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Double_R
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2/20/2016 2:51:44 PM
Posted: 9 months ago
At 2/20/2016 2:51:06 PM, Double_R wrote:
We enjoy exercising our critical thinking skills. At least for me anyway.

Fixed. I don't know how the "not" got in there lol
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2/20/2016 3:17:44 PM
Posted: 9 months ago
At 2/20/2016 2:51:44 PM, Double_R wrote:
At 2/20/2016 2:51:06 PM, Double_R wrote:
We enjoy exercising our critical thinking skills. At least for me anyway.

Fixed. I don't know how the "not" got in there lol

Subconsciously you don't feel as though your current sparring partners make for much in the way of exercising.
Here we have an advocate for Islamic arranged marriages demonstrating that children can consent to sex.
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2/20/2016 3:30:29 PM
Posted: 9 months ago
At 2/20/2016 3:17:44 PM, FaustianJustice wrote:
At 2/20/2016 2:51:44 PM, Double_R wrote:
At 2/20/2016 2:51:06 PM, Double_R wrote:
We enjoy exercising our critical thinking skills. At least for me anyway.

Fixed. I don't know how the "not" got in there lol

Subconsciously you don't feel as though your current sparring partners make for much in the way of exercising.

I find dumb arguments to be the most intriguing.
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2/20/2016 3:34:49 PM
Posted: 9 months ago
At 2/20/2016 2:43:12 PM, TREssspa wrote:
I don't understand why?

Perhaps, it's due the massive, constant bombardment of incoherent nonsense from those who believe they have absolute and ultimate truths to offer, and the fact that if we don't accept those truths, horrible atrocities await us.
Marrying a 6 year old and waiting until she reaches puberty and maturity before having consensual sex is better than walking up to
a stranger in a bar and proceeding to have relations with no valid proof of the intent of the person. Muhammad wins. ~ Fatihah
If they don't want to be killed then they have to subdue to the Islamic laws. - Uncung
Without God, you are lower than sh!t. ~ SpiritandTruth
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2/20/2016 4:30:50 PM
Posted: 9 months ago
At 2/20/2016 2:43:12 PM, TREssspa wrote:
I don't understand why?

I suspect they often like to try and take the intellectual high ground and see any challenge to their own dogma as a threat, something they simply must attack, like many things humans do its ego driven.

Harry.
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2/20/2016 4:32:19 PM
Posted: 9 months ago
At 2/20/2016 4:30:50 PM, Dirty.Harry wrote:
At 2/20/2016 2:43:12 PM, TREssspa wrote:
I don't understand why?

I suspect they often like to try and take the intellectual high ground and see any challenge to their own dogma as a threat, something they simply must attack, like many things humans do its ego driven.

Harry.

I see you still don't understand atheism, Harry.
Marrying a 6 year old and waiting until she reaches puberty and maturity before having consensual sex is better than walking up to
a stranger in a bar and proceeding to have relations with no valid proof of the intent of the person. Muhammad wins. ~ Fatihah
If they don't want to be killed then they have to subdue to the Islamic laws. - Uncung
Without God, you are lower than sh!t. ~ SpiritandTruth
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2/20/2016 4:40:17 PM
Posted: 9 months ago
At 2/20/2016 4:32:19 PM, DanneJeRusse wrote:
At 2/20/2016 4:30:50 PM, Dirty.Harry wrote:
At 2/20/2016 2:43:12 PM, TREssspa wrote:
I don't understand why?

I suspect they often like to try and take the intellectual high ground and see any challenge to their own dogma as a threat, something they simply must attack, like many things humans do its ego driven.

Harry.

I see you still don't understand atheism, Harry.

Judge me as you see fit Dummel, believe about me what you will, it's of no concern to me.

Harry.
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2/20/2016 4:41:16 PM
Posted: 9 months ago
This is a generalization about a group of people.
"Where justice is denied, where poverty is enforced, where ignorance prevails, and where any one class is made to feel that society is an organized conspiracy to oppress, rob and degrade them, neither persons nor property will be safe." - Frederick Douglass
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2/20/2016 4:44:09 PM
Posted: 9 months ago
At 2/20/2016 4:40:17 PM, Dirty.Harry wrote:
At 2/20/2016 4:32:19 PM, DanneJeRusse wrote:
At 2/20/2016 4:30:50 PM, Dirty.Harry wrote:
At 2/20/2016 2:43:12 PM, TREssspa wrote:
I don't understand why?

I suspect they often like to try and take the intellectual high ground and see any challenge to their own dogma as a threat, something they simply must attack, like many things humans do its ego driven.

Harry.

I see you still don't understand atheism, Harry.

Judge me as you see fit Dummel, believe about me what you will, it's of no concern to me.

Harry.

When you make comments as you did above about atheism, you show your ignorance, which is of no concern to anyone, of course, but yourself. Or, at least, it should be.
Marrying a 6 year old and waiting until she reaches puberty and maturity before having consensual sex is better than walking up to
a stranger in a bar and proceeding to have relations with no valid proof of the intent of the person. Muhammad wins. ~ Fatihah
If they don't want to be killed then they have to subdue to the Islamic laws. - Uncung
Without God, you are lower than sh!t. ~ SpiritandTruth
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2/20/2016 5:45:42 PM
Posted: 9 months ago
At 2/20/2016 4:44:09 PM, DanneJeRusse wrote:
At 2/20/2016 4:40:17 PM, Dirty.Harry wrote:
At 2/20/2016 4:32:19 PM, DanneJeRusse wrote:
At 2/20/2016 4:30:50 PM, Dirty.Harry wrote:
At 2/20/2016 2:43:12 PM, TREssspa wrote:
I don't understand why?

I suspect they often like to try and take the intellectual high ground and see any challenge to their own dogma as a threat, something they simply must attack, like many things humans do its ego driven.

Harry.

I see you still don't understand atheism, Harry.

Judge me as you see fit Dummel, believe about me what you will, it's of no concern to me.

Harry.

When you make comments as you did above about atheism, you show your ignorance, which is of no concern to anyone, of course, but yourself. Or, at least, it should be.

Except I don't consider you able to objectively judge my level of ignorance, you are not my teacher and I am not your student. You have your opinions but they carry no weight here.

Harry.
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2/20/2016 5:58:27 PM
Posted: 9 months ago
At 2/20/2016 5:45:42 PM, Dirty.Harry wrote:
At 2/20/2016 4:44:09 PM, DanneJeRusse wrote:
At 2/20/2016 4:40:17 PM, Dirty.Harry wrote:
At 2/20/2016 4:32:19 PM, DanneJeRusse wrote:
At 2/20/2016 4:30:50 PM, Dirty.Harry wrote:
At 2/20/2016 2:43:12 PM, TREssspa wrote:
I don't understand why?

I suspect they often like to try and take the intellectual high ground and see any challenge to their own dogma as a threat, something they simply must attack, like many things humans do its ego driven.

Harry.

I see you still don't understand atheism, Harry.

Judge me as you see fit Dummel, believe about me what you will, it's of no concern to me.

Harry.

When you make comments as you did above about atheism, you show your ignorance, which is of no concern to anyone, of course, but yourself. Or, at least, it should be.

Except I don't consider you able to objectively judge my level of ignorance, you are not my teacher and I am not your student. You have your opinions but they carry no weight here.

Harry.

Except for the fact that he is right.
Dirty.Harry
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2/20/2016 6:00:00 PM
Posted: 9 months ago
At 2/20/2016 5:58:27 PM, Double_R wrote:
At 2/20/2016 5:45:42 PM, Dirty.Harry wrote:
At 2/20/2016 4:44:09 PM, DanneJeRusse wrote:
At 2/20/2016 4:40:17 PM, Dirty.Harry wrote:
At 2/20/2016 4:32:19 PM, DanneJeRusse wrote:
At 2/20/2016 4:30:50 PM, Dirty.Harry wrote:
At 2/20/2016 2:43:12 PM, TREssspa wrote:
I don't understand why?

I suspect they often like to try and take the intellectual high ground and see any challenge to their own dogma as a threat, something they simply must attack, like many things humans do its ego driven.

Harry.

I see you still don't understand atheism, Harry.

Judge me as you see fit Dummel, believe about me what you will, it's of no concern to me.

Harry.

When you make comments as you did above about atheism, you show your ignorance, which is of no concern to anyone, of course, but yourself. Or, at least, it should be.

Except I don't consider you able to objectively judge my level of ignorance, you are not my teacher and I am not your student. You have your opinions but they carry no weight here.

Harry.

Except for the fact that he is right.

In your eyes.

Harry.
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2/20/2016 6:02:26 PM
Posted: 9 months ago
At 2/20/2016 6:00:00 PM, Dirty.Harry wrote:
At 2/20/2016 5:58:27 PM, Double_R wrote:
At 2/20/2016 5:45:42 PM, Dirty.Harry wrote:
At 2/20/2016 4:44:09 PM, DanneJeRusse wrote:
At 2/20/2016 4:40:17 PM, Dirty.Harry wrote:
At 2/20/2016 4:32:19 PM, DanneJeRusse wrote:
At 2/20/2016 4:30:50 PM, Dirty.Harry wrote:
At 2/20/2016 2:43:12 PM, TREssspa wrote:
I don't understand why?

I suspect they often like to try and take the intellectual high ground and see any challenge to their own dogma as a threat, something they simply must attack, like many things humans do its ego driven.

Harry.

I see you still don't understand atheism, Harry.

Judge me as you see fit Dummel, believe about me what you will, it's of no concern to me.

Harry.

When you make comments as you did above about atheism, you show your ignorance, which is of no concern to anyone, of course, but yourself. Or, at least, it should be.

Except I don't consider you able to objectively judge my level of ignorance, you are not my teacher and I am not your student. You have your opinions but they carry no weight here.

Harry.

Except for the fact that he is right.

In your eyes.

Harry.

In the eyes of anyone who actually understands atheism, and since your comment is specifically in regards to those who understand atheism (ie atheists) that makes you objectively wrong.

Deny that all you will. While you're at it go ahead and deny that the earth is round.
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2/20/2016 6:34:33 PM
Posted: 9 months ago
At 2/20/2016 6:02:26 PM, Double_R wrote:
At 2/20/2016 6:00:00 PM, Dirty.Harry wrote:
At 2/20/2016 5:58:27 PM, Double_R wrote:
At 2/20/2016 5:45:42 PM, Dirty.Harry wrote:
At 2/20/2016 4:44:09 PM, DanneJeRusse wrote:
At 2/20/2016 4:40:17 PM, Dirty.Harry wrote:
At 2/20/2016 4:32:19 PM, DanneJeRusse wrote:
At 2/20/2016 4:30:50 PM, Dirty.Harry wrote:
At 2/20/2016 2:43:12 PM, TREssspa wrote:
I don't understand why?

I suspect they often like to try and take the intellectual high ground and see any challenge to their own dogma as a threat, something they simply must attack, like many things humans do its ego driven.

Harry.

I see you still don't understand atheism, Harry.

Judge me as you see fit Dummel, believe about me what you will, it's of no concern to me.

Harry.

When you make comments as you did above about atheism, you show your ignorance, which is of no concern to anyone, of course, but yourself. Or, at least, it should be.

Except I don't consider you able to objectively judge my level of ignorance, you are not my teacher and I am not your student. You have your opinions but they carry no weight here.

Harry.

Except for the fact that he is right.

In your eyes.

Harry.

In the eyes of anyone who actually understands atheism, and since your comment is specifically in regards to those who understand atheism (ie atheists) that makes you objectively wrong.

Deny that all you will. While you're at it go ahead and deny that the earth is round.

This is what I write and which Dummel got upset about:

"I suspect they often like to try and take the intellectual high ground and see any challenge to their own dogma as a threat, something they simply must attack, like many things humans do its ego driven."

I've just reviewed it and stand by it, you may disagree but there's nothing there that demonstrates a lack of understanding - by all means contest it though if you want.

Harry.
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2/20/2016 6:38:38 PM
Posted: 9 months ago
At 2/20/2016 6:34:33 PM, Dirty.Harry wrote:
At 2/20/2016 6:02:26 PM, Double_R wrote:
In the eyes of anyone who actually understands atheism, and since your comment is specifically in regards to those who understand atheism (ie atheists) that makes you objectively wrong.

Deny that all you will. While you're at it go ahead and deny that the earth is round.

This is what I write and which Dummel got upset about:

"I suspect they often like to try and take the intellectual high ground and see any challenge to their own dogma as a threat, something they simply must attack, like many things humans do its ego driven."

I've just reviewed it and stand by it, you may disagree but there's nothing there that demonstrates a lack of understanding - by all means contest it though if you want.

I'm just pointing out that your suspicion is factually wrong, but it's not worth arguing with someone who thinks that they know more about others then others know about themselves. Enjoy your delusion.
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2/20/2016 6:42:20 PM
Posted: 9 months ago
At 2/20/2016 6:34:33 PM, Dirty.Harry wrote:
At 2/20/2016 6:02:26 PM, Double_R wrote:
At 2/20/2016 6:00:00 PM, Dirty.Harry wrote:
At 2/20/2016 5:58:27 PM, Double_R wrote:
At 2/20/2016 5:45:42 PM, Dirty.Harry wrote:
At 2/20/2016 4:44:09 PM, DanneJeRusse wrote:
At 2/20/2016 4:40:17 PM, Dirty.Harry wrote:
At 2/20/2016 4:32:19 PM, DanneJeRusse wrote:
At 2/20/2016 4:30:50 PM, Dirty.Harry wrote:
At 2/20/2016 2:43:12 PM, TREssspa wrote:
I don't understand why?

I suspect they often like to try and take the intellectual high ground and see any challenge to their own dogma as a threat, something they simply must attack, like many things humans do its ego driven.

Harry.

I see you still don't understand atheism, Harry.

Judge me as you see fit Dummel, believe about me what you will, it's of no concern to me.

Harry.

When you make comments as you did above about atheism, you show your ignorance, which is of no concern to anyone, of course, but yourself. Or, at least, it should be.

Except I don't consider you able to objectively judge my level of ignorance, you are not my teacher and I am not your student. You have your opinions but they carry no weight here.

Harry.

Except for the fact that he is right.

In your eyes.

Harry.

In the eyes of anyone who actually understands atheism, and since your comment is specifically in regards to those who understand atheism (ie atheists) that makes you objectively wrong.

Deny that all you will. While you're at it go ahead and deny that the earth is round.

This is what I write and which Dummel got upset about:

"I suspect they often like to try and take the intellectual high ground and see any challenge to their own dogma as a threat, something they simply must attack, like many things humans do its ego driven."

I've just reviewed it and stand by it, you may disagree but there's nothing there that demonstrates a lack of understanding - by all means contest it though if you want.

Harry.

Your statement is actually more applicable to Theists, since they actually have a dogma to be threatened. Atheism entails only one thing, a lack of belief in a deity or deities. You demonstrate an objective lack of understanding of that simple fact and you project properties of other groups onto atheists as a whole. It is self-evidently wrong to anyone who actually understands so no challenge is necessary. A challenge would be useless in any case since your stance is not based on reason and thus cannot be changed by reason.
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2/20/2016 6:50:39 PM
Posted: 9 months ago
At 2/20/2016 6:38:38 PM, Double_R wrote:
At 2/20/2016 6:34:33 PM, Dirty.Harry wrote:
At 2/20/2016 6:02:26 PM, Double_R wrote:
In the eyes of anyone who actually understands atheism, and since your comment is specifically in regards to those who understand atheism (ie atheists) that makes you objectively wrong.

Deny that all you will. While you're at it go ahead and deny that the earth is round.

This is what I write and which Dummel got upset about:

"I suspect they often like to try and take the intellectual high ground and see any challenge to their own dogma as a threat, something they simply must attack, like many things humans do its ego driven."

I've just reviewed it and stand by it, you may disagree but there's nothing there that demonstrates a lack of understanding - by all means contest it though if you want.

I'm just pointing out that your suspicion is factually wrong, but it's not worth arguing with someone who thinks that they know more about others then others know about themselves. Enjoy your delusion.

Delusion?

So not a single atheist is motivated by ego? not a single atheist is dogmatic?

Harry.
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2/20/2016 7:05:49 PM
Posted: 9 months ago
At 2/20/2016 6:50:39 PM, Dirty.Harry wrote:
At 2/20/2016 6:38:38 PM, Double_R wrote:
At 2/20/2016 6:34:33 PM, Dirty.Harry wrote:
At 2/20/2016 6:02:26 PM, Double_R wrote:
In the eyes of anyone who actually understands atheism, and since your comment is specifically in regards to those who understand atheism (ie atheists) that makes you objectively wrong.

Deny that all you will. While you're at it go ahead and deny that the earth is round.

This is what I write and which Dummel got upset about:

"I suspect they often like to try and take the intellectual high ground and see any challenge to their own dogma as a threat, something they simply must attack, like many things humans do its ego driven."

I've just reviewed it and stand by it, you may disagree but there's nothing there that demonstrates a lack of understanding - by all means contest it though if you want.

I'm just pointing out that your suspicion is factually wrong, but it's not worth arguing with someone who thinks that they know more about others then others know about themselves. Enjoy your delusion.

Delusion?

So not a single atheist is motivated by ego? not a single atheist is dogmatic?

Harry.

Since my esteemed colleagues have already explained that which you don't understand, I would like to point out you just shifted the goalposts by going from atheism has dogma to atheists are dogmatic. Well done, Harry. LOL.
Marrying a 6 year old and waiting until she reaches puberty and maturity before having consensual sex is better than walking up to
a stranger in a bar and proceeding to have relations with no valid proof of the intent of the person. Muhammad wins. ~ Fatihah
If they don't want to be killed then they have to subdue to the Islamic laws. - Uncung
Without God, you are lower than sh!t. ~ SpiritandTruth
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2/20/2016 7:09:38 PM
Posted: 9 months ago
At 2/20/2016 6:42:20 PM, dhardage wrote:
At 2/20/2016 6:34:33 PM, Dirty.Harry wrote:
At 2/20/2016 6:02:26 PM, Double_R wrote:
At 2/20/2016 6:00:00 PM, Dirty.Harry wrote:
At 2/20/2016 5:58:27 PM, Double_R wrote:
At 2/20/2016 5:45:42 PM, Dirty.Harry wrote:
At 2/20/2016 4:44:09 PM, DanneJeRusse wrote:
At 2/20/2016 4:40:17 PM, Dirty.Harry wrote:
At 2/20/2016 4:32:19 PM, DanneJeRusse wrote:
At 2/20/2016 4:30:50 PM, Dirty.Harry wrote:
At 2/20/2016 2:43:12 PM, TREssspa wrote:
I don't understand why?

I suspect they often like to try and take the intellectual high ground and see any challenge to their own dogma as a threat, something they simply must attack, like many things humans do its ego driven.

Harry.

I see you still don't understand atheism, Harry.

Judge me as you see fit Dummel, believe about me what you will, it's of no concern to me.

Harry.

When you make comments as you did above about atheism, you show your ignorance, which is of no concern to anyone, of course, but yourself. Or, at least, it should be.

Except I don't consider you able to objectively judge my level of ignorance, you are not my teacher and I am not your student. You have your opinions but they carry no weight here.

Harry.

Except for the fact that he is right.

In your eyes.

Harry.

In the eyes of anyone who actually understands atheism, and since your comment is specifically in regards to those who understand atheism (ie atheists) that makes you objectively wrong.

Deny that all you will. While you're at it go ahead and deny that the earth is round.

This is what I write and which Dummel got upset about:

"I suspect they often like to try and take the intellectual high ground and see any challenge to their own dogma as a threat, something they simply must attack, like many things humans do its ego driven."

I've just reviewed it and stand by it, you may disagree but there's nothing there that demonstrates a lack of understanding - by all means contest it though if you want.

Harry.

Your statement is actually more applicable to Theists, since they actually have a dogma to be threatened. Atheism entails only one thing, a lack of belief in a deity or deities.

So we should refer to them as agnostic then yes? There's nothing wrong with withholding belief when one isn't convinced there's sufficient evidence, I do that just as any other rational being does.

But many atheists go further - for example one well known one in particular thinks it's delusional to not be an atheist, that's dogma right there.

You demonstrate an objective lack of understanding of that simple fact and you project properties of other groups onto atheists as a whole. It is self-evidently wrong to anyone who actually understands so no challenge is necessary. A challenge would be useless in any case since your stance is not based on reason and thus cannot be changed by reason.

Everything I believe is based on reason.

Harry.
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2/20/2016 7:14:10 PM
Posted: 9 months ago
At 2/20/2016 7:05:49 PM, DanneJeRusse wrote:
At 2/20/2016 6:50:39 PM, Dirty.Harry wrote:
At 2/20/2016 6:38:38 PM, Double_R wrote:
At 2/20/2016 6:34:33 PM, Dirty.Harry wrote:
At 2/20/2016 6:02:26 PM, Double_R wrote:
In the eyes of anyone who actually understands atheism, and since your comment is specifically in regards to those who understand atheism (ie atheists) that makes you objectively wrong.

Deny that all you will. While you're at it go ahead and deny that the earth is round.

This is what I write and which Dummel got upset about:

"I suspect they often like to try and take the intellectual high ground and see any challenge to their own dogma as a threat, something they simply must attack, like many things humans do its ego driven."

I've just reviewed it and stand by it, you may disagree but there's nothing there that demonstrates a lack of understanding - by all means contest it though if you want.

I'm just pointing out that your suspicion is factually wrong, but it's not worth arguing with someone who thinks that they know more about others then others know about themselves. Enjoy your delusion.

Delusion?

So not a single atheist is motivated by ego? not a single atheist is dogmatic?

Harry.

Since my esteemed colleagues have already explained that which you don't understand, I would like to point out you just shifted the goalposts by going from atheism has dogma to atheists are dogmatic. Well done, Harry. LOL.

Many atheists are dogmatic, why the shock horror surprise?

Richard Dawkins insists that anyone not an atheist is suffering from a delusion, how he can go from withholding belief (due to lack of convincing evidence) which I fully respect to asserting disbelief and not be guilty of dogma isn't clear to me Dummel.

Oh and I wasn't aware you guys all worked together, where do you all work may I ask?

Harry.
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2/20/2016 7:35:43 PM
Posted: 9 months ago
At 2/20/2016 7:14:10 PM, Dirty.Harry wrote:
At 2/20/2016 7:05:49 PM, DanneJeRusse wrote:
At 2/20/2016 6:50:39 PM, Dirty.Harry wrote:
At 2/20/2016 6:38:38 PM, Double_R wrote:
At 2/20/2016 6:34:33 PM, Dirty.Harry wrote:
At 2/20/2016 6:02:26 PM, Double_R wrote:
In the eyes of anyone who actually understands atheism, and since your comment is specifically in regards to those who understand atheism (ie atheists) that makes you objectively wrong.

Deny that all you will. While you're at it go ahead and deny that the earth is round.

This is what I write and which Dummel got upset about:

"I suspect they often like to try and take the intellectual high ground and see any challenge to their own dogma as a threat, something they simply must attack, like many things humans do its ego driven."

I've just reviewed it and stand by it, you may disagree but there's nothing there that demonstrates a lack of understanding - by all means contest it though if you want.

I'm just pointing out that your suspicion is factually wrong, but it's not worth arguing with someone who thinks that they know more about others then others know about themselves. Enjoy your delusion.

Delusion?

So not a single atheist is motivated by ego? not a single atheist is dogmatic?

Harry.

Since my esteemed colleagues have already explained that which you don't understand, I would like to point out you just shifted the goalposts by going from atheism has dogma to atheists are dogmatic. Well done, Harry. LOL.

Many atheists are dogmatic, why the shock horror surprise?

Are they, Harry? Where is your evidence to that and what exactly are they dogmatic about and what exactly is the dogma you refer?

Richard Dawkins insists that anyone not an atheist is suffering from a delusion, how he can go from withholding belief (due to lack of convincing evidence) which I fully respect to asserting disbelief and not be guilty of dogma isn't clear to me Dummel.

Yes, I know stuff like that isn't clear to you, that's part of your problem.

Oh and I wasn't aware you guys all worked together, where do you all work may I ask?

Harry.
Marrying a 6 year old and waiting until she reaches puberty and maturity before having consensual sex is better than walking up to
a stranger in a bar and proceeding to have relations with no valid proof of the intent of the person. Muhammad wins. ~ Fatihah
If they don't want to be killed then they have to subdue to the Islamic laws. - Uncung
Without God, you are lower than sh!t. ~ SpiritandTruth
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2/20/2016 7:41:05 PM
Posted: 9 months ago
At 2/20/2016 7:35:43 PM, DanneJeRusse wrote:
At 2/20/2016 7:14:10 PM, Dirty.Harry wrote:
At 2/20/2016 7:05:49 PM, DanneJeRusse wrote:
At 2/20/2016 6:50:39 PM, Dirty.Harry wrote:
At 2/20/2016 6:38:38 PM, Double_R wrote:
At 2/20/2016 6:34:33 PM, Dirty.Harry wrote:
At 2/20/2016 6:02:26 PM, Double_R wrote:
In the eyes of anyone who actually understands atheism, and since your comment is specifically in regards to those who understand atheism (ie atheists) that makes you objectively wrong.

Deny that all you will. While you're at it go ahead and deny that the earth is round.

This is what I write and which Dummel got upset about:

"I suspect they often like to try and take the intellectual high ground and see any challenge to their own dogma as a threat, something they simply must attack, like many things humans do its ego driven."

I've just reviewed it and stand by it, you may disagree but there's nothing there that demonstrates a lack of understanding - by all means contest it though if you want.

I'm just pointing out that your suspicion is factually wrong, but it's not worth arguing with someone who thinks that they know more about others then others know about themselves. Enjoy your delusion.

Delusion?

So not a single atheist is motivated by ego? not a single atheist is dogmatic?

Harry.

Since my esteemed colleagues have already explained that which you don't understand, I would like to point out you just shifted the goalposts by going from atheism has dogma to atheists are dogmatic. Well done, Harry. LOL.

Many atheists are dogmatic, why the shock horror surprise?

Are they, Harry? Where is your evidence to that and what exactly are they dogmatic about and what exactly is the dogma you refer?


Yes they are, look no further than the mirror and this forum as well as the science forum.

Richard Dawkins insists that anyone not an atheist is suffering from a delusion, how he can go from withholding belief (due to lack of convincing evidence) which I fully respect to asserting disbelief and not be guilty of dogma isn't clear to me Dummel.

Yes, I know stuff like that isn't clear to you, that's part of your problem.


Thanks, perhaps you can explain how withholding belief in X becomes an assertion that X is a delusion? can you do that or does asking you a question still cause you anxiety?

Oh and I wasn't aware you guys all worked together, where do you all work may I ask?

Harry.
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2/20/2016 7:42:10 PM
Posted: 9 months ago
At 2/20/2016 6:50:39 PM, Dirty.Harry wrote:
At 2/20/2016 6:38:38 PM, Double_R wrote:
At 2/20/2016 6:34:33 PM, Dirty.Harry wrote:
At 2/20/2016 6:02:26 PM, Double_R wrote:
In the eyes of anyone who actually understands atheism, and since your comment is specifically in regards to those who understand atheism (ie atheists) that makes you objectively wrong.

Deny that all you will. While you're at it go ahead and deny that the earth is round.

This is what I write and which Dummel got upset about:

"I suspect they often like to try and take the intellectual high ground and see any challenge to their own dogma as a threat, something they simply must attack, like many things humans do its ego driven."

I've just reviewed it and stand by it, you may disagree but there's nothing there that demonstrates a lack of understanding - by all means contest it though if you want.

I'm just pointing out that your suspicion is factually wrong, but it's not worth arguing with someone who thinks that they know more about others then others know about themselves. Enjoy your delusion.

Delusion?

So not a single atheist is motivated by ego? not a single atheist is dogmatic?

Harry.

Dogma, ego and biases are constant human conditions we must all fight.
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2/20/2016 7:42:46 PM
Posted: 9 months ago
At 2/20/2016 4:30:50 PM, Dirty.Harry wrote:
At 2/20/2016 2:43:12 PM, TREssspa wrote:
I don't understand why?

I suspect they often like to try and take the intellectual high ground and see any challenge to their own dogma as a threat, something they simply must attack, like many things humans do its ego driven.

Harry.

You are partly right, in that many atheists come to be through intellectual thinking.
Where as theists come to be through egocentric thinking (especially those that believe their god needs defending) like you Harry.
Shouldn"t the truth of God stand on its own?
How do the religious reconcile their adoration of a god who acts on their pettiest of wishes but ignores the suffering of innocent children? How can the religious, in all their arrogance, even pray for their own selfish needs while every second of every day there are innocent children suffering in a myriad of ways throughout the world?
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2/20/2016 7:45:30 PM
Posted: 9 months ago
At 2/20/2016 7:41:05 PM, Dirty.Harry wrote:
At 2/20/2016 7:35:43 PM, DanneJeRusse wrote:
At 2/20/2016 7:14:10 PM, Dirty.Harry wrote:
At 2/20/2016 7:05:49 PM, DanneJeRusse wrote:
At 2/20/2016 6:50:39 PM, Dirty.Harry wrote:
At 2/20/2016 6:38:38 PM, Double_R wrote:
At 2/20/2016 6:34:33 PM, Dirty.Harry wrote:
At 2/20/2016 6:02:26 PM, Double_R wrote:
In the eyes of anyone who actually understands atheism, and since your comment is specifically in regards to those who understand atheism (ie atheists) that makes you objectively wrong.

Deny that all you will. While you're at it go ahead and deny that the earth is round.

This is what I write and which Dummel got upset about:

"I suspect they often like to try and take the intellectual high ground and see any challenge to their own dogma as a threat, something they simply must attack, like many things humans do its ego driven."

I've just reviewed it and stand by it, you may disagree but there's nothing there that demonstrates a lack of understanding - by all means contest it though if you want.

I'm just pointing out that your suspicion is factually wrong, but it's not worth arguing with someone who thinks that they know more about others then others know about themselves. Enjoy your delusion.

Delusion?

So not a single atheist is motivated by ego? not a single atheist is dogmatic?

Harry.

Since my esteemed colleagues have already explained that which you don't understand, I would like to point out you just shifted the goalposts by going from atheism has dogma to atheists are dogmatic. Well done, Harry. LOL.

Many atheists are dogmatic, why the shock horror surprise?

Are they, Harry? Where is your evidence to that and what exactly are they dogmatic about and what exactly is the dogma you refer?


Yes they are, look no further than the mirror and this forum as well as the science forum.

Ah, once again Harry is just blowing smoke out of his a$$.

Richard Dawkins insists that anyone not an atheist is suffering from a delusion, how he can go from withholding belief (due to lack of convincing evidence) which I fully respect to asserting disbelief and not be guilty of dogma isn't clear to me Dummel.

Yes, I know stuff like that isn't clear to you, that's part of your problem.


Thanks, perhaps you can explain how withholding belief in X becomes an assertion that X is a delusion? can you do that or does asking you a question still cause you anxiety?

Yes Harry, here is me having anxiety over your questions ---> ROTFLMAO!!!

Oh and I wasn't aware you guys all worked together, where do you all work may I ask?

Harry.
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2/20/2016 7:52:21 PM
Posted: 9 months ago
At 2/20/2016 7:45:30 PM, DanneJeRusse wrote:
At 2/20/2016 7:41:05 PM, Dirty.Harry wrote:
At 2/20/2016 7:35:43 PM, DanneJeRusse wrote:
At 2/20/2016 7:14:10 PM, Dirty.Harry wrote:
At 2/20/2016 7:05:49 PM, DanneJeRusse wrote:
At 2/20/2016 6:50:39 PM, Dirty.Harry wrote:
At 2/20/2016 6:38:38 PM, Double_R wrote:
At 2/20/2016 6:34:33 PM, Dirty.Harry wrote:
At 2/20/2016 6:02:26 PM, Double_R wrote:
In the eyes of anyone who actually understands atheism, and since your comment is specifically in regards to those who understand atheism (ie atheists) that makes you objectively wrong.

Deny that all you will. While you're at it go ahead and deny that the earth is round.

This is what I write and which Dummel got upset about:

"I suspect they often like to try and take the intellectual high ground and see any challenge to their own dogma as a threat, something they simply must attack, like many things humans do its ego driven."

I've just reviewed it and stand by it, you may disagree but there's nothing there that demonstrates a lack of understanding - by all means contest it though if you want.

I'm just pointing out that your suspicion is factually wrong, but it's not worth arguing with someone who thinks that they know more about others then others know about themselves. Enjoy your delusion.

Delusion?

So not a single atheist is motivated by ego? not a single atheist is dogmatic?

Harry.

Since my esteemed colleagues have already explained that which you don't understand, I would like to point out you just shifted the goalposts by going from atheism has dogma to atheists are dogmatic. Well done, Harry. LOL.

Many atheists are dogmatic, why the shock horror surprise?

Are they, Harry? Where is your evidence to that and what exactly are they dogmatic about and what exactly is the dogma you refer?


Yes they are, look no further than the mirror and this forum as well as the science forum.

Ah, once again Harry is just blowing smoke out of his a$$.

Richard Dawkins insists that anyone not an atheist is suffering from a delusion, how he can go from withholding belief (due to lack of convincing evidence) which I fully respect to asserting disbelief and not be guilty of dogma isn't clear to me Dummel.

Yes, I know stuff like that isn't clear to you, that's part of your problem.


Thanks, perhaps you can explain how withholding belief in X becomes an assertion that X is a delusion? can you do that or does asking you a question still cause you anxiety?

Yes Harry, here is me having anxiety over your questions ---> ROTFLMAO!!!

Oh and I wasn't aware you guys all worked together, where do you all work may I ask?

Harry.

Sorry to nag but you overlooked this bit "Thanks, perhaps you can explain how withholding belief in X becomes an assertion that X is a delusion?"

Thanks.
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2/20/2016 7:58:39 PM
Posted: 9 months ago
At 2/20/2016 7:52:21 PM, Dirty.Harry wrote:
At 2/20/2016 7:45:30 PM, DanneJeRusse wrote:
At 2/20/2016 7:41:05 PM, Dirty.Harry wrote:
At 2/20/2016 7:35:43 PM, DanneJeRusse wrote:
At 2/20/2016 7:14:10 PM, Dirty.Harry wrote:
At 2/20/2016 7:05:49 PM, DanneJeRusse wrote:
At 2/20/2016 6:50:39 PM, Dirty.Harry wrote:
At 2/20/2016 6:38:38 PM, Double_R wrote:
At 2/20/2016 6:34:33 PM, Dirty.Harry wrote:
At 2/20/2016 6:02:26 PM, Double_R wrote:
In the eyes of anyone who actually understands atheism, and since your comment is specifically in regards to those who understand atheism (ie atheists) that makes you objectively wrong.

Deny that all you will. While you're at it go ahead and deny that the earth is round.

This is what I write and which Dummel got upset about:

"I suspect they often like to try and take the intellectual high ground and see any challenge to their own dogma as a threat, something they simply must attack, like many things humans do its ego driven."

I've just reviewed it and stand by it, you may disagree but there's nothing there that demonstrates a lack of understanding - by all means contest it though if you want.

I'm just pointing out that your suspicion is factually wrong, but it's not worth arguing with someone who thinks that they know more about others then others know about themselves. Enjoy your delusion.

Delusion?

So not a single atheist is motivated by ego? not a single atheist is dogmatic?

Harry.

Since my esteemed colleagues have already explained that which you don't understand, I would like to point out you just shifted the goalposts by going from atheism has dogma to atheists are dogmatic. Well done, Harry. LOL.

Many atheists are dogmatic, why the shock horror surprise?

Are they, Harry? Where is your evidence to that and what exactly are they dogmatic about and what exactly is the dogma you refer?


Yes they are, look no further than the mirror and this forum as well as the science forum.

Ah, once again Harry is just blowing smoke out of his a$$.

Richard Dawkins insists that anyone not an atheist is suffering from a delusion, how he can go from withholding belief (due to lack of convincing evidence) which I fully respect to asserting disbelief and not be guilty of dogma isn't clear to me Dummel.

Yes, I know stuff like that isn't clear to you, that's part of your problem.


Thanks, perhaps you can explain how withholding belief in X becomes an assertion that X is a delusion? can you do that or does asking you a question still cause you anxiety?

Yes Harry, here is me having anxiety over your questions ---> ROTFLMAO!!!

Oh and I wasn't aware you guys all worked together, where do you all work may I ask?

Harry.

Sorry to nag but you overlooked this bit "Thanks, perhaps you can explain how withholding belief in X becomes an assertion that X is a delusion?"

Thanks.

Sorry Harry, but the premise does not lead to the conclusion, those are two different answers. Withholding belief in X simply means one is not convinced of the claim, while the other could be a result of someone claiming X is a fact of reality, for example.
Marrying a 6 year old and waiting until she reaches puberty and maturity before having consensual sex is better than walking up to
a stranger in a bar and proceeding to have relations with no valid proof of the intent of the person. Muhammad wins. ~ Fatihah
If they don't want to be killed then they have to subdue to the Islamic laws. - Uncung
Without God, you are lower than sh!t. ~ SpiritandTruth