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JJ50
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1/31/2016 12:38:28 PM
Posted: 10 months ago
I saw this on another forum and it still amazes me that people can be that gullible, even though I have met many people over the years who believe in the literal truth of the Bible!

An Evangelical Pastor managed to abuse victims after convincing them that his penis contains HOLY MILK. The criminal: Valdeci Sobreni Picano of Brazil.

Valdeci Sobrino Picanto is a Brazilian Evangelical Pastor. He has been arrested after deceiving the faithful using the name of the "Holy Spirit", by using these foolish lies. This criminal pastor claimed that the Holy Spirit would secrete from his penis in the form of "sacred milk". This pastor said that his penis was blessed and that "the Lord had consecrated him with divine milk of the Holy Spirit" and, of course, he had to release it in order to "evangelize".

"He has convinced us that only God could come into our lives through our mouth and that's why he would do what he did". Often, after worship, pastor Valdeci would take us to the where the funds were kept at the back of the Church and asked us to have Oral sex with him until the Holy Spirit would come through ejaculation".

This is the testimony of one of his victims.

This pastor is already in jail where, he said when they arrested him, that he intends to continue watering his cellmates with his sacred milk.

Read more at http://www.liveleak.com...
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1/31/2016 12:49:20 PM
Posted: 10 months ago
At 1/31/2016 12:38:28 PM, JJ50 wrote:
IHow can people be that gullible?

Bs"d

I'm also baffled that evolutionists can make people believe that a frog turned into a prince.
Please be advised that everywhere in your translation of your OT when it is written "the LORD" with all capitals, then in the original Hebrew it says the four lettered name of God: Y-H-W-H. That name appears almost 7000 times in the Hebrew Bible.
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1/31/2016 12:52:53 PM
Posted: 10 months ago
At 1/31/2016 12:49:20 PM, Eliyahu wrote:
At 1/31/2016 12:38:28 PM, JJ50 wrote:
IHow can people be that gullible?

Bs"d

I'm also baffled that evolutionists can make people believe that a frog turned into a prince.

WHAT?! Where in tarnation have you heard that story as anything else than a fictional story? XDDDDDDD Maybe you believe Disney movies are created for being realistic too? Or Lord of the Rings and Harry Potter?
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1/31/2016 12:56:28 PM
Posted: 10 months ago
At 1/31/2016 12:52:53 PM, Jovian wrote:
At 1/31/2016 12:49:20 PM, Eliyahu wrote:
At 1/31/2016 12:38:28 PM, JJ50 wrote:
IHow can people be that gullible?

Bs"d

I'm also baffled that evolutionists can make people believe that a frog turned into a prince.

WHAT?! Where in tarnation have you heard that story as anything else than a fictional story?

Bs"d

It is the general evolutionistic teaching, even though they might phrase it slightly different.
Please be advised that everywhere in your translation of your OT when it is written "the LORD" with all capitals, then in the original Hebrew it says the four lettered name of God: Y-H-W-H. That name appears almost 7000 times in the Hebrew Bible.
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1/31/2016 1:01:59 PM
Posted: 10 months ago
At 1/31/2016 12:56:28 PM, Eliyahu wrote:
At 1/31/2016 12:52:53 PM, Jovian wrote:
At 1/31/2016 12:49:20 PM, Eliyahu wrote:
At 1/31/2016 12:38:28 PM, JJ50 wrote:
IHow can people be that gullible?

Bs"d

I'm also baffled that evolutionists can make people believe that a frog turned into a prince.

WHAT?! Where in tarnation have you heard that story as anything else than a fictional story?

Bs"d

It is the general evolutionistic teaching, even though they might phrase it slightly different.
hahaha and he sometimes attempts to converse about evolution, how funny can ya get?
Religion is just mind control. George Carlin
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1/31/2016 1:14:35 PM
Posted: 10 months ago
At 1/31/2016 12:56:28 PM, Eliyahu wrote:
At 1/31/2016 12:52:53 PM, Jovian wrote:
At 1/31/2016 12:49:20 PM, Eliyahu wrote:
At 1/31/2016 12:38:28 PM, JJ50 wrote:
IHow can people be that gullible?

Bs"d

I'm also baffled that evolutionists can make people believe that a frog turned into a prince.

WHAT?! Where in tarnation have you heard that story as anything else than a fictional story?

Bs"d

It is the general evolutionistic teaching, even though they might phrase it slightly different.

Like how?
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1/31/2016 1:20:11 PM
Posted: 10 months ago
At 1/31/2016 12:38:28 PM, JJ50 wrote:
I saw this on another forum and it still amazes me that people can be that gullible, even though I have met many people over the years who believe in the literal truth of the Bible!


An Evangelical Pastor managed to abuse victims after convincing them that his penis contains HOLY MILK. The criminal: Valdeci Sobreni Picano of Brazil.

Valdeci Sobrino Picanto is a Brazilian Evangelical Pastor. He has been arrested after deceiving the faithful using the name of the "Holy Spirit", by using these foolish lies. This criminal pastor claimed that the Holy Spirit would secrete from his penis in the form of "sacred milk". This pastor said that his penis was blessed and that "the Lord had consecrated him with divine milk of the Holy Spirit" and, of course, he had to release it in order to "evangelize".


"He has convinced us that only God could come into our lives through our mouth and that's why he would do what he did". Often, after worship, pastor Valdeci would take us to the where the funds were kept at the back of the Church and asked us to have Oral sex with him until the Holy Spirit would come through ejaculation".

This is the testimony of one of his victims.

This pastor is already in jail where, he said when they arrested him, that he intends to continue watering his cellmates with his sacred milk.

Read more at http://www.liveleak.com...


the catholics, mormons, jw's have all had problems with child abuse, no one spoke out no one protected them...

the wako group where sleeping with someone who declared himself to be Jesus...

this is what happens when people blindly follow a cult or religion and are taught not to think, question or even try to reason, it is dangeous...
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1/31/2016 1:25:01 PM
Posted: 10 months ago
At 1/31/2016 1:20:11 PM, graceofgod wrote:
At 1/31/2016 12:38:28 PM, JJ50 wrote:
I saw this on another forum and it still amazes me that people can be that gullible, even though I have met many people over the years who believe in the literal truth of the Bible!


An Evangelical Pastor managed to abuse victims after convincing them that his penis contains HOLY MILK. The criminal: Valdeci Sobreni Picano of Brazil.

Valdeci Sobrino Picanto is a Brazilian Evangelical Pastor. He has been arrested after deceiving the faithful using the name of the "Holy Spirit", by using these foolish lies. This criminal pastor claimed that the Holy Spirit would secrete from his penis in the form of "sacred milk". This pastor said that his penis was blessed and that "the Lord had consecrated him with divine milk of the Holy Spirit" and, of course, he had to release it in order to "evangelize".


"He has convinced us that only God could come into our lives through our mouth and that's why he would do what he did". Often, after worship, pastor Valdeci would take us to the where the funds were kept at the back of the Church and asked us to have Oral sex with him until the Holy Spirit would come through ejaculation".

This is the testimony of one of his victims.

This pastor is already in jail where, he said when they arrested him, that he intends to continue watering his cellmates with his sacred milk.

Read more at http://www.liveleak.com...


the catholics, mormons, jw's have all had problems with child abuse, no one spoke out no one protected them...

the wako group where sleeping with someone who declared himself to be Jesus...

this is what happens when people blindly follow a cult or religion and are taught not to think, question or even try to reason, it is dangeous...

The more extreme religions which insist people suspend all logic like the, ' you must be 'saved' or go to hell', cult are putting people in danger of abuse, mental and physical!
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1/31/2016 1:32:55 PM
Posted: 10 months ago
At 1/31/2016 1:25:01 PM, JJ50 wrote:
At 1/31/2016 1:20:11 PM, graceofgod wrote:
At 1/31/2016 12:38:28 PM, JJ50 wrote:
I saw this on another forum and it still amazes me that people can be that gullible, even though I have met many people over the years who believe in the literal truth of the Bible!


An Evangelical Pastor managed to abuse victims after convincing them that his penis contains HOLY MILK. The criminal: Valdeci Sobreni Picano of Brazil.

Valdeci Sobrino Picanto is a Brazilian Evangelical Pastor. He has been arrested after deceiving the faithful using the name of the "Holy Spirit", by using these foolish lies. This criminal pastor claimed that the Holy Spirit would secrete from his penis in the form of "sacred milk". This pastor said that his penis was blessed and that "the Lord had consecrated him with divine milk of the Holy Spirit" and, of course, he had to release it in order to "evangelize".


"He has convinced us that only God could come into our lives through our mouth and that's why he would do what he did". Often, after worship, pastor Valdeci would take us to the where the funds were kept at the back of the Church and asked us to have Oral sex with him until the Holy Spirit would come through ejaculation".

This is the testimony of one of his victims.

This pastor is already in jail where, he said when they arrested him, that he intends to continue watering his cellmates with his sacred milk.

Read more at http://www.liveleak.com...


the catholics, mormons, jw's have all had problems with child abuse, no one spoke out no one protected them...

the wako group where sleeping with someone who declared himself to be Jesus...

this is what happens when people blindly follow a cult or religion and are taught not to think, question or even try to reason, it is dangeous...

The more extreme religions which insist people suspend all logic like the, ' you must be 'saved' or go to hell', cult are putting people in danger of abuse, mental and physical!

the more extreme religions would say you must join them or be killed like islam...
any faith should pass the words "test me" as the God of the bible does, you should check the word out for yourself, check the people you believe to tell you the truth are doing just that, don't assume check what they tell you, check how they conduct them selves is it according to scripture... what no one should do is put their brains on stop and just follow assuming it is always right what someone in charge says...

this also goes for freemasonry and the secular groups that would lead people in to despicable acts....
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1/31/2016 1:38:25 PM
Posted: 10 months ago
At 1/31/2016 1:32:55 PM, graceofgod wrote:
At 1/31/2016 1:25:01 PM, JJ50 wrote:
At 1/31/2016 1:20:11 PM, graceofgod wrote:
At 1/31/2016 12:38:28 PM, JJ50 wrote:
I saw this on another forum and it still amazes me that people can be that gullible, even though I have met many people over the years who believe in the literal truth of the Bible!


An Evangelical Pastor managed to abuse victims after convincing them that his penis contains HOLY MILK. The criminal: Valdeci Sobreni Picano of Brazil.

Valdeci Sobrino Picanto is a Brazilian Evangelical Pastor. He has been arrested after deceiving the faithful using the name of the "Holy Spirit", by using these foolish lies. This criminal pastor claimed that the Holy Spirit would secrete from his penis in the form of "sacred milk". This pastor said that his penis was blessed and that "the Lord had consecrated him with divine milk of the Holy Spirit" and, of course, he had to release it in order to "evangelize".


"He has convinced us that only God could come into our lives through our mouth and that's why he would do what he did". Often, after worship, pastor Valdeci would take us to the where the funds were kept at the back of the Church and asked us to have Oral sex with him until the Holy Spirit would come through ejaculation".

This is the testimony of one of his victims.

This pastor is already in jail where, he said when they arrested him, that he intends to continue watering his cellmates with his sacred milk.

Read more at http://www.liveleak.com...


the catholics, mormons, jw's have all had problems with child abuse, no one spoke out no one protected them...

the wako group where sleeping with someone who declared himself to be Jesus...

this is what happens when people blindly follow a cult or religion and are taught not to think, question or even try to reason, it is dangeous...

The more extreme religions which insist people suspend all logic like the, ' you must be 'saved' or go to hell', cult are putting people in danger of abuse, mental and physical!

the more extreme religions would say you must join them or be killed like islam...
any faith should pass the words "test me" as the God of the bible does, you should check the word out for yourself, check the people you believe to tell you the truth are doing just that, don't assume check what they tell you, check how they conduct them selves is it according to scripture... what no one should do is put their brains on stop and just follow assuming it is always right what someone in charge says...

this also goes for freemasonry and the secular groups that would lead people in to despicable acts....

Biblical literalists are very sad people, the deity featured there is mentally ill as well as bad!
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1/31/2016 1:43:18 PM
Posted: 10 months ago
At 1/31/2016 1:38:25 PM, JJ50 wrote:
At 1/31/2016 1:32:55 PM, graceofgod wrote:
At 1/31/2016 1:25:01 PM, JJ50 wrote:
At 1/31/2016 1:20:11 PM, graceofgod wrote:
At 1/31/2016 12:38:28 PM, JJ50 wrote:
I saw this on another forum and it still amazes me that people can be that gullible, even though I have met many people over the years who believe in the literal truth of the Bible!


An Evangelical Pastor managed to abuse victims after convincing them that his penis contains HOLY MILK. The criminal: Valdeci Sobreni Picano of Brazil.

Valdeci Sobrino Picanto is a Brazilian Evangelical Pastor. He has been arrested after deceiving the faithful using the name of the "Holy Spirit", by using these foolish lies. This criminal pastor claimed that the Holy Spirit would secrete from his penis in the form of "sacred milk". This pastor said that his penis was blessed and that "the Lord had consecrated him with divine milk of the Holy Spirit" and, of course, he had to release it in order to "evangelize".


"He has convinced us that only God could come into our lives through our mouth and that's why he would do what he did". Often, after worship, pastor Valdeci would take us to the where the funds were kept at the back of the Church and asked us to have Oral sex with him until the Holy Spirit would come through ejaculation".

This is the testimony of one of his victims.

This pastor is already in jail where, he said when they arrested him, that he intends to continue watering his cellmates with his sacred milk.

Read more at http://www.liveleak.com...


the catholics, mormons, jw's have all had problems with child abuse, no one spoke out no one protected them...

the wako group where sleeping with someone who declared himself to be Jesus...

this is what happens when people blindly follow a cult or religion and are taught not to think, question or even try to reason, it is dangeous...

The more extreme religions which insist people suspend all logic like the, ' you must be 'saved' or go to hell', cult are putting people in danger of abuse, mental and physical!

the more extreme religions would say you must join them or be killed like islam...
any faith should pass the words "test me" as the God of the bible does, you should check the word out for yourself, check the people you believe to tell you the truth are doing just that, don't assume check what they tell you, check how they conduct them selves is it according to scripture... what no one should do is put their brains on stop and just follow assuming it is always right what someone in charge says...

this also goes for freemasonry and the secular groups that would lead people in to despicable acts....

Biblical literalists are very sad people, the deity featured there is mentally ill as well as bad!

to be honest the bible to me is literal in places and more figurative in other places, it is about keeping the context that makes all the difference, especially when people do not research deeply in to the reasoning of certain texts..

though mental and bad along with gullible are not reserved to religious people, people of faith or anyone else for that matter..
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1/31/2016 1:49:59 PM
Posted: 10 months ago
At 1/31/2016 12:38:28 PM, JJ50 wrote:
I saw this on another forum and it still amazes me that people can be that gullible, even though I have met many people over the years who believe in the literal truth of the Bible!


An Evangelical Pastor managed to abuse victims after convincing them that his penis contains HOLY MILK. The criminal: Valdeci Sobreni Picano of Brazil.

Valdeci Sobrino Picanto is a Brazilian Evangelical Pastor. He has been arrested after deceiving the faithful using the name of the "Holy Spirit", by using these foolish lies. This criminal pastor claimed that the Holy Spirit would secrete from his penis in the form of "sacred milk". This pastor said that his penis was blessed and that "the Lord had consecrated him with divine milk of the Holy Spirit" and, of course, he had to release it in order to "evangelize".


"He has convinced us that only God could come into our lives through our mouth and that's why he would do what he did". Often, after worship, pastor Valdeci would take us to the where the funds were kept at the back of the Church and asked us to have Oral sex with him until the Holy Spirit would come through ejaculation".

This is the testimony of one of his victims.

This pastor is already in jail where, he said when they arrested him, that he intends to continue watering his cellmates with his sacred milk.

Read more at http://www.liveleak.com...


Dunno, you tell me, you've fallen for most of Satan's tricks so far.
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1/31/2016 1:57:41 PM
Posted: 10 months ago
At 1/31/2016 12:38:28 PM, JJ50 wrote:
I saw this on another forum and it still amazes me that people can be that gullible, even though I have met many people over the years who believe in the literal truth of the Bible!


An Evangelical Pastor managed to abuse victims after convincing them that his penis contains HOLY MILK. The criminal: Valdeci Sobreni Picano of Brazil.

Valdeci Sobrino Picanto is a Brazilian Evangelical Pastor. He has been arrested after deceiving the faithful using the name of the "Holy Spirit", by using these foolish lies. This criminal pastor claimed that the Holy Spirit would secrete from his penis in the form of "sacred milk". This pastor said that his penis was blessed and that "the Lord had consecrated him with divine milk of the Holy Spirit" and, of course, he had to release it in order to "evangelize".


"He has convinced us that only God could come into our lives through our mouth and that's why he would do what he did". Often, after worship, pastor Valdeci would take us to the where the funds were kept at the back of the Church and asked us to have Oral sex with him until the Holy Spirit would come through ejaculation".

This is the testimony of one of his victims.

This pastor is already in jail where, he said when they arrested him, that he intends to continue watering his cellmates with his sacred milk.

Read more at http://www.liveleak.com...


And some young bloke reported that he told him it was the bells of Saint Clements, and he'd been pulling for the last 12 months.
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1/31/2016 2:33:05 PM
Posted: 10 months ago
At 1/31/2016 1:49:59 PM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
At 1/31/2016 12:38:28 PM, JJ50 wrote:
I saw this on another forum and it still amazes me that people can be that gullible, even though I have met many people over the years who believe in the literal truth of the Bible!


An Evangelical Pastor managed to abuse victims after convincing them that his penis contains HOLY MILK. The criminal: Valdeci Sobreni Picano of Brazil.

Valdeci Sobrino Picanto is a Brazilian Evangelical Pastor. He has been arrested after deceiving the faithful using the name of the "Holy Spirit", by using these foolish lies. This criminal pastor claimed that the Holy Spirit would secrete from his penis in the form of "sacred milk". This pastor said that his penis was blessed and that "the Lord had consecrated him with divine milk of the Holy Spirit" and, of course, he had to release it in order to "evangelize".


"He has convinced us that only God could come into our lives through our mouth and that's why he would do what he did". Often, after worship, pastor Valdeci would take us to the where the funds were kept at the back of the Church and asked us to have Oral sex with him until the Holy Spirit would come through ejaculation".

This is the testimony of one of his victims.

This pastor is already in jail where, he said when they arrested him, that he intends to continue watering his cellmates with his sacred milk.

Read more at http://www.liveleak.com...


Dunno, you tell me, you've fallen for most of Satan's tricks so far.

You are the gullible one if you believe Satan exists as there is no evidence to support his existence!
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1/31/2016 2:33:40 PM
Posted: 10 months ago
At 1/31/2016 1:49:59 PM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
At 1/31/2016 12:38:28 PM, JJ50 wrote:
I saw this on another forum and it still amazes me that people can be that gullible, even though I have met many people over the years who believe in the literal truth of the Bible!


An Evangelical Pastor managed to abuse victims after convincing them that his penis contains HOLY MILK. The criminal: Valdeci Sobreni Picano of Brazil.

Valdeci Sobrino Picanto is a Brazilian Evangelical Pastor. He has been arrested after deceiving the faithful using the name of the "Holy Spirit", by using these foolish lies. This criminal pastor claimed that the Holy Spirit would secrete from his penis in the form of "sacred milk". This pastor said that his penis was blessed and that "the Lord had consecrated him with divine milk of the Holy Spirit" and, of course, he had to release it in order to "evangelize".


"He has convinced us that only God could come into our lives through our mouth and that's why he would do what he did". Often, after worship, pastor Valdeci would take us to the where the funds were kept at the back of the Church and asked us to have Oral sex with him until the Holy Spirit would come through ejaculation".

This is the testimony of one of his victims.

This pastor is already in jail where, he said when they arrested him, that he intends to continue watering his cellmates with his sacred milk.

Read more at http://www.liveleak.com...


Dunno, you tell me, you've fallen for most of Satan's tricks so far.
So have you and he still won't let you into his cult. LOL
Religion is just mind control. George Carlin
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1/31/2016 2:44:07 PM
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At 1/31/2016 2:33:40 PM, bulproof wrote:
At 1/31/2016 1:49:59 PM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
At 1/31/2016 12:38:28 PM, JJ50 wrote:
I saw this on another forum and it still amazes me that people can be that gullible, even though I have met many people over the years who believe in the literal truth of the Bible!


An Evangelical Pastor managed to abuse victims after convincing them that his penis contains HOLY MILK. The criminal: Valdeci Sobreni Picano of Brazil.

Valdeci Sobrino Picanto is a Brazilian Evangelical Pastor. He has been arrested after deceiving the faithful using the name of the "Holy Spirit", by using these foolish lies. This criminal pastor claimed that the Holy Spirit would secrete from his penis in the form of "sacred milk". This pastor said that his penis was blessed and that "the Lord had consecrated him with divine milk of the Holy Spirit" and, of course, he had to release it in order to "evangelize".


"He has convinced us that only God could come into our lives through our mouth and that's why he would do what he did". Often, after worship, pastor Valdeci would take us to the where the funds were kept at the back of the Church and asked us to have Oral sex with him until the Holy Spirit would come through ejaculation".

This is the testimony of one of his victims.

This pastor is already in jail where, he said when they arrested him, that he intends to continue watering his cellmates with his sacred milk.

Read more at http://www.liveleak.com...


Dunno, you tell me, you've fallen for most of Satan's tricks so far.
So have you and he still won't let you into his cult. LOL

You do poor maligned Satan a disservice, he couldn't be as bad as the evil cult MCB has been kicked out of, LOL!
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1/31/2016 2:51:53 PM
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At 1/31/2016 2:44:07 PM, JJ50 wrote:
At 1/31/2016 2:33:40 PM, bulproof wrote:
At 1/31/2016 1:49:59 PM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
At 1/31/2016 12:38:28 PM, JJ50 wrote:
I saw this on another forum and it still amazes me that people can be that gullible, even though I have met many people over the years who believe in the literal truth of the Bible!


An Evangelical Pastor managed to abuse victims after convincing them that his penis contains HOLY MILK. The criminal: Valdeci Sobreni Picano of Brazil.

Valdeci Sobrino Picanto is a Brazilian Evangelical Pastor. He has been arrested after deceiving the faithful using the name of the "Holy Spirit", by using these foolish lies. This criminal pastor claimed that the Holy Spirit would secrete from his penis in the form of "sacred milk". This pastor said that his penis was blessed and that "the Lord had consecrated him with divine milk of the Holy Spirit" and, of course, he had to release it in order to "evangelize".


"He has convinced us that only God could come into our lives through our mouth and that's why he would do what he did". Often, after worship, pastor Valdeci would take us to the where the funds were kept at the back of the Church and asked us to have Oral sex with him until the Holy Spirit would come through ejaculation".

This is the testimony of one of his victims.

This pastor is already in jail where, he said when they arrested him, that he intends to continue watering his cellmates with his sacred milk.

Read more at http://www.liveleak.com...


Dunno, you tell me, you've fallen for most of Satan's tricks so far.
So have you and he still won't let you into his cult. LOL

You do poor maligned Satan a disservice, he couldn't be as bad as the evil cult MCB has been kicked out of, LOL!
mmmm, my hyperbole get's away from me at times JJ. LOL
Religion is just mind control. George Carlin
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1/31/2016 10:06:59 PM
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At 1/31/2016 2:44:07 PM, JJ50 wrote:
At 1/31/2016 2:33:40 PM, bulproof wrote:
At 1/31/2016 1:49:59 PM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
At 1/31/2016 12:38:28 PM, JJ50 wrote:
I saw this on another forum and it still amazes me that people can be that gullible, even though I have met many people over the years who believe in the literal truth of the Bible!


An Evangelical Pastor managed to abuse victims after convincing them that his penis contains HOLY MILK. The criminal: Valdeci Sobreni Picano of Brazil.

Valdeci Sobrino Picanto is a Brazilian Evangelical Pastor. He has been arrested after deceiving the faithful using the name of the "Holy Spirit", by using these foolish lies. This criminal pastor claimed that the Holy Spirit would secrete from his penis in the form of "sacred milk". This pastor said that his penis was blessed and that "the Lord had consecrated him with divine milk of the Holy Spirit" and, of course, he had to release it in order to "evangelize".


"He has convinced us that only God could come into our lives through our mouth and that's why he would do what he did". Often, after worship, pastor Valdeci would take us to the where the funds were kept at the back of the Church and asked us to have Oral sex with him until the Holy Spirit would come through ejaculation".

This is the testimony of one of his victims.

This pastor is already in jail where, he said when they arrested him, that he intends to continue watering his cellmates with his sacred milk.

Read more at http://www.liveleak.com...


Dunno, you tell me, you've fallen for most of Satan's tricks so far.
So have you and he still won't let you into his cult. LOL

You do poor maligned Satan a disservice, he couldn't be as bad as the evil cult MCB has been kicked out of, LOL!

Oh, he is immeasurably worse than God's people.
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1/31/2016 10:08:45 PM
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At 1/31/2016 2:33:05 PM, JJ50 wrote:
At 1/31/2016 1:49:59 PM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
At 1/31/2016 12:38:28 PM, JJ50 wrote:
I saw this on another forum and it still amazes me that people can be that gullible, even though I have met many people over the years who believe in the literal truth of the Bible!


An Evangelical Pastor managed to abuse victims after convincing them that his penis contains HOLY MILK. The criminal: Valdeci Sobreni Picano of Brazil.

Valdeci Sobrino Picanto is a Brazilian Evangelical Pastor. He has been arrested after deceiving the faithful using the name of the "Holy Spirit", by using these foolish lies. This criminal pastor claimed that the Holy Spirit would secrete from his penis in the form of "sacred milk". This pastor said that his penis was blessed and that "the Lord had consecrated him with divine milk of the Holy Spirit" and, of course, he had to release it in order to "evangelize".


"He has convinced us that only God could come into our lives through our mouth and that's why he would do what he did". Often, after worship, pastor Valdeci would take us to the where the funds were kept at the back of the Church and asked us to have Oral sex with him until the Holy Spirit would come through ejaculation".

This is the testimony of one of his victims.

This pastor is already in jail where, he said when they arrested him, that he intends to continue watering his cellmates with his sacred milk.

Read more at http://www.liveleak.com...


Dunno, you tell me, you've fallen for most of Satan's tricks so far.

You are the gullible one if you believe Satan exists as there is no evidence to support his existence!

Oh there is lots of evidence, and you are part of it.
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1/31/2016 10:23:00 PM
Posted: 10 months ago
At 1/31/2016 12:38:28 PM, JJ50 wrote:
I saw this on another forum and it still amazes me that people can be that gullible, even though I have met many people over the years who believe in the literal truth of the Bible!


An Evangelical Pastor managed to abuse victims after convincing them that his penis contains HOLY MILK. The criminal: Valdeci Sobreni Picano of Brazil.

Valdeci Sobrino Picanto is a Brazilian Evangelical Pastor. He has been arrested after deceiving the faithful using the name of the "Holy Spirit", by using these foolish lies. This criminal pastor claimed that the Holy Spirit would secrete from his penis in the form of "sacred milk". This pastor said that his penis was blessed and that "the Lord had consecrated him with divine milk of the Holy Spirit" and, of course, he had to release it in order to "evangelize".


"He has convinced us that only God could come into our lives through our mouth and that's why he would do what he did". Often, after worship, pastor Valdeci would take us to the where the funds were kept at the back of the Church and asked us to have Oral sex with him until the Holy Spirit would come through ejaculation".

This is the testimony of one of his victims.

This pastor is already in jail where, he said when they arrested him, that he intends to continue watering his cellmates with his sacred milk.

Read more at http://www.liveleak.com...


Sick. There are certain people who will use whatever power they have at hand in order to manipulate others, and it doesn't matter whether they are religious, atheist, agnostic or whatever. It is simply their nature to put themselves before others, and all of them should be despised for that, especially ones who claim to represent morality itself. What bothers me is that ALL people are subject to confirmation bias. If anything they see confirms what they already believe then they are more likely to repeat it than if it doesn't.
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2/1/2016 5:57:53 PM
Posted: 10 months ago
At 1/31/2016 1:14:35 PM, JJ50 wrote:
At 1/31/2016 12:56:28 PM, Eliyahu wrote:
At 1/31/2016 12:52:53 PM, Jovian wrote:
At 1/31/2016 12:49:20 PM, Eliyahu wrote:
At 1/31/2016 12:38:28 PM, JJ50 wrote:
IHow can people be that gullible?

Bs"d

I'm also baffled that evolutionists can make people believe that a frog turned into a prince.

WHAT?! Where in tarnation have you heard that story as anything else than a fictional story?

Bs"d

It is the general evolutionistic teaching, even though they might phrase it slightly different.

Like how?

Bs"d

Evo's believe that a cell that could replicate put itself together from some mud.

Then we got spontaneously higher life forms, until the amphibians came around.
(a frog is an amphibian)

And they believe that the amphibian (frog) evolved to a mammal, and from those mammals evolved humans, and among humans we have princes.

See there the frog turning into a prince according to the evo's.
Please be advised that everywhere in your translation of your OT when it is written "the LORD" with all capitals, then in the original Hebrew it says the four lettered name of God: Y-H-W-H. That name appears almost 7000 times in the Hebrew Bible.
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2/1/2016 7:09:07 PM
Posted: 10 months ago
At 2/1/2016 5:57:53 PM, Eliyahu wrote:

Evo's believe that a cell that could replicate put itself together from some mud.

Then we got spontaneously higher life forms, until the amphibians came around.
(a frog is an amphibian)

And they believe that the amphibian (frog) evolved to a mammal, and from those mammals evolved humans, and among humans we have princes.

See there the frog turning into a prince according to the evo's.

Sure, it's easy for the deceptive, dishonest and disingenuous to create fairy tales in order to support other fairy tales and call it science.
Marrying a 6 year old and waiting until she reaches puberty and maturity before having consensual sex is better than walking up to
a stranger in a bar and proceeding to have relations with no valid proof of the intent of the person. Muhammad wins. ~ Fatihah
If they don't want to be killed then they have to subdue to the Islamic laws. - Uncung
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2/1/2016 7:10:46 PM
Posted: 10 months ago
At 1/31/2016 12:38:28 PM, JJ50 wrote:
I saw this on another forum and it still amazes me that people can be that gullible, even though I have met many people over the years who believe in the literal truth of the Bible!


An Evangelical Pastor managed to abuse victims after convincing them that his penis contains HOLY MILK. The criminal: Valdeci Sobreni Picano of Brazil.

Valdeci Sobrino Picanto is a Brazilian Evangelical Pastor. He has been arrested after deceiving the faithful using the name of the "Holy Spirit", by using these foolish lies. This criminal pastor claimed that the Holy Spirit would secrete from his penis in the form of "sacred milk". This pastor said that his penis was blessed and that "the Lord had consecrated him with divine milk of the Holy Spirit" and, of course, he had to release it in order to "evangelize".


"He has convinced us that only God could come into our lives through our mouth and that's why he would do what he did". Often, after worship, pastor Valdeci would take us to the where the funds were kept at the back of the Church and asked us to have Oral sex with him until the Holy Spirit would come through ejaculation".

This is the testimony of one of his victims.

This pastor is already in jail where, he said when they arrested him, that he intends to continue watering his cellmates with his sacred milk.

Read more at http://www.liveleak.com...


If he just asked for a blow job he would not have been arrested. There is no law against oral sex. He could have just as easily blessed his dick with holy water and washed away Satan's influence.
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2/2/2016 12:47:48 AM
Posted: 10 months ago
At 2/1/2016 7:09:07 PM, DanneJeRusse wrote:
At 2/1/2016 5:57:53 PM, Eliyahu wrote:

Evo's believe that a cell that could replicate put itself together from some mud.

Then we got spontaneously higher life forms, until the amphibians came around.
(a frog is an amphibian)

And they believe that the amphibian (frog) evolved to a mammal, and from those mammals evolved humans, and among humans we have princes.

See there the frog turning into a prince according to the evo's.

Sure, it's easy for the deceptive, dishonest and disingenuous to create fairy tales in order to support other fairy tales and call it science.

Yes, like "Evolution".
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2/2/2016 1:51:22 AM
Posted: 10 months ago
At 2/2/2016 12:47:48 AM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
At 2/1/2016 7:09:07 PM, DanneJeRusse wrote:
At 2/1/2016 5:57:53 PM, Eliyahu wrote:

Evo's believe that a cell that could replicate put itself together from some mud.

Then we got spontaneously higher life forms, until the amphibians came around.
(a frog is an amphibian)

And they believe that the amphibian (frog) evolved to a mammal, and from those mammals evolved humans, and among humans we have princes.

See there the frog turning into a prince according to the evo's.

Sure, it's easy for the deceptive, dishonest and disingenuous to create fairy tales in order to support other fairy tales and call it science.

Yes, like "Evolution".

Nah much more like jehovianism.
Religion is just mind control. George Carlin
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2/2/2016 3:15:20 AM
Posted: 10 months ago
At 2/2/2016 12:47:48 AM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
At 2/1/2016 7:09:07 PM, DanneJeRusse wrote:
At 2/1/2016 5:57:53 PM, Eliyahu wrote:

Evo's believe that a cell that could replicate put itself together from some mud.

Then we got spontaneously higher life forms, until the amphibians came around.
(a frog is an amphibian)

And they believe that the amphibian (frog) evolved to a mammal, and from those mammals evolved humans, and among humans we have princes.

See there the frog turning into a prince according to the evo's.

Sure, it's easy for the deceptive, dishonest and disingenuous to create fairy tales in order to support other fairy tales and call it science.

Yes, like "Evolution".

Evolution is science, it is fact, it is the reason you and I and every other living thing are here. Why this is a problem for you is obvious, it jeopardizes your religious beliefs. No one cares, of course, because evolution will go on as a working theory for as long as life is around to understand it, while your religious beliefs will go the way of the dodo. (:

*queue jehovah/satan/doomsday rant*
Marrying a 6 year old and waiting until she reaches puberty and maturity before having consensual sex is better than walking up to
a stranger in a bar and proceeding to have relations with no valid proof of the intent of the person. Muhammad wins. ~ Fatihah
If they don't want to be killed then they have to subdue to the Islamic laws. - Uncung
Without God, you are lower than sh!t. ~ SpiritandTruth
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2/2/2016 4:13:00 AM
Posted: 10 months ago
At 2/2/2016 3:15:20 AM, DanneJeRusse wrote:

Evolution is science, it is fact, it is the reason you and I and every other living thing are here. Why this is a problem for you is obvious, it jeopardizes your religious beliefs. No one cares, of course, because evolution will go on as a working theory for as long as life is around to understand it, while your religious beliefs will go the way of the dodo. (:


Undoubtedly you believe that this present universe of once mindless matter has produced beings with intrinsic ends, self- replication capabilities, and "coded chemistry" in the short 14 billion years since the Big Bang that produced this cycle of universal activity.

Our ancient ancestors expressed the belief that our scientists of today are just beginning to come to terms with, and that is, that following each "Big Bang" there comes the "Big Crunch," when this universe is condensed once again, into the infinitely dense, infinitely hot, infinitesimally small singularity from which it originated.

There is no way whatsoever that the world as it has evolved to today, did so in the short 14 billion years since the last BIG BANG.

Only when we come to the realisation that this generation of the universe, has evolved from a series of parental universal bodies that have preceded this one, will science begin to realise the time scale involved in the evolution of man from mindless matter.

Another universe may have preceded ours, study finds. May 14th, 2006. Courtesy Penn State University and World Science staff.

Three physicists say they have done calculations suggesting that before the birth of our universe, which is expanding, there was an earlier universe that was shrinking. The results stem from a +theory that claims the fabric of space and time is made up of minuscule, indivisible bits, much as matter is. Scientists believe our cosmos began in a sort of explosion called the Big Bang, when everything that exists---which had previously been packed into one infinitely dense point---burst outward. The universe is still expanding according to this view, because it was born expanding.

According to some proposals, the Big Bang is a repeating cycle. Universes might expand, then shrink back to a point, then expand again. Thus the "Bang" would be really more like a bounce. The idea is appealing in some ways, but scientists have found it far from easy to test. Einstein"s Theory of Relativity, a key basis for the Big Bang theory, is silent on what happened before that event.

"General relativity can be used to describe the universe back to a point at which matter becomes so dense that it"s equations don"t hold up," said Abhay Ashtekar, director of the Gravitational Physics and Geometry at Penn State University in University Park, Penn.

To go further, physicists must use tools Einstein didn"t have, he added. Ashtekar and two post-doctoral researchers developed such tools through a combination of Quantum physics- the science of subatomic particles"and general relativity, which describes the large-scale structure of space and time. They found that before the Big Bang, there was a contracting universe. Other than the fact it was shrinking, they added, it was similar to ours in terms of the geometry of its space and time, or spacetime, as cosmologists call it since Einstein found the two are interwoven.

"In place of a classical Big Bang there is in fact a quantum bounce," said Ashtekar. "We were so surprised by the finding," he added, that the team repeated the calculations for months to include different possible values of some numbers representing the current universe. But the results kept pointing to a bounce. The findings appear in the current issue of the research journal Physical Review Letters.

While the general idea of another, pre-Big Bang universe isn"t new, Ashtekar said, this is the first mathematical study that systematically establishes its existence and deduces properties of its spacetime geometry. The notion that spacetime has a geometry involves the idea that it can be curved or flat. A "flat" spacetime is one in which geometry works as we normally expect; for example, parallel lines never meet. But Einstein found that material objects deform this flatness, introducing curvature.

To arrive at their pre-existing universe finding, Ashtekar"s group used loop quantum gravity, a theory that seeks to reconcile General relativity with quantum physics. These two seemingly fundamental theories are otherwise contradictory in some ways. Loop quantum gravity, which was pioneered at Ashtekar"s institute, proposes that spacetime has a discrete "atomic" structure, as opposed to being a continuous sheet, as Einstein, along with most us, assumed. In loop quantum gravity, space is thought of as woven from one-dimensional "threads." The continuum picture remains mostly valid as an approximation. But near the Big Bang, this fabric is violently torn so that it"s discrete, or quantum, nature becomes important. One outcome of this is that gravity becomes repulsive instead of attractive, Ashetkar argued; the result is the Big Bounce.

Just as the Big Bang theory has been evolving over the years and is continuing to evolve as new data becomes available, these big Crunch theories that are just beginning to emerge are still in their infancy. I would rather a theory which states that there are many galactic clusters out there within the boundless cosmos, each cluster in its own position in Space-time, consisting of billions of Galaxies falling inward toward a Great Abyss, Black Hole, or Bottomless Pit, where it is torn to pieces molecule by molecule, atom by atom, sub-atomic particle by sub-atomic particle, and reconverted into the electromagnetic energy from which they were created and accelerated along the dark worm hole to speeds far, far in excess of the speed of light, where that liquid like Electro-magnetic energy is spewed out in the trillions of degrees, somewhere far beyond the visible horizon of the eternal and boundless cosmos, where, from the cooling quantum of that electromagnetic energy a new universe is created, or rather, the old universe is resurrected, to which the light from its old position in space-time, would take billions upon billions of years to reach it.

According to the ancient cultures, we live in an eternal oscillating universe that expands outward and contracts back to its beginning in space time, which is the BEGINNING of this three dimensional universe, taking with it all the information gathered in each cycle of physical manifestation, a living universal being who is all that exists, and in who, all that is, exists. A living universal being who exists in the two states of visible matter and invisible energy.

An eternal being who began as energy which cannot be created or destroyed, but can and is converted into matter only to be reconverted into energy.

"Universe after universe is like an interminable succession of wheels forever coming into view, forever rolling onwards, disappearing and reappearing; forever passing from being to non being, and again from non being to being. In short, the constant revolving of the wheel of life in one eternal cycle, according to fixed and immutable laws, is perhaps after all the sum and substance of the philosophy of Buddhism. And this eternal wheel has so to speak, six spokes representing six forms of existence." ---- Mon. Williams, Buddhism, pp. 229, 122.

To be continued.
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2/2/2016 4:19:17 AM
Posted: 10 months ago
Continued from post #27.

The days and nights of Brahma are called Manvantara, or the cycle of manifestation, "The Great Day," which is a period of universal activity, that is preceded, and also followed by "Pralaya," a dark period, which to our finite minds seems as an eternity. "Manvantara," is a creative day as seen in the six days of creation in Genesis, "Pralaya," is the evening that proceeds the next creative day. The six periods of Creation and the seventh day of rest in which we now exist are referred to in the book of Genesis as the "GENERATIONS OF THE UNIVERSE."

The English word "Generation," is translated from the Hebrew "toledoth" which is used in the Old Testament in every instance as "births," or "descendants," such as "These are the generations of Adam," or "these are the generations of Abraham, and Genesis 2: 4; These are the generations of the Universe or the heavens and earth, etc. And the "Great Day" in which the seven generations of the universe are eternally repeated, is the eternal cosmic period, or the eighth eternal day in which those who attain to perfection are allowed to enter, where they shall be surrounded by great light and they shall experience eternal peace, while those who do not attain to perfection are cast back into the refining fires of the seven physical cycles that perpetually revolve within the eighth eternal cosmic cycle, the endless cycles of death and rebirth.

A series of worlds following one upon the other,-- each world rising a step higher than the previous world, so that every later world brings to ripeness the seeds that were imbedded in the former, and itself then prepares the seed for the universe that will follow it.

This is the true resurrection in which all from the previous cycle of universal activity, who still have the judgmental war raging within them, are born again into the cycles of physical manifestation.

Those scientists who are beginning to come to terms with the Big Crunch theory, believe that this universe has another 300 billion years to go before the next Big Crunch, If that is correct, then this universal being is only an infant and has not yet brought to ripeness the seeds that were imbedded in it from the previous universal body, in which light beings evolved from mankind and which universe still exists out there in space-time.

So you hold the unrealistic view that this present universe of once mindless matter has produced beings with intrinsic ends, self- replication capabilities, and "coded chemistry" in the short period of some 14 billion years, while we believe that God who is all that exists and in all that exists, who began as energy, which is converted to a material universal body, which is then reconverted to the eternal energy, taking with it all the information that is gathered in each cycle of physical activity.

And we believe that the Supreme Personality of Godhead, within the Logos, is "THE LIGHT OF MAN" that which is born of mankind, all the knowledge, wisdom and insight gained from the body of mankind, which body took countless periods of universal activity to evolve.
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2/2/2016 5:54:57 AM
Posted: 10 months ago
At 2/2/2016 4:43:03 AM, Ramshutu wrote:
At 2/2/2016 4:19:17 AM, Gentorev wrote:

... And nothing you said there has anything to do with Evolution.

The eternal energy which can neither be created or destroyed, which is converted to matter only to be reconverted to energy, has evolved to be the God of today, who is all that exists and in all that exists, he is the same today as he always was, he is the only true constant in that he is constantly evolving.

With the close of each period of Universal activity, the "MOST HIGH" to have evolved within that cycle, enters into the energy being as the Supreme Personality of Godhead.