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Peternosaint
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1/30/2016 12:15:21 PM
Posted: 10 months ago
What do you get out of a visit of a Pope to your country, and what does it cost you?

There was one in Sydney, Australia; and the estimate of the crowd were pumped up for publicity purposes by around 50,000. The attendance was much lower than expected.

Many of the world Youth that came, stayed in this country without bothering to ask permission, Here is one report:

ALMOST 300 pilgrims who came to Australia to pray with Pope Benedict XVI are on the run after illegally overstaying their visas.
The Daily Telegraph can reveal that, of the 110,000 people who came to Sydney for World Youth Day last year, 550 did not go home.
Federal immigration authorities have caught and expelled about half of those but 280 pilgrims are still on the run.
The majority of overstayers are from South Pacific countries including Tonga, Fiji and Samoa. The bulk of the remainder came from India, Vietnam and Pakistan.
Federal Department of Immigration and Citizenship spokesman Sandi Logan said the overstayers represented less than 0.3 per cent of the number of people who came to Australia for the world's largest youth event.
"But it is still an issue," Mr Logan said

Here is another:

In preparation for the Pope"s visit to Sydney, Australia, the premier of New South Wales had a financial statement drawn up which he said showed the papal jamboree would bring in $150 million Australian. Then the Catholic Church got the Government"of Premier Morris Iemma, who happens to be Catholic, to exempt this report from the Freedom of Information Act, claiming it would be against the public interest to allow anyone to check the figures. [41] All that could be gleaned was that $41 million in public funds was paid to the race track where the event was held and it's been estimated that at least another $20 million was spent on security. Not included here"is the cost of providing emergency services and of billeting pilgrims in state schools. [42]Until late November Premier"Iemma's government was"still resolutely refusing to reveal the price tag for""the joy"it brought to our city". Later, however, Tourism Australia released figures suggesting that far fewer attended the World Youth Day than the Church had estimated. And most of the "pilgrims" who did turn up, quite naturally took the free accommodation provided by the state and didn't use hotels."[43] Furthermore, the tourism department's figures indicate that the event actually ended up"costing"Sydney some 63,000 visitors who preferred not to spend their holiday in a city full of"fervent teenagers."Yet even long after the event"the information on the government's expenses was still treated like a state secret. [44]
In the wake of news of the tourist shortfall, the financial shortfall was made public when the Auditor General was finally allowed to release his "top secret" report. According to this, the Australian taxpayers will have to pay an additional $100 million AUD. He"said that""the estimated final cost for World Youth Day is six times the original budget estimate."" His report says the actual outlays are likely to be $120 million, but that figure would not include a host of costs incurred by other Government agencies, and so the true cost of hosting the event may never be known. [45] For an assessment of"the attendance and financial figures see"Max Wallace, "World Youth Day wash up", Online Opinion, 5 February 2009.""

When you consider that not all a country's people are Catholic, and even the catholics said they would not bother to go to t he venue because of the traffic problems.

With the Vatican owning 26% of google I doubt that the crime at the world Youth convention would be recorded there, but here in Australia at the time of the event there were News stories every night on some mischief or other.

Does your country need the Pope to visit?
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1/30/2016 12:54:06 PM
Posted: 10 months ago
I've never had one, what did you get?
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1/30/2016 1:09:51 PM
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It looks like a way for Catholics to rub it in other religions faces . Look at us where the biggest ever . Look how many of us there is . We have a god like living person. Look at all the people that love him and turn up 2 see him. It's nothing short of brilliant advertising. You can learn from that JW . His like a god, and he is living. What what what a real life living good. I myself don't care a bit about him. But I see it is smart. The biggest gang has to show a bit of front.
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1/30/2016 1:13:01 PM
Posted: 10 months ago
At 1/30/2016 1:09:51 PM, Deb-8-A-Bull wrote:
It looks like a way for Catholics to rub it in other religions faces . Look at us where the biggest ever . Look how many of us there is . We have a god like living person. Look at all the people that love him and turn up 2 see him. It's nothing short of brilliant advertising. You can learn from that JW . His like a god, and he is living. What what what a real life living good. I myself don't care a bit about him. But I see it is smart. The biggest gang has to show a bit of front.

They have a living god , you guys have a little catalog.
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1/30/2016 6:14:27 PM
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So, we have an estimated 10 mil or more illegals in the US and some commit crimes also, and they lower the wage earning capability of the labor class US citizen that coast considerably more then a head of state visit. But it saves businesses a ton of money to have economically enslaved labor that lives under the fear of extradition at the whim or threat of their employer and have no right to organize or right to minimum benefits provided by law. Oh yea incase you didn"t know the Vatican is it"s own state or nation, therefore the Pope is a head of state.

So how many legal Australians commit crimes?
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1/30/2016 7:47:35 PM
Posted: 10 months ago
At 1/30/2016 12:15:21 PM, Peternosaint wrote:
What do you get out of a visit of a Pope to your country, and what does it cost you?

There was one in Sydney, Australia; and the estimate of the crowd were pumped up for publicity purposes by around 50,000. The attendance was much lower than expected.

Many of the world Youth that came, stayed in this country without bothering to ask permission, Here is one report:

ALMOST 300 pilgrims who came to Australia to pray with Pope Benedict XVI are on the run after illegally overstaying their visas.
The Daily Telegraph can reveal that, of the 110,000 people who came to Sydney for World Youth Day last year, 550 did not go home.
Federal immigration authorities have caught and expelled about half of those but 280 pilgrims are still on the run.
The majority of overstayers are from South Pacific countries including Tonga, Fiji and Samoa. The bulk of the remainder came from India, Vietnam and Pakistan.
Federal Department of Immigration and Citizenship spokesman Sandi Logan said the overstayers represented less than 0.3 per cent of the number of people who came to Australia for the world's largest youth event.
"But it is still an issue," Mr Logan said

Here is another:

In preparation for the Pope"s visit to Sydney, Australia, the premier of New South Wales had a financial statement drawn up which he said showed the papal jamboree would bring in $150 million Australian. Then the Catholic Church got the Government"of Premier Morris Iemma, who happens to be Catholic, to exempt this report from the Freedom of Information Act, claiming it would be against the public interest to allow anyone to check the figures. [41] All that could be gleaned was that $41 million in public funds was paid to the race track where the event was held and it's been estimated that at least another $20 million was spent on security. Not included here"is the cost of providing emergency services and of billeting pilgrims in state schools. [42]Until late November Premier"Iemma's government was"still resolutely refusing to reveal the price tag for""the joy"it brought to our city". Later, however, Tourism Australia released figures suggesting that far fewer attended the World Youth Day than the Church had estimated. And most of the "pilgrims" who did turn up, quite naturally took the free accommodation provided by the state and didn't use hotels."[43] Furthermore, the tourism department's figures indicate that the event actually ended up"costing"Sydney some 63,000 visitors who preferred not to spend their holiday in a city full of"fervent teenagers."Yet even long after the event"the information on the government's expenses was still treated like a state secret. [44]
In the wake of news of the tourist shortfall, the financial shortfall was made public when the Auditor General was finally allowed to release his "top secret" report. According to this, the Australian taxpayers will have to pay an additional $100 million AUD. He"said that""the estimated final cost for World Youth Day is six times the original budget estimate."" His report says the actual outlays are likely to be $120 million, but that figure would not include a host of costs incurred by other Government agencies, and so the true cost of hosting the event may never be known. [45] For an assessment of"the attendance and financial figures see"Max Wallace, "World Youth Day wash up", Online Opinion, 5 February 2009.""

When you consider that not all a country's people are Catholic, and even the catholics said they would not bother to go to t he venue because of the traffic problems.

With the Vatican owning 26% of google I doubt that the crime at the world Youth convention would be recorded there, but here in Australia at the time of the event there were News stories every night on some mischief or other.

Does your country need the Pope to visit?

Your claim of the Vatican owning 26% of Google is ludicrous. From Bing:

"Top 10 Share Holders of Google
As at December 2009, the number of shares outstanding was 318 million. Of this figure over 40% was held by large institutions and mutual funds, with the two founders still owning a significant amount of the outstanding shares. The top 10 owners of Google"s stock are:

Fidelity
BlackRock
State Street
Vanguard Group
Capital Research
T. Rowe Price
Capital World
alliancebernstein
Marsico Capital
At the time of its IPO, the vast majority of Google's 271 million shares remained under the control of Google, more specifically, its owners. Since then Google has sold more of its shares to the market to increase its cash reserves and finance acquisitions. Financial Institutions and large investors own a large percentage of these shares, but owing to the fact that Google is a public traded corporation, it is more accurate to say: Google is owned by its shareholders."
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1/30/2016 8:21:22 PM
Posted: 10 months ago
At 1/30/2016 12:15:21 PM, Peternosaint wrote:
What do you get out of a visit of a Pope to your country, and what does it cost you?

There was one in Sydney, Australia; and the estimate of the crowd were pumped up for publicity purposes by around 50,000. The attendance was much lower than expected.

Many of the world Youth that came, stayed in this country without bothering to ask permission, Here is one report:

ALMOST 300 pilgrims who came to Australia to pray with Pope Benedict XVI are on the run after illegally overstaying their visas.
The Daily Telegraph can reveal that, of the 110,000 people who came to Sydney for World Youth Day last year, 550 did not go home.
Federal immigration authorities have caught and expelled about half of those but 280 pilgrims are still on the run.
The majority of overstayers are from South Pacific countries including Tonga, Fiji and Samoa. The bulk of the remainder came from India, Vietnam and Pakistan.
Federal Department of Immigration and Citizenship spokesman Sandi Logan said the overstayers represented less than 0.3 per cent of the number of people who came to Australia for the world's largest youth event.
"But it is still an issue," Mr Logan said

Here is another:

In preparation for the Pope"s visit to Sydney, Australia, the premier of New South Wales had a financial statement drawn up which he said showed the papal jamboree would bring in $150 million Australian. Then the Catholic Church got the Government"of Premier Morris Iemma, who happens to be Catholic, to exempt this report from the Freedom of Information Act, claiming it would be against the public interest to allow anyone to check the figures. [41] All that could be gleaned was that $41 million in public funds was paid to the race track where the event was held and it's been estimated that at least another $20 million was spent on security. Not included here"is the cost of providing emergency services and of billeting pilgrims in state schools. [42]Until late November Premier"Iemma's government was"still resolutely refusing to reveal the price tag for""the joy"it brought to our city". Later, however, Tourism Australia released figures suggesting that far fewer attended the World Youth Day than the Church had estimated. And most of the "pilgrims" who did turn up, quite naturally took the free accommodation provided by the state and didn't use hotels."[43] Furthermore, the tourism department's figures indicate that the event actually ended up"costing"Sydney some 63,000 visitors who preferred not to spend their holiday in a city full of"fervent teenagers."Yet even long after the event"the information on the government's expenses was still treated like a state secret. [44]
In the wake of news of the tourist shortfall, the financial shortfall was made public when the Auditor General was finally allowed to release his "top secret" report. According to this, the Australian taxpayers will have to pay an additional $100 million AUD. He"said that""the estimated final cost for World Youth Day is six times the original budget estimate."" His report says the actual outlays are likely to be $120 million, but that figure would not include a host of costs incurred by other Government agencies, and so the true cost of hosting the event may never be known. [45] For an assessment of"the attendance and financial figures see"Max Wallace, "World Youth Day wash up", Online Opinion, 5 February 2009.""

When you consider that not all a country's people are Catholic, and even the catholics said they would not bother to go to t he venue because of the traffic problems.

With the Vatican owning 26% of google I doubt that the crime at the world Youth convention would be recorded there, but here in Australia at the time of the event there were News stories every night on some mischief or other.

Does your country need the Pope to visit?

absolutely nothing he is just another man and no more Holy than any other man on the planet...
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1/30/2016 11:33:44 PM
Posted: 10 months ago
At 1/30/2016 12:15:21 PM, Peternosaint wrote:
What do you get out of a visit of a Pope to your country, and what does it cost you?

I got a Pope Francis Bobblehead, it was a gift.
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