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2/19/2016 10:23:04 AM
Posted: 9 months ago
I haven't really been active much recently. Thought I'd come and put a few posts here and there, and maybe a debate or two.

What do I see?

Some of the same people, some new people, largely doing the same thing. Throwing insults, passive aggressive comments, snarky comments, and ever more or less subtle ways to emotionally one-up the person who disagrees with you.

Funny thing is, that its not much better on other forums, so I wonder if this is the expected outcome of anything which has strong emotional connections. As someone who has sniffed around the feminism/SJW movement, I see a lot of parallels. Are we as humans physically incapable of having fun and talking about these things without deliberately trying to upset/annoy the person on the other side?

I think I have lost a lot of faith in humanity. Probably the only thing I can genuinely say take a position of faith in to begin with. Hah!
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2/19/2016 10:31:10 AM
Posted: 9 months ago
At 2/19/2016 10:23:04 AM, Envisage wrote:
I haven't really been active much recently. Thought I'd come and put a few posts here and there, and maybe a debate or two.

What do I see?

Some of the same people, some new people, largely doing the same thing. Throwing insults, passive aggressive comments, snarky comments, and ever more or less subtle ways to emotionally one-up the person who disagrees with you.

Funny thing is, that its not much better on other forums, so I wonder if this is the expected outcome of anything which has strong emotional connections. As someone who has sniffed around the feminism/SJW movement, I see a lot of parallels. Are we as humans physically incapable of having fun and talking about these things without deliberately trying to upset/annoy the person on the other side?

I think I have lost a lot of faith in humanity. Probably the only thing I can genuinely say take a position of faith in to begin with. Hah!

Sorry about this , maybe you should of give us a heads up , on when you are coming back. Sorry man.
Harikrish
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2/19/2016 4:52:55 PM
Posted: 9 months ago
At 2/19/2016 10:23:04 AM, Envisage wrote:
I haven't really been active much recently. Thought I'd come and put a few posts here and there, and maybe a debate or two.

What do I see?

Some of the same people, some new people, largely doing the same thing. Throwing insults, passive aggressive comments, snarky comments, and ever more or less subtle ways to emotionally one-up the person who disagrees with you.

Funny thing is, that its not much better on other forums, so I wonder if this is the expected outcome of anything which has strong emotional connections. As someone who has sniffed around the feminism/SJW movement, I see a lot of parallels. Are we as humans physically incapable of having fun and talking about these things without deliberately trying to upset/annoy the person on the other side?

I think I have lost a lot of faith in humanity. Probably the only thing I can genuinely say take a position of faith in to begin with. Hah!

If you get the feeling you are surrounded by idiots, you are not alone.
Human intelligence is declining according to Stanford geneticist.
https://www.rt.com...

You might as well return and enjoy the slight edge you have before you reach your level of incompetence and join the masses.
You might enjoy the thread on Sodomy. Last time I checked no female found it a sin and hardly any male thought it would stop them even if it was. Maybe if you lowered your expectation you might find being dumb isn't as bad as it is made out to be. There are still somel positions on DDO that are mutually acceptable.

If sodomy is a sin.
http://www.debate.org...
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2/19/2016 8:38:54 PM
Posted: 9 months ago
At 2/19/2016 10:23:04 AM, Envisage wrote:
I haven't really been active much recently. Thought I'd come and put a few posts here and there, and maybe a debate or two.

What do I see?

Some of the same people, some new people, largely doing the same thing. Throwing insults, passive aggressive comments, snarky comments, and ever more or less subtle ways to emotionally one-up the person who disagrees with you.

Funny thing is, that its not much better on other forums, so I wonder if this is the expected outcome of anything which has strong emotional connections. As someone who has sniffed around the feminism/SJW movement, I see a lot of parallels. Are we as humans physically incapable of having fun and talking about these things without deliberately trying to upset/annoy the person on the other side?

I think I have lost a lot of faith in humanity. Probably the only thing I can genuinely say take a position of faith in to begin with. Hah!

Other forums i have been on have been better moderated in that people are kicked off if continually commit adhominen attacks and other infractions.
Jovian
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2/19/2016 9:14:13 PM
Posted: 9 months ago
At 2/19/2016 4:52:55 PM, Harikrish wrote:
At 2/19/2016 10:23:04 AM, Envisage wrote:
I haven't really been active much recently. Thought I'd come and put a few posts here and there, and maybe a debate or two.

What do I see?

Some of the same people, some new people, largely doing the same thing. Throwing insults, passive aggressive comments, snarky comments, and ever more or less subtle ways to emotionally one-up the person who disagrees with you.

Funny thing is, that its not much better on other forums, so I wonder if this is the expected outcome of anything which has strong emotional connections. As someone who has sniffed around the feminism/SJW movement, I see a lot of parallels. Are we as humans physically incapable of having fun and talking about these things without deliberately trying to upset/annoy the person on the other side?

I think I have lost a lot of faith in humanity. Probably the only thing I can genuinely say take a position of faith in to begin with. Hah!

If you get the feeling you are surrounded by idiots, you are not alone.
Human intelligence is declining according to Stanford geneticist.
https://www.rt.com...

You might as well return and enjoy the slight edge you have before you reach your level of incompetence and join the masses.
You might enjoy the thread on Sodomy. Last time I checked no female found it a sin and hardly any male thought it would stop them even if it was. Maybe if you lowered your expectation you might find being dumb isn't as bad as it is made out to be. There are still somel positions on DDO that are mutually acceptable.

If sodomy is a sin.
http://www.debate.org...

The misogynist Harikrish (source: http://www.debate.org... ) seems to be angry over what some people do privately in their own bedrooms (which is not unusual at all since religions gladly and paradoxically interfere in such things). One could also wonder why Harikrish instead of ventilating over his anger on how women never choose to have sex with him just chooses to not have anything with women to do and become asexual/homosexual.
Harikrish
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2/19/2016 11:54:26 PM
Posted: 9 months ago
At 2/19/2016 9:14:13 PM, Jovian wrote:
At 2/19/2016 4:52:55 PM, Harikrish wrote:
At 2/19/2016 10:23:04 AM, Envisage wrote:
I haven't really been active much recently. Thought I'd come and put a few posts here and there, and maybe a debate or two.

What do I see?

Some of the same people, some new people, largely doing the same thing. Throwing insults, passive aggressive comments, snarky comments, and ever more or less subtle ways to emotionally one-up the person who disagrees with you.

Funny thing is, that its not much better on other forums, so I wonder if this is the expected outcome of anything which has strong emotional connections. As someone who has sniffed around the feminism/SJW movement, I see a lot of parallels. Are we as humans physically incapable of having fun and talking about these things without deliberately trying to upset/annoy the person on the other side?

I think I have lost a lot of faith in humanity. Probably the only thing I can genuinely say take a position of faith in to begin with. Hah!

If you get the feeling you are surrounded by idiots, you are not alone.
Human intelligence is declining according to Stanford geneticist.
https://www.rt.com...

You might as well return and enjoy the slight edge you have before you reach your level of incompetence and join the masses.
You might enjoy the thread on Sodomy. Last time I checked no female found it a sin and hardly any male thought it would stop them even if it was. Maybe if you lowered your expectation you might find being dumb isn't as bad as it is made out to be. There are still somel positions on DDO that are mutually acceptable.

If sodomy is a sin.
http://www.debate.org...

The misogynist Harikrish (source: http://www.debate.org... ) seems to be angry over what some people do privately in their own bedrooms (which is not unusual at all since religions gladly and paradoxically interfere in such things). One could also wonder why Harikrish instead of ventilating over his anger on how women never choose to have sex with him just chooses to not have anything with women to do and become asexual/homosexual.

You got it all wrong. Most women think there are two of me when making love. They cannot stop chanting Harikrishna, HariRama like there are two spiritual beings engaging in a threesome karma sutra. Fortunately I got married or I would have developed a dual personality.
Jovian
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2/20/2016 12:02:27 AM
Posted: 9 months ago
At 2/19/2016 11:54:26 PM, Harikrish wrote:
At 2/19/2016 9:14:13 PM, Jovian wrote:
At 2/19/2016 4:52:55 PM, Harikrish wrote:
At 2/19/2016 10:23:04 AM, Envisage wrote:
I haven't really been active much recently. Thought I'd come and put a few posts here and there, and maybe a debate or two.

What do I see?

Some of the same people, some new people, largely doing the same thing. Throwing insults, passive aggressive comments, snarky comments, and ever more or less subtle ways to emotionally one-up the person who disagrees with you.

Funny thing is, that its not much better on other forums, so I wonder if this is the expected outcome of anything which has strong emotional connections. As someone who has sniffed around the feminism/SJW movement, I see a lot of parallels. Are we as humans physically incapable of having fun and talking about these things without deliberately trying to upset/annoy the person on the other side?

I think I have lost a lot of faith in humanity. Probably the only thing I can genuinely say take a position of faith in to begin with. Hah!

If you get the feeling you are surrounded by idiots, you are not alone.
Human intelligence is declining according to Stanford geneticist.
https://www.rt.com...

You might as well return and enjoy the slight edge you have before you reach your level of incompetence and join the masses.
You might enjoy the thread on Sodomy. Last time I checked no female found it a sin and hardly any male thought it would stop them even if it was. Maybe if you lowered your expectation you might find being dumb isn't as bad as it is made out to be. There are still somel positions on DDO that are mutually acceptable.

If sodomy is a sin.
http://www.debate.org...

The misogynist Harikrish (source: http://www.debate.org... ) seems to be angry over what some people do privately in their own bedrooms (which is not unusual at all since religions gladly and paradoxically interfere in such things). One could also wonder why Harikrish instead of ventilating over his anger on how women never choose to have sex with him just chooses to not have anything with women to do and become asexual/homosexual.

You got it all wrong. Most women think there are two of me when making love. They cannot stop chanting Harikrishna, HariRama like there are two spiritual beings engaging in a threesome karma sutra. Fortunately I got married or I would have developed a dual personality.

Haha, speaking of that, why do you have such a Hindu name when you're a Muslim?
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2/20/2016 12:34:30 AM
Posted: 9 months ago
At 2/19/2016 10:23:04 AM, Envisage wrote:
I haven't really been active much recently. Thought I'd come and put a few posts here and there, and maybe a debate or two.

What do I see?

Some of the same people, some new people, largely doing the same thing. Throwing insults, passive aggressive comments, snarky comments, and ever more or less subtle ways to emotionally one-up the person who disagrees with you.

Funny thing is, that its not much better on other forums, so I wonder if this is the expected outcome of anything which has strong emotional connections. As someone who has sniffed around the feminism/SJW movement, I see a lot of parallels. Are we as humans physically incapable of having fun and talking about these things without deliberately trying to upset/annoy the person on the other side?

I think I have lost a lot of faith in humanity. Probably the only thing I can genuinely say take a position of faith in to begin with. Hah!

I think it may be worse than before. What's it like on the outside?! ;-)
This thread is like eavesdropping on a conversation in a mental asylum. - Bulproof

You can call your invisible friends whatever you like. - Desmac

What the hell kind of coked up sideshow has this thread turned into. - Casten
Harikrish
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2/20/2016 1:51:46 AM
Posted: 9 months ago
At 2/20/2016 12:02:27 AM, Jovian wrote:
At 2/19/2016 11:54:26 PM, Harikrish wrote:
At 2/19/2016 9:14:13 PM, Jovian wrote:
At 2/19/2016 4:52:55 PM, Harikrish wrote:
At 2/19/2016 10:23:04 AM, Envisage wrote:
I haven't really been active much recently. Thought I'd come and put a few posts here and there, and maybe a debate or two.

What do I see?

Some of the same people, some new people, largely doing the same thing. Throwing insults, passive aggressive comments, snarky comments, and ever more or less subtle ways to emotionally one-up the person who disagrees with you.

Funny thing is, that its not much better on other forums, so I wonder if this is the expected outcome of anything which has strong emotional connections. As someone who has sniffed around the feminism/SJW movement, I see a lot of parallels. Are we as humans physically incapable of having fun and talking about these things without deliberately trying to upset/annoy the person on the other side?

I think I have lost a lot of faith in humanity. Probably the only thing I can genuinely say take a position of faith in to begin with. Hah!

If you get the feeling you are surrounded by idiots, you are not alone.
Human intelligence is declining according to Stanford geneticist.
https://www.rt.com...

You might as well return and enjoy the slight edge you have before you reach your level of incompetence and join the masses.
You might enjoy the thread on Sodomy. Last time I checked no female found it a sin and hardly any male thought it would stop them even if it was. Maybe if you lowered your expectation you might find being dumb isn't as bad as it is made out to be. There are still somel positions on DDO that are mutually acceptable.

If sodomy is a sin.
http://www.debate.org...

The misogynist Harikrish (source: http://www.debate.org... ) seems to be angry over what some people do privately in their own bedrooms (which is not unusual at all since religions gladly and paradoxically interfere in such things). One could also wonder why Harikrish instead of ventilating over his anger on how women never choose to have sex with him just chooses to not have anything with women to do and become asexual/homosexual.

You got it all wrong. Most women think there are two of me when making love. They cannot stop chanting Harikrishna, HariRama like there are two spiritual beings engaging in a threesome karma sutra. Fortunately I got married or I would have developed a dual personality.

Haha, speaking of that, why do you have such a Hindu name when you're a Muslim?
Everybody knows Harikrish is not a Muslim name. You are very stupid for thinking I am a Muslim.
I have said it often enough on DDO. . I am a Vedantist raised in the Vedantic tradition.
Iredia
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2/20/2016 7:30:45 AM
Posted: 9 months ago
At 2/19/2016 10:23:04 AM, Envisage wrote:
I haven't really been active much recently. Thought I'd come and put a few posts here and there, and maybe a debate or two.

What do I see?

Some of the same people, some new people, largely doing the same thing. Throwing insults, passive aggressive comments, snarky comments, and ever more or less subtle ways to emotionally one-up the person who disagrees with you.

Funny thing is, that its not much better on other forums, so I wonder if this is the expected outcome of anything which has strong emotional connections. As someone who has sniffed around the feminism/SJW movement, I see a lot of parallels. Are we as humans physically incapable of having fun and talking about these things without deliberately trying to upset/annoy the person on the other side?

Good question. It does happen though that we sometimes just joke around these issues. But that's quite rare. As you rightly said it has deep emotional connections.


I think I have lost a lot of faith in humanity. Probably the only thing I can genuinely say take a position of faith in to begin with. Hah!

Don't lose faith bro. And cheer up a bit. You need it.
Porn babes be distracting me. Dudes be stealing me stuff. I'm all about the cash from now. I'm not playing Jesus anymore.
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2/20/2016 8:06:36 AM
Posted: 9 months ago
At 2/19/2016 10:23:04 AM, Envisage wrote:

I think I have lost a lot of faith in humanity.
At your age you have not experienced enough of humanity to make a decision.
Religion is just mind control. George Carlin
Jovian
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2/20/2016 12:48:42 PM
Posted: 9 months ago
At 2/20/2016 1:51:46 AM, Harikrish wrote:
At 2/20/2016 12:02:27 AM, Jovian wrote:
At 2/19/2016 11:54:26 PM, Harikrish wrote:
At 2/19/2016 9:14:13 PM, Jovian wrote:
At 2/19/2016 4:52:55 PM, Harikrish wrote:
At 2/19/2016 10:23:04 AM, Envisage wrote:
I haven't really been active much recently. Thought I'd come and put a few posts here and there, and maybe a debate or two.

What do I see?

Some of the same people, some new people, largely doing the same thing. Throwing insults, passive aggressive comments, snarky comments, and ever more or less subtle ways to emotionally one-up the person who disagrees with you.

Funny thing is, that its not much better on other forums, so I wonder if this is the expected outcome of anything which has strong emotional connections. As someone who has sniffed around the feminism/SJW movement, I see a lot of parallels. Are we as humans physically incapable of having fun and talking about these things without deliberately trying to upset/annoy the person on the other side?

I think I have lost a lot of faith in humanity. Probably the only thing I can genuinely say take a position of faith in to begin with. Hah!

If you get the feeling you are surrounded by idiots, you are not alone.
Human intelligence is declining according to Stanford geneticist.
https://www.rt.com...

You might as well return and enjoy the slight edge you have before you reach your level of incompetence and join the masses.
You might enjoy the thread on Sodomy. Last time I checked no female found it a sin and hardly any male thought it would stop them even if it was. Maybe if you lowered your expectation you might find being dumb isn't as bad as it is made out to be. There are still somel positions on DDO that are mutually acceptable.

If sodomy is a sin.
http://www.debate.org...

The misogynist Harikrish (source: http://www.debate.org... ) seems to be angry over what some people do privately in their own bedrooms (which is not unusual at all since religions gladly and paradoxically interfere in such things). One could also wonder why Harikrish instead of ventilating over his anger on how women never choose to have sex with him just chooses to not have anything with women to do and become asexual/homosexual.

You got it all wrong. Most women think there are two of me when making love. They cannot stop chanting Harikrishna, HariRama like there are two spiritual beings engaging in a threesome karma sutra. Fortunately I got married or I would have developed a dual personality.

Haha, speaking of that, why do you have such a Hindu name when you're a Muslim?
Everybody knows Harikrish is not a Muslim name. You are very stupid for thinking I am a Muslim.

UtherPenguin on DDO is a Muslim. Nothing Islamic about that name either.

I have said it often enough on DDO. . I am a Vedantist raised in the Vedantic tradition.

Looooool. And in another thread, you told me in a negative way there will be consequences for me for having rejected Christianity. So you're pretty much a troll who likes to confuse people.
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2/20/2016 1:40:29 PM
Posted: 9 months ago
At 2/20/2016 12:48:42 PM, Jovian wrote:
At 2/20/2016 1:51:46 AM, Harikrish wrote:
At 2/20/2016 12:02:27 AM, Jovian wrote:
At 2/19/2016 11:54:26 PM, Harikrish wrote:
At 2/19/2016 9:14:13 PM, Jovian wrote:
At 2/19/2016 4:52:55 PM, Harikrish wrote:
At 2/19/2016 10:23:04 AM, Envisage wrote:
I haven't really been active much recently. Thought I'd come and put a few posts here and there, and maybe a debate or two.

What do I see?

Some of the same people, some new people, largely doing the same thing. Throwing insults, passive aggressive comments, snarky comments, and ever more or less subtle ways to emotionally one-up the person who disagrees with you.

Funny thing is, that its not much better on other forums, so I wonder if this is the expected outcome of anything which has strong emotional connections. As someone who has sniffed around the feminism/SJW movement, I see a lot of parallels. Are we as humans physically incapable of having fun and talking about these things without deliberately trying to upset/annoy the person on the other side?

I think I have lost a lot of faith in humanity. Probably the only thing I can genuinely say take a position of faith in to begin with. Hah!

If you get the feeling you are surrounded by idiots, you are not alone.
Human intelligence is declining according to Stanford geneticist.
https://www.rt.com...

You might as well return and enjoy the slight edge you have before you reach your level of incompetence and join the masses.
You might enjoy the thread on Sodomy. Last time I checked no female found it a sin and hardly any male thought it would stop them even if it was. Maybe if you lowered your expectation you might find being dumb isn't as bad as it is made out to be. There are still somel positions on DDO that are mutually acceptable.

If sodomy is a sin.
http://www.debate.org...

The misogynist Harikrish (source: http://www.debate.org... ) seems to be angry over what some people do privately in their own bedrooms (which is not unusual at all since religions gladly and paradoxically interfere in such things). One could also wonder why Harikrish instead of ventilating over his anger on how women never choose to have sex with him just chooses to not have anything with women to do and become asexual/homosexual.

You got it all wrong. Most women think there are two of me when making love. They cannot stop chanting Harikrishna, HariRama like there are two spiritual beings engaging in a threesome karma sutra. Fortunately I got married or I would have developed a dual personality.

Haha, speaking of that, why do you have such a Hindu name when you're a Muslim?
Everybody knows Harikrish is not a Muslim name. You are very stupid for thinking I am a Muslim.

UtherPenguin on DDO is a Muslim. Nothing Islamic about that name either.

I have said it often enough on DDO. . I am a Vedantist raised in the Vedantic tradition.

Looooool. And in another thread, you told me in a negative way there will be consequences for me for having rejected Christianity. So you're pretty much a troll who likes to confuse people.

That was very true. Yours is a jealous God, mine is not. Read your scriptures.
Exodus 34:14 You must worship no other gods, for the LORD, whose very name is Jealous, is a God who is jealous about his relationship with you.
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2/20/2016 1:52:41 PM
Posted: 9 months ago
At 2/20/2016 12:48:42 PM, Jovian wrote:
At 2/20/2016 1:51:46 AM, Harikrish wrote:
At 2/20/2016 12:02:27 AM, Jovian wrote:
At 2/19/2016 11:54:26 PM, Harikrish wrote:
At 2/19/2016 9:14:13 PM, Jovian wrote:
At 2/19/2016 4:52:55 PM, Harikrish wrote:
At 2/19/2016 10:23:04 AM, Envisage wrote:
I haven't really been active much recently. Thought I'd come and put a few posts here and there, and maybe a debate or two.

What do I see?

Some of the same people, some new people, largely doing the same thing. Throwing insults, passive aggressive comments, snarky comments, and ever more or less subtle ways to emotionally one-up the person who disagrees with you.

Funny thing is, that its not much better on other forums, so I wonder if this is the expected outcome of anything which has strong emotional connections. As someone who has sniffed around the feminism/SJW movement, I see a lot of parallels. Are we as humans physically incapable of having fun and talking about these things without deliberately trying to upset/annoy the person on the other side?

I think I have lost a lot of faith in humanity. Probably the only thing I can genuinely say take a position of faith in to begin with. Hah!

If you get the feeling you are surrounded by idiots, you are not alone.
Human intelligence is declining according to Stanford geneticist.
https://www.rt.com...

You might as well return and enjoy the slight edge you have before you reach your level of incompetence and join the masses.
You might enjoy the thread on Sodomy. Last time I checked no female found it a sin and hardly any male thought it would stop them even if it was. Maybe if you lowered your expectation you might find being dumb isn't as bad as it is made out to be. There are still somel positions on DDO that are mutually acceptable.

If sodomy is a sin.
http://www.debate.org...

The misogynist Harikrish (source: http://www.debate.org... ) seems to be angry over what some people do privately in their own bedrooms (which is not unusual at all since religions gladly and paradoxically interfere in such things). One could also wonder why Harikrish instead of ventilating over his anger on how women never choose to have sex with him just chooses to not have anything with women to do and become asexual/homosexual.

You got it all wrong. Most women think there are two of me when making love. They cannot stop chanting Harikrishna, HariRama like there are two spiritual beings engaging in a threesome karma sutra. Fortunately I got married or I would have developed a dual personality.

Haha, speaking of that, why do you have such a Hindu name when you're a Muslim?
Everybody knows Harikrish is not a Muslim name. You are very stupid for thinking I am a Muslim.

UtherPenguin on DDO is a Muslim. Nothing Islamic about that name either.

I have said it often enough on DDO. . I am a Vedantist raised in the Vedantic tradition.

Looooool. And in another thread, you told me in a negative way there will be consequences for me for having rejected Christianity. So you're pretty much a troll who likes to confuse people.

Hari has three personalities...well make that four. His first personality is Hindu (the one he was born with), the next a Muslim and third a Christian. The fourth one appears to be the pervert.
The fun is trying to catch one or the other, they're quite slippery you gotta stay on your toes :)
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2/20/2016 1:57:19 PM
Posted: 9 months ago
At 2/20/2016 1:52:41 PM, EtrnlVw wrote:
At 2/20/2016 12:48:42 PM, Jovian wrote:
At 2/20/2016 1:51:46 AM, Harikrish wrote:
At 2/20/2016 12:02:27 AM, Jovian wrote:
At 2/19/2016 11:54:26 PM, Harikrish wrote:
At 2/19/2016 9:14:13 PM, Jovian wrote:
At 2/19/2016 4:52:55 PM, Harikrish wrote:
At 2/19/2016 10:23:04 AM, Envisage wrote:
I haven't really been active much recently. Thought I'd come and put a few posts here and there, and maybe a debate or two.

What do I see?

Some of the same people, some new people, largely doing the same thing. Throwing insults, passive aggressive comments, snarky comments, and ever more or less subtle ways to emotionally one-up the person who disagrees with you.

Funny thing is, that its not much better on other forums, so I wonder if this is the expected outcome of anything which has strong emotional connections. As someone who has sniffed around the feminism/SJW movement, I see a lot of parallels. Are we as humans physically incapable of having fun and talking about these things without deliberately trying to upset/annoy the person on the other side?

I think I have lost a lot of faith in humanity. Probably the only thing I can genuinely say take a position of faith in to begin with. Hah!

If you get the feeling you are surrounded by idiots, you are not alone.
Human intelligence is declining according to Stanford geneticist.
https://www.rt.com...

You might as well return and enjoy the slight edge you have before you reach your level of incompetence and join the masses.
You might enjoy the thread on Sodomy. Last time I checked no female found it a sin and hardly any male thought it would stop them even if it was. Maybe if you lowered your expectation you might find being dumb isn't as bad as it is made out to be. There are still somel positions on DDO that are mutually acceptable.

If sodomy is a sin.
http://www.debate.org...

The misogynist Harikrish (source: http://www.debate.org... ) seems to be angry over what some people do privately in their own bedrooms (which is not unusual at all since religions gladly and paradoxically interfere in such things). One could also wonder why Harikrish instead of ventilating over his anger on how women never choose to have sex with him just chooses to not have anything with women to do and become asexual/homosexual.

You got it all wrong. Most women think there are two of me when making love. They cannot stop chanting Harikrishna, HariRama like there are two spiritual beings engaging in a threesome karma sutra. Fortunately I got married or I would have developed a dual personality.

Haha, speaking of that, why do you have such a Hindu name when you're a Muslim?
Everybody knows Harikrish is not a Muslim name. You are very stupid for thinking I am a Muslim.

UtherPenguin on DDO is a Muslim. Nothing Islamic about that name either.

I have said it often enough on DDO. . I am a Vedantist raised in the Vedantic tradition.

Looooool. And in another thread, you told me in a negative way there will be consequences for me for having rejected Christianity. So you're pretty much a troll who likes to confuse people.

Hari has three personalities...well make that four. His first personality is Hindu (the one he was born with), the next a Muslim and third a Christian. The fourth one appears to be the pervert.
The fun is trying to catch one or the other, they're quite slippery you gotta stay on your toes :)
https://nameun.files.wordpress.com...

I see I see. But where is the atheist alter ego?
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2/20/2016 2:26:43 PM
Posted: 9 months ago
At 2/20/2016 1:57:19 PM, Jovian wrote:
At 2/20/2016 1:52:41 PM, EtrnlVw wrote:
At 2/20/2016 12:48:42 PM, Jovian wrote:
At 2/20/2016 1:51:46 AM, Harikrish wrote:
At 2/20/2016 12:02:27 AM, Jovian wrote:
At 2/19/2016 11:54:26 PM, Harikrish wrote:
At 2/19/2016 9:14:13 PM, Jovian wrote:
At 2/19/2016 4:52:55 PM, Harikrish wrote:
At 2/19/2016 10:23:04 AM, Envisage wrote:
I haven't really been active much recently. Thought I'd come and put a few posts here and there, and maybe a debate or two.

What do I see?

Some of the same people, some new people, largely doing the same thing. Throwing insults, passive aggressive comments, snarky comments, and ever more or less subtle ways to emotionally one-up the person who disagrees with you.

Funny thing is, that its not much better on other forums, so I wonder if this is the expected outcome of anything which has strong emotional connections. As someone who has sniffed around the feminism/SJW movement, I see a lot of parallels. Are we as humans physically incapable of having fun and talking about these things without deliberately trying to upset/annoy the person on the other side?

I think I have lost a lot of faith in humanity. Probably the only thing I can genuinely say take a position of faith in to begin with. Hah!

If you get the feeling you are surrounded by idiots, you are not alone.
Human intelligence is declining according to Stanford geneticist.
https://www.rt.com...

You might as well return and enjoy the slight edge you have before you reach your level of incompetence and join the masses.
You might enjoy the thread on Sodomy. Last time I checked no female found it a sin and hardly any male thought it would stop them even if it was. Maybe if you lowered your expectation you might find being dumb isn't as bad as it is made out to be. There are still somel positions on DDO that are mutually acceptable.

If sodomy is a sin.
http://www.debate.org...

The misogynist Harikrish (source: http://www.debate.org... ) seems to be angry over what some people do privately in their own bedrooms (which is not unusual at all since religions gladly and paradoxically interfere in such things). One could also wonder why Harikrish instead of ventilating over his anger on how women never choose to have sex with him just chooses to not have anything with women to do and become asexual/homosexual.

You got it all wrong. Most women think there are two of me when making love. They cannot stop chanting Harikrishna, HariRama like there are two spiritual beings engaging in a threesome karma sutra. Fortunately I got married or I would have developed a dual personality.

Haha, speaking of that, why do you have such a Hindu name when you're a Muslim?
Everybody knows Harikrish is not a Muslim name. You are very stupid for thinking I am a Muslim.

UtherPenguin on DDO is a Muslim. Nothing Islamic about that name either.

I have said it often enough on DDO. . I am a Vedantist raised in the Vedantic tradition.

Looooool. And in another thread, you told me in a negative way there will be consequences for me for having rejected Christianity. So you're pretty much a troll who likes to confuse people.

Hari has three personalities...well make that four. His first personality is Hindu (the one he was born with), the next a Muslim and third a Christian. The fourth one appears to be the pervert.
The fun is trying to catch one or the other, they're quite slippery you gotta stay on your toes :)
https://nameun.files.wordpress.com...

I see I see. But where is the atheist alter ego?

Ahh but it's assuredly there....you should have seen his original posts, everyone thought he was an atheist lol, but it pokes it's ugly head out now and then.
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2/20/2016 2:59:33 PM
Posted: 9 months ago
At 2/19/2016 10:23:04 AM, Envisage wrote:
Funny thing is, that its not much better on other forums, so I wonder if this is the expected outcome of anything which has strong emotional connections. As someone who has sniffed around the feminism/SJW movement, I see a lot of parallels. Are we as humans physically incapable of having fun and talking about these things without deliberately trying to upset/annoy the person on the other side?

I think I have lost a lot of faith in humanity. Probably the only thing I can genuinely say take a position of faith in to begin with. Hah!

We are emotional beings. This I believe stems from our instincts developed back in the days where our survival depended on quick decision making to ensure for example that we react to seeing a bear or lion and run as opposed to analyzing the situation and coming to a conclusion about the best course of action.

Because of this it is difficult for people to recognize the difference between a rational disagreement and a personal attack, the difference between a verbal confrontation and a verbal contest of reasoning. Yes it's sad, but it is our nature.
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2/20/2016 6:03:09 PM
Posted: 9 months ago
At 2/20/2016 1:40:29 PM, Harikrish wrote:
At 2/20/2016 12:48:42 PM, Jovian wrote:
At 2/20/2016 1:51:46 AM, Harikrish wrote:
At 2/20/2016 12:02:27 AM, Jovian wrote:
At 2/19/2016 11:54:26 PM, Harikrish wrote:
At 2/19/2016 9:14:13 PM, Jovian wrote:
At 2/19/2016 4:52:55 PM, Harikrish wrote:
At 2/19/2016 10:23:04 AM, Envisage wrote:
I haven't really been active much recently. Thought I'd come and put a few posts here and there, and maybe a debate or two.

What do I see?

Some of the same people, some new people, largely doing the same thing. Throwing insults, passive aggressive comments, snarky comments, and ever more or less subtle ways to emotionally one-up the person who disagrees with you.

Funny thing is, that its not much better on other forums, so I wonder if this is the expected outcome of anything which has strong emotional connections. As someone who has sniffed around the feminism/SJW movement, I see a lot of parallels. Are we as humans physically incapable of having fun and talking about these things without deliberately trying to upset/annoy the person on the other side?

I think I have lost a lot of faith in humanity. Probably the only thing I can genuinely say take a position of faith in to begin with. Hah!

If you get the feeling you are surrounded by idiots, you are not alone.
Human intelligence is declining according to Stanford geneticist.
https://www.rt.com...

You might as well return and enjoy the slight edge you have before you reach your level of incompetence and join the masses.
You might enjoy the thread on Sodomy. Last time I checked no female found it a sin and hardly any male thought it would stop them even if it was. Maybe if you lowered your expectation you might find being dumb isn't as bad as it is made out to be. There are still somel positions on DDO that are mutually acceptable.

If sodomy is a sin.
http://www.debate.org...

The misogynist Harikrish (source: http://www.debate.org... ) seems to be angry over what some people do privately in their own bedrooms (which is not unusual at all since religions gladly and paradoxically interfere in such things). One could also wonder why Harikrish instead of ventilating over his anger on how women never choose to have sex with him just chooses to not have anything with women to do and become asexual/homosexual.

You got it all wrong. Most women think there are two of me when making love. They cannot stop chanting Harikrishna, HariRama like there are two spiritual beings engaging in a threesome karma sutra. Fortunately I got married or I would have developed a dual personality.

Haha, speaking of that, why do you have such a Hindu name when you're a Muslim?
Everybody knows Harikrish is not a Muslim name. You are very stupid for thinking I am a Muslim.

UtherPenguin on DDO is a Muslim. Nothing Islamic about that name either.

I have said it often enough on DDO. . I am a Vedantist raised in the Vedantic tradition.

Looooool. And in another thread, you told me in a negative way there will be consequences for me for having rejected Christianity. So you're pretty much a troll who likes to confuse people.

That was very true. Yours is a jealous God, mine is not. Read your scriptures.
Exodus 34:14 You must worship no other gods, for the LORD, whose very name is Jealous, is a God who is jealous about his relationship with you.

You should with your acting skills try a career in Bollywood.
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2/20/2016 6:49:29 PM
Posted: 9 months ago
At 2/19/2016 10:23:04 AM, Envisage wrote:
Throwing insults, passive aggressive comments, snarky comments, and ever more or less subtle ways to emotionally one-up the person who disagrees with you.
Its not much better on other forums, so I wonder if this is the expected outcome of anything which has strong emotional connections.

Welcome back, Envisage.

While it's still being researched why people believe in religion, it's already fairly well-understood why people believe in a particular religion: some 70% inherit their faith from their parents, and in particular the closer your relationship to your father, the more likely you are to inherit his faith, whatever it is. (I can dig up a link on this if you're interested.)

That being so, the reason people adopt a particular faith in the first place is unconnected with the faith, and highly connected to their psychological development and sense of social identity.

So you'll get exactly the kind of debates you'd expect from people wanting to defend and promote their psychosocial foundations without ever wanting to relinquish them: poor research, poorly argued, with low tolerance for disagreement.

That's part of the reason I don't bother too much with God exists/God doesn't exist question here. I think it's the wrong question in the first place.

As someone who has sniffed around the feminism/SJW movement, I see a lot of parallels.
You'll see it among gay activists too if you know any, Viz. It works much like religion, in that you'll be having a broad, open-minded talk about whatever, only to hit some sort of dogmatic trigger, and suddenly you'll no longer be talking to an inquiring, open mind, but to someone in a trance. They can't hear you, can't question their words... their language becomes stiff, reflecting a rigid ontology. The arguments become circular, revealing that dogma is more important than knowledge. You cannot be neutral, skeptical or even inquiring. You're either an ally, an enemy or a potential convert. Allies are there to rail at enemies, enemies are there to be railed at, and potential converts are there to be manipulated into assent.

I think I have lost a lot of faith in humanity. Probably the only thing I can genuinely say take a position of faith in to begin with. Hah!
Fortunately, people are not their sacred dogmas, Viz. Move them far enough outside the context where their dogmas will trigger, and they can do extraordinary things.
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2/20/2016 7:27:29 PM
Posted: 9 months ago
At 2/19/2016 10:23:04 AM, Envisage wrote:
I haven't really been active much recently. Thought I'd come and put a few posts here and there, and maybe a debate or two.

What do I see?

Some of the same people, some new people, largely doing the same thing. Throwing insults, passive aggressive comments, snarky comments, and ever more or less subtle ways to emotionally one-up the person who disagrees with you.

Funny thing is, that its not much better on other forums, so I wonder if this is the expected outcome of anything which has strong emotional connections. As someone who has sniffed around the feminism/SJW movement, I see a lot of parallels. Are we as humans physically incapable of having fun and talking about these things without deliberately trying to upset/annoy the person on the other side?

I think I have lost a lot of faith in humanity. Probably the only thing I can genuinely say take a position of faith in to begin with. Hah!

This is true of most forums here, science, philosophy etc, people with an interest take an interest.

Harry.
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2/21/2016 12:01:52 AM
Posted: 9 months ago
At 2/19/2016 10:23:04 AM, Envisage wrote:
I haven't really been active much recently. Thought I'd come and put a few posts here and there, and maybe a debate or two.

What do I see?

Some of the same people, some new people, largely doing the same thing. Throwing insults, passive aggressive comments, snarky comments, and ever more or less subtle ways to emotionally one-up the person who disagrees with you.

Funny thing is, that its not much better on other forums, so I wonder if this is the expected outcome of anything which has strong emotional connections. As someone who has sniffed around the feminism/SJW movement, I see a lot of parallels. Are we as humans physically incapable of having fun and talking about these things without deliberately trying to upset/annoy the person on the other side?

I think I have lost a lot of faith in humanity. Probably the only thing I can genuinely say take a position of faith in to begin with. Hah!

Bs"D

Amen.

As I wrote elsewhere:

Theists: Yes G-d!
Atheists: No G-d!
Repeat 1 trillion times= DDO Religion forum.
Even G-d Himself is probably getting bored, Kav'yachol (As a matter of speech).
"Imagine a person who comes in here tonight and argues "air isn't true" but continues to breathe it while he argues. In their daily lives, Atheists continue to breathe-- they take medicine, fly on planes, watch TV, use computers and the Internet for communication and countless tasks, electrical lights when it's dark... all these are made possible by G-d's creations, and would not be possible via the Atheist worldview. They are breathing G-d's air all the time they argue against Him." -- Fly/Me
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3/24/2016 5:21:54 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 2/20/2016 6:49:29 PM, RuvDraba wrote:

Welcome back, Envisage.

While it's still being researched why people believe in religion, it's already fairly well-understood why people believe in a particular religion: some 70% inherit their faith from their parents, and in particular the closer your relationship to your father, the more likely you are to inherit his faith, whatever it is. (I can dig up a link on this if you're interested.)

That being so, the reason people adopt a particular faith in the first place is unconnected with the faith, and highly connected to their psychological development and sense of social identity.

So you'll get exactly the kind of debates you'd expect from people wanting to defend and promote their psychosocial foundations without ever wanting to relinquish them: poor research, poorly argued, with low tolerance for disagreement.

One problem with that theory -- atheists are just as guilty as theists are of engaging in the sort of buffoonery that takes place in this forum.
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3/24/2016 6:00:09 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 3/24/2016 5:21:54 PM, Romaniii wrote:
At 2/20/2016 6:49:29 PM, RuvDraba wrote:

Welcome back, Envisage.

While it's still being researched why people believe in religion, it's already fairly well-understood why people believe in a particular religion: some 70% inherit their faith from their parents, and in particular the closer your relationship to your father, the more likely you are to inherit his faith, whatever it is. (I can dig up a link on this if you're interested.)

That being so, the reason people adopt a particular faith in the first place is unconnected with the faith, and highly connected to their psychological development and sense of social identity.

So you'll get exactly the kind of debates you'd expect from people wanting to defend and promote their psychosocial foundations without ever wanting to relinquish them: poor research, poorly argued, with low tolerance for disagreement.

One problem with that theory -- atheists are just as guilty as theists are of engaging in the sort of buffoonery that takes place in this forum.

I didn't use the term 'buffoonery', and don't know how 'just as guilty' is measured, Romaniii. However, it is the case that given authenticated evidence, rational thinkers will change their opinions on ideas that intersect with religious beliefs. Ideas like: evolution, abiogenesis, cosmogenesis, epistemology, the nature of space and time, religious history, clerical ethics and scriptural diplomatics.

I know of many atheists participating in this forum who have changed their views on just such matters, which I think means that of the atheists participating, many are actually looking for interesting ideas and evidence to broaden their understanding of truth, knowledge, religious history and existential questions. That's certainly part of why I participate.

I am less persuaded that this forum is full of members of religious belief with the same interest and commitment. I find myself tripping over the same dogmatists time and again, using the same trite arguments, and with zero curiosity in best-practice research on topics like these.

I find it frustrating that so many members of faith only want to defend traditional dogma with rhetoric, and have no interest in the ideas that emerged since the dogma were written. That frustration doesn't lead me to want to clown much, if that's what you mean by buffoonery -- but I could well understand if it led others to do so.
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3/24/2016 6:04:57 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 2/19/2016 10:23:04 AM, Envisage wrote:
I haven't really been active much recently. Thought I'd come and put a few posts here and there, and maybe a debate or two.

What do I see?

Some of the same people, some new people, largely doing the same thing. Throwing insults, passive aggressive comments, snarky comments, and ever more or less subtle ways to emotionally one-up the person who disagrees with you.

Funny thing is, that its not much better on other forums, so I wonder if this is the expected outcome of anything which has strong emotional connections. As someone who has sniffed around the feminism/SJW movement, I see a lot of parallels. Are we as humans physically incapable of having fun and talking about these things without deliberately trying to upset/annoy the person on the other side?

I think I have lost a lot of faith in humanity. Probably the only thing I can genuinely say take a position of faith in to begin with. Hah!

I think what your expressing dissapointment in is human nature. But human nature is emontional and not robotic and it is also competitive in nature. Also given the fact it gives a platform to get away with pretty much saying anything with no consequences. I find little surprise things play out the way they do.
You also have people who feel strongly in polar opposites for issues ect. Theres nothing in the world wrong with it.