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AWSM0055
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2/21/2016 1:59:11 PM
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Fellow atheist brothers, if God was proven beyond a reasonable doubt to exist (I'm talking about a deistic God), would you be happy or unhappy about that? What do you think?
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2/21/2016 2:31:25 PM
Posted: 9 months ago
At 2/21/2016 1:59:11 PM, AWSM0055 wrote:
If God was proven beyond a reasonable doubt to exist (I'm talking about a deistic God), would you be happy or unhappy about that? What do you think?

I'm perplexed by the question, Awsm...

How do you recognise that such a being:
1) is metaphysical and not simply physical in inexplicable ways;
2) actually created this universe, and is not simply capable of creating a universe;
3) is unique in the ability to create a universe;
4) is one being, and not many;
5) is the same being each time you encounter it, and not some other being with similar knowledge;
6) is honest, trustworthy and benign;
7) is precisely the being referenced in scripture;
8) is the only such being so referenced;
9) is more important than your own life and choices?

You see, I don't think God is valid even as a conjecture. It's too vague and meaningless to falsify, much less prove.

You could ask me how I felt about unicorns or pixies if they were proven to exist and I could answer, but I think the scriptural myth called God is actually less meaningful than things that are false, and ancient authors have hoodwinked themselves and the world into believing that something sufficiently meaningless is actually transcendental. :)
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2/21/2016 2:44:10 PM
Posted: 9 months ago
At 2/21/2016 1:59:11 PM, AWSM0055 wrote:
Fellow atheist brothers, if God was proven beyond a reasonable doubt to exist (I'm talking about a deistic God), would you be happy or unhappy about that? What do you think?

If something "freaky" happened like the whole sky was a big face looking at us , and did not talk. I would wonder who's religions God was that. I would not be happy or unhappy. I would be scared.

If the big face covering the whole sky spoke . And made it clear what he or she is and what it wants , if they made it clear what religion it was , I would do what it says . And I would be scared. Then I would live out my life in that religion. And be happy that everyone is on the same page.

something freaky has to happen. Mega unnatural, And everyone has to see it. The proven part doesn't matter. Cause you can't explain something big like the face that covers the sky.
bulproof
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2/21/2016 3:33:59 PM
Posted: 9 months ago
At 2/21/2016 1:59:11 PM, AWSM0055 wrote:
Fellow atheist brothers, if God was proven beyond a reasonable doubt to exist (I'm talking about a deistic God), would you be happy or unhappy about that? What do you think?
If a deistic god exists, why would I give a fat rat's arse? It has no meaning or effect.
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Double_R
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2/21/2016 5:55:04 PM
Posted: 9 months ago
At 2/21/2016 1:59:11 PM, AWSM0055 wrote:
Fellow atheist brothers, if God was proven beyond a reasonable doubt to exist (I'm talking about a deistic God), would you be happy or unhappy about that? What do you think?

The effect of a deistic God is indistinguishable from the effect of a God that does not exist, so I could care less.
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2/21/2016 6:33:53 PM
Posted: 9 months ago
At 2/21/2016 1:59:11 PM, AWSM0055 wrote:
Fellow atheist brothers, if God was proven beyond a reasonable doubt to exist (I'm talking about a deistic God), would you be happy or unhappy about that? What do you think?

It depends on what type of God it is that exists. If God did exist, I doubt he would be anything close to the way people describe him.

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2/21/2016 6:44:05 PM
Posted: 9 months ago
At 2/21/2016 1:59:11 PM, AWSM0055 wrote:
Fellow atheist brothers, if God was proven beyond a reasonable doubt to exist (I'm talking about a deistic God), would you be happy or unhappy about that? What do you think?

Would entirely depend on what the therefore true religion would be.

- What becomes morally okay?

- What is there to look forward to after death?
----- Is there more than one possible afterlife (i.e. hell vs heaven), and if so, what are the entrance requirements?
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2/21/2016 7:11:59 PM
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At 2/21/2016 1:59:11 PM, AWSM0055 wrote:
Fellow atheist brothers, if God was proven beyond a reasonable doubt to exist (I'm talking about a deistic God), would you be happy or unhappy about that? What do you think?

A few times in the past, when the "God must exist" type argument rears its head, I have asked the poster, "Ok. Let's assume this vaguely defined God exists. What now?"

I have never gotten a straight answer to that. Once the central argument is conceded-- baffled silence. The great thing about being an atheist is that we are usually able to take new information as it comes and not project our wants, needs, and beliefs onto reality.
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Skepticalone
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2/21/2016 7:17:56 PM
Posted: 9 months ago
At 2/21/2016 1:59:11 PM, AWSM0055 wrote:
Fellow atheist brothers, if God was proven beyond a reasonable doubt to exist (I'm talking about a deistic God), would you be happy or unhappy about that? What do you think?

Whether or not a deistic god exists would have little effect on my life or the lives of humans in general. I see no reason to be happy or unhappy about it.
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2/21/2016 9:12:14 PM
Posted: 9 months ago
At 2/21/2016 2:31:25 PM, RuvDraba wrote:
At 2/21/2016 1:59:11 PM, AWSM0055 wrote:
If God was proven beyond a reasonable doubt to exist (I'm talking about a deistic God), would you be happy or unhappy about that? What do you think?

I'm perplexed by the question, Awsm...

How do you recognise that such a being:
1) is metaphysical and not simply physical in inexplicable ways;
2) actually created this universe, and is not simply capable of creating a universe;
3) is unique in the ability to create a universe;
4) is one being, and not many;
5) is the same being each time you encounter it, and not some other being with similar knowledge;
6) is honest, trustworthy and benign;
7) is precisely the being referenced in scripture;
8) is the only such being so referenced;
9) is more important than your own life and choices?

You see, I don't think God is valid even as a conjecture. It's too vague and meaningless to falsify, much less prove.

You could ask me how I felt about unicorns or pixies if they were proven to exist and I could answer, but I think the scriptural myth called God is actually less meaningful than things that are false, and ancient authors have hoodwinked themselves and the world into believing that something sufficiently meaningless is actually transcendental. :)
Dont be a sh!t. Just answer the question.
RuvDraba
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2/21/2016 9:24:04 PM
Posted: 9 months ago
At 2/21/2016 9:12:14 PM, janesix wrote:
At 2/21/2016 2:31:25 PM, RuvDraba wrote:
At 2/21/2016 1:59:11 PM, AWSM0055 wrote:
If God was proven beyond a reasonable doubt to exist (I'm talking about a deistic God), would you be happy or unhappy about that? What do you think?
I'm perplexed by the question, Awsm...
How do you recognise that such a being:
1) is metaphysical and not simply physical in inexplicable ways;
2) actually created this universe, and is not simply capable of creating a universe;
3) is unique in the ability to create a universe;
4) is one being, and not many;
5) is the same being each time you encounter it, and not some other being with similar knowledge;
6) is honest, trustworthy and benign;
7) is precisely the being referenced in scripture;
8) is the only such being so referenced;
9) is more important than your own life and choices?
You see, I don't think God is valid even as a conjecture. It's too vague and meaningless to falsify, much less prove.
You could ask me how I felt about unicorns or pixies if they were proven to exist and I could answer, but I think the scriptural myth called God is actually less meaningful than things that are false, and ancient authors have hoodwinked themselves and the world into believing that something sufficiently meaningless is actually transcendental. :)
Just answer the question.

The question is invalid, Jane, because nobody could ever recognise the thing they called God, whatever they observed. If I accepted the premise of the question it would be legitimate to ask me how I'd know that what I saw was God, and not something else -- and I have no criteria or tests I could use, and nobody has ever supplied me any.

So it'd be dishonest to accept the premise. The most I could answer is how I'd feel if people believed they saw God.

It'd disturb me profoundly to see my society or my species turn insane.
janesix
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2/21/2016 9:28:54 PM
Posted: 9 months ago
At 2/21/2016 9:24:04 PM, RuvDraba wrote:
At 2/21/2016 9:12:14 PM, janesix wrote:
At 2/21/2016 2:31:25 PM, RuvDraba wrote:
At 2/21/2016 1:59:11 PM, AWSM0055 wrote:
If God was proven beyond a reasonable doubt to exist (I'm talking about a deistic God), would you be happy or unhappy about that? What do you think?
I'm perplexed by the question, Awsm...
How do you recognise that such a being:
1) is metaphysical and not simply physical in inexplicable ways;
2) actually created this universe, and is not simply capable of creating a universe;
3) is unique in the ability to create a universe;
4) is one being, and not many;
5) is the same being each time you encounter it, and not some other being with similar knowledge;
6) is honest, trustworthy and benign;
7) is precisely the being referenced in scripture;
8) is the only such being so referenced;
9) is more important than your own life and choices?
You see, I don't think God is valid even as a conjecture. It's too vague and meaningless to falsify, much less prove.
You could ask me how I felt about unicorns or pixies if they were proven to exist and I could answer, but I think the scriptural myth called God is actually less meaningful than things that are false, and ancient authors have hoodwinked themselves and the world into believing that something sufficiently meaningless is actually transcendental. :)
Just answer the question.

The question is invalid, Jane, because nobody could ever recognise the thing they called God, whatever they observed. If I accepted the premise of the question it would be legitimate to ask me how I'd know that what I saw was God, and not something else -- and I have no criteria or tests I could use, and nobody has ever supplied me any.

So it'd be dishonest to accept the premise. The most I could answer is how I'd feel if people believed they saw God.

It'd disturb me profoundly to see my society or my species turn insane.
Insane isnt always bad. Its where i get my most profound insights.