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Eliyahu7
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1/26/2016 1:21:25 PM
Posted: 10 months ago
Bs"d

Was/is JC God?

NOOOO!!!!!!!

There is only one God who is one, and that is Y-H-W-H. Besides Him there is no god.

For the finer details look here: https://sites.google.com...
Please be advised that everywhere in your translation of your OT when it is written "the LORD" with all capitals, then in the original Hebrew it says the four lettered name of God: Y-H-W-H. That name appears almost 7000 times in the Hebrew Bible.
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1/26/2016 1:29:55 PM
Posted: 10 months ago
At 1/26/2016 1:21:25 PM, Eliyahu7 wrote:
Bs"d

Was/is JC God?

NOOOO!!!!!!!

There is only one God who is one, and that is Y-H-W-H. Besides Him there is no god.

For the finer details look here: https://sites.google.com...
Which one?
The one the historians agree existed or the magical one in the bible?
Religion is just mind control. George Carlin
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1/26/2016 1:31:40 PM
Posted: 10 months ago
At 1/26/2016 1:29:55 PM, bulproof wrote:
At 1/26/2016 1:21:25 PM, Eliyahu7 wrote:
Bs"d

Was/is JC God?

NOOOO!!!!!!!

There is only one God who is one, and that is Y-H-W-H. Besides Him there is no god.

For the finer details look here: https://sites.google.com...
Which one?
The one the historians agree existed or the magical one in the bible?

Bs"d

Pick which ever one you want.
Please be advised that everywhere in your translation of your OT when it is written "the LORD" with all capitals, then in the original Hebrew it says the four lettered name of God: Y-H-W-H. That name appears almost 7000 times in the Hebrew Bible.
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1/26/2016 1:42:19 PM
Posted: 10 months ago
At 1/26/2016 1:21:25 PM, Eliyahu7 wrote:
Bs"d

Was/is JC God?

NOOOO!!!!!!!

There is only one God who is one, and that is Y-H-W-H. Besides Him there is no god.

For the finer details look here: https://sites.google.com...

Jesus Christ is the Word of God made flesh in the Presence of God. Who or what else would the Messiah be? Isn"t the Messiah supposed to be the Lord dwelling with the Israelites? Look at creation, all of what is created is aware of the Creator and Judge"s will and Presence via His Word.

I mean, you are referring to YHWH Elohim, correct? hence in the KJV the LORD God. and all things that are made are made by His Word correct? Therefore His Word is LORD over all things made and on His Word do all things rest or remain. isn't it in the OT that His Word goes out and returns to Him, fulfilled?
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1/26/2016 1:45:20 PM
Posted: 10 months ago
At 1/26/2016 1:21:25 PM, Eliyahu7 wrote:
Bs"d

Was/is JC God?

NOOOO!!!!!!!

There is only one God who is one, and that is Y-H-W-H. Besides Him there is no god.

For the finer details look here: https://sites.google.com...

I bet no god exists, they are all human creations!
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1/26/2016 1:55:13 PM
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At 1/26/2016 1:31:40 PM, Eliyahu7 wrote:
At 1/26/2016 1:29:55 PM, bulproof wrote:
At 1/26/2016 1:21:25 PM, Eliyahu7 wrote:
Bs"d

Was/is JC God?

NOOOO!!!!!!!

There is only one God who is one, and that is Y-H-W-H. Besides Him there is no god.

For the finer details look here: https://sites.google.com...
Which one?
The one the historians agree existed or the magical one in the bible?

Bs"d

Pick which ever one you want.

It's your story, you clarify it.
Religion is just mind control. George Carlin
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1/26/2016 4:04:01 PM
Posted: 10 months ago
At 1/26/2016 1:21:25 PM, Eliyahu7 wrote:
Bs"d

Was/is JC God?

NOOOO!!!!!!!

There is only one God who is one, and that is Y-H-W-H. Besides Him there is no god.

For the finer details look here: https://sites.google.com...

So then 99% Christians got it wrong. Why you surprised? Ten righteous men were not found in Sodom either.
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1/26/2016 4:07:04 PM
Posted: 10 months ago
At 1/26/2016 1:21:25 PM, Eliyahu7 wrote:
Bs"d

Was/is JC God?

NOOOO!!!!!!!

There is only one God who is one, and that is Y-H-W-H. Besides Him there is no god.

For the finer details look here: https://sites.google.com...

No...JC is not God but never said he was or is...but for you he sits or stands at the Right Hand of his Father and God, mine and yours.
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1/26/2016 7:55:45 PM
Posted: 10 months ago
At 1/26/2016 1:45:20 PM, JJ50 wrote:
At 1/26/2016 1:21:25 PM, Eliyahu7 wrote:
Bs"d

Was/is JC God?

NOOOO!!!!!!!

There is only one God who is one, and that is Y-H-W-H. Besides Him there is no god.

For the finer details look here: https://sites.google.com...

I bet no god exists, they are all human creations!

This last sentence is a human creation. So then maybe it's wrong. Never thought of that did you?
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1/26/2016 7:59:56 PM
Posted: 10 months ago
At 1/26/2016 4:04:01 PM, nothead wrote:
At 1/26/2016 1:21:25 PM, Eliyahu7 wrote:
Bs"d

Was/is JC God?

NOOOO!!!!!!!

There is only one God who is one, and that is Y-H-W-H. Besides Him there is no god.

For the finer details look here: https://sites.google.com...

So then 99% Christians got it wrong. Why you surprised? Ten righteous men were not found in Sodom either.
Yeah I don't know whether you know this but the dude Lot in that fable wasn't righteous either, he f*cked his daughters as soon as he could 'cause he couldn't get 'em gang raped apparently.
Religion is just mind control. George Carlin
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1/26/2016 8:07:35 PM
Posted: 10 months ago
At 1/26/2016 1:45:20 PM, JJ50 wrote:
At 1/26/2016 1:21:25 PM, Eliyahu7 wrote:
Bs"d

Was/is JC God?

NOOOO!!!!!!!

There is only one God who is one, and that is Y-H-W-H. Besides Him there is no god.

For the finer details look here: https://sites.google.com...

I bet no god exists, they are all human creations!

you are betting, with your eternity...
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1/26/2016 8:10:47 PM
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At 1/26/2016 7:55:45 PM, nothead wrote:
At 1/26/2016 1:45:20 PM, JJ50 wrote:
At 1/26/2016 1:21:25 PM, Eliyahu7 wrote:
Bs"d

Was/is JC God?

NOOOO!!!!!!!

There is only one God who is one, and that is Y-H-W-H. Besides Him there is no god.

For the finer details look here: https://sites.google.com...

I bet no god exists, they are all human creations!

This last sentence is a human creation. So then maybe it's wrong. Never thought of that did you?
Just like gods, never thought of that did ya.
Religion is just mind control. George Carlin
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1/28/2016 9:03:13 AM
Posted: 10 months ago
At 1/26/2016 7:59:56 PM, bulproof wrote:
At 1/26/2016 4:04:01 PM, nothead wrote:
At 1/26/2016 1:21:25 PM, Eliyahu7 wrote:
Bs"d

Was/is JC God?

NOOOO!!!!!!!

There is only one God who is one, and that is Y-H-W-H. Besides Him there is no god.

For the finer details look here: https://sites.google.com...

So then 99% Christians got it wrong. Why you surprised? Ten righteous men were not found in Sodom either.
Yeah I don't know whether you know this but the dude Lot in that fable wasn't righteous either, he f*cked his daughters as soon as he could 'cause he couldn't get 'em gang raped apparently.

It was a cautionary tale, plus, God didn't save lot because he was righteous, he saved lot because Abraham was righteous, and Abraham vouched for lot.
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1/28/2016 12:16:28 PM
Posted: 10 months ago
At 1/26/2016 1:21:25 PM, Eliyahu7 wrote:
Bs"d

Was/is JC God?

NOOOO!!!!!!!

There is only one God who is one, and that is Y-H-W-H. Besides Him there is no god.

For the finer details look here: https://sites.google.com...

Again I don't need to go to that link. Scripture, including the teachings of Christ and the Apostles, is more than enough for me to agree with you on this point

Correct.

Jehovah, in the English translation of his name, is the One True God.

Jesus was Jehovah's only begotten son incarnate, and whilst like all spirit beings he is called a god in scripture, describing his form and substance, he never was and never could be God.

The false idea of Christ being God was a comparatively recent corruption of the truth introduced into the church in the late 4th century as a part of the corrupted teachings introduced with Satan's encouragement after the death of the last of the Apostles (John) who were the guardians of truth.

It led to the subsequent corruption of God's word by translators which give us the dishonest translation we are left with today which, amongst which the worst blasphemy has been the removal of God's name and it's replacement with LORD.

That alteration in particular was made to cause confusion between the roles, and persons, of Jehovah and his son. This also made it possible to corrupt scripture in other ways to support the unsupportable, effectively polytheistic, Trinity teaching.

Whilst,as scripture describes there are many god's, some of which are even humans, some of which are true (faithful to Jehovah) there is, and always will be only one True God.

For instance scripture describes all of the angels as gods.
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1/28/2016 6:07:44 PM
Posted: 10 months ago
At 1/26/2016 1:45:20 PM, JJ50 wrote:
At 1/26/2016 1:21:25 PM, Eliyahu7 wrote:
Bs"d

Was/is JC God?

NOOOO!!!!!!!

There is only one God who is one, and that is Y-H-W-H. Besides Him there is no god.

For the finer details look here: https://sites.google.com...

I bet no god exists, they are all human creations!

Bs"d

Can you proof that?
Please be advised that everywhere in your translation of your OT when it is written "the LORD" with all capitals, then in the original Hebrew it says the four lettered name of God: Y-H-W-H. That name appears almost 7000 times in the Hebrew Bible.
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1/28/2016 6:09:30 PM
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At 1/26/2016 4:07:04 PM, nothead wrote:
At 1/26/2016 1:21:25 PM, Eliyahu7 wrote:
Bs"d

Was/is JC God?

NOOOO!!!!!!!

There is only one God who is one, and that is Y-H-W-H. Besides Him there is no god.

For the finer details look here: https://sites.google.com...

No...JC is not God but never said he was or is...but for you he sits or stands at the Right Hand of his Father and God, mine and yours.

Bs"d

Should I be impressed by wild claims that are impossible to verify?
Please be advised that everywhere in your translation of your OT when it is written "the LORD" with all capitals, then in the original Hebrew it says the four lettered name of God: Y-H-W-H. That name appears almost 7000 times in the Hebrew Bible.
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1/28/2016 7:57:48 PM
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At 1/28/2016 12:16:28 PM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
At 1/26/2016 1:21:25 PM, Eliyahu7 wrote:
Bs"d

Was/is JC God?

NOOOO!!!!!!!

There is only one God who is one, and that is Y-H-W-H. Besides Him there is no god.

For the finer details look here: https://sites.google.com...

Again I don't need to go to that link. Scripture, including the teachings of Christ and the Apostles, is more than enough for me to agree with you on this point

Correct.

Jehovah, in the English translation of his name, is the One True God.

Jesus was Jehovah's only begotten son incarnate, and whilst like all spirit beings he is called a god in scripture, describing his form and substance, he never was and never could be God.
there you go again with your scripture twinsting and jw two tongue, the jw's say jesus is michael, michael was a craeted being not the only begotten son, you cannot have it both ways, though the jw's think they can...
The false idea of Christ being God was a comparatively recent corruption of the truth introduced into the church in the late 4th century as a part of the corrupted teachings introduced with Satan's encouragement after the death of the last of the Apostles (John) who were the guardians of truth.
not at all it says quite clearly who is the alpha and the omega, it is used for both Jesus and God....
It led to the subsequent corruption of God's word by translators which give us the dishonest translation we are left with today which, amongst which the worst blasphemy has been the removal of God's name and it's replacement with LORD.
no the only ones that corrupt the word of God is the jw's by claiming michael the angel was the word of God...
That alteration in particular was made to cause confusion between the roles, and persons, of Jehovah and his son. This also made it possible to corrupt scripture in other ways to support the unsupportable, effectively polytheistic, Trinity teaching.
and saying jesus was just a body that the angle michael used does not confuse their roles, so jw's being saved by an angel who they think is Christ is clearly set in scripture, I think not...
Whilst,as scripture describes there are many god's, some of which are even humans, some of which are true (faithful to Jehovah) there is, and always will be only one True God.
gods is synonymous with judges or things that may have authority or some kind of hold or control of you but the bible tells us none were formed before or after God, so it is not referring to an actual God....
For instance scripture describes all of the angels as gods.
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1/28/2016 8:33:11 PM
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At 1/26/2016 7:59:56 PM, bulproof wrote:
At 1/26/2016 4:04:01 PM, nothead wrote:
At 1/26/2016 1:21:25 PM, Eliyahu7 wrote:
Bs"d

Was/is JC God?

NOOOO!!!!!!!

There is only one God who is one, and that is Y-H-W-H. Besides Him there is no god.

For the finer details look here: https://sites.google.com...

So then 99% Christians got it wrong. Why you surprised? Ten righteous men were not found in Sodom either.
Yeah I don't know whether you know this but the dude Lot in that fable wasn't righteous either, he f*cked his daughters as soon as he could 'cause he couldn't get 'em gang raped apparently.

Did the Bible say he was righteous? Wayell, then my not-so humble mayun...
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1/28/2016 8:35:34 PM
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At 1/28/2016 6:09:30 PM, Eliyahu wrote:
At 1/26/2016 4:07:04 PM, nothead wrote:
At 1/26/2016 1:21:25 PM, Eliyahu7 wrote:
Bs"d

Was/is JC God?

NOOOO!!!!!!!

There is only one God who is one, and that is Y-H-W-H. Besides Him there is no god.

For the finer details look here: https://sites.google.com...

No...JC is not God but never said he was or is...but for you he sits or stands at the Right Hand of his Father and God, mine and yours.

Bs"d

Should I be impressed by wild claims that are impossible to verify?

Empirical proof is any proof at all for the things of faith? How would you prove the Torah is unbroken proof of anything, sir? Moses said he heard something...it was not then or now proven scientifically...
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1/28/2016 9:43:57 PM
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At 1/28/2016 8:33:11 PM, nothead wrote:
At 1/26/2016 7:59:56 PM, bulproof wrote:
At 1/26/2016 4:04:01 PM, nothead wrote:
At 1/26/2016 1:21:25 PM, Eliyahu7 wrote:
Bs"d

Was/is JC God?

NOOOO!!!!!!!

There is only one God who is one, and that is Y-H-W-H. Besides Him there is no god.

For the finer details look here: https://sites.google.com...

So then 99% Christians got it wrong. Why you surprised? Ten righteous men were not found in Sodom either.
Yeah I don't know whether you know this but the dude Lot in that fable wasn't righteous either, he f*cked his daughters as soon as he could 'cause he couldn't get 'em gang raped apparently.

I suggest you read the account again, properly this time.

In fact it was his daughters who got him drunk and raped him because they were desperate to have children and could see no other way of getting them.

In fact Lt is called righteous in scripture so not only have you got the account completely back to front, you are wrong abut that also.

You really should make sure you know what you are talking about before you post, then you may not make such a fool of yourself next time.

However you are right that, out of the hosts responsibility for the safety of his guests Lot did offer them to the crowd instead of the Angels. That was neither more nor less than he should have done. Fortunately for both Lot and his daughters the Angels negated the need for it.


Did the Bible say he was righteous? Wayell, then my not-so humble mayun...

Yup, it did and rightly so. That is why the Angels were sent to rescue him and his family.
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1/28/2016 9:45:44 PM
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At 1/28/2016 8:35:34 PM, nothead wrote:
At 1/28/2016 6:09:30 PM, Eliyahu wrote:
At 1/26/2016 4:07:04 PM, nothead wrote:
At 1/26/2016 1:21:25 PM, Eliyahu7 wrote:
Bs"d

Was/is JC God?

NOOOO!!!!!!!

There is only one God who is one, and that is Y-H-W-H. Besides Him there is no god.

For the finer details look here: https://sites.google.com...

No...JC is not God but never said he was or is...but for you he sits or stands at the Right Hand of his Father and God, mine and yours.

Bs"d

Should I be impressed by wild claims that are impossible to verify?

Empirical proof is any proof at all for the things of faith? How would you prove the Torah is unbroken proof of anything, sir? Moses said he heard something...it was not then or now proven scientifically...

Genesis 1 has been proved accurate scientifically, despite the obvious mistranslation of one verse. It gives very few details but what it does are accurate.
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1/28/2016 10:04:53 PM
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At 1/26/2016 1:21:25 PM, Eliyahu7 wrote:
Bs"d

Was/is JC God?

NOOOO!!!!!!!

There is only one God who is one, and that is Y-H-W-H. Besides Him there is no god.

For the finer details look here: https://sites.google.com...

how about none of them are anything
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1/29/2016 6:49:52 AM
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At 1/28/2016 8:35:34 PM, nothead wrote:

Empirical proof is any proof at all for the things of faith? How would you prove the Torah is unbroken proof of anything, sir? Moses said he heard something...it was not then or now proven scientifically...

Bs"d

Just having faith is very silly. Because then why not have faith in Mohammed, David Koresh, Joseph Smith, etc etc.

You have to use your brains and common sense. That's why God gave you your brains.

Here you can learn more about the unbroken Jewish tradition going back all the way to Sinai: https://www.youtube.com...
Please be advised that everywhere in your translation of your OT when it is written "the LORD" with all capitals, then in the original Hebrew it says the four lettered name of God: Y-H-W-H. That name appears almost 7000 times in the Hebrew Bible.
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1/29/2016 10:02:33 AM
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At 1/26/2016 1:42:19 PM, DPMartin wrote:

I mean, you are referring to YHWH Elohim, correct?

Bs"d

Correct.

hence in the KJV the LORD God.

Only in the OT.

and all things that are made are made by His Word correct?

That is open for debate. And the word "word" is not written with a capital W.

Therefore His Word is LORD over all things made and on His Word do all things rest or remain. i

??????????

You logic is wanting.

Keep in mind that LORD means Y-H-W-H. You say therefore: "Therefore His Word is Y-H-W-H over all things made and on His Word do all things rest or remain. "

That is of course totally wrong.

Even if everything was made through His word, it doesn't mean that His word is Him.

For instance: "All things are made by his slave". Does that make his slave himself?

God is God. The word of God is not God, but only His word.
Please be advised that everywhere in your translation of your OT when it is written "the LORD" with all capitals, then in the original Hebrew it says the four lettered name of God: Y-H-W-H. That name appears almost 7000 times in the Hebrew Bible.
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1/29/2016 10:41:35 AM
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Was/is JC God???

No he was the earthly IMAGE of the Lord our saviour who was lifted up upon a pole, in the same manner that Moses lifted up the bronze IMAGE , of the serpent in the wilderness in order that all those who were dying from the venom of the serpent which was coursing through their veins, only had to turn their eyes to the image that had been lifted up to be saved.

When in later days, the people began to worship the image of the serpent that Moses had lifted up, it was then destroyed. Because there are those who today, worship the earthly IMAGE of the SON OF MAN who was lifted up, that belief also must now be destroyed.
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1/29/2016 12:49:48 PM
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At 1/26/2016 1:42:19 PM, DPMartin wrote:
At 1/26/2016 1:21:25 PM, Eliyahu7 wrote:
Bs"d

Was/is JC God?

NOOOO!!!!!!!

There is only one God who is one, and that is Y-H-W-H. Besides Him there is no god.

For the finer details look here: https://sites.google.com...

Jesus Christ is the Word of God made flesh in the Presence of God. Who or what else would the Messiah be? Isn"t the Messiah supposed to be the Lord dwelling with the Israelites? Look at creation, all of what is created is aware of the Creator and Judge"s will and Presence via His Word.

I mean, you are referring to YHWH Elohim, correct? hence in the KJV the LORD God. and all things that are made are made by His Word correct? Therefore His Word is LORD over all things made and on His Word do all things rest or remain. isn't it in the OT that His Word goes out and returns to Him, fulfilled?

And in that paragraph you reveal in three letters one of the major causes of your confusion.

The KJV is demonstrably not an honest translation.

Why.

Because the holy name of God has been deliberately removed and changed to LORD.

The very least an honest translation would do, wherever the Tetragrammaton appears, would be to copy the transliteration of those Hebrew Characters into it's text.

However, as part of the attempt to confuse people, and thus support the scripturally unsupportable trinity teaching, it was changed to LORD.

It is equally easy to demonstrate that the KJV contains a sentence not found in any other translation or any manuscript into 1 John 5:6-8, with the same corrupting purpose in mind.

Not only that but it is also easy to demonstrate the deliberate alteration of John 1:1 with the same purpose in mind.

There are other corrupted passages, which are revealed when a consideration of the overall harmony of scripture is given room in the readers mind. Some are deliberate, some possibly not, but all are revealed to the Bible student, whose only bias is truth.
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1/29/2016 1:58:31 PM
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Bs"d

It's a simple fact that the KJV is the most corrupted translation there is.

That's why a lot of people are hanging on to it, if you read the Bible in a better translation, Christianity falls apart.
Please be advised that everywhere in your translation of your OT when it is written "the LORD" with all capitals, then in the original Hebrew it says the four lettered name of God: Y-H-W-H. That name appears almost 7000 times in the Hebrew Bible.
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1/29/2016 9:36:07 PM
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At 1/29/2016 1:58:31 PM, Eliyahu wrote:
Bs"d

It's a simple fact that the KJV is the most corrupted translation there is.

That's why a lot of people are hanging on to it, if you read the Bible in a better translation, Christianity falls apart.

False Christianity does.

True Christianity is strengthened.
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1/31/2016 12:14:21 PM
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At 1/29/2016 9:36:07 PM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
At 1/29/2016 1:58:31 PM, Eliyahu wrote:
Bs"d

It's a simple fact that the KJV is the most corrupted translation there is.

That's why a lot of people are hanging on to it, if you read the Bible in a better translation, Christianity falls apart.

False Christianity does.

True Christianity is strengthened.

Bs"d

You've got to be totally blinded not to see that JC didn't fulfil the messianic prophecies, and that he was a false god and a false prophet.

"O Y-H-W-H, my strength and my fortress,
My refuge in the day of affliction,
The Gentiles shall come to You
From the ends of the earth and say,
"Surely our fathers have inherited lies,
Worthlessness and unprofitable things."

Will a man make gods for himself,
Which are not gods?
"Therefore behold, I will this once cause them to know,
I will cause them to know
My hand and My might;
And they shall know that My name is Y-H-W-H."
Jeremiah 16:19-21

"Now therefore, fear Y-H-W-H, serve Him in sincerity and in truth, and put away the gods which your fathers served on the other side of the River and in Egypt. Serve the Y-H-W-H 15 And if it seems evil to you to serve Y-H-W-H, choose for yourselves this day whom you will serve, whether the gods which your fathers served that were on the other side of the River, or the gods of the Amorites, in whose land you dwell. But as for me and my house, we will serve Y-H-W-H."

Joshua 24
Please be advised that everywhere in your translation of your OT when it is written "the LORD" with all capitals, then in the original Hebrew it says the four lettered name of God: Y-H-W-H. That name appears almost 7000 times in the Hebrew Bible.