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Some things that the JWs Believe

Peternosaint
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2/9/2016 9:10:32 AM
Posted: 10 months ago
The purpose of the creation of man and woman on earth is explained in Genesis and it was for them to remain a perfect pair and go forth, multiply and fill the earth. The earth would be like Eden with the care of the humans (Eden means Paradise).

Humans were meant to live forever on this Paradise earth, they were not given immortality, why would they need a indestructible soul if they were not going to die?

If something is immortal it cannot be destroyed, making one thing the Jehovah could not do, and that is against all the powers of the Almighty.

We know that it did not work out that way, but Jehovah is not one to go back on his word. If He did it would look like He was admitting that it was not a good idea in the first place.

The righteous of the world, from Able onwards, will still have the offer of everlasting life on a Paradise earth. Man was not designed to go to heaven or the fictitious Hell, and that is not man's lot for the near future.

To be continued:
Gentorev
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2/9/2016 9:50:11 AM
Posted: 10 months ago
At 2/9/2016 9:10:32 AM, Peternosaint wrote:
The purpose of the creation of man and woman on earth is explained in Genesis and it was for them to remain a perfect pair and go forth, multiply and fill the earth. The earth would be like Eden with the care of the humans (Eden means Paradise).

Humans were meant to live forever on this Paradise earth, they were not given immortality, why would they need a indestructible soul if they were not going to die?

If something is immortal it cannot be destroyed, making one thing the Jehovah could not do, and that is against all the powers of the Almighty.

We know that it did not work out that way, but Jehovah is not one to go back on his word. If He did it would look like He was admitting that it was not a good idea in the first place.

The righteous of the world, from Able onwards, will still have the offer of everlasting life on a Paradise earth. Man was not designed to go to heaven or the fictitious Hell, and that is not man's lot for the near future.

To be continued:

No Physical body can live forever in its physical form, not even the physical universal body.

1 Corinthians 15:42-50. New International Version (NIV)

42 So will it be with the resurrection of the dead. The body that is sown is perishable, it is raised imperishable; 43 it is sown in dishonour, it is raised in glory; it is sown in weakness, it is raised in power; 44 it is sown a natural body, it is raised a spiritual body.
If there is a natural body, there is also a spiritual body.

45 So it is written: "The first man Adam became a living being" the last Adam, a life-giving spirit. 46 The spiritual did not come first, but the natural, and after that the spiritual. 47 The first man was of the dust of the earth; the second man is of heaven. 48 As was the earthly man, so are those who are of the earth; and as is the heavenly man, so also are those who are of heaven. 49 And just as we have borne the image of the earthly man, so shall we bear the image of the heavenly man.

50 I declare to you, brothers and sisters, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God, nor does the perishable inherit the imperishable.
JJ50
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2/9/2016 11:14:23 AM
Posted: 10 months ago
At 2/9/2016 9:10:32 AM, Peternosaint wrote:
The purpose of the creation of man and woman on earth is explained in Genesis and it was for them to remain a perfect pair and go forth, multiply and fill the earth. The earth would be like Eden with the care of the humans (Eden means Paradise).

Humans were meant to live forever on this Paradise earth, they were not given immortality, why would they need a indestructible soul if they were not going to die?

If something is immortal it cannot be destroyed, making one thing the Jehovah could not do, and that is against all the powers of the Almighty.

We know that it did not work out that way, but Jehovah is not one to go back on his word. If He did it would look like He was admitting that it was not a good idea in the first place.

The righteous of the world, from Able onwards, will still have the offer of everlasting life on a Paradise earth. Man was not designed to go to heaven or the fictitious Hell, and that is not man's lot for the near future.

To be continued:

Don't bother it is just GARBAGE!
graceofgod
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2/9/2016 6:16:58 PM
Posted: 10 months ago
At 2/9/2016 9:10:32 AM, Peternosaint wrote:
The purpose of the creation of man and woman on earth is explained in Genesis and it was for them to remain a perfect pair and go forth, multiply and fill the earth. The earth would be like Eden with the care of the humans (Eden means Paradise).

Humans were meant to live forever on this Paradise earth, they were not given immortality, why would they need a indestructible soul if they were not going to die?

If something is immortal it cannot be destroyed, making one thing the Jehovah could not do, and that is against all the powers of the Almighty.

We know that it did not work out that way, but Jehovah is not one to go back on his word. If He did it would look like He was admitting that it was not a good idea in the first place.

The righteous of the world, from Able onwards, will still have the offer of everlasting life on a Paradise earth. Man was not designed to go to heaven or the fictitious Hell, and that is not man's lot for the near future.

To be continued:

you missed the fun bits like
jesus was really michael the angel in the body of Jesus..
michael is the only begotten son of God
michael is the word of God
michael is the Christ
michael returned to the earth invisibly in 1914....
the world has ended several times, they know because God told them...
Peternosaint
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2/10/2016 12:16:13 AM
Posted: 10 months ago
I am not going to reply to any posts, as this is not a post for the ones that have their own beliefs, it is simply to let people know what the JWs actually believe.

I would suggest you save you rancor, your bile, your sheer hate filled biliousness, and your inaccurate assumptions for another time.

Thank you for your understanding.
Peternosaint
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2/10/2016 12:25:10 AM
Posted: 10 months ago
Adam and eve were given the ability of free choice. This is to say they were not created as robots with no thoughts of their own. Adam was given the task of naming all the animals and vegetation in the Paradise garden called Eden, and he exercised his free choice in carrying out this task. Adam also chose Eve's name.

Satan, who was afraid to show himself as he was, disguised himself as a serpent, the serpent was not a fearsome reptile like it has become at that time, and was consider to be a beautiful addition to the garden.

Using his persuasive powers, he tempted Eve and succeeded and Eve then tempted Adam and succeeded, thus the first lie came form the inventor of the lie, Satan, and sin entered the world through the first human creation.

To be continued...

PS: The only one I will allow in this post is MCB, who may, if he wished to put in cooperating scriptures and to correct anything that needs correcting.

Thank you for your kind considerations. Satan or his disciples are not invited even though they will intrude anyway.
graceofgod
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2/10/2016 10:05:34 AM
Posted: 10 months ago
At 2/10/2016 12:16:13 AM, Peternosaint wrote:
I am not going to reply to any posts, as this is not a post for the ones that have their own beliefs, it is simply to let people know what the JWs actually believe.

I would suggest you save you rancor, your bile, your sheer hate filled biliousness, and your inaccurate assumptions for another time.

Thank you for your understanding.

could you tell me what the jw's believed about Beth Sarim please.............
Peternosaint
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2/10/2016 9:27:41 PM
Posted: 10 months ago
The Jw's believe that the promise for mankind, a paradise earth is still Jehovah's purpose, and after He deals with the wickedness and Satan he will restore the earth to an earthly paradise where man w ill work and receive the benefits of his work, not work and others reap the benefits. There will be the Love that God, and Jesus have said must be the action of the true believers and followers.

The Jws believe that there will be a resurrection of the righteous and the unrighteous after Armageddon and there will be a judging at the end of the thousand years. satan will be bound for that thousand years to be released for a short time to again tempt the world population. Satan then will be destroyed, he and his angels are not immortal, and will not live on forever tormenting others as most of Christendom tries to tell its congregations.

Jws believe and understand that there are many prophetic parallels in the bible that tell of future events, right up to the present time and after. Christendom do not recognize these prophecies, nor would they understand them as Jehovah is releasing His information to those that seek the truth.

Jws believe that there will only be a selected number of humans that will be in he heavenly realm, acting as kings and priests under Jesus' instruction in the Heavenly Kingdom. This number is shown as 144,000 in Revelation. A few of these selected ones are still on earth and are the governing body of the Jws, They receive information from God and pass it on to all the faithful servants of Jehovah.

To be continued.....