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Is Isaiah 53 about the messiah or ISRAEL?

Eliyahu
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1/28/2016 6:24:49 PM
Posted: 10 months ago
Bs"d

Does Isaiah 53 speak about the messiah or about ISRAEL?

That's a no-brainer. It of course speaks about ISRAEL.

There is no messiah to be found in all of Isaiah 53.

That is just another corruption of the Christians.

For the finer details look here: http://Isaiah53.notlong.com...
Please be advised that everywhere in your translation of your OT when it is written "the LORD" with all capitals, then in the original Hebrew it says the four lettered name of God: Y-H-W-H. That name appears almost 7000 times in the Hebrew Bible.
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1/28/2016 6:37:18 PM
Posted: 10 months ago
At 1/28/2016 6:24:49 PM, Eliyahu wrote:
Bs"d

Does Isaiah 53 speak about the messiah or about ISRAEL?

That's a no-brainer. It of course speaks about ISRAEL.

There is no messiah to be found in all of Isaiah 53.

That is just another corruption of the Christians.

For the finer details look here: http://Isaiah53.notlong.com...

Isaiah 53:1 Who hath believed our report? and to whom is the arm of the LORD revealed?
Isaiah 53:2 For he shall grow up before him as a tender plant, and as a root out of a dry ground: he hath no form nor comeliness; and when we shall see him, there is no beauty that we should desire him.
Isaiah 53:3 He is despised and rejected of men; a man of sorrows, and acquainted with grief: and we hid as it were our faces from him; he was despised, and we esteemed him not.

You are fulfilling that right now by the way, you don't believe the report, and you despise the one who came to set you free.

Isaiah 53:4 Surely he hath borne our griefs, and carried our sorrows: yet we did esteem him stricken, smitten of God, and afflicted.

Isaiah 53:5 But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes we are healed.

This is ALL about Yeshua Messiah.

Open your eyes!
Eliyahu
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1/29/2016 6:52:38 AM
Posted: 10 months ago
At 1/28/2016 6:37:18 PM, be_diligent wrote:
At 1/28/2016 6:24:49 PM, Eliyahu wrote:
Bs"d

Does Isaiah 53 speak about the messiah or about ISRAEL?

That's a no-brainer. It of course speaks about ISRAEL.

There is no messiah to be found in all of Isaiah 53.

That is just another corruption of the Christians.

For the finer details look here: http://Isaiah53.notlong.com...

Isaiah 53:1 Who hath believed our report? and to whom is the arm of the LORD revealed?
Isaiah 53:2 For he shall grow up before him as a tender plant, and as a root out of a dry ground: he hath no form nor comeliness; and when we shall see him, there is no beauty that we should desire him.
Isaiah 53:3 He is despised and rejected of men; a man of sorrows, and acquainted with grief: and we hid as it were our faces from him; he was despised, and we esteemed him not.

You are fulfilling that right now by the way, you don't believe the report, and you despise the one who came to set you free.

Isaiah 53:4 Surely he hath borne our griefs, and carried our sorrows: yet we did esteem him stricken, smitten of God, and afflicted.

Isaiah 53:5 But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes we are healed.

This is ALL about Yeshua Messiah.

Bs"d

Can you give any proof from Isaiah, or from the rest of the Tanach, that Isaiah 53 speaks about the messiah?
Please be advised that everywhere in your translation of your OT when it is written "the LORD" with all capitals, then in the original Hebrew it says the four lettered name of God: Y-H-W-H. That name appears almost 7000 times in the Hebrew Bible.
Eliyahu
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1/31/2016 12:16:50 PM
Posted: 10 months ago
At 1/29/2016 6:52:38 AM, Eliyahu wrote:

Can you give any proof from Isaiah, or from the rest of the Tanach, that Isaiah 53 speaks about the messiah?

Bs"d

So you can't huh?

Well, no surprise there. Nobody can.

And since the proof for Isaiah 53 speaking about Israel is abundant, the case is closed.

Isaiah 53 has NOTHING to do with the messiah, but speaks about ISRAEL.

HalleluJah!!
Please be advised that everywhere in your translation of your OT when it is written "the LORD" with all capitals, then in the original Hebrew it says the four lettered name of God: Y-H-W-H. That name appears almost 7000 times in the Hebrew Bible.