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brontoraptor
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2/17/2016 9:17:32 PM
Posted: 9 months ago
Would you rather be under the 10 commandments or the Sharia if there was no choice?
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2/17/2016 9:19:38 PM
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At 2/17/2016 9:17:32 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
Would you rather be under the 10 commandments or the Sharia if there was no choice?

The ten commandments.
DanMGTOW
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2/17/2016 9:28:47 PM
Posted: 9 months ago
At 2/17/2016 9:17:32 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
Would you rather be under the 10 commandments or the Sharia if there was no choice?

neither, since both are screwed up
i love reading the 10 commandments since the jewish god forgot to add rape and slavery to the list of what not to do
RuvDraba
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2/17/2016 10:27:57 PM
Posted: 9 months ago
At 2/17/2016 9:17:32 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
Would you rather be under the 10 commandments or the Sharia if there was no choice?
How would there ever be no choice?

The assertion of power without accountability leads to cruelty, injustice and evil. What makes our laws just is not so much that they are wise when formulated, but that they are tested and contested for demonstrable relevance, respect, equity and efficacy over time, and revised or repealed where they fall short.

The Ten Commandments and Sharia were both formulated in simpler, crueler and more ignorant times. Neither should be presumed necessary or sufficient in the modern world.

That being so, why would you accept either without question, contention and revision?
missmedic
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2/17/2016 11:00:48 PM
Posted: 9 months ago
At 2/17/2016 9:17:32 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
Would you rather be under the 10 commandments or the Sharia if there was no choice?

Do you know that nine of the ten are punishable by death?
Do you know that the first four are about gods ego and have nothing to do with morality. This is why we do not use them, because putting people to death for blasphemy is immoral.
keithprosser
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2/17/2016 11:10:10 PM
Posted: 9 months ago
They aren't really comparable. Sharia is a huge body of law, the ten C's is a short list of prohibitions. It would be fairer to compare Sharia with the entire body of Biblical law, which includes prohibitions as arcane as not boiling a kid in its mothers milk (Deut 14:21) and the correct way to wave burnt offerings (Lev 14). Working on the Sabbath is punishable by death (Ex 31:15), and Moses had a man executed a man for it. (Num 15:32-36). Stoning for adultery is Mosaic and Sharia - there is quite a lot in common between them in fact.

The premise of the OP is flawed. You might as well ask 'Mosaic law or have to visit Mecca?' - it's not a sensible or meaningful thing to ask.
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2/17/2016 11:22:19 PM
Posted: 9 months ago
At 2/17/2016 9:17:32 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
Would you rather be under the 10 commandments or the Sharia if there was no choice?
There are over a thousand commandments in the new testament.
No where in the bible does it say you can obey the commandments you like and neglect the rest, nor does it say you can reduce the punishment god has imposed for breaking them.
So how many Christians follow gods commandments and enforcement?
janesix
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2/17/2016 11:25:44 PM
Posted: 9 months ago
At 2/17/2016 11:22:19 PM, missmedic wrote:
At 2/17/2016 9:17:32 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
Would you rather be under the 10 commandments or the Sharia if there was no choice?
There are over a thousand commandments in the new testament.
No where in the bible does it say you can obey the commandments you like and neglect the rest, nor does it say you can reduce the punishment god has imposed for breaking them.
So how many Christians follow gods commandments and enforcement?

None of that matters. Anyone can get a free pass to eternal bliss just by believing you are saved by Jesus.
keithprosser
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2/18/2016 12:22:48 AM
Posted: 9 months ago
A more sensible comparison would be the 10 commandments v. the 5 pillars of Islam

1.1 Shahada: Faith
1.2 Salat: Prayer
1.3 Zakt: Charity
1.4 Sawm: Fasting
1.5 Hajj: Pilgrimage to Mecca

Of course if the question is whether I would rather live under a secular sytem of law and goverment than a theocratic system the answer is obvious. But there would be very little to choose between living under Mosaic law and living under Sharia.
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2/18/2016 4:48:15 AM
Posted: 9 months ago
lol what is "sharia" where is the "book" of sharia? and its not just "10 commandments" u got where whole book called OT where God makes laws for the jews like to killng gays or burn witchs kill apostates kill a person for cursing his parents?

can u ask this question again?
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brontoraptor
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2/18/2016 5:30:43 AM
Posted: 9 months ago
At 2/17/2016 11:22:19 PM, missmedic wrote:
At 2/17/2016 9:17:32 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
Would you rather be under the 10 commandments or the Sharia if there was no choice?
There are over a thousand commandments in the new testament.
No where in the bible does it say you can obey the commandments you like and neglect the rest, nor does it say you can reduce the punishment god has imposed for breaking them.
So how many Christians follow gods commandments and enforcement?

You tell me.

Now back to the question. Sharia or the 10 Commandments
"What Donald Trump is doing is representing the absolute heartbreak, and anger, and frustration at a government gone mad."

http://youtu.be...
brontoraptor
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2/18/2016 5:32:01 AM
Posted: 9 months ago
At 2/17/2016 10:27:57 PM, RuvDraba wrote:
At 2/17/2016 9:17:32 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
Would you rather be under the 10 commandments or the Sharia if there was no choice?
How would there ever be no choice?

The assertion of power without accountability leads to cruelty, injustice and evil. What makes our laws just is not so much that they are wise when formulated, but that they are tested and contested for demonstrable relevance, respect, equity and efficacy over time, and revised or repealed where they fall short.

The Ten Commandments and Sharia were both formulated in simpler, crueler and more ignorant times. Neither should be presumed necessary or sufficient in the modern world.

That being so, why would you accept either without question, contention and revision?

They are in Europe.
"What Donald Trump is doing is representing the absolute heartbreak, and anger, and frustration at a government gone mad."

http://youtu.be...
brontoraptor
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2/18/2016 5:33:35 AM
Posted: 9 months ago
At 2/18/2016 4:48:15 AM, POPOO5560 wrote:
lol what is "sharia" where is the "book" of sharia? and its not just "10 commandments" u got where whole book called OT where God makes laws for the jews like to killng gays or burn witchs kill apostates kill a person for cursing his parents?

can u ask this question again?

Not a theologian I see. Yiu must have missed Jesus, who stood against b.s. Old Testament nonsense and brought order to religion.
"What Donald Trump is doing is representing the absolute heartbreak, and anger, and frustration at a government gone mad."

http://youtu.be...
brontoraptor
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2/18/2016 5:35:18 AM
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At 2/18/2016 4:48:15 AM, POPOO5560 wrote:
lol what is "sharia" where is the "book" of sharia? and its not just "10 commandments" u got where whole book called OT where God makes laws for the jews like to killng gays or burn witchs kill apostates kill a person for cursing his parents?

can u ask this question again?

I'm still looking for an honest Muslim. And WE are the infidels?
"What Donald Trump is doing is representing the absolute heartbreak, and anger, and frustration at a government gone mad."

http://youtu.be...
brontoraptor
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2/18/2016 5:39:34 AM
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At 2/18/2016 4:48:15 AM, POPOO5560 wrote:
lol what is "sharia" where is the "book" of sharia? and its not just "10 commandments" u got where whole book called OT where God makes laws for the jews like to killng gays or burn witchs kill apostates kill a person for cursing his parents?

can u ask this question again?

Ishtar sound familiar POOP? Ishtar would be the Babylonian demon goddess of the underworld accompanied by demons who was represented by a cescent moon with a star within it... she was called the morning star justlike Biblical Satan. She also went by Venus. Now she calls herself Alkah. Correct?
"What Donald Trump is doing is representing the absolute heartbreak, and anger, and frustration at a government gone mad."

http://youtu.be...
Mhykiel
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2/18/2016 5:51:44 AM
Posted: 9 months ago
At 2/17/2016 11:00:48 PM, missmedic wrote:
At 2/17/2016 9:17:32 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
Would you rather be under the 10 commandments or the Sharia if there was no choice?

Do you know that nine of the ten are punishable by death?

You should read the bible book by book. Not one verse here or there cited by some athiest website as fact.

This is a lie. While a sentence of death is for some commandments it is not 9 out of ten.
More like 4 of them.

Do you know that the first four are about gods ego and have nothing to do with morality. This is why we do not use them, because putting people to death for blasphemy is immoral.

Another lie. The 4th commandment is to keep the sabboth holy. Instead of reading some list composed and commentated'on I suggest you read the work itself. Jesus said the sabboth was made for man.
Mhykiel
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2/18/2016 6:01:48 AM
Posted: 9 months ago
At 2/17/2016 11:22:19 PM, missmedic wrote:
At 2/17/2016 9:17:32 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
Would you rather be under the 10 commandments or the Sharia if there was no choice?
There are over a thousand commandments in the new testament.
No where in the bible does it say you can obey the commandments you like and neglect the rest, nor does it say you can reduce the punishment god has imposed for breaking them.
So how many Christians follow gods commandments and enforcement?

you know what please stop commenting on a book you have never read. You are conflating the Law of Moses with the Ten Commandments.

One is from God and the other is from Moses. 2 Kings 21:8, "Neither will I make the feet of Israel move any more out of the land which I gave their fathers; only if they will observe to do according to all that I have commanded them, and according to all the law that my servant Moses commanded them."

The ten commandments are commanded to the people. And Moses was commanded to give them statutes and judgements. Commanded to give them a system of government.
RuvDraba
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2/18/2016 6:25:43 AM
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At 2/18/2016 5:32:01 AM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 2/17/2016 10:27:57 PM, RuvDraba wrote:
At 2/17/2016 9:17:32 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
Would you rather be under the 10 commandments or the Sharia if there was no choice?
How would there ever be no choice?

The assertion of power without accountability leads to cruelty, injustice and evil. What makes our laws just is not so much that they are wise when formulated, but that they are tested and contested for demonstrable relevance, respect, equity and efficacy over time, and revised or repealed where they fall short.

The Ten Commandments and Sharia were both formulated in simpler, crueler and more ignorant times. Neither should be presumed necessary or sufficient in the modern world.

That being so, why would you accept either without question, contention and revision?

They are in Europe.

Bronto, in support of your otherwise bare assertion, could you please cite for us a European country where, after diligent search, you have concluded either Sharia or the Ten Commandments has been imposed in this century on unwilling citizens without question, contention or revision?

When providing your citation, please also describe in a paragraph or less, your research methodology including any journals of record or other reputable sources you researched.
desmac
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2/18/2016 11:29:11 AM
Posted: 9 months ago
At 2/17/2016 9:17:32 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
Would you rather be under the 10 commandments or the Sharia if there was no choice?

Why confine it to ten commandments? There are 613 commandments.