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2/27/2016 2:51:43 PM
Posted: 9 months ago
It seems crazy how Christians claim the god they worship is loving kind and forgiving when;

1. He does not provide evidence of his existence.

2. He sends people he dislikes to hell even though he created all of them.

3. He created people with conditions like homosexuality, transexuals and paedophilia.

4. He created people with medical conditions like downs syndrome, dwarfism and deformities.

5. He created people with evil personalities such as Hitler, Stalin and Mao and millions of other criminals.

6. He created many cruel diseases such as multiple sclerosis, dementia, cancer, heart attacks and strokes.

7. He created parasites, viruses and bacteria that cause incredible suffering on their hosts.

8. He creates volcanic eruptions, tsunamis, earthquakes, floods, droughts and hurricanes.

9. He created predatory animals that cruelly hunt and kill other animals.

So Christians do you agree the god you worship is evil?
"I don't need experience.to knock you out. I'm a man. that's all I need to beat you and any woman."

Fatihah, in his delusion that he could knock out any woman while bragging about being able to knock me out. An example of 7th century Islamic thinking inspired by his hero the paedophile Muhammad.
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2/28/2016 1:00:57 AM
Posted: 9 months ago
At 2/27/2016 2:51:43 PM, Chloe8 wrote:
It seems crazy how Christians claim the god they worship is loving kind and forgiving when;

1. He does not provide evidence of his existence.

2. He sends people he dislikes to hell even though he created all of them.

3. He created people with conditions like homosexuality, transexuals and paedophilia.

4. He created people with medical conditions like downs syndrome, dwarfism and deformities.

5. He created people with evil personalities such as Hitler, Stalin and Mao and millions of other criminals.

6. He created many cruel diseases such as multiple sclerosis, dementia, cancer, heart attacks and strokes.

7. He created parasites, viruses and bacteria that cause incredible suffering on their hosts.

8. He creates volcanic eruptions, tsunamis, earthquakes, floods, droughts and hurricanes.

9. He created predatory animals that cruelly hunt and kill other animals.

So Christians do you agree the god you worship is evil?

You obviously have not read the Bible. It tells you why this is how it is. You missed its point.
"What Donald Trump is doing is representing the absolute heartbreak, and anger, and frustration at a government gone mad."

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2/28/2016 1:13:16 AM
Posted: 9 months ago
At 2/28/2016 1:00:57 AM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 2/27/2016 2:51:43 PM, Chloe8 wrote:
It seems crazy how Christians claim the god they worship is loving kind and forgiving when;

1. He does not provide evidence of his existence.

2. He sends people he dislikes to hell even though he created all of them.

3. He created people with conditions like homosexuality, transexuals and paedophilia. YouTube

4. He created people with medical conditions like downs syndrome, dwarfism and deformities.

5. He created people with evil personalities such as Hitler, Stalin and Mao and millions of other criminals.

6. He created many cruel diseases such as multiple sclerosis, dementia, cancer, heart attacks and strokes.

7. He created parasites, viruses and bacteria that cause incredible suffering on their hosts.

8. He creates volcanic eruptions, tsunamis, earthquakes, floods, droughts and hurricanes.

9. He created predatory animals that cruelly hunt and kill other animals.

So Christians do you agree the god you worship is evil?

You obviously have not read the Bible. It tells you why this is how it is. You missed its point.

I dunno, I am coming around on the whole drowning babies thing.
"Seems like another attempt to insert God into areas our knowledge has yet to penetrate. You figure God would be bigger than the gaps of our ignorance." Drafterman 19/5/12
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2/28/2016 1:33:39 AM
Posted: 9 months ago
At 2/28/2016 1:00:57 AM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 2/27/2016 2:51:43 PM, Chloe8 wrote:
It seems crazy how Christians claim the god they worship is loving kind and forgiving when;

1. He does not provide evidence of his existence.

2. He sends people he dislikes to hell even though he created all of them.

3. He created people with conditions like homosexuality, transexuals and paedophilia.

4. He created people with medical conditions like downs syndrome, dwarfism and deformities.

5. He created people with evil personalities such as Hitler, Stalin and Mao and millions of other criminals.

6. He created many cruel diseases such as multiple sclerosis, dementia, cancer, heart attacks and strokes.

7. He created parasites, viruses and bacteria that cause incredible suffering on their hosts.

8. He creates volcanic eruptions, tsunamis, earthquakes, floods, droughts and hurricanes.

9. He created predatory animals that cruelly hunt and kill other animals.

So Christians do you agree the god you worship is evil?

You obviously have not read the Bible. It tells you why this is how it is. You missed its point.

Show us how the Bible tells us why these things are. Please go point by point.
Chloe8
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2/28/2016 2:02:28 AM
Posted: 9 months ago
At 2/28/2016 1:00:57 AM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 2/27/2016 2:51:43 PM, Chloe8 wrote:
It seems crazy how Christians claim the god they worship is loving kind and forgiving when;

1. He does not provide evidence of his existence.

2. He sends people he dislikes to hell even though he created all of them.

3. He created people with conditions like homosexuality, transexuals and paedophilia.

4. He created people with medical conditions like downs syndrome, dwarfism and deformities.

5. He created people with evil personalities such as Hitler, Stalin and Mao and millions of other criminals.

6. He created many cruel diseases such as multiple sclerosis, dementia, cancer, heart attacks and strokes.

7. He created parasites, viruses and bacteria that cause incredible suffering on their hosts.

8. He creates volcanic eruptions, tsunamis, earthquakes, floods, droughts and hurricanes.

9. He created predatory animals that cruelly hunt and kill other animals.

So Christians do you agree the god you worship is evil?

You obviously have not read the Bible. It tells you why this is how it is. You missed its point.

Yes I know it's because Adam ate fruit from the sacred tree. I mean this is laughable. A god punishes something he recently created for eating an Apple. Even more laughable is he extends the punishment to the entirety of life on planet earth. Do you really think that is justified? It's absurdly cruel.
"I don't need experience.to knock you out. I'm a man. that's all I need to beat you and any woman."

Fatihah, in his delusion that he could knock out any woman while bragging about being able to knock me out. An example of 7th century Islamic thinking inspired by his hero the paedophile Muhammad.
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2/28/2016 2:09:18 AM
Posted: 9 months ago
I just started a debate with this topic today at http://www.debate.org...

The Christian God is immoral and all you have to do is read your bible to know that.

If any Christians believe strongly enough that their God is not immoral, feel free to debate me.
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2/28/2016 2:10:23 AM
Posted: 9 months ago
At 2/28/2016 1:33:39 AM, janesix wrote:
At 2/28/2016 1:00:57 AM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 2/27/2016 2:51:43 PM, Chloe8 wrote:
It seems crazy how Christians claim the god they worship is loving kind and forgiving when;

1. He does not provide evidence of his existence.

2. He sends people he dislikes to hell even though he created all of them.

3. He created people with conditions like homosexuality, transexuals and paedophilia.

4. He created people with medical conditions like downs syndrome, dwarfism and deformities.

5. He created people with evil personalities such as Hitler, Stalin and Mao and millions of other criminals.

6. He created many cruel diseases such as multiple sclerosis, dementia, cancer, heart attacks and strokes.

7. He created parasites, viruses and bacteria that cause incredible suffering on their hosts.

8. He creates volcanic eruptions, tsunamis, earthquakes, floods, droughts and hurricanes.

9. He created predatory animals that cruelly hunt and kill other animals.

So Christians do you agree the god you worship is evil?

You obviously have not read the Bible. It tells you why this is how it is. You missed its point.

Show us how the Bible tells us why these things are. Please go point by point.

You don't need multiple points so I will just provide one:

Exodus 35:2 (King James Version)
"Six days shall work be done, but on the seventh day there shall be to you an holy day, a sabbath of rest to the LORD: whosoever doeth work therein shall be put to death."
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2/28/2016 3:06:27 AM
Posted: 9 months ago
At 2/28/2016 1:13:16 AM, Illegalcombatant wrote:
At 2/28/2016 1:00:57 AM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 2/27/2016 2:51:43 PM, Chloe8 wrote:
It seems crazy how Christians claim the god they worship is loving kind and forgiving when;

1. He does not provide evidence of his existence.

2. He sends people he dislikes to hell even though he created all of them.

3. He created people with conditions like homosexuality, transexuals and paedophilia. YouTube

4. He created people with medical conditions like downs syndrome, dwarfism and deformities.

5. He created people with evil personalities such as Hitler, Stalin and Mao and millions of other criminals.

6. He created many cruel diseases such as multiple sclerosis, dementia, cancer, heart attacks and strokes.

7. He created parasites, viruses and bacteria that cause incredible suffering on their hosts.

8. He creates volcanic eruptions, tsunamis, earthquakes, floods, droughts and hurricanes.

9. He created predatory animals that cruelly hunt and kill other animals.

So Christians do you agree the god you worship is evil?

You obviously have not read the Bible. It tells you why this is how it is. You missed its point.

I dunno, I am coming around on the whole drowning babies thing.

How about the stoning adulterers and not eating pork? You missed the guy that renounced all of the Jewish nonsense. That's the whole point of the New Testament. Jesus gave us our commands. His commands being spread throughout the world is why you have rights, namely the right to be an Atheist in the first place.
"What Donald Trump is doing is representing the absolute heartbreak, and anger, and frustration at a government gone mad."

http://youtu.be...
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2/28/2016 3:08:28 AM
Posted: 9 months ago
At 2/28/2016 3:06:27 AM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 2/28/2016 1:13:16 AM, Illegalcombatant wrote:
At 2/28/2016 1:00:57 AM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 2/27/2016 2:51:43 PM, Chloe8 wrote:
It seems crazy how Christians claim the god they worship is loving kind and forgiving when;

1. He does not provide evidence of his existence.

2. He sends people he dislikes to hell even though he created all of them.

3. He created people with conditions like homosexuality, transexuals and paedophilia. YouTube

4. He created people with medical conditions like downs syndrome, dwarfism and deformities.

5. He created people with evil personalities such as Hitler, Stalin and Mao and millions of other criminals.

6. He created many cruel diseases such as multiple sclerosis, dementia, cancer, heart attacks and strokes.

7. He created parasites, viruses and bacteria that cause incredible suffering on their hosts.

8. He creates volcanic eruptions, tsunamis, earthquakes, floods, droughts and hurricanes.

9. He created predatory animals that cruelly hunt and kill other animals.

So Christians do you agree the god you worship is evil?

You obviously have not read the Bible. It tells you why this is how it is. You missed its point.

I dunno, I am coming around on the whole drowning babies thing.

How about the stoning adulterers and not eating pork? You missed the guy that renounced all of the Jewish nonsense. That's the whole point of the New Testament. Jesus gave us our commands. His commands being spread throughout the world is why you have rights, namely the right to be an Atheist in the first place.

Rights? Don't Christians think God will burn and torture forever anyone that disagrees with the bible?
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2/28/2016 3:09:37 AM
Posted: 9 months ago
At 2/28/2016 2:02:28 AM, Chloe8 wrote:
At 2/28/2016 1:00:57 AM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 2/27/2016 2:51:43 PM, Chloe8 wrote:
It seems crazy how Christians claim the god they worship is loving kind and forgiving when;

1. He does not provide evidence of his existence.

2. He sends people he dislikes to hell even though he created all of them.

3. He created people with conditions like homosexuality, transexuals and paedophilia.

4. He created people with medical conditions like downs syndrome, dwarfism and deformities.

5. He created people with evil personalities such as Hitler, Stalin and Mao and millions of other criminals.

6. He created many cruel diseases such as multiple sclerosis, dementia, cancer, heart attacks and strokes.

7. He created parasites, viruses and bacteria that cause incredible suffering on their hosts.

8. He creates volcanic eruptions, tsunamis, earthquakes, floods, droughts and hurricanes.

9. He created predatory animals that cruelly hunt and kill other animals.

So Christians do you agree the god you worship is evil?

You obviously have not read the Bible. It tells you why this is how it is. You missed its point.

Yes I know it's because Adam ate fruit from the sacred tree. I mean this is laughable. A god punishes something he recently created for eating an Apple. Even more laughable is he extends the punishment to the entirety of life on planet earth. Do you really think that is justified? It's absurdly cruel.

The story isn't literal, no apple is mentioned, and we find out what the symbolic ideas within the story actually are as we read the rest of the Bible. We also find out that God allowed this to put the light within the darkness for a reason, because this life is only a vapor compared to eternity.
"What Donald Trump is doing is representing the absolute heartbreak, and anger, and frustration at a government gone mad."

http://youtu.be...
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2/28/2016 3:15:20 AM
Posted: 9 months ago
At 2/28/2016 1:33:39 AM, janesix wrote:
At 2/28/2016 1:00:57 AM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 2/27/2016 2:51:43 PM, Chloe8 wrote:
It seems crazy how Christians claim the god they worship is loving kind and forgiving when;

1. He does not provide evidence of his existence.

2. He sends people he dislikes to hell even though he created all of them.

3. He created people with conditions like homosexuality, transexuals and paedophilia.

4. He created people with medical conditions like downs syndrome, dwarfism and deformities.

5. He created people with evil personalities such as Hitler, Stalin and Mao and millions of other criminals.

6. He created many cruel diseases such as multiple sclerosis, dementia, cancer, heart attacks and strokes.

7. He created parasites, viruses and bacteria that cause incredible suffering on their hosts.

8. He creates volcanic eruptions, tsunamis, earthquakes, floods, droughts and hurricanes.

9. He created predatory animals that cruelly hunt and kill other animals.

So Christians do you agree the god you worship is evil?

You obviously have not read the Bible. It tells you why this is how it is. You missed its point.

Show us how the Bible tells us why these things are. Please go point by point.

God allowed His children to live side by side those who were not His children to show His light compared to the darkness and define it. It gives no one an excuse. They have seen the light and rejected it. And still yet, they are offered life, yet choose death. And some come to Him take His offer of spiritual "adoption". And to those who reject Christ, they bring His blood upon their hands because they reject His sacrifice to them and for them. They turn away from the light. They deny God's grace. They deny God. He gives them their demand.
"What Donald Trump is doing is representing the absolute heartbreak, and anger, and frustration at a government gone mad."

http://youtu.be...
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2/28/2016 3:18:19 AM
Posted: 9 months ago
At 2/28/2016 2:02:28 AM, Chloe8 wrote:
At 2/28/2016 1:00:57 AM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 2/27/2016 2:51:43 PM, Chloe8 wrote:
It seems crazy how Christians claim the god they worship is loving kind and forgiving when;

1. He does not provide evidence of his existence.

2. He sends people he dislikes to hell even though he created all of them.

3. He created people with conditions like homosexuality, transexuals and paedophilia.

4. He created people with medical conditions like downs syndrome, dwarfism and deformities.

5. He created people with evil personalities such as Hitler, Stalin and Mao and millions of other criminals.

6. He created many cruel diseases such as multiple sclerosis, dementia, cancer, heart attacks and strokes.

7. He created parasites, viruses and bacteria that cause incredible suffering on their hosts.

8. He creates volcanic eruptions, tsunamis, earthquakes, floods, droughts and hurricanes.

9. He created predatory animals that cruelly hunt and kill other animals.

So Christians do you agree the god you worship is evil?

You obviously have not read the Bible. It tells you why this is how it is. You missed its point.

Yes I know it's because Adam ate fruit from the sacred tree. I mean this is laughable. A god punishes something he recently created for eating an Apple. Even more laughable is he extends the punishment to the entirety of life on planet earth. Do you really think that is justified? It's absurdly cruel.

"Adam" is the Hebrew word for man. Other beings are mentioned before Adam. Cain, Adam's son finds a wife away from his family because others lived in other lands. This is the story of a falling away from God and towards darkness.
"What Donald Trump is doing is representing the absolute heartbreak, and anger, and frustration at a government gone mad."

http://youtu.be...
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2/28/2016 3:24:31 AM
Posted: 9 months ago
At 2/28/2016 3:06:27 AM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 2/28/2016 1:13:16 AM, Illegalcombatant wrote:
At 2/28/2016 1:00:57 AM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 2/27/2016 2:51:43 PM, Chloe8 wrote:
It seems crazy how Christians claim the god they worship is loving kind and forgiving when;

1. He does not provide evidence of his existence.

2. He sends people he dislikes to hell even though he created all of them.

3. He created people with conditions like homosexuality, transexuals and paedophilia. YouTube

4. He created people with medical conditions like downs syndrome, dwarfism and deformities.

5. He created people with evil personalities such as Hitler, Stalin and Mao and millions of other criminals.

6. He created many cruel diseases such as multiple sclerosis, dementia, cancer, heart attacks and strokes.

7. He created parasites, viruses and bacteria that cause incredible suffering on their hosts.

8. He creates volcanic eruptions, tsunamis, earthquakes, floods, droughts and hurricanes.

9. He created predatory animals that cruelly hunt and kill other animals.

So Christians do you agree the god you worship is evil?

You obviously have not read the Bible. It tells you why this is how it is. You missed its point.

I dunno, I am coming around on the whole drowning babies thing.

How about the stoning adulterers and not eating pork? You missed the guy that renounced all of the Jewish nonsense. That's the whole point of the New Testament. Jesus gave us our commands. His commands being spread throughout the world is why you have rights, namely the right to be an Atheist in the first place.
hahahahahahahahha, tell me how you stop someone being an atheist? Funny as f*ck.
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2/28/2016 3:25:37 AM
Posted: 9 months ago
At 2/28/2016 3:15:20 AM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 2/28/2016 1:33:39 AM, janesix wrote:
At 2/28/2016 1:00:57 AM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 2/27/2016 2:51:43 PM, Chloe8 wrote:
It seems crazy how Christians claim the god they worship is loving kind and forgiving when;

1. He does not provide evidence of his existence.

2. He sends people he dislikes to hell even though he created all of them.

3. He created people with conditions like homosexuality, transexuals and paedophilia.

4. He created people with medical conditions like downs syndrome, dwarfism and deformities.

5. He created people with evil personalities such as Hitler, Stalin and Mao and millions of other criminals.

6. He created many cruel diseases such as multiple sclerosis, dementia, cancer, heart attacks and strokes.

7. He created parasites, viruses and bacteria that cause incredible suffering on their hosts.

8. He creates volcanic eruptions, tsunamis, earthquakes, floods, droughts and hurricanes.

9. He created predatory animals that cruelly hunt and kill other animals.

So Christians do you agree the god you worship is evil?

You obviously have not read the Bible. It tells you why this is how it is. You missed its point.

Show us how the Bible tells us why these things are. Please go point by point.

God allowed His children to live side by side those who were not His children to show His light compared to the darkness and define it. It gives no one an excuse. They have seen the light and rejected it. And still yet, they are offered life, yet choose death. And some come to Him take His offer of spiritual "adoption". And to those who reject Christ, they bring His blood upon their hands because they reject His sacrifice to them and for them. They turn away from the light. They deny God's grace. They deny God. He gives them their demand.

What do you mean, "seen the light" ?
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2/28/2016 4:02:16 AM
Posted: 9 months ago
At 2/27/2016 2:51:43 PM, Chloe8 wrote:
It seems crazy how Christians claim the god they worship is loving kind and forgiving when;

1. He does not provide evidence of his existence.

He provides evidence of his existence by his actions and the created world.


2. He sends people he dislikes to hell even though he created all of them.

Just because he made them does not mean they are not responsible for their own choices. Even if you want to argue that there is no free will, What artist hasn't destroyed a painting they have made, or an inventor who hasn't trashed a machine they made? You haven't made any argument as to why someone being created implies that they should be undeserving of hell.


3. He created people with conditions like homosexuality, transexuals and paedophilia.

I'm not sure what God you are specifically speaking of. But the judo-Christian religion asserts that this world is a fallen world. In a fallen world what was created is going through a process of degradation and corruption.

And in some ways sexual preference is culturally indoctrinated or stems from childhood sexual abuse, or is encouraged by some other factor having more to do with Humans than God.

Let us not forget that there has yet to be any significant genetic source for conditions like homosexuality, transsexualism, ect..

So this implies these conditions are not how God made people.


4. He created people with medical conditions like downs syndrome, dwarfism and deformities.

Well at least we are dealing with genetic abnormalities. Some would say after God made everything he needed, he began to form from what he had on hand. Again being that the 2 flesh that make one flesh in human reproduction has a curse of corruption in it.


5. He created people with evil personalities such as Hitler, Stalin and Mao and millions of other criminals.

So you are arguing that those men had no free will? If we had no free will then all would follow the will of God. While it's obvious not everyone is hearing and doing the will of God, I doubt you would say the will of God is good.


6. He created many cruel diseases such as multiple sclerosis, dementia, cancer, heart attacks and strokes.

Again a fallen world. And what once had a beneficial role to play in hte life of animals and mankind has now become toxic.


7. He created parasites, viruses and bacteria that cause incredible suffering on their hosts.

Again a fallen world. And what once had a beneficial role to play in hte life of animals and mankind has now become toxic.


8. He creates volcanic eruptions, tsunamis, earthquakes, floods, droughts and hurricanes.

These are natural processes that help rejuvenate and recycle the land. If we were a population adherent to the will of God we would probably live in harmony with nature and aid in the recycling process as well.


9. He created predatory animals that cruelly hunt and kill other animals.

This is just you saying that is evil. I could say God made the sky blue and that's evidence of an evil God. What argument do have to support that pain and death is "evil" in all cases?


So Christians do you agree the god you worship is evil?

No. "Good" is doing God's will and "Evil" is doing something other than God's will. Since God does not go against his will he therefore can never be evil.

See I can perform the Atheist tactic of redefining words as want.

While I think those definitions are better to understand christian religious text, I'll add further that you haven't set any standard for what is "evil" and what is "good".
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2/28/2016 4:38:04 AM
Posted: 9 months ago
At 2/28/2016 3:25:37 AM, janesix wrote:
At 2/28/2016 3:15:20 AM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 2/28/2016 1:33:39 AM, janesix wrote:
At 2/28/2016 1:00:57 AM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 2/27/2016 2:51:43 PM, Chloe8 wrote:
It seems crazy how Christians claim the god they worship is loving kind and forgiving when;

1. He does not provide evidence of his existence.

2. He sends people he dislikes to hell even though he created all of them.

3. He created people with conditions like homosexuality, transexuals and paedophilia.

4. He created people with medical conditions like downs syndrome, dwarfism and deformities.

5. He created people with evil personalities such as Hitler, Stalin and Mao and millions of other criminals.

6. He created many cruel diseases such as multiple sclerosis, dementia, cancer, heart attacks and strokes.

7. He created parasites, viruses and bacteria that cause incredible suffering on their hosts.

8. He creates volcanic eruptions, tsunamis, earthquakes, floods, droughts and hurricanes.

9. He created predatory animals that cruelly hunt and kill other animals.

So Christians do you agree the god you worship is evil?

You obviously have not read the Bible. It tells you why this is how it is. You missed its point.

Show us how the Bible tells us why these things are. Please go point by point.

God allowed His children to live side by side those who were not His children to show His light compared to the darkness and define it. It gives no one an excuse. They have seen the light and rejected it. And still yet, they are offered life, yet choose death. And some come to Him take His offer of spiritual "adoption". And to those who reject Christ, they bring His blood upon their hands because they reject His sacrifice to them and for them. They turn away from the light. They deny God's grace. They deny God. He gives them their demand.

What do you mean, "seen the light" ?

The light is everywhere. You are using parts of it to try and make your very point. If we are simply the products of natural selection with no design, there is no objective morality. You are using a sense of Christianized morality to determine morality. Muslims kill adulterers cut off hands of thieves, make women cover up, and force women to have sex with their husbands whenever they wish. They do not deem it as immoral at all, and they make up 1/3 of the world. Hindus and Buddhists do not prescribe to your version of morality, so where do you get your version of mprality from?
"What Donald Trump is doing is representing the absolute heartbreak, and anger, and frustration at a government gone mad."

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2/28/2016 4:39:09 AM
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At 2/28/2016 3:24:31 AM, bulproof wrote:
At 2/28/2016 3:06:27 AM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 2/28/2016 1:13:16 AM, Illegalcombatant wrote:
At 2/28/2016 1:00:57 AM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 2/27/2016 2:51:43 PM, Chloe8 wrote:
It seems crazy how Christians claim the god they worship is loving kind and forgiving when;

1. He does not provide evidence of his existence.

2. He sends people he dislikes to hell even though he created all of them.

3. He created people with conditions like homosexuality, transexuals and paedophilia. YouTube

4. He created people with medical conditions like downs syndrome, dwarfism and deformities.

5. He created people with evil personalities such as Hitler, Stalin and Mao and millions of other criminals.

6. He created many cruel diseases such as multiple sclerosis, dementia, cancer, heart attacks and strokes.

7. He created parasites, viruses and bacteria that cause incredible suffering on their hosts.

8. He creates volcanic eruptions, tsunamis, earthquakes, floods, droughts and hurricanes.

9. He created predatory animals that cruelly hunt and kill other animals.

So Christians do you agree the god you worship is evil?

You obviously have not read the Bible. It tells you why this is how it is. You missed its point.

I dunno, I am coming around on the whole drowning babies thing.

How about the stoning adulterers and not eating pork? You missed the guy that renounced all of the Jewish nonsense. That's the whole point of the New Testament. Jesus gave us our commands. His commands being spread throughout the world is why you have rights, namely the right to be an Atheist in the first place.
hahahahahahahahha, tell me how you stop someone being an atheist? Funny as f*ck.

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2/28/2016 4:42:04 AM
Posted: 9 months ago
At 2/28/2016 3:25:37 AM, janesix wrote:
At 2/28/2016 3:15:20 AM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 2/28/2016 1:33:39 AM, janesix wrote:
At 2/28/2016 1:00:57 AM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 2/27/2016 2:51:43 PM, Chloe8 wrote:
It seems crazy how Christians claim the god they worship is loving kind and forgiving when;

1. He does not provide evidence of his existence.

2. He sends people he dislikes to hell even though he created all of them.

3. He created people with conditions like homosexuality, transexuals and paedophilia.

4. He created people with medical conditions like downs syndrome, dwarfism and deformities.

5. He created people with evil personalities such as Hitler, Stalin and Mao and millions of other criminals.

6. He created many cruel diseases such as multiple sclerosis, dementia, cancer, heart attacks and strokes.

7. He created parasites, viruses and bacteria that cause incredible suffering on their hosts.

8. He creates volcanic eruptions, tsunamis, earthquakes, floods, droughts and hurricanes.

9. He created predatory animals that cruelly hunt and kill other animals.

So Christians do you agree the god you worship is evil?

You obviously have not read the Bible. It tells you why this is how it is. You missed its point.

Show us how the Bible tells us why these things are. Please go point by point.

God allowed His children to live side by side those who were not His children to show His light compared to the darkness and define it. It gives no one an excuse. They have seen the light and rejected it. And still yet, they are offered life, yet choose death. And some come to Him take His offer of spiritual "adoption". And to those who reject Christ, they bring His blood upon their hands because they reject His sacrifice to them and for them. They turn away from the light. They deny God's grace. They deny God. He gives them their demand.

What do you mean, "seen the light" ?

Christ is the light. Do you reject Christ?
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brontoraptor
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2/28/2016 4:45:25 AM
Posted: 9 months ago
At 2/28/2016 3:08:28 AM, matt8800 wrote:
At 2/28/2016 3:06:27 AM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 2/28/2016 1:13:16 AM, Illegalcombatant wrote:
At 2/28/2016 1:00:57 AM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 2/27/2016 2:51:43 PM, Chloe8 wrote:
It seems crazy how Christians claim the god they worship is loving kind and forgiving when;

1. He does not provide evidence of his existence.

2. He sends people he dislikes to hell even though he created all of them.

3. He created people with conditions like homosexuality, transexuals and paedophilia. YouTube

4. He created people with medical conditions like downs syndrome, dwarfism and deformities.

5. He created people with evil personalities such as Hitler, Stalin and Mao and millions of other criminals.

6. He created many cruel diseases such as multiple sclerosis, dementia, cancer, heart attacks and strokes.

7. He created parasites, viruses and bacteria that cause incredible suffering on their hosts.

8. He creates volcanic eruptions, tsunamis, earthquakes, floods, droughts and hurricanes.

9. He created predatory animals that cruelly hunt and kill other animals.

So Christians do you agree the god you worship is evil?

You obviously have not read the Bible. It tells you why this is how it is. You missed its point.

I dunno, I am coming around on the whole drowning babies thing.

How about the stoning adulterers and not eating pork? You missed the guy that renounced all of the Jewish nonsense. That's the whole point of the New Testament. Jesus gave us our commands. His commands being spread throughout the world is why you have rights, namely the right to be an Atheist in the first place.

Rights? Don't Christians think God will burn and torture forever anyone that disagrees with the bible?

Which Christians?

What is Hell?

Who goes there?

Why do they go there?

Do they choose to be there?

What verses do you use to come to your conclusion?

If man rejects God and is kept seperated from God, has He not given them what they have asked for?

Are you "choosing" to reject God right now?
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2/28/2016 5:23:59 AM
Posted: 9 months ago
At 2/27/2016 2:51:43 PM, Chloe8 wrote:
3. He created people with conditions like homosexuality

How is that evil?
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2/28/2016 5:29:07 AM
Posted: 9 months ago
At 2/27/2016 2:51:43 PM, Chloe8 wrote:
It seems crazy how Christians claim the god they worship is loving kind and forgiving when;

1. He does not provide evidence of his existence.

2. He sends people he dislikes to hell even though he created all of them.

3. He created people with conditions like homosexuality, transexuals and paedophilia.

4. He created people with medical conditions like downs syndrome, dwarfism and deformities.

5. He created people with evil personalities such as Hitler, Stalin and Mao and millions of other criminals.

6. He created many cruel diseases such as multiple sclerosis, dementia, cancer, heart attacks and strokes.

7. He created parasites, viruses and bacteria that cause incredible suffering on their hosts.

8. He creates volcanic eruptions, tsunamis, earthquakes, floods, droughts and hurricanes.

9. He created predatory animals that cruelly hunt and kill other animals.

So Christians do you agree the god you worship is evil?

All these points are really the same point--the problem of evil, first stated by Epicurus. Theologians have been wrestling with it for centuries. The problem is how to reconcile an omniscient, omnipotent, omnibenevolent god with the existence of evil. Various explanations have been attempted, such as the idea that what appears evil to our limited minds is really not evil if we could but understand the whole of God's plan--the "God works in mysterious ways" explanation. Probably the best attempt at an explanation is that a universe with freedom for sentient creatures to make evil choices is somehow a greater good overall than a universe without evil, since it allows sentient creatures to have spiritual growth.

To me, however, all the explanations fall short of explaining the random and capricious nature of suffering and misery we observe, especially those caused by natural disasters and diseases.
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2/28/2016 6:07:51 AM
Posted: 9 months ago
At 2/27/2016 2:51:43 PM, Chloe8 wrote:
It seems crazy how Christians claim the god they worship is loving kind and forgiving when;

1. He does not provide evidence of his existence.

2. He sends people he dislikes to hell even though he created all of them.

3. He created people with conditions like homosexuality, transexuals and paedophilia.

4. He created people with medical conditions like downs syndrome, dwarfism and deformities.

5. He created people with evil personalities such as Hitler, Stalin and Mao and millions of other criminals.

6. He created many cruel diseases such as multiple sclerosis, dementia, cancer, heart attacks and strokes.

7. He created parasites, viruses and bacteria that cause incredible suffering on their hosts.

8. He creates volcanic eruptions, tsunamis, earthquakes, floods, droughts and hurricanes.

9. He created predatory animals that cruelly hunt and kill other animals.


You know who is a bigger, better IDIOT than white man?

A white female.
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2/28/2016 6:08:28 AM
Posted: 9 months ago
At 2/28/2016 5:23:59 AM, tejretics wrote:
At 2/27/2016 2:51:43 PM, Chloe8 wrote:
3. He created people with conditions like homosexuality

How is that evil?
I think she means he created homophobes and religions who persecute the different for being different.
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2/28/2016 6:12:15 AM
Posted: 9 months ago
At 2/28/2016 6:07:51 AM, TREssspa wrote:
At 2/27/2016 2:51:43 PM, Chloe8 wrote:
It seems crazy how Christians claim the god they worship is loving kind and forgiving when;

1. He does not provide evidence of his existence.

2. He sends people he dislikes to hell even though he created all of them.

3. He created people with conditions like homosexuality, transexuals and paedophilia.

4. He created people with medical conditions like downs syndrome, dwarfism and deformities.

5. He created people with evil personalities such as Hitler, Stalin and Mao and millions of other criminals.

6. He created many cruel diseases such as multiple sclerosis, dementia, cancer, heart attacks and strokes.

7. He created parasites, viruses and bacteria that cause incredible suffering on their hosts.

8. He creates volcanic eruptions, tsunamis, earthquakes, floods, droughts and hurricanes.

9. He created predatory animals that cruelly hunt and kill other animals.


You know who is a bigger, better IDIOT than white man?

A white female.
Yeah but in the group one stupid stakes nothing can hold a candle to the religious hindu who has the worlds oldest religion that isn't a religion. Huzzah for the hindi wannabe maharajah who's a Buddhist christian shinto.
He's funnier than most of his monkey brothers.
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2/28/2016 2:54:47 PM
Posted: 9 months ago
At 2/28/2016 3:15:20 AM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 2/28/2016 1:33:39 AM, janesix wrote:
At 2/28/2016 1:00:57 AM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 2/27/2016 2:51:43 PM, Chloe8 wrote:
It seems crazy how Christians claim the god they worship is loving kind and forgiving when;

1. He does not provide evidence of his existence.

2. He sends people he dislikes to hell even though he created all of them.

3. He created people with conditions like homosexuality, transexuals and paedophilia.

4. He created people with medical conditions like downs syndrome, dwarfism and deformities.

5. He created people with evil personalities such as Hitler, Stalin and Mao and millions of other criminals.

6. He created many cruel diseases such as multiple sclerosis, dementia, cancer, heart attacks and strokes.

7. He created parasites, viruses and bacteria that cause incredible suffering on their hosts.

8. He creates volcanic eruptions, tsunamis, earthquakes, floods, droughts and hurricanes.

9. He created predatory animals that cruelly hunt and kill other animals.

So Christians do you agree the god you worship is evil?

You obviously have not read the Bible. It tells you why this is how it is. You missed its point.

Show us how the Bible tells us why these things are. Please go point by point.

God allowed His children to live side by side those who were not His children to show His light compared to the darkness and define it. It gives no one an excuse. They have seen the light and rejected it. And still yet, they are offered life, yet choose death. And some come to Him take His offer of spiritual "adoption". And to those who reject Christ, they bring His blood upon their hands because they reject His sacrifice to them and for them. They turn away from the light. They deny God's grace. They deny God. He gives them their demand.

This is ludicrous. How have people rejected God when he has not shown them he exists? There are many people around the world who have not even heard of the bible, Jesus or God. It is also ridiculous Christians mention that Jesus had to make a sacrifice. If the bible was true he is know in heaven. His suffering was less than many humans. Why should millions of humans mourn in the suffering of a god when he makes them suffer every day?

Christianity is so irrational.
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2/28/2016 3:02:18 PM
Posted: 9 months ago
At 2/28/2016 2:54:47 PM, Chloe8 wrote:
This is ludicrous. How have people rejected God when he has not shown them he exists? There are many people around the world who have not even heard of the bible, Jesus or God.
"For his invisible attributes, namely, his eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly perceived, ever since the creation of the world, in the things that have been made. So they are without excuse." - Romans 1:20

Though I know you will beg to differ, the Bible says that God is so obvious, anyone who is not a Christian is consciously deciding to ignore that, and pretend he doesn't exist. I would say that throughout my life as atheist, I was definitely denying god's existence, just for my own selfish desires.

It is also ridiculous Christians mention that Jesus had to make a sacrifice. If the bible was true he is know in heaven. His suffering was less than many humans. Why should millions of humans mourn in the suffering of a god when he makes them suffer every day?

Going to hell, even for a brief moment, is one of the worst things anyone can go through ever. Even worse than all the suffering that has ever happened on earth combined.

Christianity is so irrational.
What else can you expect from a belief about an incomprehensible being?
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2/28/2016 3:08:13 PM
Posted: 9 months ago
At 2/28/2016 2:02:28 AM, Chloe8 wrote:
At 2/28/2016 1:00:57 AM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 2/27/2016 2:51:43 PM, Chloe8 wrote:
It seems crazy how Christians claim the god they worship is loving kind and forgiving when;

1. He does not provide evidence of his existence.

2. He sends people he dislikes to hell even though he created all of them.

3. He created people with conditions like homosexuality, transexuals and paedophilia.

4. He created people with medical conditions like downs syndrome, dwarfism and deformities.

5. He created people with evil personalities such as Hitler, Stalin and Mao and millions of other criminals.

6. He created many cruel diseases such as multiple sclerosis, dementia, cancer, heart attacks and strokes.

7. He created parasites, viruses and bacteria that cause incredible suffering on their hosts.

8. He creates volcanic eruptions, tsunamis, earthquakes, floods, droughts and hurricanes.

9. He created predatory animals that cruelly hunt and kill other animals.

So Christians do you agree the god you worship is evil?

You obviously have not read the Bible. It tells you why this is how it is. You missed its point.

Yes I know it's because Adam ate fruit from the sacred tree. I mean this is laughable. A god punishes something he recently created for eating an Apple. Even more laughable is he extends the punishment to the entirety of life on planet earth. Do you really think that is justified? It's absurdly cruel.

Yet you will see the same Christians condemn North Korea for their policy of jailing the two descending generations of the criminals. Note: Two descending generations. Whereas the culpability of Adam & Eve is stretching several hundreds of generations. Hypocrisy much?
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2/28/2016 3:13:45 PM
Posted: 9 months ago
At 2/28/2016 3:08:13 PM, Jovian wrote:
Yet you will see the same Christians condemn North Korea for their policy of jailing the two descending generations of the criminals. Note: Two descending generations. Whereas the culpability of Adam & Eve is stretching several hundreds of generations. Hypocrisy much?

Ah, but sin is found throughout the human race, not just Adam & Eve. If all the descending generations of criminals were criminals, then they would be right to jail the descendants of criminals because they were criminals.
"Therefore encourage one another and build each other up, just as in fact you are doing."
1 thessalonians, 5:11
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2/28/2016 3:16:42 PM
Posted: 9 months ago
At 2/28/2016 3:13:45 PM, VirBinarus wrote:
At 2/28/2016 3:08:13 PM, Jovian wrote:
Yet you will see the same Christians condemn North Korea for their policy of jailing the two descending generations of the criminals. Note: Two descending generations. Whereas the culpability of Adam & Eve is stretching several hundreds of generations. Hypocrisy much?

Ah, but sin is found throughout the human race, not just Adam & Eve. If all the descending generations of criminals were criminals, then they would be right to jail the descendants of criminals because they were criminals.

Is this an excuse to make women 6000 years afterwards experience severely painful births, which God created as a punishment when Adam ate the apple (Gen 3:16)? Should girls be afraid their whole lives for this event, and then have to go through the pains several times, just because of some old man eating an apple?