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2/7/2016 4:22:49 PM
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The human race is continuing to evolve, both physically and intellectually. And the factors driving this evolution are no longer merely those arising from our 'natural' environment, such as competition for food, resources or the finding of a mate to propagate our genes. There are also drivers in our 'unnatural', man-made environment, such as human culture and technologies, that are subtley influencing our evolution and selecting some traits and behaviours for surivival over others. It is likely that these artifical evolutionary forces will become ever more dominant in mankind's future.
Could we ever evolve sufficiently to become 'godlike'? It depends what you mean by godlike. But it probably involves elements of omniscience and omnipotence.
The only absolute limits on our knowledge and power are those imposed by the unbreakable laws of physics. Any kind of knowledge or technology that is not expressly forbidden by those laws is, in principle, possible. It is then simply a matter of using our human ingenuity to use that knowledge and technology in creative ways.
Would the distant descendants of mankind, in the far future, appear to have godlike knowledge and power compared to ourselves? Well, considering that 21st century man would probably appear godlike to our ancient ancestors, it is quite probable, assuming the current trajectory of scientific progress and human development continues in the same direction, that our distant descendants will appear godlike to us.
And this is a possible response to religious people who ask atheists to explain why they don't believe God exists - 'Because the position is currently vacant, and we aren't ready to fill it ourselves just yet. But give us a few more millennia and we well might...'
Obviously, the same can probably be said for any intelligent life in the universe, so it is quite possible (or even a certainty, according to some thinkers) that there are older, more advanced civilizations than ours somewhere out there that have already achieved a godlike state of knowledge and technological power. Some scientists and sci-fi writers refer to this ultimate stage of the evolution of a civilization as 'transcendence'.
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2/7/2016 4:52:20 PM
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We don't fear evolution because it can't be taken seriously and has lost all credability
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2/7/2016 4:52:39 PM
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Ambulocetus and Rotocetus

http://www.amnh.org...

The Science of Ambulocetus Rodhocetus

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"Atheism and Paleontology"

http://atheism.wikia.com...
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2/7/2016 4:54:49 PM
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Cambrian explosion
The Cambrian explosion, or less commonly Cambrian radiation, was the relatively short evolutionary event, beginning around 542 million years ago in the Cambrian Period, during which most major animal phyla appeared, as indicated by the fossil record.

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2/7/2016 5:08:39 PM
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At 2/7/2016 5:05:50 PM, JJ50 wrote:
Not all Christians disbelieve in evolution, only the Biblical literalists!

False dichotomy

I'm not a literalist, and I don't believe in evolution.
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2/7/2016 5:16:28 PM
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300 million year old insects look like well...1 month old insects.

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2/7/2016 5:57:51 PM
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I doubt that Christians fear evolution because we might become as gods.

Nature is wonderful, complex and beautiful and it is natural to think that the world was put together consciously and deliberately by a creator god. I can well believe that some people don't accept evolution - because evolution is pretty unbelievable, and the more you learn about the details of biology the more unbelievable it becomes. How can a egg-laying species become viviparous one? Isn't it mind-blowing that a baby can be produced in a womb?

Surely such things need a god to make them work! It's tempting to think so and - for some people - it is so obvious and self-evident that a god is necessary that anything else appears as a strange illogical abberation. Believing in evolution seem just as illogical and strange to a believer as creationism does to a Darwinist.

So in my view, 'Christians fear evolution' (if that is a good way to express it) because they honestly believe it is an illogical aberration.
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2/7/2016 6:53:14 PM
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At 2/7/2016 4:22:49 PM, missmedic wrote:
The human race is continuing to evolve, both physically and intellectually. And the factors driving this evolution are no longer merely those arising from our 'natural' environment, such as competition for food, resources or the finding of a mate to propagate our genes. There are also drivers in our 'unnatural', man-made environment, such as human culture and technologies, that are subtley influencing our evolution and selecting some traits and behaviours for surivival over others. It is likely that these artifical evolutionary forces will become ever more dominant in mankind's future.
Could we ever evolve sufficiently to become 'godlike'? It depends what you mean by godlike. But it probably involves elements of omniscience and omnipotence.
The only absolute limits on our knowledge and power are those imposed by the unbreakable laws of physics. Any kind of knowledge or technology that is not expressly forbidden by those laws is, in principle, possible. It is then simply a matter of using our human ingenuity to use that knowledge and technology in creative ways.
Would the distant descendants of mankind, in the far future, appear to have godlike knowledge and power compared to ourselves? Well, considering that 21st century man would probably appear godlike to our ancient ancestors, it is quite probable, assuming the current trajectory of scientific progress and human development continues in the same direction, that our distant descendants will appear godlike to us.
And this is a possible response to religious people who ask atheists to explain why they don't believe God exists - 'Because the position is currently vacant, and we aren't ready to fill it ourselves just yet. But give us a few more millennia and we well might...'
Obviously, the same can probably be said for any intelligent life in the universe, so it is quite possible (or even a certainty, according to some thinkers) that there are older, more advanced civilizations than ours somewhere out there that have already achieved a godlike state of knowledge and technological power. Some scientists and sci-fi writers refer to this ultimate stage of the evolution of a civilization as 'transcendence'.

Because the evidence for creationism is more compelling.
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2/7/2016 6:57:09 PM
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At 2/7/2016 4:52:20 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
We don't fear evolution because it can't be taken seriously and has lost all credability

How has evolution lost its credibility? I would guess that a belief in a 6000 year old Earth is far less credible than the belief that humanity evolved over time.
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2/7/2016 7:00:40 PM
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At 2/7/2016 6:57:09 PM, bballcrook21 wrote:
At 2/7/2016 4:52:20 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
We don't fear evolution because it can't be taken seriously and has lost all credability

How has evolution lost its credibility? I would guess that a belief in a 6000 year old Earth is far less credible than the belief that humanity evolved over time.

False dichotomy

I don't believe the world is 6,000 years old, nor does the Bible support the argument
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2/7/2016 7:02:12 PM
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At 2/7/2016 6:57:09 PM, bballcrook21 wrote:
At 2/7/2016 4:52:20 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
We don't fear evolution because it can't be taken seriously and has lost all credability

How has evolution lost its credibility? I would guess that a belief in a 6000 year old Earth is far less credible than the belief that humanity evolved over time.

Here's why
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2/7/2016 7:03:08 PM
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300 million year old creatures look the same as they do today

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2/7/2016 7:04:33 PM
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The science of whale evolution

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2/7/2016 7:05:18 PM
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Cambrian explosion
The Cambrian explosion, or less commonly Cambrian radiation, was the relatively short evolutionary event, beginning around 542 million years ago in the Cambrian Period, during which most major animal phyla appeared, as indicated by the fossil record.

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2/7/2016 7:07:26 PM
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At 2/7/2016 7:00:40 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 2/7/2016 6:57:09 PM, bballcrook21 wrote:
At 2/7/2016 4:52:20 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
We don't fear evolution because it can't be taken seriously and has lost all credability

How has evolution lost its credibility? I would guess that a belief in a 6000 year old Earth is far less credible than the belief that humanity evolved over time.

False dichotomy

I don't believe the world is 6,000 years old, nor does the Bible support the argument

Then what do you believe? I would assume that you support Creationism to its fullest, right?

I'm not trying to argue here, just want to have a discussion. I'm open to both points of view.
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2/7/2016 7:18:43 PM
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At 2/7/2016 6:53:14 PM, Jerry947 wrote:
At 2/7/2016 4:22:49 PM, missmedic wrote:
The human race is continuing to evolve, both physically and intellectually. And the factors driving this evolution are no longer merely those arising from our 'natural' environment, such as competition for food, resources or the finding of a mate to propagate our genes. There are also drivers in our 'unnatural', man-made environment, such as human culture and technologies, that are subtley influencing our evolution and selecting some traits and behaviours for surivival over others. It is likely that these artifical evolutionary forces will become ever more dominant in mankind's future.
Could we ever evolve sufficiently to become 'godlike'? It depends what you mean by godlike. But it probably involves elements of omniscience and omnipotence.
The only absolute limits on our knowledge and power are those imposed by the unbreakable laws of physics. Any kind of knowledge or technology that is not expressly forbidden by those laws is, in principle, possible. It is then simply a matter of using our human ingenuity to use that knowledge and technology in creative ways.
Would the distant descendants of mankind, in the far future, appear to have godlike knowledge and power compared to ourselves? Well, considering that 21st century man would probably appear godlike to our ancient ancestors, it is quite probable, assuming the current trajectory of scientific progress and human development continues in the same direction, that our distant descendants will appear godlike to us.
And this is a possible response to religious people who ask atheists to explain why they don't believe God exists - 'Because the position is currently vacant, and we aren't ready to fill it ourselves just yet. But give us a few more millennia and we well might...'
Obviously, the same can probably be said for any intelligent life in the universe, so it is quite possible (or even a certainty, according to some thinkers) that there are older, more advanced civilizations than ours somewhere out there that have already achieved a godlike state of knowledge and technological power. Some scientists and sci-fi writers refer to this ultimate stage of the evolution of a civilization as 'transcendence'.

Because the evidence for creationism is more compelling.

Disprove carbon dating.
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2/7/2016 7:18:43 PM
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At 2/7/2016 4:22:49 PM, missmedic wrote:
The human race is continuing to evolve, both physically and intellectually. And the factors driving this evolution are no longer merely those arising from our 'natural' environment, such as competition for food, resources or the finding of a mate to propagate our genes. There are also drivers in our 'unnatural', man-made environment, such as human culture and technologies, that are subtley influencing our evolution and selecting some traits and behaviours for surivival over others. It is likely that these artifical evolutionary forces will become ever more dominant in mankind's future.
Could we ever evolve sufficiently to become 'godlike'? It depends what you mean by godlike. But it probably involves elements of omniscience and omnipotence.
The only absolute limits on our knowledge and power are those imposed by the unbreakable laws of physics. Any kind of knowledge or technology that is not expressly forbidden by those laws is, in principle, possible. It is then simply a matter of using our human ingenuity to use that knowledge and technology in creative ways.
Would the distant descendants of mankind, in the far future, appear to have godlike knowledge and power compared to ourselves? Well, considering that 21st century man would probably appear godlike to our ancient ancestors, it is quite probable, assuming the current trajectory of scientific progress and human development continues in the same direction, that our distant descendants will appear godlike to us.
And this is a possible response to religious people who ask atheists to explain why they don't believe God exists - 'Because the position is currently vacant, and we aren't ready to fill it ourselves just yet. But give us a few more millennia and we well might...'
Obviously, the same can probably be said for any intelligent life in the universe, so it is quite possible (or even a certainty, according to some thinkers) that there are older, more advanced civilizations than ours somewhere out there that have already achieved a godlike state of knowledge and technological power. Some scientists and sci-fi writers refer to this ultimate stage of the evolution of a civilization as 'transcendence'.

Interesting topic and my opinion is that yes, humans will evolve far past where we are now, eventually becoming unhuman.

There is a phenomenon known as the Flynn Effect which shows that the average IQ in a human population increases by 3 points every 10 years. Its a controversial subject because in recent decades, the increases have slowed but it is speculated that it might have something to do with a recent inverse correlation between IQ and fertility and/or increased genetic mixing of immigrants from countries with lower national average IQs. https://en.wikipedia.org...

Could a consequence of rising IQs contribute to a decrease in religiosity? It has been shown that increased critical thinking abilities correlate to rejection of faith. (Before any Christians get pissed off, I concede there are some highly intelligent Christians and some stupid atheists). https://en.wikipedia.org...

University of Washington researchers have found a way to connect human brains by "wiring" them together, allowing them to communicate. What would the implications be of a human "hive mind"? What would happen if humans could instantaneously access all human knowledge (including evolution, of course)? Would it impact empathy for others? http://www.dailydot.com...
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2/7/2016 7:19:29 PM
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At 2/7/2016 7:07:26 PM, bballcrook21 wrote:
At 2/7/2016 7:00:40 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 2/7/2016 6:57:09 PM, bballcrook21 wrote:
At 2/7/2016 4:52:20 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
We don't fear evolution because it can't be taken seriously and has lost all credability

How has evolution lost its credibility? I would guess that a belief in a 6000 year old Earth is far less credible than the belief that humanity evolved over time.

False dichotomy

I don't believe the world is 6,000 years old, nor does the Bible support the argument

Then what do you believe? I would assume that you support Creationism to its fullest, right?

I'm not trying to argue here, just want to have a discussion. I'm open to both points of view.

I believe in creationism. I view it as God outside of our reality. I compare this to a computer game programmer existing outside of the world lying inside of the game.

I philosophically reject Atheism intellectually on a few principles.

Causality. Everything in our reality has a cause. We would get into infinite causality with Atheism. The reason for the reason for the reason for the reason...infinitely.

Infinite reality and time theory:
If this wete reality everything has happened, is happening, and will happen again, infinitely. In this model one must accept that in infinite time and space infinite twin you's exist. Eventually in infinity the darwinian evolution model would hit the jackpot over and over and over infinitely. We then must accept that it created greater beings than us, then greater than that, greater, and greater, infinitely until we have supreme being(s) that are beyond our understanding.

Finite universe theory:
With this reality has boundries. So imagine a basketball that exists inside of well...nothing.

These philosophical ideas are a paradox.

The only nonparadox answer is someone with no cause. This can only exist beyond our reality like the programmer outside the video game world.
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2/7/2016 7:26:16 PM
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At 2/7/2016 7:18:43 PM, Jovian wrote:
At 2/7/2016 6:53:14 PM, Jerry947 wrote:
At 2/7/2016 4:22:49 PM, missmedic wrote:
The human race is continuing to evolve, both physically and intellectually. And the factors driving this evolution are no longer merely those arising from our 'natural' environment, such as competition for food, resources or the finding of a mate to propagate our genes. There are also drivers in our 'unnatural', man-made environment, such as human culture and technologies, that are subtley influencing our evolution and selecting some traits and behaviours for surivival over others. It is likely that these artifical evolutionary forces will become ever more dominant in mankind's future.
Could we ever evolve sufficiently to become 'godlike'? It depends what you mean by godlike. But it probably involves elements of omniscience and omnipotence.
The only absolute limits on our knowledge and power are those imposed by the unbreakable laws of physics. Any kind of knowledge or technology that is not expressly forbidden by those laws is, in principle, possible. It is then simply a matter of using our human ingenuity to use that knowledge and technology in creative ways.
Would the distant descendants of mankind, in the far future, appear to have godlike knowledge and power compared to ourselves? Well, considering that 21st century man would probably appear godlike to our ancient ancestors, it is quite probable, assuming the current trajectory of scientific progress and human development continues in the same direction, that our distant descendants will appear godlike to us.
And this is a possible response to religious people who ask atheists to explain why they don't believe God exists - 'Because the position is currently vacant, and we aren't ready to fill it ourselves just yet. But give us a few more millennia and we well might...'
Obviously, the same can probably be said for any intelligent life in the universe, so it is quite possible (or even a certainty, according to some thinkers) that there are older, more advanced civilizations than ours somewhere out there that have already achieved a godlike state of knowledge and technological power. Some scientists and sci-fi writers refer to this ultimate stage of the evolution of a civilization as 'transcendence'.

Because the evidence for creationism is more compelling.

Disprove carbon dating.

Don't see why I have to...but the dating method assumes that the amounts of 14C to 12C in the atmosphere have always been the same as it is today (1 to 1 trillion). In other words, I do not accept these dates that Carbon 14 provided because they are based on assumptions that may not be correct.
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2/7/2016 7:30:49 PM
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At 2/7/2016 7:18:43 PM, matt8800 wrote:
At 2/7/2016 4:22:49 PM, missmedic wrote:
The human race is continuing to evolve, both physically and intellectually. And the factors driving this evolution are no longer merely those arising from our 'natural' environment, such as competition for food, resources or the finding of a mate to propagate our genes. There are also drivers in our 'unnatural', man-made environment, such as human culture and technologies, that are subtley influencing our evolution and selecting some traits and behaviours for surivival over others. It is likely that these artifical evolutionary forces will become ever more dominant in mankind's future.
Could we ever evolve sufficiently to become 'godlike'? It depends what you mean by godlike. But it probably involves elements of omniscience and omnipotence.
The only absolute limits on our knowledge and power are those imposed by the unbreakable laws of physics. Any kind of knowledge or technology that is not expressly forbidden by those laws is, in principle, possible. It is then simply a matter of using our human ingenuity to use that knowledge and technology in creative ways.
Would the distant descendants of mankind, in the far future, appear to have godlike knowledge and power compared to ourselves? Well, considering that 21st century man would probably appear godlike to our ancient ancestors, it is quite probable, assuming the current trajectory of scientific progress and human development continues in the same direction, that our distant descendants will appear godlike to us.
And this is a possible response to religious people who ask atheists to explain why they don't believe God exists - 'Because the position is currently vacant, and we aren't ready to fill it ourselves just yet. But give us a few more millennia and we well might...'
Obviously, the same can probably be said for any intelligent life in the universe, so it is quite possible (or even a certainty, according to some thinkers) that there are older, more advanced civilizations than ours somewhere out there that have already achieved a godlike state of knowledge and technological power. Some scientists and sci-fi writers refer to this ultimate stage of the evolution of a civilization as 'transcendence'.

Interesting topic and my opinion is that yes, humans will evolve far past where we are now, eventually becoming unhuman.

There is a phenomenon known as the Flynn Effect which shows that the average IQ in a human population increases by 3 points every 10 years. Its a controversial subject because in recent decades, the increases have slowed but it is speculated that it might have something to do with a recent inverse correlation between IQ and fertility and/or increased genetic mixing of immigrants from countries with lower national average IQs. https://en.wikipedia.org...

Could a consequence of rising IQs contribute to a decrease in religiosity? It has been shown that increased critical thinking abilities correlate to rejection of faith. (Before any Christians get pissed off, I concede there are some highly intelligent Christians and some stupid atheists). https://en.wikipedia.org...

University of Washington researchers have found a way to connect human brains by "wiring" them together, allowing them to communicate. What would the implications be of a human "hive mind"? What would happen if humans could instantaneously access all human knowledge (including evolution, of course)? Would it impact empathy for others? http://www.dailydot.com...

Do you trust the smart with such a question or the brilliant?
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2/7/2016 7:31:36 PM
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Of top 10 IQ's 8 are Theists, 6 Christian

http://www.examiner.com...
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2/7/2016 7:33:40 PM
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High IQ's

http://www.abovetopsecret.com...
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2/7/2016 7:37:26 PM
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Also, environmental pressures increase the rate of evolution. There is no reason to believe that population growth is going stop any time soon. Combine that with dwindling resources and increasing global temperatures and something big is going to happen.

I predict that it will not be equal sharing of misery. I believe the strong will survive and the strongest will not be impacted as much as some may think. Weaker populations will be F'd in the A.

There are already a few cities in the middle east that are nearing temperatures that would render them uninhabitable. More refugees anyone? How will developed countries react when their resources are dwindling also? http://www.theguardian.com...
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2/7/2016 7:40:05 PM
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Atheists or Christians? (Or Jews?)

https://www.washingtonpost.com...
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2/7/2016 7:41:22 PM
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At 2/7/2016 7:37:26 PM, matt8800 wrote:
Also, environmental pressures increase the rate of evolution. There is no reason to believe that population growth is going stop any time soon. Combine that with dwindling resources and increasing global temperatures and something big is going to happen.

I predict that it will not be equal sharing of misery. I believe the strong will survive and the strongest will not be impacted as much as some may think. Weaker populations will be F'd in the A.

There are already a few cities in the middle east that are nearing temperatures that would render them uninhabitable. More refugees anyone? How will developed countries react when their resources are dwindling also? http://www.theguardian.com...

Armageddon?
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2/7/2016 7:46:21 PM
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At 2/7/2016 7:37:26 PM, matt8800 wrote:
Also, environmental pressures increase the rate of evolution. There is no reason to believe that population growth is going stop any time soon. Combine that with dwindling resources and increasing global temperatures and something big is going to happen.

I predict that it will not be equal sharing of misery. I believe the strong will survive and the strongest will not be impacted as much as some may think. Weaker populations will be F'd in the A.

There are already a few cities in the middle east that are nearing temperatures that would render them uninhabitable. More refugees anyone? How will developed countries react when their resources are dwindling also? http://www.theguardian.com...

Sounds familiar to me...
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2/7/2016 7:46:46 PM
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"The law of selection justifies this incessant struggle, by allowing the survival of the fittest." Christianity is a rebellion against natural law, a protest against nature." Taken to its logical extreme, Christianity would mean the systematic cultivation of the human failure."

-Adolph Hitler

www.simpletoremember.com/articles/a/hitler-quotes
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2/7/2016 7:49:20 PM
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At 2/7/2016 5:08:39 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 2/7/2016 5:05:50 PM, JJ50 wrote:
Not all Christians disbelieve in evolution, only the Biblical literalists!
False dichotomy
You're right, Bronto. Miss M neglected to point out that evolution is also readily disbelieved by the ignorant, conceited and paranoid.
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2/7/2016 7:51:06 PM
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At 2/7/2016 7:49:20 PM, RuvDraba wrote:
At 2/7/2016 5:08:39 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 2/7/2016 5:05:50 PM, JJ50 wrote:
Not all Christians disbelieve in evolution, only the Biblical literalists!
False dichotomy
You're right, Bronto. Miss M neglected to point out that evolution is also readily disbelieved by the ignorant, conceited and paranoid.

You must have missed the Cambrian explodion and the walking whale video.
"What Donald Trump is doing is representing the absolute heartbreak, and anger, and frustration at a government gone mad."

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