing your faith in your godless religion into dispute with my posts.

What a pity you have no comprehension of the truths in the Scriptures, and are unable to contribute anything at all of substance to the threads that you haunt.
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1/26/2016 12:35:17 PM
Posted: 10 months ago
At 1/26/2016 12:01:24 PM, Gentorev wrote:
At 1/26/2016 11:44:44 AM, JJ50 wrote:
At 1/26/2016 11:39:19 AM, Gentorev wrote:
At 1/26/2016 11:31:30 AM, JJ50 wrote:
The fanciful stories attributed to Jesus have no more credence than the Harry Potter tales, which are a better read!

The negative trolling biblically ignorant godless seagull is back. Have you found out anything about Azazel yet, you trolling godless one?

I doubt you have ever read the Bible without wearing rose tinted spectacles! Your unpleasant posts bring the faith into disrepute!

I doubt that you have ever read the bible with any spectacles at all and I do so apologise for bringing your faith in your godless religion into dispute with my posts.

What a pity you have no comprehension of the truths in the Scriptures, and are unable to contribute anything at all of substance to the threads that you haunt.

If Jesus was around today I very much doubt he would want people like you in his club, you do him no favours at all!
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1/26/2016 1:04:33 PM
Posted: 10 months ago
At 1/26/2016 8:37:28 AM, bulproof wrote:
At 1/25/2016 6:21:30 AM, Eliyahu7 wrote:
Bs"d

Was JC the messiah?

NOOOO!!!!!

For the finer details look here: http://MountZion.notlong.com...
Which one?
The one the historians agree existed or the magical one in the bible?
Religion is just mind control. George Carlin
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1/26/2016 1:33:02 PM
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At 1/26/2016 1:04:33 PM, bulproof wrote:
At 1/26/2016 8:37:28 AM, bulproof wrote:
At 1/25/2016 6:21:30 AM, Eliyahu7 wrote:
Bs"d

Was JC the messiah?

NOOOO!!!!!

For the finer details look here: http://MountZion.notlong.com...
Which one?
The one the historians agree existed or the magical one in the bible?

Bs"d

Pick which ever one you want.
Please be advised that everywhere in your translation of your OT when it is written "the LORD" with all capitals, then in the original Hebrew it says the four lettered name of God: Y-H-W-H. That name appears almost 7000 times in the Hebrew Bible.
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1/26/2016 4:19:31 PM
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At 1/25/2016 6:21:30 AM, Eliyahu7 wrote:
Bs"d

Was JC the messiah?

NOOOO!!!!!

For the finer details look here: http://MountZion.notlong.com...

Jesus Christ is the Messiah. Jesus ain't going to fulfill any prophecy with the fake Jews. He is only dealing with the real Jews, just as God is only dealing with the real Jews, along with the entire nation of Israel.
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1/26/2016 4:27:35 PM
Posted: 10 months ago
At 1/26/2016 4:19:31 PM, TheWORDisLIFE wrote:
At 1/25/2016 6:21:30 AM, Eliyahu7 wrote:
Bs"d

Was JC the messiah?

NOOOO!!!!!

For the finer details look here: http://MountZion.notlong.com...

Jesus Christ is the Messiah. Jesus ain't going to fulfill any prophecy with the fake Jews. He is only dealing with the real Jews, just as God is only dealing with the real Jews, along with the entire nation of Israel.

Maybe he just ain't done fulfilling prophesy. Jews have so little hope now, they even consider prophesy figurative now...in their new found critiques.
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1/26/2016 4:32:01 PM
Posted: 10 months ago
At 1/26/2016 4:27:35 PM, nothead wrote:
At 1/26/2016 4:19:31 PM, TheWORDisLIFE wrote:
At 1/25/2016 6:21:30 AM, Eliyahu7 wrote:
Bs"d

Was JC the messiah?

NOOOO!!!!!

For the finer details look here: http://MountZion.notlong.com...

Jesus Christ is the Messiah. Jesus ain't going to fulfill any prophecy with the fake Jews. He is only dealing with the real Jews, just as God is only dealing with the real Jews, along with the entire nation of Israel.

Maybe he just ain't done fulfilling prophesy. Jews have so little hope now, they even consider prophesy figurative now...in their new found critiques.

Look, God is not dealing with "white" people and HE certainly would not only be dealing with one of the tribes of Israel, the Jews. HE is dealing with the entire nation of Israel. When the Israelites went into slavery, did God only send the Jews or Judahites, into slavery?
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1/26/2016 4:33:16 PM
Posted: 10 months ago
At 1/26/2016 4:32:01 PM, TheWORDisLIFE wrote:
At 1/26/2016 4:27:35 PM, nothead wrote:
At 1/26/2016 4:19:31 PM, TheWORDisLIFE wrote:
At 1/25/2016 6:21:30 AM, Eliyahu7 wrote:
Bs"d

Was JC the messiah?

NOOOO!!!!!

For the finer details look here: http://MountZion.notlong.com...

Jesus Christ is the Messiah. Jesus ain't going to fulfill any prophecy with the fake Jews. He is only dealing with the real Jews, just as God is only dealing with the real Jews, along with the entire nation of Israel.

Maybe he just ain't done fulfilling prophesy. Jews have so little hope now, they even consider prophesy figurative now...in their new found critiques.

Look, God is not dealing with "white" people and HE certainly would not only be dealing with one of the tribes of Israel, the Jews. HE is dealing with the entire nation of Israel. When the Israelites went into slavery, did God only send the Jews or Judahites, into slavery?

Which thread we on, sir? I thought it was Eliyahu's JC not God thread. You confused or what?
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1/26/2016 4:35:53 PM
Posted: 10 months ago
At 1/26/2016 4:33:16 PM, nothead wrote:
At 1/26/2016 4:32:01 PM, TheWORDisLIFE wrote:
At 1/26/2016 4:27:35 PM, nothead wrote:
At 1/26/2016 4:19:31 PM, TheWORDisLIFE wrote:
At 1/25/2016 6:21:30 AM, Eliyahu7 wrote:
Bs"d

Was JC the messiah?

NOOOO!!!!!

For the finer details look here: http://MountZion.notlong.com...

Jesus Christ is the Messiah. Jesus ain't going to fulfill any prophecy with the fake Jews. He is only dealing with the real Jews, just as God is only dealing with the real Jews, along with the entire nation of Israel.

Maybe he just ain't done fulfilling prophesy. Jews have so little hope now, they even consider prophesy figurative now...in their new found critiques.

Look, God is not dealing with "white" people and HE certainly would not only be dealing with one of the tribes of Israel, the Jews. HE is dealing with the entire nation of Israel. When the Israelites went into slavery, did God only send the Jews or Judahites, into slavery?

Which thread we on, sir? I thought it was Eliyahu's JC not God thread. You confused or what?

Maybe you are confused because if God is dealing with the Israelites only that means the Christ is also dealing with the Israelites only. Christ only came for the lost sheep of the house of Israel (Matthew 15:24), He did not come for the whole world. You confused or what?
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1/26/2016 4:41:07 PM
Posted: 10 months ago
At 1/26/2016 4:35:53 PM, TheWORDisLIFE wrote:
At 1/26/2016 4:33:16 PM, nothead wrote:
At 1/26/2016 4:32:01 PM, TheWORDisLIFE wrote:
At 1/26/2016 4:27:35 PM, nothead wrote:
At 1/26/2016 4:19:31 PM, TheWORDisLIFE wrote:
At 1/25/2016 6:21:30 AM, Eliyahu7 wrote:
Bs"d

Was JC the messiah?

NOOOO!!!!!

For the finer details look here: http://MountZion.notlong.com...

Jesus Christ is the Messiah. Jesus ain't going to fulfill any prophecy with the fake Jews. He is only dealing with the real Jews, just as God is only dealing with the real Jews, along with the entire nation of Israel.

Maybe he just ain't done fulfilling prophesy. Jews have so little hope now, they even consider prophesy figurative now...in their new found critiques.

Look, God is not dealing with "white" people and HE certainly would not only be dealing with one of the tribes of Israel, the Jews. HE is dealing with the entire nation of Israel. When the Israelites went into slavery, did God only send the Jews or Judahites, into slavery?

Which thread we on, sir? I thought it was Eliyahu's JC not God thread. You confused or what?

Maybe you are confused because if God is dealing with the Israelites only that means the Christ is also dealing with the Israelites only. Christ only came for the lost sheep of the house of Israel (Matthew 15:24), He did not come for the whole world. You confused or what?

How did white people get in the mix?
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1/26/2016 5:10:33 PM
Posted: 10 months ago
At 1/26/2016 4:41:07 PM, nothead wrote:
At 1/26/2016 4:35:53 PM, TheWORDisLIFE wrote:
At 1/26/2016 4:33:16 PM, nothead wrote:
At 1/26/2016 4:32:01 PM, TheWORDisLIFE wrote:
At 1/26/2016 4:27:35 PM, nothead wrote:
At 1/26/2016 4:19:31 PM, TheWORDisLIFE wrote:
At 1/25/2016 6:21:30 AM, Eliyahu7 wrote:
Bs"d

Was JC the messiah?

NOOOO!!!!!

For the finer details look here: http://MountZion.notlong.com...

Jesus Christ is the Messiah. Jesus ain't going to fulfill any prophecy with the fake Jews. He is only dealing with the real Jews, just as God is only dealing with the real Jews, along with the entire nation of Israel.

Maybe he just ain't done fulfilling prophesy. Jews have so little hope now, they even consider prophesy figurative now...in their new found critiques.

Look, God is not dealing with "white" people and HE certainly would not only be dealing with one of the tribes of Israel, the Jews. HE is dealing with the entire nation of Israel. When the Israelites went into slavery, did God only send the Jews or Judahites, into slavery?

Which thread we on, sir? I thought it was Eliyahu's JC not God thread. You confused or what?

Maybe you are confused because if God is dealing with the Israelites only that means the Christ is also dealing with the Israelites only. Christ only came for the lost sheep of the house of Israel (Matthew 15:24), He did not come for the whole world. You confused or what?

How did white people get in the mix?

Because "white" people are the ones claiming to be the tribe of Judah over in Israel today.
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1/26/2016 5:13:52 PM
Posted: 10 months ago
At 1/26/2016 5:10:33 PM, TheWORDisLIFE wrote:
At 1/26/2016 4:41:07 PM, nothead wrote:
At 1/26/2016 4:35:53 PM, TheWORDisLIFE wrote:
At 1/26/2016 4:33:16 PM, nothead wrote:
At 1/26/2016 4:32:01 PM, TheWORDisLIFE wrote:
At 1/26/2016 4:27:35 PM, nothead wrote:
At 1/26/2016 4:19:31 PM, TheWORDisLIFE wrote:
At 1/25/2016 6:21:30 AM, Eliyahu7 wrote:
Bs"d

Was JC the messiah?

NOOOO!!!!!

For the finer details look here: http://MountZion.notlong.com...

Jesus Christ is the Messiah. Jesus ain't going to fulfill any prophecy with the fake Jews. He is only dealing with the real Jews, just as God is only dealing with the real Jews, along with the entire nation of Israel.

Maybe he just ain't done fulfilling prophesy. Jews have so little hope now, they even consider prophesy figurative now...in their new found critiques.

Look, God is not dealing with "white" people and HE certainly would not only be dealing with one of the tribes of Israel, the Jews. HE is dealing with the entire nation of Israel. When the Israelites went into slavery, did God only send the Jews or Judahites, into slavery?

Which thread we on, sir? I thought it was Eliyahu's JC not God thread. You confused or what?

Maybe you are confused because if God is dealing with the Israelites only that means the Christ is also dealing with the Israelites only. Christ only came for the lost sheep of the house of Israel (Matthew 15:24), He did not come for the whole world. You confused or what?

How did white people get in the mix?

Because "white" people are the ones claiming to be the tribe of Judah over in Israel today.

Ethiopians are considered a tribe of Israel, sir. They not exactly white, although maybe not as black as Idi Amin. Was.
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1/26/2016 5:22:57 PM
Posted: 10 months ago
At 1/26/2016 11:57:51 AM, Eliyahu7 wrote:
At 1/26/2016 8:42:04 AM, Gentorev wrote:
Jesus was speaking to his disciples at the time of that prediction and all three synoptic gospels place this promise immediately before the Transfiguration add to this the fact that "kingdom" can refer to royal splendour, and those of his disciples who would see the royal splendour of the Son of Man were (Peter, James, and John) who went with Jesus up the mountain and saw Elijah in all His glory.

Bs"d

In Matthew 16:27-28 Jesus says: "For the son of man shall come in the glory of his father with his angels; and then he shall reward every man according to his works. Verily I say unto you, there be some standing here which shall not taste of death till they see the son of man coming in his kingdom." See also Mark 9:1

Did anybody see him coming in his kingdom? Is every man already rewarded according to his works?

He ain't come yet. Obviously.
If not, he was a false prophet.

So you say. Do you actually hope for Messiah right here and now, sir?
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1/26/2016 5:38:28 PM
Posted: 10 months ago
At 1/25/2016 6:21:30 AM, Eliyahu7 wrote:
Bs"d

Was JC the messiah?

NOOOO!!!!!

For the finer details look here: http://MountZion.notlong.com...

Jesus is who the bible says he is the alpha and the omega...