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brian_eggleston
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10/29/2010 6:28:06 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
So how do you Americans celebrate Halloween? Bigger and brasher than us over here in Britain it seems:

http://www.bbc.co.uk...

I'm surprised that it is such a big deal because this a pagan festival that precedes All Saints Day (hence "All Hallows Eve") and most people in the United States are practicing, if not devout, Christians.
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10/29/2010 7:16:47 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 10/29/2010 6:28:06 AM, brian_eggleston wrote:
So how do you Americans celebrate Halloween? Bigger and brasher than us over here in Britain it seems:

http://www.bbc.co.uk...

I'm surprised that it is such a big deal because this a pagan festival that precedes All Saints Day (hence "All Hallows Eve") and most people in the United States are practicing, if not devout, Christians.

You underestimate Americans' love for partying/celebration.

I mean, we also use Catholicism as an excuse to have a week-long orgy in the South every Spring, too.

In essence, there's nothing religious about it.
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10/29/2010 7:43:24 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
pffft nothing about jesus is negated by free candy. the ritual seems to exemplify the whole "love thy neighbor" thing.

also, its sad, because pretty much everyone in my house is too old to go trick or treating now :(
evidently i only come to ddo to avoid doing homework...
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10/29/2010 8:40:44 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 10/29/2010 6:28:06 AM, brian_eggleston wrote:
So how do you Americans celebrate Halloween? Bigger and brasher than us over here in Britain it seems:

http://www.bbc.co.uk...

I'm surprised that it is such a big deal because this a pagan festival that precedes All Saints Day (hence "All Hallows Eve") and most people in the United States are practicing, if not devout, Christians.

Our culture shows surprisingly little Christian influence these days. Most people claim to be Christian, but it seems to be a cultural title instead of a religious one. If someone acts on their religion, or actually practices it, they are looked on with surprise and a little disdain.

Halloween is no problem for cultural Christians; those that actually believe and practice Christianity tend to avoid it.

(NOTE: The above is merely from my observation. I don't know of a poll, study, or survey that I can link to in support for this; at least, not right away, haven't looked for one yet.)
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10/29/2010 8:43:28 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
Lol last year we were short a halloween bucket so my bro had to carry around an easter one.
Mom loved it cause we were using a "jesus bucket" on a "satanic holiday"
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10/29/2010 8:46:57 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
there can be religiousness added back to it, you have the traditions there to just start practicing again. Such going to church in costume for the Halloween service and taking your mask off at the door as symbolic of removing your veil that god see's through anyway at the door.

I actually think Halloween would be a prime time to start preaching and teaching and singing about the second coming of Christ. you see on the church calender the year kind of follows a cycle of Christ birth through to his death. starting Christmas working its way to Easter. however you have two seasons of ordinary time one of which goes right through Halloween http://www.crivoice.org.... seeing as during communion we all say 'Christ died, Christ is risen, Christ will come again' and the first half of that is covered on the church calender with high importance that the last part should be too. We are not focused on anything in particular in October, why not make that 'kingdom come' season. it would make for a smooth full year cycle that compliments each others season. you move from advent, to Easter, and then to rapture (I guess thats what it would be called.); birth, death/resurrection, his return.
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10/29/2010 8:49:39 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
If the seasons complimented each other and it went smoothly, it would be demonic.
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10/29/2010 8:50:20 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 10/29/2010 8:43:28 AM, lovelife wrote:
Lol last year we were short a halloween bucket so my bro had to carry around an easter one.
Mom loved it cause we were using a "jesus bucket" on a "satanic holiday"

I didn't know that giving food to children was satanic? I'm going down to the children's shelter to give them devil worshipers a piece of my mind! lol

Personally, at my age, I can't go trick or treating (once I have a kid, I'll have an excuse again), so we just party (will have to get some pictures tonight).
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10/29/2010 8:58:11 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
Isn't this C_N's big night? Children coming to his door looking for candy - does it get better than that? Hardly any work involved at all.
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10/29/2010 9:00:17 AM
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Mrauder, I thought there was a feast celebrating the return; I guess I'm wrong. I'm going to have to go look it up now...
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10/29/2010 9:02:17 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 10/29/2010 9:00:17 AM, Chrysippus wrote:
Mrauder, I thought there was a feast celebrating the return; I guess I'm wrong. I'm going to have to go look it up now...

It is, a feast of fun sized candy bars.
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10/29/2010 9:02:43 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 10/29/2010 8:58:11 AM, innomen wrote:
Isn't this C_N's big night? Children coming to his door looking for candy - does it get better than that? Hardly any work involved at all.

lol
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10/29/2010 9:04:02 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 10/29/2010 8:49:39 AM, lovelife wrote:
If the seasons complimented each other and it went smoothly, it would be demonic.

What?!
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10/29/2010 9:04:41 AM
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At 10/29/2010 8:50:20 AM, OreEle wrote:
At 10/29/2010 8:43:28 AM, lovelife wrote:
Lol last year we were short a halloween bucket so my bro had to carry around an easter one.
Mom loved it cause we were using a "jesus bucket" on a "satanic holiday"

I didn't know that giving food to children was satanic? I'm going down to the children's shelter to give them devil worshipers a piece of my mind! lol

Its what she said. She says she's a true christian but loves the satanic holiday. (lol its only satanic because the dead come back......guess who came back from the dead? Is god satanic? :p)

Personally, at my age, I can't go trick or treating (once I have a kid, I'll have an excuse again), so we just party (will have to get some pictures tonight).

Lol I have no idea what I want to do. I don't even have a costume yet. I'm thinking I'll be a witch tho cause everyone calls me a witch. I think I'll go trick or treating with the kids, or I'll stay at home eati-- I mean passing out candy.

Isn't this C_N's big night? Children coming to his door looking for candy - does it get better than that? Hardly any work involved at all.

Lol that is true.
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10/29/2010 9:04:57 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 10/29/2010 8:58:11 AM, innomen wrote:
Isn't this C_N's big night? Children coming to his door looking for candy - does it get better than that? Hardly any work involved at all.

No, that's his usual Sunday night. He always has candy to lure children into his house... What he should be excited about is the costumes... I mean, *ahem* role-play?
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10/29/2010 9:05:07 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 10/29/2010 6:28:06 AM, brian_eggleston wrote:
So how do you Americans celebrate Halloween? Bigger and brasher than us over here in Britain it seems:

I'm at a crazy party university, and honestly, I'm gonna be home this weekend so as to avoid the drunkards and sluts and sexual diseases that are walking around. I also am judging a debate tournament; I'm going to be more productive with my time personally. Everyone else (that I know) usually just parties till their throat burns.
: At 4/15/2011 5:29:37 PM, CosmicAlfonzo wrote:
: Pascal's wager is for poosies.
:
: I mean that sincerly, because it's basically an argument from poooosie.
:
: I'm pretty sure that's like a fallacy.. Argument ad Pussium or something like that.
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10/29/2010 9:05:52 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 10/29/2010 9:04:02 AM, Ren wrote:
At 10/29/2010 8:49:39 AM, lovelife wrote:
If the seasons complimented each other and it went smoothly, it would be demonic.

What?!

Its a pagan concept, so it is demonic. Easter and Christmas of course are exempt from becoming demonic by these means.
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10/29/2010 9:07:08 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 10/29/2010 9:00:17 AM, Chrysippus wrote:
Mrauder, I thought there was a feast celebrating the return; I guess I'm wrong. I'm going to have to go look it up now...

what day of the year is it, and what is it called? whatever location it is on the calender http://www.crivoice.org... I bet it doesn't have as much time given to it as Christmas or Easter. Christmas has Advent to prepare for that celebration and Easter has Lent.
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10/29/2010 9:08:29 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 10/29/2010 9:05:07 AM, m93samman wrote:
At 10/29/2010 6:28:06 AM, brian_eggleston wrote:
So how do you Americans celebrate Halloween? Bigger and brasher than us over here in Britain it seems:

I'm at a crazy party university, and honestly, I'm gonna be home this weekend so as to avoid the drunkards and sluts and sexual diseases that are walking around. I also am judging a debate tournament; I'm going to be more productive with my time personally. Everyone else (that I know) usually just parties till their throat burns.

Nah I have never seen that.
I went to a couple school dances for halloween, go trick-or-treating with the kids, eat candy etc. I'm not sure I would ever go to any party ever, especially not a haloween party, and I don't actually know anyone that does. Most people I know don't do anything for halloween except update their facebook status to "Happy halloween" Unless kids are in their family, then they also get candy.
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10/29/2010 9:10:17 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 10/29/2010 9:05:52 AM, lovelife wrote:
At 10/29/2010 9:04:02 AM, Ren wrote:
At 10/29/2010 8:49:39 AM, lovelife wrote:
If the seasons complimented each other and it went smoothly, it would be demonic.

What?!

Its a pagan concept, so it is demonic. Easter and Christmas of course are exempt from becoming demonic by these means.

I'm not sure that's a full thought you've given. the pagan origins making it demonic are wrong but at least what your saying there is clear, but by what means is Easter and Christmas exempt and exempt from what? and what does that have to do with the seasons of worship or what the church teaches or celebrates complementing each other have to do with that?
One act of Rebellion created all the darkness and evil in the world; One life of Total Obedience created a path back to eternity and God.

A Scout is Obedient.
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10/29/2010 9:12:09 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 10/29/2010 9:04:57 AM, annhasle wrote:
At 10/29/2010 8:58:11 AM, innomen wrote:
Isn't this C_N's big night? Children coming to his door looking for candy - does it get better than that? Hardly any work involved at all.

No, that's his usual Sunday night. He always has candy to lure children into his house... What he should be excited about is the costumes... I mean, *ahem* role-play?

That's true! However, i cannot imagine roles for....i digress.
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10/29/2010 9:13:43 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 10/29/2010 9:10:17 AM, Marauder wrote:
At 10/29/2010 9:05:52 AM, lovelife wrote:
At 10/29/2010 9:04:02 AM, Ren wrote:
At 10/29/2010 8:49:39 AM, lovelife wrote:
If the seasons complimented each other and it went smoothly, it would be demonic.

What?!

Its a pagan concept, so it is demonic. Easter and Christmas of course are exempt from becoming demonic by these means.

I'm not sure that's a full thought you've given. the pagan origins making it demonic are wrong but at least what your saying there is clear, but by what means is Easter and Christmas exempt and exempt from what? and what does that have to do with the seasons of worship or what the church teaches or celebrates complementing each other have to do with that?

--joking around with the typical christian mindset--

Pagans tend to value worship of seasons, and have everything flow clearly, and nutrally.
Christians hate pagans.
Pagan ideas are demonic.
Anything that has to do with pagans, is evil, including nature.

Now Christmas and Easter are exempt from being demonic cause god said so.
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10/29/2010 9:13:53 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 10/29/2010 9:05:07 AM, m93samman wrote:
I'm at a crazy party university, and honestly, I'm gonna be home this weekend so as to avoid the drunkards and sluts and sexual diseases that are walking around. I also am judging a debate tournament; I'm going to be more productive with my time personally. Everyone else (that I know) usually just parties till their throat burns.

Goodness, you're boring.

I'd sure beg for death with that attitude.
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10/29/2010 9:16:22 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 10/29/2010 9:13:53 AM, Ren wrote:
At 10/29/2010 9:05:07 AM, m93samman wrote:
I'm at a crazy party university, and honestly, I'm gonna be home this weekend so as to avoid the drunkards and sluts and sexual diseases that are walking around. I also am judging a debate tournament; I'm going to be more productive with my time personally. Everyone else (that I know) usually just parties till their throat burns.

Goodness, you're boring.

I'd sure beg for death with that attitude.

I'm making a hundred bucks, seeing dozens of old friends and probably playing a bunch of basketball plus catching up with my family. Sorry, I don't require sluts and alcohol to have fun. I'd say I'm less boring than you by far, because I don't need help to have fun.
: At 4/15/2011 5:29:37 PM, CosmicAlfonzo wrote:
: Pascal's wager is for poosies.
:
: I mean that sincerly, because it's basically an argument from poooosie.
:
: I'm pretty sure that's like a fallacy.. Argument ad Pussium or something like that.
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10/29/2010 9:17:41 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 10/29/2010 9:08:29 AM, lovelife wrote:
At 10/29/2010 9:05:07 AM, m93samman wrote:
At 10/29/2010 6:28:06 AM, brian_eggleston wrote:
So how do you Americans celebrate Halloween? Bigger and brasher than us over here in Britain it seems:

I'm at a crazy party university, and honestly, I'm gonna be home this weekend so as to avoid the drunkards and sluts and sexual diseases that are walking around. I also am judging a debate tournament; I'm going to be more productive with my time personally. Everyone else (that I know) usually just parties till their throat burns.

Nah I have never seen that.
I went to a couple school dances for halloween, go trick-or-treating with the kids, eat candy etc. I'm not sure I would ever go to any party ever, especially not a haloween party, and I don't actually know anyone that does. Most people I know don't do anything for halloween except update their facebook status to "Happy halloween" Unless kids are in their family, then they also get candy.

Just wait till you get to college. It's a whore-fest; I understand from a few friends that some parties don't allow females in who don't have slutty outfits (ex. nurse, maid, or firewoman with more than 75% of her skin showing.)
: At 4/15/2011 5:29:37 PM, CosmicAlfonzo wrote:
: Pascal's wager is for poosies.
:
: I mean that sincerly, because it's basically an argument from poooosie.
:
: I'm pretty sure that's like a fallacy.. Argument ad Pussium or something like that.
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10/29/2010 9:20:54 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 10/29/2010 9:17:41 AM, m93samman wrote:
At 10/29/2010 9:08:29 AM, lovelife wrote:
At 10/29/2010 9:05:07 AM, m93samman wrote:
At 10/29/2010 6:28:06 AM, brian_eggleston wrote:
So how do you Americans celebrate Halloween? Bigger and brasher than us over here in Britain it seems:

I'm at a crazy party university, and honestly, I'm gonna be home this weekend so as to avoid the drunkards and sluts and sexual diseases that are walking around. I also am judging a debate tournament; I'm going to be more productive with my time personally. Everyone else (that I know) usually just parties till their throat burns.

Nah I have never seen that.
I went to a couple school dances for halloween, go trick-or-treating with the kids, eat candy etc. I'm not sure I would ever go to any party ever, especially not a haloween party, and I don't actually know anyone that does. Most people I know don't do anything for halloween except update their facebook status to "Happy halloween" Unless kids are in their family, then they also get candy.

Just wait till you get to college. It's a whore-fest; I understand from a few friends that some parties don't allow females in who don't have slutty outfits (ex. nurse, maid, or firewoman with more than 75% of her skin showing.)

I wont be going to those parties, and most likely wont be socializing with people that do go. I'm sure some people actually do, but I don't know anyone that does, because the characteristics I look for in friends is not compatable with that level of sluttiness.
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10/29/2010 9:24:56 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 10/29/2010 8:58:11 AM, innomen wrote:
Isn't this C_N's big night? Children coming to his door looking for candy - does it get better than that? Hardly any work involved at all.

Ha-ha-ha! You bastard!
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10/29/2010 9:29:09 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 10/29/2010 9:20:54 AM, lovelife wrote:
At 10/29/2010 9:17:41 AM, m93samman wrote:
At 10/29/2010 9:08:29 AM, lovelife wrote:
At 10/29/2010 9:05:07 AM, m93samman wrote:
At 10/29/2010 6:28:06 AM, brian_eggleston wrote:
So how do you Americans celebrate Halloween? Bigger and brasher than us over here in Britain it seems:

I'm at a crazy party university, and honestly, I'm gonna be home this weekend so as to avoid the drunkards and sluts and sexual diseases that are walking around. I also am judging a debate tournament; I'm going to be more productive with my time personally. Everyone else (that I know) usually just parties till their throat burns.

Nah I have never seen that.
I went to a couple school dances for halloween, go trick-or-treating with the kids, eat candy etc. I'm not sure I would ever go to any party ever, especially not a haloween party, and I don't actually know anyone that does. Most people I know don't do anything for halloween except update their facebook status to "Happy halloween" Unless kids are in their family, then they also get candy.

Just wait till you get to college. It's a whore-fest; I understand from a few friends that some parties don't allow females in who don't have slutty outfits (ex. nurse, maid, or firewoman with more than 75% of her skin showing.)

I wont be going to those parties, and most likely wont be socializing with people that do go. I'm sure some people actually do, but I don't know anyone that does, because the characteristics I look for in friends is not compatable with that level of sluttiness.

I didn't either, but everyone in my Dorm did (we had dorm clusters, so 10 of us shared a living room, bathroom, and kitchen, though we all had our own prison cell sized rooms), so I got stuck with it anyway. Plus a fun scar, where a drunk guy thought it was a good idea to toss a can of soda (I didn't drink) to me rather then hand it to me, when all the lights were turned off. The rim of the can caught me on the brow.
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10/29/2010 9:29:10 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 10/29/2010 9:24:56 AM, brian_eggleston wrote:
At 10/29/2010 8:58:11 AM, innomen wrote:
Isn't this C_N's big night? Children coming to his door looking for candy - does it get better than that? Hardly any work involved at all.

Ha-ha-ha! You bastard!
: At 4/15/2011 5:29:37 PM, CosmicAlfonzo wrote:
: Pascal's wager is for poosies.
:
: I mean that sincerly, because it's basically an argument from poooosie.
:
: I'm pretty sure that's like a fallacy.. Argument ad Pussium or something like that.
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10/29/2010 9:29:29 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 10/29/2010 9:13:43 AM, lovelife wrote:
At 10/29/2010 9:10:17 AM, Marauder wrote:
At 10/29/2010 9:05:52 AM, lovelife wrote:
At 10/29/2010 9:04:02 AM, Ren wrote:
At 10/29/2010 8:49:39 AM, lovelife wrote:
If the seasons complimented each other and it went smoothly, it would be demonic.

What?!

Its a pagan concept, so it is demonic. Easter and Christmas of course are exempt from becoming demonic by these means.

I'm not sure that's a full thought you've given. the pagan origins making it demonic are wrong but at least what your saying there is clear, but by what means is Easter and Christmas exempt and exempt from what? and what does that have to do with the seasons of worship or what the church teaches or celebrates complementing each other have to do with that?

--joking around with the typical christian mindset--

Pagans tend to value worship of seasons, and have everything flow clearly, and nutrally.
Christians hate pagans.
Pagan ideas are demonic.
Anything that has to do with pagans, is evil, including nature.

We do not throw the baby's out with the bathwater like that.

Now Christmas and Easter are exempt from being demonic cause god said so.

God said nothing about Christmas and Easter that he didn't say about Halloween as well.
One act of Rebellion created all the darkness and evil in the world; One life of Total Obedience created a path back to eternity and God.

A Scout is Obedient.