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2/26/2016 5:51:22 PM
Posted: 9 months ago
Satan, meaning "adversary, Arabic, shaitan, meaning, "astray", "distant", or sometimes "devil") is a figure appearing in the texts of the Abrahamic religions who brings evil and temptation, and is known as the deceiver who leads humanity astray. Some religious groups teach that he originated as an angel who fell out of favor with God, seducing humanity into the ways of sin, and who has power in the fallen world. In the Hebrew Bible and the New Testament, Satan is primarily an accuser and adversary, a decidedly malevolent entity, also called the devil, who possesses demonic qualities.
"What Donald Trump is doing is representing the absolute heartbreak, and anger, and frustration at a government gone mad."

http://youtu.be...
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2/26/2016 7:25:21 PM
Posted: 9 months ago
At 2/26/2016 5:51:22 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
Satan, meaning "adversary, Arabic, shaitan, meaning, "astray", "distant", or sometimes "devil") is a figure appearing in the texts of the Abrahamic religions who brings evil and temptation, and is known as the deceiver who leads humanity astray. Some religious groups teach that he originated as an angel who fell out of favor with God, seducing humanity into the ways of sin, and who has power in the fallen world. In the Hebrew Bible and the New Testament, Satan is primarily an accuser and adversary, a decidedly malevolent entity, also called the devil, who possesses demonic qualities.

Uh, what is the relevance of your diatribe to your title? Are you, as seems apparent from your post, claiming that atheists worship Satan? If so, it's a rather foolish thing to say since atheists don't believe in a devil any more than they believe in a god.
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2/26/2016 7:37:33 PM
Posted: 9 months ago
At 2/26/2016 7:25:21 PM, dhardage wrote:
At 2/26/2016 5:51:22 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
Satan, meaning "adversary, Arabic, shaitan, meaning, "astray", "distant", or sometimes "devil") is a figure appearing in the texts of the Abrahamic religions who brings evil and temptation, and is known as the deceiver who leads humanity astray. Some religious groups teach that he originated as an angel who fell out of favor with God, seducing humanity into the ways of sin, and who has power in the fallen world. In the Hebrew Bible and the New Testament, Satan is primarily an accuser and adversary, a decidedly malevolent entity, also called the devil, who possesses demonic qualities.

Uh, what is the relevance of your diatribe to your title? Are you, as seems apparent from your post, claiming that atheists worship Satan? If so, it's a rather foolish thing to say since atheists don't believe in a devil any more than they believe in a god.

logic has never been Grittyworm/ Brontoraptor's strong point.
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2/26/2016 7:54:14 PM
Posted: 9 months ago
At 2/26/2016 5:51:22 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
Satan, meaning "adversary, Arabic, shaitan, meaning, "astray", "distant", or sometimes "devil") is a figure appearing in the texts of the Abrahamic religions who brings evil and temptation, and is known as the deceiver who leads humanity astray.

If God cannot stop people from being led astray, exactly why is God a god in the first place? Isn't it possible for a god to enchant his people, showing Satan "Ha! You can consider yourself a loser, no one listens to you!"?

When people say the world is ruled by Satan, they are pretty much saying that God made such a terrible creation when he created humanity...
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2/26/2016 9:26:36 PM
Posted: 9 months ago
At 2/26/2016 7:54:14 PM, Jovian wrote:
At 2/26/2016 5:51:22 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
Satan, meaning "adversary, Arabic, shaitan, meaning, "astray", "distant", or sometimes "devil") is a figure appearing in the texts of the Abrahamic religions who brings evil and temptation, and is known as the deceiver who leads humanity astray.

If God cannot stop people from being led astray, exactly why is God a god in the first place? Isn't it possible for a god to enchant his people, showing Satan "Ha! You can consider yourself a loser, no one listens to you!"?

When people say the world is ruled by Satan, they are pretty much saying that God made such a terrible creation when he created humanity...

He allowed us to serve who we wanted. It's not free will otherwise. He ends it when He's ready.
"What Donald Trump is doing is representing the absolute heartbreak, and anger, and frustration at a government gone mad."

http://youtu.be...
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2/26/2016 9:28:15 PM
Posted: 9 months ago
At 2/26/2016 7:25:21 PM, dhardage wrote:
At 2/26/2016 5:51:22 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
Satan, meaning "adversary, Arabic, shaitan, meaning, "astray", "distant", or sometimes "devil") is a figure appearing in the texts of the Abrahamic religions who brings evil and temptation, and is known as the deceiver who leads humanity astray. Some religious groups teach that he originated as an angel who fell out of favor with God, seducing humanity into the ways of sin, and who has power in the fallen world. In the Hebrew Bible and the New Testament, Satan is primarily an accuser and adversary, a decidedly malevolent entity, also called the devil, who possesses demonic qualities.

Uh, what is the relevance of your diatribe to your title? Are you, as seems apparent from your post, claiming that atheists worship Satan? If so, it's a rather foolish thing to say since atheists don't believe in a devil any more than they believe in a god.

Belief is not needed for servitude
"What Donald Trump is doing is representing the absolute heartbreak, and anger, and frustration at a government gone mad."

http://youtu.be...
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2/26/2016 9:31:20 PM
Posted: 9 months ago
At 2/26/2016 9:28:15 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 2/26/2016 7:25:21 PM, dhardage wrote:
At 2/26/2016 5:51:22 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
Satan, meaning "adversary, Arabic, shaitan, meaning, "astray", "distant", or sometimes "devil") is a figure appearing in the texts of the Abrahamic religions who brings evil and temptation, and is known as the deceiver who leads humanity astray. Some religious groups teach that he originated as an angel who fell out of favor with God, seducing humanity into the ways of sin, and who has power in the fallen world. In the Hebrew Bible and the New Testament, Satan is primarily an accuser and adversary, a decidedly malevolent entity, also called the devil, who possesses demonic qualities.

Uh, what is the relevance of your diatribe to your title? Are you, as seems apparent from your post, claiming that atheists worship Satan? If so, it's a rather foolish thing to say since atheists don't believe in a devil any more than they believe in a god.

Belief is not needed for servitude

You're doing a good job pushing people away from Christianity. Are you working for Satan?
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2/26/2016 9:34:33 PM
Posted: 9 months ago
At 2/26/2016 9:31:20 PM, janesix wrote:
At 2/26/2016 9:28:15 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 2/26/2016 7:25:21 PM, dhardage wrote:
At 2/26/2016 5:51:22 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
Satan, meaning "adversary, Arabic, shaitan, meaning, "astray", "distant", or sometimes "devil") is a figure appearing in the texts of the Abrahamic religions who brings evil and temptation, and is known as the deceiver who leads humanity astray. Some religious groups teach that he originated as an angel who fell out of favor with God, seducing humanity into the ways of sin, and who has power in the fallen world. In the Hebrew Bible and the New Testament, Satan is primarily an accuser and adversary, a decidedly malevolent entity, also called the devil, who possesses demonic qualities.

Uh, what is the relevance of your diatribe to your title? Are you, as seems apparent from your post, claiming that atheists worship Satan? If so, it's a rather foolish thing to say since atheists don't believe in a devil any more than they believe in a god.

Belief is not needed for servitude

You're doing a good job pushing people away from Christianity. Are you working for Satan?

Atheists can't be pushed away from Christianity. They've already drawn the line in the sand, otherwise they'd be Agnostic.
"What Donald Trump is doing is representing the absolute heartbreak, and anger, and frustration at a government gone mad."

http://youtu.be...
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2/26/2016 9:40:16 PM
Posted: 9 months ago
At 2/26/2016 9:28:15 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 2/26/2016 7:25:21 PM, dhardage wrote:
At 2/26/2016 5:51:22 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
Satan, meaning "adversary, Arabic, shaitan, meaning, "astray", "distant", or sometimes "devil") is a figure appearing in the texts of the Abrahamic religions who brings evil and temptation, and is known as the deceiver who leads humanity astray. Some religious groups teach that he originated as an angel who fell out of favor with God, seducing humanity into the ways of sin, and who has power in the fallen world. In the Hebrew Bible and the New Testament, Satan is primarily an accuser and adversary, a decidedly malevolent entity, also called the devil, who possesses demonic qualities.

Uh, what is the relevance of your diatribe to your title? Are you, as seems apparent from your post, claiming that atheists worship Satan? If so, it's a rather foolish thing to say since atheists don't believe in a devil any more than they believe in a god.

Belief is not needed for servitude

What an inane statement.
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2/26/2016 9:40:48 PM
Posted: 9 months ago
At 2/26/2016 9:34:33 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 2/26/2016 9:31:20 PM, janesix wrote:
At 2/26/2016 9:28:15 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 2/26/2016 7:25:21 PM, dhardage wrote:
At 2/26/2016 5:51:22 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
Satan, meaning "adversary, Arabic, shaitan, meaning, "astray", "distant", or sometimes "devil") is a figure appearing in the texts of the Abrahamic religions who brings evil and temptation, and is known as the deceiver who leads humanity astray. Some religious groups teach that he originated as an angel who fell out of favor with God, seducing humanity into the ways of sin, and who has power in the fallen world. In the Hebrew Bible and the New Testament, Satan is primarily an accuser and adversary, a decidedly malevolent entity, also called the devil, who possesses demonic qualities.

Uh, what is the relevance of your diatribe to your title? Are you, as seems apparent from your post, claiming that atheists worship Satan? If so, it's a rather foolish thing to say since atheists don't believe in a devil any more than they believe in a god.

Belief is not needed for servitude

You're doing a good job pushing people away from Christianity. Are you working for Satan?

Atheists can't be pushed away from Christianity. They've already drawn the line in the sand, otherwise they'd be Agnostic.

I notice you didn't answer my question.
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2/26/2016 9:42:01 PM
Posted: 9 months ago
At 2/26/2016 9:40:16 PM, dhardage wrote:
At 2/26/2016 9:28:15 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 2/26/2016 7:25:21 PM, dhardage wrote:
At 2/26/2016 5:51:22 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
Satan, meaning "adversary, Arabic, shaitan, meaning, "astray", "distant", or sometimes "devil") is a figure appearing in the texts of the Abrahamic religions who brings evil and temptation, and is known as the deceiver who leads humanity astray. Some religious groups teach that he originated as an angel who fell out of favor with God, seducing humanity into the ways of sin, and who has power in the fallen world. In the Hebrew Bible and the New Testament, Satan is primarily an accuser and adversary, a decidedly malevolent entity, also called the devil, who possesses demonic qualities.

Uh, what is the relevance of your diatribe to your title? Are you, as seems apparent from your post, claiming that atheists worship Satan? If so, it's a rather foolish thing to say since atheists don't believe in a devil any more than they believe in a god.

Belief is not needed for servitude

What an inane statement.

You've hardened your heart dhardage. Don't focus on me. Refocus on Christ. We both know why you are here, so finish off the deal.
"What Donald Trump is doing is representing the absolute heartbreak, and anger, and frustration at a government gone mad."

http://youtu.be...
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2/26/2016 9:43:37 PM
Posted: 9 months ago
At 2/26/2016 9:42:01 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 2/26/2016 9:40:16 PM, dhardage wrote:
At 2/26/2016 9:28:15 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 2/26/2016 7:25:21 PM, dhardage wrote:
At 2/26/2016 5:51:22 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
Satan, meaning "adversary, Arabic, shaitan, meaning, "astray", "distant", or sometimes "devil") is a figure appearing in the texts of the Abrahamic religions who brings evil and temptation, and is known as the deceiver who leads humanity astray. Some religious groups teach that he originated as an angel who fell out of favor with God, seducing humanity into the ways of sin, and who has power in the fallen world. In the Hebrew Bible and the New Testament, Satan is primarily an accuser and adversary, a decidedly malevolent entity, also called the devil, who possesses demonic qualities.

Uh, what is the relevance of your diatribe to your title? Are you, as seems apparent from your post, claiming that atheists worship Satan? If so, it's a rather foolish thing to say since atheists don't believe in a devil any more than they believe in a god.

Belief is not needed for servitude

What an inane statement.

You've hardened your heart dhardage. Don't focus on me. Refocus on Christ. We both know why you are here, so finish off the deal.

Go preach elsewhere. This is a debate page, not a revival tent.
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2/26/2016 9:46:37 PM
Posted: 9 months ago
At 2/26/2016 9:28:15 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 2/26/2016 7:25:21 PM, dhardage wrote:
At 2/26/2016 5:51:22 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
Satan, meaning "adversary, Arabic, shaitan, meaning, "astray", "distant", or sometimes "devil") is a figure appearing in the texts of the Abrahamic religions who brings evil and temptation, and is known as the deceiver who leads humanity astray. Some religious groups teach that he originated as an angel who fell out of favor with God, seducing humanity into the ways of sin, and who has power in the fallen world. In the Hebrew Bible and the New Testament, Satan is primarily an accuser and adversary, a decidedly malevolent entity, also called the devil, who possesses demonic qualities.

Uh, what is the relevance of your diatribe to your title? Are you, as seems apparent from your post, claiming that atheists worship Satan? If so, it's a rather foolish thing to say since atheists don't believe in a devil any more than they believe in a god.

Belief is not needed for servitude

Then belief is not needed to serve Christ, right?
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2/26/2016 9:47:24 PM
Posted: 9 months ago
At 2/26/2016 9:43:37 PM, dhardage wrote:
At 2/26/2016 9:42:01 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 2/26/2016 9:40:16 PM, dhardage wrote:
At 2/26/2016 9:28:15 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 2/26/2016 7:25:21 PM, dhardage wrote:
At 2/26/2016 5:51:22 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
Satan, meaning "adversary, Arabic, shaitan, meaning, "astray", "distant", or sometimes "devil") is a figure appearing in the texts of the Abrahamic religions who brings evil and temptation, and is known as the deceiver who leads humanity astray. Some religious groups teach that he originated as an angel who fell out of favor with God, seducing humanity into the ways of sin, and who has power in the fallen world. In the Hebrew Bible and the New Testament, Satan is primarily an accuser and adversary, a decidedly malevolent entity, also called the devil, who possesses demonic qualities.

Uh, what is the relevance of your diatribe to your title? Are you, as seems apparent from your post, claiming that atheists worship Satan? If so, it's a rather foolish thing to say since atheists don't believe in a devil any more than they believe in a god.

Belief is not needed for servitude

What an inane statement.

You've hardened your heart dhardage. Don't focus on me. Refocus on Christ. We both know why you are here, so finish off the deal.

Go preach elsewhere. This is a debate page, not a revival tent.

Now hardage, give up the goodies. You know your heart is missing something. Now pass out some hugs and start talking to Him.
"What Donald Trump is doing is representing the absolute heartbreak, and anger, and frustration at a government gone mad."

http://youtu.be...
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2/26/2016 9:49:16 PM
Posted: 9 months ago
At 2/26/2016 9:46:37 PM, Chaosism wrote:
At 2/26/2016 9:28:15 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 2/26/2016 7:25:21 PM, dhardage wrote:
At 2/26/2016 5:51:22 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
Satan, meaning "adversary, Arabic, shaitan, meaning, "astray", "distant", or sometimes "devil") is a figure appearing in the texts of the Abrahamic religions who brings evil and temptation, and is known as the deceiver who leads humanity astray. Some religious groups teach that he originated as an angel who fell out of favor with God, seducing humanity into the ways of sin, and who has power in the fallen world. In the Hebrew Bible and the New Testament, Satan is primarily an accuser and adversary, a decidedly malevolent entity, also called the devil, who possesses demonic qualities.

Uh, what is the relevance of your diatribe to your title? Are you, as seems apparent from your post, claiming that atheists worship Satan? If so, it's a rather foolish thing to say since atheists don't believe in a devil any more than they believe in a god.

Belief is not needed for servitude

Then belief is not needed to serve Christ, right?

You can serve God and His purpose and not be of Him. The same with Satan.
"What Donald Trump is doing is representing the absolute heartbreak, and anger, and frustration at a government gone mad."

http://youtu.be...
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2/26/2016 9:54:09 PM
Posted: 9 months ago
At 2/26/2016 9:49:16 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 2/26/2016 9:46:37 PM, Chaosism wrote:
At 2/26/2016 9:28:15 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 2/26/2016 7:25:21 PM, dhardage wrote:
At 2/26/2016 5:51:22 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
Satan, meaning "adversary, Arabic, shaitan, meaning, "astray", "distant", or sometimes "devil") is a figure appearing in the texts of the Abrahamic religions who brings evil and temptation, and is known as the deceiver who leads humanity astray. Some religious groups teach that he originated as an angel who fell out of favor with God, seducing humanity into the ways of sin, and who has power in the fallen world. In the Hebrew Bible and the New Testament, Satan is primarily an accuser and adversary, a decidedly malevolent entity, also called the devil, who possesses demonic qualities.

Uh, what is the relevance of your diatribe to your title? Are you, as seems apparent from your post, claiming that atheists worship Satan? If so, it's a rather foolish thing to say since atheists don't believe in a devil any more than they believe in a god.

Belief is not needed for servitude

Then belief is not needed to serve Christ, right?

You can serve God and His purpose and not be of Him. The same with Satan.

Then what is the point of this thread? Why must an atheist necessarily be in the service of Satan, then, if he doesn't believe in either? As an atheist, myself, I have been told probably literally a hundred times, "God is working through you", when I am doing my volunteer stuff.
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2/26/2016 9:54:40 PM
Posted: 9 months ago
At 2/26/2016 9:40:48 PM, janesix wrote:
At 2/26/2016 9:34:33 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 2/26/2016 9:31:20 PM, janesix wrote:
At 2/26/2016 9:28:15 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 2/26/2016 7:25:21 PM, dhardage wrote:
At 2/26/2016 5:51:22 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
Satan, meaning "adversary, Arabic, shaitan, meaning, "astray", "distant", or sometimes "devil") is a figure appearing in the texts of the Abrahamic religions who brings evil and temptation, and is known as the deceiver who leads humanity astray. Some religious groups teach that he originated as an angel who fell out of favor with God, seducing humanity into the ways of sin, and who has power in the fallen world. In the Hebrew Bible and the New Testament, Satan is primarily an accuser and adversary, a decidedly malevolent entity, also called the devil, who possesses demonic qualities.

Uh, what is the relevance of your diatribe to your title? Are you, as seems apparent from your post, claiming that atheists worship Satan? If so, it's a rather foolish thing to say since atheists don't believe in a devil any more than they believe in a god.

Belief is not needed for servitude

You're doing a good job pushing people away from Christianity. Are you working for Satan?

Atheists can't be pushed away from Christianity. They've already drawn the line in the sand, otherwise they'd be Agnostic.

I notice you didn't answer my question.

Jane. There is another subject at hand here. You are following me around, chomping at myheels, and we both know why. You like what I have going on. Correct?
"What Donald Trump is doing is representing the absolute heartbreak, and anger, and frustration at a government gone mad."

http://youtu.be...
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2/26/2016 9:56:36 PM
Posted: 9 months ago
At 2/26/2016 9:54:40 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 2/26/2016 9:40:48 PM, janesix wrote:
At 2/26/2016 9:34:33 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 2/26/2016 9:31:20 PM, janesix wrote:
At 2/26/2016 9:28:15 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 2/26/2016 7:25:21 PM, dhardage wrote:
At 2/26/2016 5:51:22 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
Satan, meaning "adversary, Arabic, shaitan, meaning, "astray", "distant", or sometimes "devil") is a figure appearing in the texts of the Abrahamic religions who brings evil and temptation, and is known as the deceiver who leads humanity astray. Some religious groups teach that he originated as an angel who fell out of favor with God, seducing humanity into the ways of sin, and who has power in the fallen world. In the Hebrew Bible and the New Testament, Satan is primarily an accuser and adversary, a decidedly malevolent entity, also called the devil, who possesses demonic qualities.

Uh, what is the relevance of your diatribe to your title? Are you, as seems apparent from your post, claiming that atheists worship Satan? If so, it's a rather foolish thing to say since atheists don't believe in a devil any more than they believe in a god.

Belief is not needed for servitude

You're doing a good job pushing people away from Christianity. Are you working for Satan?

Atheists can't be pushed away from Christianity. They've already drawn the line in the sand, otherwise they'd be Agnostic.

I notice you didn't answer my question.

Jane. There is another subject at hand here. You are following me around, chomping at myheels, and we both know why. You like what I have going on. Correct?

I have noticed you don't practice what you preach. I am calling you out on that.
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2/26/2016 9:56:52 PM
Posted: 9 months ago
At 2/26/2016 9:54:09 PM, Chaosism wrote:
At 2/26/2016 9:49:16 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 2/26/2016 9:46:37 PM, Chaosism wrote:
At 2/26/2016 9:28:15 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 2/26/2016 7:25:21 PM, dhardage wrote:
At 2/26/2016 5:51:22 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
Satan, meaning "adversary, Arabic, shaitan, meaning, "astray", "distant", or sometimes "devil") is a figure appearing in the texts of the Abrahamic religions who brings evil and temptation, and is known as the deceiver who leads humanity astray. Some religious groups teach that he originated as an angel who fell out of favor with God, seducing humanity into the ways of sin, and who has power in the fallen world. In the Hebrew Bible and the New Testament, Satan is primarily an accuser and adversary, a decidedly malevolent entity, also called the devil, who possesses demonic qualities.

Uh, what is the relevance of your diatribe to your title? Are you, as seems apparent from your post, claiming that atheists worship Satan? If so, it's a rather foolish thing to say since atheists don't believe in a devil any more than they believe in a god.

Belief is not needed for servitude

Then belief is not needed to serve Christ, right?

You can serve God and His purpose and not be of Him. The same with Satan.

Then what is the point of this thread? Why must an atheist necessarily be in the service of Satan, then, if he doesn't believe in either? As an atheist, myself, I have been told probably literally a hundred times, "God is working through you", when I am doing my volunteer stuff.

Maybe He is. Maybe He's stronger than your lack of belief. Or you may have Him and not understand it or know. That's what Billy Graham says.
"What Donald Trump is doing is representing the absolute heartbreak, and anger, and frustration at a government gone mad."

http://youtu.be...
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2/26/2016 9:58:37 PM
Posted: 9 months ago
At 2/26/2016 9:56:36 PM, janesix wrote:
At 2/26/2016 9:54:40 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 2/26/2016 9:40:48 PM, janesix wrote:
At 2/26/2016 9:34:33 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 2/26/2016 9:31:20 PM, janesix wrote:
At 2/26/2016 9:28:15 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 2/26/2016 7:25:21 PM, dhardage wrote:
At 2/26/2016 5:51:22 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
Satan, meaning "adversary, Arabic, shaitan, meaning, "astray", "distant", or sometimes "devil") is a figure appearing in the texts of the Abrahamic religions who brings evil and temptation, and is known as the deceiver who leads humanity astray. Some religious groups teach that he originated as an angel who fell out of favor with God, seducing humanity into the ways of sin, and who has power in the fallen world. In the Hebrew Bible and the New Testament, Satan is primarily an accuser and adversary, a decidedly malevolent entity, also called the devil, who possesses demonic qualities.

Uh, what is the relevance of your diatribe to your title? Are you, as seems apparent from your post, claiming that atheists worship Satan? If so, it's a rather foolish thing to say since atheists don't believe in a devil any more than they believe in a god.

Belief is not needed for servitude

You're doing a good job pushing people away from Christianity. Are you working for Satan?

Atheists can't be pushed away from Christianity. They've already drawn the line in the sand, otherwise they'd be Agnostic.

I notice you didn't answer my question.

Jane. There is another subject at hand here. You are following me around, chomping at myheels, and we both know why. You like what I have going on. Correct?

I have noticed you don't practice what you preach. I am calling you out on that.

Which part
"What Donald Trump is doing is representing the absolute heartbreak, and anger, and frustration at a government gone mad."

http://youtu.be...
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2/26/2016 10:01:25 PM
Posted: 9 months ago
At 2/26/2016 9:58:37 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 2/26/2016 9:56:36 PM, janesix wrote:
At 2/26/2016 9:54:40 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 2/26/2016 9:40:48 PM, janesix wrote:
At 2/26/2016 9:34:33 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 2/26/2016 9:31:20 PM, janesix wrote:
At 2/26/2016 9:28:15 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 2/26/2016 7:25:21 PM, dhardage wrote:
At 2/26/2016 5:51:22 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
Satan, meaning "adversary, Arabic, shaitan, meaning, "astray", "distant", or sometimes "devil") is a figure appearing in the texts of the Abrahamic religions who brings evil and temptation, and is known as the deceiver who leads humanity astray. Some religious groups teach that he originated as an angel who fell out of favor with God, seducing humanity into the ways of sin, and who has power in the fallen world. In the Hebrew Bible and the New Testament, Satan is primarily an accuser and adversary, a decidedly malevolent entity, also called the devil, who possesses demonic qualities.

Uh, what is the relevance of your diatribe to your title? Are you, as seems apparent from your post, claiming that atheists worship Satan? If so, it's a rather foolish thing to say since atheists don't believe in a devil any more than they believe in a god.

Belief is not needed for servitude

You're doing a good job pushing people away from Christianity. Are you working for Satan?

Atheists can't be pushed away from Christianity. They've already drawn the line in the sand, otherwise they'd be Agnostic.

I notice you didn't answer my question.

Jane. There is another subject at hand here. You are following me around, chomping at myheels, and we both know why. You like what I have going on. Correct?

I have noticed you don't practice what you preach. I am calling you out on that.

Which part

Aren't you supposed to love your enemies, according to the teaching of Jesus?
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2/26/2016 10:02:27 PM
Posted: 9 months ago
At 2/26/2016 10:01:25 PM, janesix wrote:
At 2/26/2016 9:58:37 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 2/26/2016 9:56:36 PM, janesix wrote:
At 2/26/2016 9:54:40 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 2/26/2016 9:40:48 PM, janesix wrote:
At 2/26/2016 9:34:33 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 2/26/2016 9:31:20 PM, janesix wrote:
At 2/26/2016 9:28:15 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 2/26/2016 7:25:21 PM, dhardage wrote:
At 2/26/2016 5:51:22 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
Satan, meaning "adversary, Arabic, shaitan, meaning, "astray", "distant", or sometimes "devil") is a figure appearing in the texts of the Abrahamic religions who brings evil and temptation, and is known as the deceiver who leads humanity astray. Some religious groups teach that he originated as an angel who fell out of favor with God, seducing humanity into the ways of sin, and who has power in the fallen world. In the Hebrew Bible and the New Testament, Satan is primarily an accuser and adversary, a decidedly malevolent entity, also called the devil, who possesses demonic qualities.

Uh, what is the relevance of your diatribe to your title? Are you, as seems apparent from your post, claiming that atheists worship Satan? If so, it's a rather foolish thing to say since atheists don't believe in a devil any more than they believe in a god.

Belief is not needed for servitude

You're doing a good job pushing people away from Christianity. Are you working for Satan?

Atheists can't be pushed away from Christianity. They've already drawn the line in the sand, otherwise they'd be Agnostic.

I notice you didn't answer my question.

Jane. There is another subject at hand here. You are following me around, chomping at myheels, and we both know why. You like what I have going on. Correct?

I have noticed you don't practice what you preach. I am calling you out on that.

Which part

Aren't you supposed to love your enemies, according to the teaching of Jesus?

I do love you Jane.
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2/26/2016 10:03:27 PM
Posted: 9 months ago
At 2/26/2016 9:56:52 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 2/26/2016 9:54:09 PM, Chaosism wrote:
At 2/26/2016 9:49:16 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 2/26/2016 9:46:37 PM, Chaosism wrote:
At 2/26/2016 9:28:15 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 2/26/2016 7:25:21 PM, dhardage wrote:
At 2/26/2016 5:51:22 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
Satan, meaning "adversary, Arabic, shaitan, meaning, "astray", "distant", or sometimes "devil") is a figure appearing in the texts of the Abrahamic religions who brings evil and temptation, and is known as the deceiver who leads humanity astray. Some religious groups teach that he originated as an angel who fell out of favor with God, seducing humanity into the ways of sin, and who has power in the fallen world. In the Hebrew Bible and the New Testament, Satan is primarily an accuser and adversary, a decidedly malevolent entity, also called the devil, who possesses demonic qualities.

Uh, what is the relevance of your diatribe to your title? Are you, as seems apparent from your post, claiming that atheists worship Satan? If so, it's a rather foolish thing to say since atheists don't believe in a devil any more than they believe in a god.

Belief is not needed for servitude

Then belief is not needed to serve Christ, right?

You can serve God and His purpose and not be of Him. The same with Satan.

Then what is the point of this thread? Why must an atheist necessarily be in the service of Satan, then, if he doesn't believe in either? As an atheist, myself, I have been told probably literally a hundred times, "God is working through you", when I am doing my volunteer stuff.

Maybe He is. Maybe He's stronger than your lack of belief. Or you may have Him and not understand it or know. That's what Billy Graham says.

I hate that Christianity is strongly conducive to a wretched notion of oneself and of the human race, in general. Such a "compliment" implicitly says, "someone is demonstrating genuine concern for the well-being of others? There's no way that could be unless God is overriding his human nature!" Not that I care about credit, but that is such a negative outlook.
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2/26/2016 10:03:50 PM
Posted: 9 months ago
At 2/26/2016 10:02:27 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 2/26/2016 10:01:25 PM, janesix wrote:
At 2/26/2016 9:58:37 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 2/26/2016 9:56:36 PM, janesix wrote:
At 2/26/2016 9:54:40 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 2/26/2016 9:40:48 PM, janesix wrote:
At 2/26/2016 9:34:33 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 2/26/2016 9:31:20 PM, janesix wrote:
At 2/26/2016 9:28:15 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 2/26/2016 7:25:21 PM, dhardage wrote:
At 2/26/2016 5:51:22 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
Satan, meaning "adversary, Arabic, shaitan, meaning, "astray", "distant", or sometimes "devil") is a figure appearing in the texts of the Abrahamic religions who brings evil and temptation, and is known as the deceiver who leads humanity astray. Some religious groups teach that he originated as an angel who fell out of favor with God, seducing humanity into the ways of sin, and who has power in the fallen world. In the Hebrew Bible and the New Testament, Satan is primarily an accuser and adversary, a decidedly malevolent entity, also called the devil, who possesses demonic qualities.

Uh, what is the relevance of your diatribe to your title? Are you, as seems apparent from your post, claiming that atheists worship Satan? If so, it's a rather foolish thing to say since atheists don't believe in a devil any more than they believe in a god.

Belief is not needed for servitude

You're doing a good job pushing people away from Christianity. Are you working for Satan?

Atheists can't be pushed away from Christianity. They've already drawn the line in the sand, otherwise they'd be Agnostic.

I notice you didn't answer my question.

Jane. There is another subject at hand here. You are following me around, chomping at myheels, and we both know why. You like what I have going on. Correct?

I have noticed you don't practice what you preach. I am calling you out on that.

Which part

Aren't you supposed to love your enemies, according to the teaching of Jesus?

I do love you Jane.

Do you love atheists too?
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2/26/2016 10:04:21 PM
Posted: 9 months ago
At 2/26/2016 10:01:25 PM, janesix wrote:
At 2/26/2016 9:58:37 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 2/26/2016 9:56:36 PM, janesix wrote:
At 2/26/2016 9:54:40 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 2/26/2016 9:40:48 PM, janesix wrote:
At 2/26/2016 9:34:33 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 2/26/2016 9:31:20 PM, janesix wrote:
At 2/26/2016 9:28:15 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 2/26/2016 7:25:21 PM, dhardage wrote:
At 2/26/2016 5:51:22 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
Satan, meaning "adversary, Arabic, shaitan, meaning, "astray", "distant", or sometimes "devil") is a figure appearing in the texts of the Abrahamic religions who brings evil and temptation, and is known as the deceiver who leads humanity astray. Some religious groups teach that he originated as an angel who fell out of favor with God, seducing humanity into the ways of sin, and who has power in the fallen world. In the Hebrew Bible and the New Testament, Satan is primarily an accuser and adversary, a decidedly malevolent entity, also called the devil, who possesses demonic qualities.

Uh, what is the relevance of your diatribe to your title? Are you, as seems apparent from your post, claiming that atheists worship Satan? If so, it's a rather foolish thing to say since atheists don't believe in a devil any more than they believe in a god.

Belief is not needed for servitude

You're doing a good job pushing people away from Christianity. Are you working for Satan?

Atheists can't be pushed away from Christianity. They've already drawn the line in the sand, otherwise they'd be Agnostic.

I notice you didn't answer my question.

Jane. There is another subject at hand here. You are following me around, chomping at myheels, and we both know why. You like what I have going on. Correct?

I have noticed you don't practice what you preach. I am calling you out on that.

Which part

Aren't you supposed to love your enemies, according to the teaching of Jesus?

I wouldn't give you a hard time if I didn't love you.
"What Donald Trump is doing is representing the absolute heartbreak, and anger, and frustration at a government gone mad."

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2/26/2016 10:06:34 PM
Posted: 9 months ago
At 2/26/2016 10:03:50 PM, janesix wrote:
At 2/26/2016 10:02:27 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 2/26/2016 10:01:25 PM, janesix wrote:
At 2/26/2016 9:58:37 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 2/26/2016 9:56:36 PM, janesix wrote:
At 2/26/2016 9:54:40 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 2/26/2016 9:40:48 PM, janesix wrote:
At 2/26/2016 9:34:33 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 2/26/2016 9:31:20 PM, janesix wrote:
At 2/26/2016 9:28:15 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 2/26/2016 7:25:21 PM, dhardage wrote:
At 2/26/2016 5:51:22 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
Satan, meaning "adversary, Arabic, shaitan, meaning, "astray", "distant", or sometimes "devil") is a figure appearing in the texts of the Abrahamic religions who brings evil and temptation, and is known as the deceiver who leads humanity astray. Some religious groups teach that he originated as an angel who fell out of favor with God, seducing humanity into the ways of sin, and who has power in the fallen world. In the Hebrew Bible and the New Testament, Satan is primarily an accuser and adversary, a decidedly malevolent entity, also called the devil, who possesses demonic qualities.

Uh, what is the relevance of your diatribe to your title? Are you, as seems apparent from your post, claiming that atheists worship Satan? If so, it's a rather foolish thing to say since atheists don't believe in a devil any more than they believe in a god.

Belief is not needed for servitude

You're doing a good job pushing people away from Christianity. Are you working for Satan?

Atheists can't be pushed away from Christianity. They've already drawn the line in the sand, otherwise they'd be Agnostic.

I notice you didn't answer my question.

Jane. There is another subject at hand here. You are following me around, chomping at myheels, and we both know why. You like what I have going on. Correct?

I have noticed you don't practice what you preach. I am calling you out on that.

Which part

Aren't you supposed to love your enemies, according to the teaching of Jesus?

I do love you Jane.

Do you love atheists too?

Yup
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2/26/2016 10:09:03 PM
Posted: 9 months ago
At 2/26/2016 10:03:27 PM, Chaosism wrote:
At 2/26/2016 9:56:52 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 2/26/2016 9:54:09 PM, Chaosism wrote:
At 2/26/2016 9:49:16 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 2/26/2016 9:46:37 PM, Chaosism wrote:
At 2/26/2016 9:28:15 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 2/26/2016 7:25:21 PM, dhardage wrote:
At 2/26/2016 5:51:22 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
Satan, meaning "adversary, Arabic, shaitan, meaning, "astray", "distant", or sometimes "devil") is a figure appearing in the texts of the Abrahamic religions who brings evil and temptation, and is known as the deceiver who leads humanity astray. Some religious groups teach that he originated as an angel who fell out of favor with God, seducing humanity into the ways of sin, and who has power in the fallen world. In the Hebrew Bible and the New Testament, Satan is primarily an accuser and adversary, a decidedly malevolent entity, also called the devil, who possesses demonic qualities.

Uh, what is the relevance of your diatribe to your title? Are you, as seems apparent from your post, claiming that atheists worship Satan? If so, it's a rather foolish thing to say since atheists don't believe in a devil any more than they believe in a god.

Belief is not needed for servitude

Then belief is not needed to serve Christ, right?

You can serve God and His purpose and not be of Him. The same with Satan.

Then what is the point of this thread? Why must an atheist necessarily be in the service of Satan, then, if he doesn't believe in either? As an atheist, myself, I have been told probably literally a hundred times, "God is working through you", when I am doing my volunteer stuff.

Maybe He is. Maybe He's stronger than your lack of belief. Or you may have Him and not understand it or know. That's what Billy Graham says.

I hate that Christianity is strongly conducive to a wretched notion of oneself and of the human race, in general. Such a "compliment" implicitly says, "someone is demonstrating genuine concern for the well-being of others? There's no way that could be unless God is overriding his human nature!" Not that I care about credit, but that is such a negative outlook.

Believing death is all there is is a negative outlook.

I can't see into your heart to tell you.
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2/26/2016 10:14:22 PM
Posted: 9 months ago
At 2/26/2016 9:47:24 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 2/26/2016 9:43:37 PM, dhardage wrote:
At 2/26/2016 9:42:01 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 2/26/2016 9:40:16 PM, dhardage wrote:
At 2/26/2016 9:28:15 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 2/26/2016 7:25:21 PM, dhardage wrote:
At 2/26/2016 5:51:22 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
Satan, meaning "adversary, Arabic, shaitan, meaning, "astray", "distant", or sometimes "devil") is a figure appearing in the texts of the Abrahamic religions who brings evil and temptation, and is known as the deceiver who leads humanity astray. Some religious groups teach that he originated as an angel who fell out of favor with God, seducing humanity into the ways of sin, and who has power in the fallen world. In the Hebrew Bible and the New Testament, Satan is primarily an accuser and adversary, a decidedly malevolent entity, also called the devil, who possesses demonic qualities.

Uh, what is the relevance of your diatribe to your title? Are you, as seems apparent from your post, claiming that atheists worship Satan? If so, it's a rather foolish thing to say since atheists don't believe in a devil any more than they believe in a god.

Belief is not needed for servitude

What an inane statement.

You've hardened your heart dhardage. Don't focus on me. Refocus on Christ. We both know why you are here, so finish off the deal.

Go preach elsewhere. This is a debate page, not a revival tent.

Now hardage, give up the goodies. You know your heart is missing something. Now pass out some hugs and start talking to Him.

Seriously, people get banned for preaching. Keep it up and you'll have to create another user name.
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2/26/2016 10:33:31 PM
Posted: 9 months ago
At 2/26/2016 10:14:22 PM, dhardage wrote:
At 2/26/2016 9:47:24 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 2/26/2016 9:43:37 PM, dhardage wrote:
At 2/26/2016 9:42:01 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 2/26/2016 9:40:16 PM, dhardage wrote:
At 2/26/2016 9:28:15 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 2/26/2016 7:25:21 PM, dhardage wrote:
At 2/26/2016 5:51:22 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
Satan, meaning "adversary, Arabic, shaitan, meaning, "astray", "distant", or sometimes "devil") is a figure appearing in the texts of the Abrahamic religions who brings evil and temptation, and is known as the deceiver who leads humanity astray. Some religious groups teach that he originated as an angel who fell out of favor with God, seducing humanity into the ways of sin, and who has power in the fallen world. In the Hebrew Bible and the New Testament, Satan is primarily an accuser and adversary, a decidedly malevolent entity, also called the devil, who possesses demonic qualities.

Uh, what is the relevance of your diatribe to your title? Are you, as seems apparent from your post, claiming that atheists worship Satan? If so, it's a rather foolish thing to say since atheists don't believe in a devil any more than they believe in a god.

Belief is not needed for servitude

What an inane statement.

You've hardened your heart dhardage. Don't focus on me. Refocus on Christ. We both know why you are here, so finish off the deal.

Go preach elsewhere. This is a debate page, not a revival tent.

Now hardage, give up the goodies. You know your heart is missing something. Now pass out some hugs and start talking to Him.

Seriously, people get banned for preaching. Keep it up and you'll have to create another user name.

You were preachin Atheism earlier dhardage. You were oppressing me and persecuting me.
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2/26/2016 11:33:19 PM
Posted: 9 months ago
At 2/26/2016 7:54:14 PM, Jovian wrote:
At 2/26/2016 5:51:22 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
Satan, meaning "adversary, Arabic, shaitan, meaning, "astray", "distant", or sometimes "devil") is a figure appearing in the texts of the Abrahamic religions who brings evil and temptation, and is known as the deceiver who leads humanity astray.

If God cannot stop people from being led astray, exactly why is God a god in the first place? Isn't it possible for a god to enchant his people, showing Satan "Ha! You can consider yourself a loser, no one listens to you!"?

When people say the world is ruled by Satan, they are pretty much saying that God made such a terrible creation when he created humanity...

The life He original gave man (Adam and Eve) that was lost, requires faith in Him through His Word in His Presence to be restored to it. Therefore he left man to the remaining life man had in the flesh, as in dust to dust, and ashes to ashes. If you already posses something in your hand, then you don"t need faith to know you are to receive it. And the Faith in this case comes by hearing, hearing the Truth of God.