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1/29/2016 4:49:16 PM
Posted: 10 months ago
1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.

..the "big bang" ..

2And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.

a dust cloud around the sun >a heap of rock clumped together >blasted by debris >nearly destroyed by formation of the moon > "chaotic " planet surface ..
water was key to early earth formation ...

3 And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.
4 And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness.
5 And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.

..early earth atmosphere : gas clouds , volcanic fallout ,debris clouds , dust storms ...
from the surface , at many points on early earth the sun was likely only a bright spot in the cloud cover , much like winter .

6 And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters.
7 And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so.
8 And God called the firmament Heaven. And the evening and the morning were the second day.
9 And God said, Let the waters under the heaven be gathered together unto one place, and let the dry land appear: and it was so.
10 And God called the dry land Earth; and the gathering together of the waters called he Seas: and God saw that it was good.

due to the earths inherent volcanic activities/tectonic plates our "dry lands " shifts over time creating /destroying rivers , lakes , seas , and oceans ...

11 And God said, Let the earth bring forth grass, the herb yielding seed, and the fruit tree yielding fruit after his kind, whose seed is in itself, upon the earth: and it was so.
12 And the earth brought forth grass, and herb yielding seed after his kind, and the tree yielding fruit, whose seed was in itself, after his kind: and God saw that it was good.
13 And the evening and the morning were the third day.

algae mats gave rise to early plants and may have been key in changing the composition of early earth atmosphere ..

14 And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years:
15 And let them be for lights in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth: and it was so.
16 And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also.
17 And God set them in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth,
18 And to rule over the day and over the night, and to divide the light from the darkness: and God saw that it was good.
19 And the evening and the morning were the fourth day.

our current atmosphere was greatly changed with the first plants , its likely we get our current sunny blue skies and clear crisp nights are a result of the first plants

20 And God said, Let the waters bring forth abundantly the moving creature that hath life, and fowl that may fly above the earth in the open firmament of heaven.

abiogenesis -deep sea thermal vents : it is proposed that life began on earth at deep sea vents , these vents pump out super heated water and sediments from inside the earth ..water and " star dust /dust of the earth " from the time of earths formation .
the chemical/sediment makeup of the outflow fluctuates , possibly leading to variation of "life" to begin with .. as those "lives" floated on currents , they are dispersed to different "ranges" diversity increased .

21 And God created great whales, and every living creature that moveth, which the waters brought forth abundantly, after their kind, and every winged fowl after his kind: and God saw that it was good.
22 And God blessed them, saying, Be fruitful, and multiply, and fill the waters in the seas, and let fowl multiply in the earth.
23 And the evening and the morning were the fifth day.

diversity so great that whales returned to aquatic life after living on land ..
therapods survived extinction to give rise to modern birds and the wonder of flight .
so much diversity that even a small percentage could repopulate the planet after a major extinction event ...

24 And God said, Let the earth bring forth the living creature after his kind, cattle, and creeping thing, and beast of the earth after his kind: and it was so.
25 And God made the beast of the earth after his kind, and cattle after their kind, and every thing that creepeth upon the earth after his kind: and God saw that it was good.

KINDS FROM A KIND : divergence and speciation is what gives us the vast numbers of flora and fauna alive today .. as bloodline multiply and go forth , they specialize and isolate ... thus from one lineage branches off many .. what an awesome God .

after cattle and birds , comes the rise of man , a living soul , a spirit in the image of God . I will stop there , im sure the image of God and the image of flesh deserve their own page .

this is how my mind sees Genesis /creation/formation .
I am a Pentecostal , and I agree with theistic evolution .
one love , God bless .
DanneJeRusse
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1/29/2016 5:26:22 PM
Posted: 10 months ago
At 1/29/2016 4:49:16 PM, chucklehead wrote:
1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.

..the "big bang" ..

2And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.

a dust cloud around the sun >a heap of rock clumped together >blasted by debris >nearly destroyed by formation of the moon > "chaotic " planet surface ..
water was key to early earth formation ...

3 And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.
4 And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness.
5 And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.

..early earth atmosphere : gas clouds , volcanic fallout ,debris clouds , dust storms ...
from the surface , at many points on early earth the sun was likely only a bright spot in the cloud cover , much like winter .

6 And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters.
7 And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so.
8 And God called the firmament Heaven. And the evening and the morning were the second day.
9 And God said, Let the waters under the heaven be gathered together unto one place, and let the dry land appear: and it was so.
10 And God called the dry land Earth; and the gathering together of the waters called he Seas: and God saw that it was good.

due to the earths inherent volcanic activities/tectonic plates our "dry lands " shifts over time creating /destroying rivers , lakes , seas , and oceans ...

11 And God said, Let the earth bring forth grass, the herb yielding seed, and the fruit tree yielding fruit after his kind, whose seed is in itself, upon the earth: and it was so.
12 And the earth brought forth grass, and herb yielding seed after his kind, and the tree yielding fruit, whose seed was in itself, after his kind: and God saw that it was good.
13 And the evening and the morning were the third day.

algae mats gave rise to early plants and may have been key in changing the composition of early earth atmosphere ..

14 And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years:
15 And let them be for lights in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth: and it was so.
16 And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also.
17 And God set them in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth,
18 And to rule over the day and over the night, and to divide the light from the darkness: and God saw that it was good.
19 And the evening and the morning were the fourth day.

our current atmosphere was greatly changed with the first plants , its likely we get our current sunny blue skies and clear crisp nights are a result of the first plants

20 And God said, Let the waters bring forth abundantly the moving creature that hath life, and fowl that may fly above the earth in the open firmament of heaven.

abiogenesis -deep sea thermal vents : it is proposed that life began on earth at deep sea vents , these vents pump out super heated water and sediments from inside the earth ..water and " star dust /dust of the earth " from the time of earths formation .
the chemical/sediment makeup of the outflow fluctuates , possibly leading to variation of "life" to begin with .. as those "lives" floated on currents , they are dispersed to different "ranges" diversity increased .

So then, why doesn't the Bible simply explain the thermal vents instead of some vague description of bringing forth from the waters? That could mean anything and certainly does not describe those vents.


21 And God created great whales

Other versions of the translation are great creatures, great sea creatures, sea monsters, great sea monsters, large sea creatures, magnificent sea creatures, great dragons, great monsters, etc.

, and every living creature that moveth, which the waters brought forth abundantly, after their kind, and every winged fowl after his kind: and God saw that it was good.
22 And God blessed them, saying, Be fruitful, and multiply, and fill the waters in the seas, and let fowl multiply in the earth.
23 And the evening and the morning were the fifth day.

diversity so great that whales returned to aquatic life after living on land ..

So, what happened to the great sea monsters and great dragons?

therapods survived extinction to give rise to modern birds and the wonder of flight .
so much diversity that even a small percentage could repopulate the planet after a major extinction event ...

24 And God said, Let the earth bring forth the living creature after his kind, cattle, and creeping thing, and beast of the earth after his kind: and it was so.
25 And God made the beast of the earth after his kind, and cattle after their kind, and every thing that creepeth upon the earth after his kind: and God saw that it was good.

KINDS FROM A KIND : divergence and speciation is what gives us the vast numbers of flora and fauna alive today .. as bloodline multiply and go forth , they specialize and isolate ... thus from one lineage branches off many .. what an awesome God .

after cattle and birds , comes the rise of man , a living soul , a spirit in the image of God . I will stop there , im sure the image of God and the image of flesh deserve their own page .

this is how my mind sees Genesis /creation/formation .
I am a Pentecostal , and I agree with theistic evolution .
one love , God bless .

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