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3/1/2016 5:43:33 PM
Posted: 9 months ago
Everyone is familiar with the Christian story of creation. I think many people have heard it so many times, they have become desensitized on how ridiculous it sounds. To put things in perspective, I thought it would be interesting to put up some posts on some other equally insane stories of other religions.

Here is the Hindu version:

Rigveda (a god, of course) had being come into existence as a cosmic egg, hiranyagarbha (a golden egg). All things were made out of the mangled limbs of Purusha, a magnified non-natural man, who was sacrificed by the gods. In the Puranas, Vishnu, in the shape of a boar, plunged into the cosmic waters and brought forth the earth (Bhumi or Prithivi).

The Shatapatha Brahmana says that in the beginning, Prajapati, the first creator or father of all, was alone in the world. He differentiated himself into two beings, husband and wife. The wife, regarding union with her producer as incest, fled from his embraces assuming various animal disguises. The husband pursued in the form of the male of each animal, and from these unions sprang the various species of beasts (Shatapatha Brahmana, xiv. 4, 2). Prajapati was soon replaced with Brahma in the Puranas.

In the Puranas, Brahma the creator was joined in a divine triad with Vishnu and Maheshvara (Shiva), who were the preserver and destroyer, respectively. The universe was created by Brahma, preserved by Vishnu, and destroyed for the next creation by Shiva. However, the birth of Brahma was attributed to Vishnu in some myths. Brahma was often depicted as sitting on a lotus arising from the navel of Vishnu, who was resting on the cosmic serpent, Ananta (Shesha). In the very beginning Vishnu alone was there. When Vishnu thought about creation, Brahma was created from a lotus that came from his navel.

Hmmm...I don't know. After reading it, it sounds pretty plausible ;)
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3/1/2016 5:49:15 PM
Posted: 9 months ago
At 3/1/2016 5:43:33 PM, matt8800 wrote:
Everyone is familiar with the Christian story of creation. I think many people have heard it so many times, they have become desensitized on how ridiculous it sounds. To put things in perspective, I thought it would be interesting to put up some posts on some other equally insane stories of other religions.

Here is the Hindu version:

Rigveda (a god, of course) had being come into existence as a cosmic egg, hiranyagarbha (a golden egg). All things were made out of the mangled limbs of Purusha, a magnified non-natural man, who was sacrificed by the gods. In the Puranas, Vishnu, in the shape of a boar, plunged into the cosmic waters and brought forth the earth (Bhumi or Prithivi).

The Shatapatha Brahmana says that in the beginning, Prajapati, the first creator or father of all, was alone in the world. He differentiated himself into two beings, husband and wife. The wife, regarding union with her producer as incest, fled from his embraces assuming various animal disguises. The husband pursued in the form of the male of each animal, and from these unions sprang the various species of beasts (Shatapatha Brahmana, xiv. 4, 2). Prajapati was soon replaced with Brahma in the Puranas.

In the Puranas, Brahma the creator was joined in a divine triad with Vishnu and Maheshvara (Shiva), who were the preserver and destroyer, respectively. The universe was created by Brahma, preserved by Vishnu, and destroyed for the next creation by Shiva. However, the birth of Brahma was attributed to Vishnu in some myths. Brahma was often depicted as sitting on a lotus arising from the navel of Vishnu, who was resting on the cosmic serpent, Ananta (Shesha). In the very beginning Vishnu alone was there. When Vishnu thought about creation, Brahma was created from a lotus that came from his navel.

Hmmm...I don't know. After reading it, it sounds pretty plausible ;)

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3/1/2016 5:57:10 PM
Posted: 9 months ago
At 3/1/2016 5:49:15 PM, TREssspa wrote:
At 3/1/2016 5:43:33 PM, matt8800 wrote:
Everyone is familiar with the Christian story of creation. I think many people have heard it so many times, they have become desensitized on how ridiculous it sounds. To put things in perspective, I thought it would be interesting to put up some posts on some other equally insane stories of other religions.

Here is the Hindu version:

Rigveda (a god, of course) had being come into existence as a cosmic egg, hiranyagarbha (a golden egg). All things were made out of the mangled limbs of Purusha, a magnified non-natural man, who was sacrificed by the gods. In the Puranas, Vishnu, in the shape of a boar, plunged into the cosmic waters and brought forth the earth (Bhumi or Prithivi).

The Shatapatha Brahmana says that in the beginning, Prajapati, the first creator or father of all, was alone in the world. He differentiated himself into two beings, husband and wife. The wife, regarding union with her producer as incest, fled from his embraces assuming various animal disguises. The husband pursued in the form of the male of each animal, and from these unions sprang the various species of beasts (Shatapatha Brahmana, xiv. 4, 2). Prajapati was soon replaced with Brahma in the Puranas.

In the Puranas, Brahma the creator was joined in a divine triad with Vishnu and Maheshvara (Shiva), who were the preserver and destroyer, respectively. The universe was created by Brahma, preserved by Vishnu, and destroyed for the next creation by Shiva. However, the birth of Brahma was attributed to Vishnu in some myths. Brahma was often depicted as sitting on a lotus arising from the navel of Vishnu, who was resting on the cosmic serpent, Ananta (Shesha). In the very beginning Vishnu alone was there. When Vishnu thought about creation, Brahma was created from a lotus that came from his navel.

Hmmm...I don't know. After reading it, it sounds pretty plausible ;)

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matt8800 earlier claimed to have read BhagvadGita.

HE IS A LIER.

WE DO NOT WANT FOREIGNERS TO TEACH US 'HINDUISM'!

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Very spiritual language, Hari.
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3/1/2016 6:06:10 PM
Posted: 9 months ago
At 3/1/2016 5:49:15 PM, TREssspa wrote:
At 3/1/2016 5:43:33 PM, matt8800 wrote:
Everyone is familiar with the Christian story of creation. I think many people have heard it so many times, they have become desensitized on how ridiculous it sounds. To put things in perspective, I thought it would be interesting to put up some posts on some other equally insane stories of other religions.

Here is the Hindu version:

Rigveda (a god, of course) had being come into existence as a cosmic egg, hiranyagarbha (a golden egg). All things were made out of the mangled limbs of Purusha, a magnified non-natural man, who was sacrificed by the gods. In the Puranas, Vishnu, in the shape of a boar, plunged into the cosmic waters and brought forth the earth (Bhumi or Prithivi).

The Shatapatha Brahmana says that in the beginning, Prajapati, the first creator or father of all, was alone in the world. He differentiated himself into two beings, husband and wife. The wife, regarding union with her producer as incest, fled from his embraces assuming various animal disguises. The husband pursued in the form of the male of each animal, and from these unions sprang the various species of beasts (Shatapatha Brahmana, xiv. 4, 2). Prajapati was soon replaced with Brahma in the Puranas.

In the Puranas, Brahma the creator was joined in a divine triad with Vishnu and Maheshvara (Shiva), who were the preserver and destroyer, respectively. The universe was created by Brahma, preserved by Vishnu, and destroyed for the next creation by Shiva. However, the birth of Brahma was attributed to Vishnu in some myths. Brahma was often depicted as sitting on a lotus arising from the navel of Vishnu, who was resting on the cosmic serpent, Ananta (Shesha). In the very beginning Vishnu alone was there. When Vishnu thought about creation, Brahma was created from a lotus that came from his navel.

Hmmm...I don't know. After reading it, it sounds pretty plausible ;)

LOADED BULL !

matt8800 earlier claimed to have read BhagvadGita.

HE IS A LIER.

WE DO NOT WANT FOREIGNERS TO TEACH US 'HINDUISM'!

FUCK__OFF!

TRE, This is most people in the western world's view of Hinduism. It is in your hands to correct us. Show us what it really is, or else the only thing we can spread about Hinduism is what we know from RS, ie, a list of Gods, and the creation story.

Please though, don't just discount people as "LIERS" and provide no reason why you say so. If you want to call someone a lier, justify your claim. And please don't use that kind of language in this forum. Not only does it offend some, but it also reflects very badly on yourself. It makes you seem like an ignorant idiot.

So, show us your wisdom TRE. Correct our misleadings on Hinduism, but don't just discount what people say without reason.
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3/1/2016 6:08:14 PM
Posted: 9 months ago
At 3/1/2016 5:43:33 PM, matt8800 wrote:
Everyone is familiar with the Christian story of creation. I think many people have heard it so many times, they have become desensitized on how ridiculous it sounds. To put things in perspective, I thought it would be interesting to put up some posts on some other equally insane stories of other religions.

Here is the Hindu version:

Rigveda (a god, of course) had being come into existence as a cosmic egg, hiranyagarbha (a golden egg). All things were made out of the mangled limbs of Purusha, a magnified non-natural man, who was sacrificed by the gods. In the Puranas, Vishnu, in the shape of a boar, plunged into the cosmic waters and brought forth the earth (Bhumi or Prithivi).

The Shatapatha Brahmana says that in the beginning, Prajapati, the first creator or father of all, was alone in the world. He differentiated himself into two beings, husband and wife. The wife, regarding union with her producer as incest, fled from his embraces assuming various animal disguises. The husband pursued in the form of the male of each animal, and from these unions sprang the various species of beasts (Shatapatha Brahmana, xiv. 4, 2). Prajapati was soon replaced with Brahma in the Puranas.

In the Puranas, Brahma the creator was joined in a divine triad with Vishnu and Maheshvara (Shiva), who were the preserver and destroyer, respectively. The universe was created by Brahma, preserved by Vishnu, and destroyed for the next creation by Shiva. However, the birth of Brahma was attributed to Vishnu in some myths. Brahma was often depicted as sitting on a lotus arising from the navel of Vishnu, who was resting on the cosmic serpent, Ananta (Shesha). In the very beginning Vishnu alone was there. When Vishnu thought about creation, Brahma was created from a lotus that came from his navel.

Hmmm...I don't know. After reading it, it sounds pretty plausible ;)

This is from Brahma Purana

In the beginning, there was water everywhere and the Brahman slept on this water in the form of
Vishnu. Since water is called nara and since ayana means a bed, Vishnu is known as Narayana.
In the water there emerged a golden egg. Brahma was born inside this egg. Since he created
himself, he is called Svayambhu, born (bhu) by himself (svayam). For one whole year, Brahma
lived inside the egg. He then split the egg into two and created heaven and the earth from the two
parts of the egg. Skies, directions, time, language and senses were created in both heaven and
earth. From the powers of his mind, Brahma gave birth to seven great sages. Their names were
Marichi, Atri, Angira, Pulastya, Pulaha, Kratu and Vashishtha. Brahma also created the god
Rudra and the sage Sanatkumara.

More Creation

To continue with the process of creation, Brahma gave birth to a man and a woman from his own
body. The man was named Svayambhuva Manu and the woman was named Shatarupa. Humans
are descended from Manu. That is the reason they are known as manava. Manu and Shatarupa
had three sons named Vira, Priyavrata and Uttanapada
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3/1/2016 6:09:14 PM
Posted: 9 months ago
At 3/1/2016 5:43:33 PM, matt8800 wrote:
Everyone is familiar with the Christian story of creation. I think many people have heard it so many times, they have become desensitized on how ridiculous it sounds. To put things in perspective, I thought it would be interesting to put up some posts on some other equally insane stories of other religions.

Here is the Hindu version:

Rigveda (a god, of course) had being come into existence as a cosmic egg, hiranyagarbha (a golden egg). All things were made out of the mangled limbs of Purusha, a magnified non-natural man, who was sacrificed by the gods. In the Puranas, Vishnu, in the shape of a boar, plunged into the cosmic waters and brought forth the earth (Bhumi or Prithivi).

The Shatapatha Brahmana says that in the beginning, Prajapati, the first creator or father of all, was alone in the world. He differentiated himself into two beings, husband and wife. The wife, regarding union with her producer as incest, fled from his embraces assuming various animal disguises. The husband pursued in the form of the male of each animal, and from these unions sprang the various species of beasts (Shatapatha Brahmana, xiv. 4, 2). Prajapati was soon replaced with Brahma in the Puranas.

In the Puranas, Brahma the creator was joined in a divine triad with Vishnu and Maheshvara (Shiva), who were the preserver and destroyer, respectively. The universe was created by Brahma, preserved by Vishnu, and destroyed for the next creation by Shiva. However, the birth of Brahma was attributed to Vishnu in some myths. Brahma was often depicted as sitting on a lotus arising from the navel of Vishnu, who was resting on the cosmic serpent, Ananta (Shesha). In the very beginning Vishnu alone was there. When Vishnu thought about creation, Brahma was created from a lotus that came from his navel.

Hmmm...I don't know. After reading it, it sounds pretty plausible ;)

Here From Vishnu Purana

"O Brahmin! Lord is eternal and endless. Hence, origin of universe, its existence and annihilation
are also unending processes. During the period of Pralaya, the nature exists in a state of
equilibrium. It is during this period that Purusha (masculine forces of creation) separates from
Prakriti (feminine forces of creation) and Kalroop of Vishnu (eternal, unending form of the Lord)
is manifested. Lord Vishnu is beyond all the bonding of life like birth, growth, intelligence,
senses, decay and death. Purusha is the first appearance of Lord Vishnu. Prakriti is the
manifestation of His action while Kalroop is His supreme appearance."

During the Pralaya, there was neither day nor night, neither earth nor sky and neither darkness
nor light. At the subsidence of Pralaya, with His desire, the Lord entered the Purusha who is
beyond all bonding. His entry stimulated the process of creation. First of all, a single great
element originated encompassing all the other lesser elements. From this great element
originated three egos- Sattvic, Rajas and Tamas. Tamas created sky with sound as the main
virtue. The sky then created the sense of touch. Touch produced air. Hence, touch is the main
feature of air; no one can see air but only have an experience of it through touch. Air created
Rupa, which gave birth to fire with Rupa as its main virtue. Fire gave birth to taste. Taste
produced water with taste as its main property. From water originated scent, which produced
earth with scent as the main feature. These senses have no special expression.
The ego Rajas produced ten sense organs whereas the ruling deities of these organs were
produced by Sattvic ego. Thus, the ten deities who rule ten sense organs and the eleventh entity
mind are Sattvic in nature. Skin, eyes, ears, nose and tongue- these five organs aid the mind in its
function. O Maitreya! Anus, sex organs, hands, legs and speech organs are the five organs that
help in action. Works like excretion, reproduction, movement and speech are carried out with the
help of these five organs. All the five elements like sky, air, fire, water and earth are full of
emotions. Hence, they are also known to have a special significance.

All these elements have different and distinct powers. Without their combination, creation of the
universe was impossible. In the beginning, all these elements were present in the great ball or
egg, which came into existence because of the inspiration of the Lord. As this ball increased in
size, it formed the base as Prakriti in which, Lord Vishnu Himself entered as Hiranyagarbh.

When the universe comes into existence, Lord Vishnu fosters it till the end of Kalpa. At the end
of Kalpa, Lord Vishnu Himself devours the entire physical elements in Rudra appearance.
During that time, He inundates the entire universe and Himself sleeps on Shesha in Ksheersagar.

When he awakes once again, He begins the process of creation in the appearance of Brahma.
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3/1/2016 6:24:24 PM
Posted: 9 months ago
At 3/1/2016 6:06:10 PM, VirBinarus wrote:
At 3/1/2016 5:49:15 PM, TREssspa wrote:
At 3/1/2016 5:43:33 PM, matt8800 wrote:
Everyone is familiar with the Christian story of creation. I think many people have heard it so many times, they have become desensitized on how ridiculous it sounds. To put things in perspective, I thought it would be interesting to put up some posts on some other equally insane stories of other religions.

Here is the Hindu version:

Rigveda (a god, of course) had being come into existence as a cosmic egg, hiranyagarbha (a golden egg). All things were made out of the mangled limbs of Purusha, a magnified non-natural man, who was sacrificed by the gods. In the Puranas, Vishnu, in the shape of a boar, plunged into the cosmic waters and brought forth the earth (Bhumi or Prithivi).

The Shatapatha Brahmana says that in the beginning, Prajapati, the first creator or father of all, was alone in the world. He differentiated himself into two beings, husband and wife. The wife, regarding union with her producer as incest, fled from his embraces assuming various animal disguises. The husband pursued in the form of the male of each animal, and from these unions sprang the various species of beasts (Shatapatha Brahmana, xiv. 4, 2). Prajapati was soon replaced with Brahma in the Puranas.

In the Puranas, Brahma the creator was joined in a divine triad with Vishnu and Maheshvara (Shiva), who were the preserver and destroyer, respectively. The universe was created by Brahma, preserved by Vishnu, and destroyed for the next creation by Shiva. However, the birth of Brahma was attributed to Vishnu in some myths. Brahma was often depicted as sitting on a lotus arising from the navel of Vishnu, who was resting on the cosmic serpent, Ananta (Shesha). In the very beginning Vishnu alone was there. When Vishnu thought about creation, Brahma was created from a lotus that came from his navel.

Hmmm...I don't know. After reading it, it sounds pretty plausible ;)

LOADED BULL !

matt8800 earlier claimed to have read BhagvadGita.

HE IS A LIER.

WE DO NOT WANT FOREIGNERS TO TEACH US 'HINDUISM'!

FUCK__OFF!

TRE, This is most people in the western world's view of Hinduism. It is in your hands to correct us. Show us what it really is, or else the only thing we can spread about Hinduism is what we know from RS,


RS ?
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3/1/2016 6:30:26 PM
Posted: 9 months ago
At 3/1/2016 6:24:24 PM, TREssspa wrote:
At 3/1/2016 6:06:10 PM, VirBinarus wrote:
At 3/1/2016 5:49:15 PM, TREssspa wrote:
At 3/1/2016 5:43:33 PM, matt8800 wrote:
Everyone is familiar with the Christian story of creation. I think many people have heard it so many times, they have become desensitized on how ridiculous it sounds. To put things in perspective, I thought it would be interesting to put up some posts on some other equally insane stories of other religions.

Here is the Hindu version:

Rigveda (a god, of course) had being come into existence as a cosmic egg, hiranyagarbha (a golden egg). All things were made out of the mangled limbs of Purusha, a magnified non-natural man, who was sacrificed by the gods. In the Puranas, Vishnu, in the shape of a boar, plunged into the cosmic waters and brought forth the earth (Bhumi or Prithivi).

The Shatapatha Brahmana says that in the beginning, Prajapati, the first creator or father of all, was alone in the world. He differentiated himself into two beings, husband and wife. The wife, regarding union with her producer as incest, fled from his embraces assuming various animal disguises. The husband pursued in the form of the male of each animal, and from these unions sprang the various species of beasts (Shatapatha Brahmana, xiv. 4, 2). Prajapati was soon replaced with Brahma in the Puranas.

In the Puranas, Brahma the creator was joined in a divine triad with Vishnu and Maheshvara (Shiva), who were the preserver and destroyer, respectively. The universe was created by Brahma, preserved by Vishnu, and destroyed for the next creation by Shiva. However, the birth of Brahma was attributed to Vishnu in some myths. Brahma was often depicted as sitting on a lotus arising from the navel of Vishnu, who was resting on the cosmic serpent, Ananta (Shesha). In the very beginning Vishnu alone was there. When Vishnu thought about creation, Brahma was created from a lotus that came from his navel.

Hmmm...I don't know. After reading it, it sounds pretty plausible ;)

LOADED BULL !

matt8800 earlier claimed to have read BhagvadGita.

HE IS A LIER.

WE DO NOT WANT FOREIGNERS TO TEACH US 'HINDUISM'!

FUCK__OFF!

TRE, This is most people in the western world's view of Hinduism. It is in your hands to correct us. Show us what it really is, or else the only thing we can spread about Hinduism is what we know from RS,


RS ?

RS (Religious Studies) or RE (Religious Education) is the academic field of multi-disciplinary, secular study of religious beliefs, behaviors, and institutions. It describes, compares, interprets, and explains religion, emphasizing systematic, historically based, and cross-cultural perspectives.
"Therefore encourage one another and build each other up, just as in fact you are doing."
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3/1/2016 6:30:50 PM
Posted: 9 months ago
At 3/1/2016 5:49:15 PM, TREssspa wrote:
At 3/1/2016 5:43:33 PM, matt8800 wrote:
Everyone is familiar with the Christian story of creation. I think many people have heard it so many times, they have become desensitized on how ridiculous it sounds. To put things in perspective, I thought it would be interesting to put up some posts on some other equally insane stories of other religions.

Here is the Hindu version:

Rigveda (a god, of course) had being come into existence as a cosmic egg, hiranyagarbha (a golden egg). All things were made out of the mangled limbs of Purusha, a magnified non-natural man, who was sacrificed by the gods. In the Puranas, Vishnu, in the shape of a boar, plunged into the cosmic waters and brought forth the earth (Bhumi or Prithivi).

The Shatapatha Brahmana says that in the beginning, Prajapati, the first creator or father of all, was alone in the world. He differentiated himself into two beings, husband and wife. The wife, regarding union with her producer as incest, fled from his embraces assuming various animal disguises. The husband pursued in the form of the male of each animal, and from these unions sprang the various species of beasts (Shatapatha Brahmana, xiv. 4, 2). Prajapati was soon replaced with Brahma in the Puranas.

In the Puranas, Brahma the creator was joined in a divine triad with Vishnu and Maheshvara (Shiva), who were the preserver and destroyer, respectively. The universe was created by Brahma, preserved by Vishnu, and destroyed for the next creation by Shiva. However, the birth of Brahma was attributed to Vishnu in some myths. Brahma was often depicted as sitting on a lotus arising from the navel of Vishnu, who was resting on the cosmic serpent, Ananta (Shesha). In the very beginning Vishnu alone was there. When Vishnu thought about creation, Brahma was created from a lotus that came from his navel.

Hmmm...I don't know. After reading it, it sounds pretty plausible ;)

LOADED BULL !

matt8800 earlier claimed to have read BhagvadGita.

HE IS A LIER.

WE DO NOT WANT FOREIGNERS TO TEACH US 'HINDUISM'!

FUCK__OFF!

Whoa! No need to get so angry. Remember, we are in a religious section of a debate section so there are no "sacred cows" (pun intended).
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3/1/2016 6:33:04 PM
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From VARAHA Purana

Lord Vishnu, in his incarnation of Varaha (a boar), had liberated Prithvi (Mother Earth) from the
clutches of Hiranyaksha, the mighty demon who had abducted her to Rasatal. After being
rescued, Prithvi heaved a sigh of relief and looked at her saviour, who was smiling. She
curiously asked lord Varaha- "How does the process of creation begin in the beginning of each
Kalpa? What is dissolution? How do you nurture the whole creation? In what order do all the
four yugas occur and how are they calculated? Why do you take incarnation in each yuga? All
these things puzzle me a lot and I request you to enlighten me on all these subjects."
Lord Vishnu burst into laughter and the whole universe, including the deities became visible to
Prithvi through his opened mouth. Prithvi became so frightened by this amazing sight that she
started to tremble in fear. Lord Vishnu then transformed his appearance and revealed his divine
form to Prithvi so that she could become free from her fright. When Prithvi saw the divine form
of lord Vishnu, who was in his meditative sleep taking rest on Sheshnag, all her fear vanished.

She was extremely pleased to see the divine appearance of lord Vishnu and thanked her good
fortune. Prithvi, filled with extreme devotion eulogized lord Vishnu.
Lord Vishnu was extremely pleased by her eulogy and said-"The answers to the questions you
have asked are not easy to understand, but still I shall try to satisfy your curiosity. The supreme
Almighty is eternal. In the beginning of creation, Ego (ahamkar) as well as the five basic
elements- space, water, earth, air and fire manifest themselves from the supreme Almighty.

Subsequently, the great element-mahattatva, nature and collective conciousness manifest
themselves. The collective conciousness then combines with each of the three basic qualitiessatva (pure), rajas and tamas (dark) and exits in three different states. Its combination with the
dark quality results into the manifestation of Mahadbrahm which is also called prakriti or nature
by the enlightened ones. Kshetragya (soul) is considered to be more superior than the Prakriti.

This way the different permutations and combinations of all the three gunas with collective
intelligence result into the creation of different "tanmatras"(subtle form of matters). From the
tanmatras are created the "Indriyas" or sense organs. This is the way how the Universe comes
into existence. I then create all the living creatures with the help of five basic elements."
"In the beginning there was nothing but empty space. Subsequently, various natural elements like
shabda (sound), akash (ether), vayu (air), teja (light) and jal (water) came into being respectively
- each of the latter manifesting from the former. Then, I created you (earth) to provide base to all
the living creatures. The combination of earth and water resulted into an egg (anda).

As the egg
grew in size, I manifested myself as Narayan within it. During each kalpa a lotus manifests itself
from my navel upon which is seated lord Brahma. I then request lord Brahma to commence
creation. Inspite of all his efforts, lord Brahma does not succeed in commencing his creation. As
a result he becomes furious and from his fury manifests a divine child who starts to wail
incessantly. The divine child is none other than Rudra who is requested by lord Brahma to begin
creation but the child being incapable of doing that decides to acquire power by doing penance
and enters into deep water."

"Lord Brahma then created Prajapati from his great toe of his right foot and Prajapati's consort
from the great toe of his left foot. The manifestation of Prajapati and his consort marks the
beginning of copulative creation and thus Swayambhuva Manu is born. In the course of time the
population increased. This is the way how creation takes place in each kalpa."
Mother Earth requested lord Varaha to shade some more light on the creational process as her
curiosity had still not been totally satisfied. Lord Varaha replied- "At the end of the last kalpa,
when the whole universe was engulfed in darkness, Narayan went into his yogic-sleep. After
waking up he found the world devoid of any creature. Narayan, being the supreme Almighty- the
creator, the nurturer as well as the annihilator, decided to commence creation. The term Narayan
means one who has his abode in the water- nar means water and ayan means abode. First of all
five types of avidya (false knoledge) manifested from Narayan- tamas (darkness), moha
(attachment), mahamoha (absolute attachment), tamisra (jealousy) and andhatamisra (anger).

After the manifestation of these five avidyas, came into existence immovable things like
mountains, trees etc. These being the primary creations came to be known as mukhya sarga
(main creation). Continuing with his creations, lord Brahma created species that were superior to
the earlier creation-animals. This particular creation was called Tiryaksrota (quadruped). This
way Brahma did his creation. Brahma's sixth creation was called Satvik sarga which consisted of
the deities who were all virtuous by nature. The creation of human beings was seventh in order
and was known as Arvaksrota sarga. Even human beings were of three types- those who were
predominantly virtuous possessed satva guna had radiant personality and never experienced
sorrow but those who possessed rajas and tamas gunas experienced sorrows."

"Brahma's eighth creation was called "Anugrah sarg" in which he created the sages and the
hermits for the benediction of the world. The nineth creation of Lord Brahma was called Kaumar
sarg (creation of adolescent beings). So, these are the nine main types of creation through which
Brahma creates. First of all Rudra and other deities manifested themselves and then came into
being eternal adlescents like Sanak, Sanandan, etc. Subsequently, all the ten manasputras of
Brahma manifested themselves- Marichi, Angira, Atri, Pulah, Kratu, Pulasya, Pracheta, Bhrigu,
Narada and Vashishtha."

"Lord Brahma's first creation-Rudra had manifested himself as Ardha narishwar (half male and
half female). At the request of Brahma, Rudra dismembered his female part resulting into the
creation of two distinct forms- one male and the other female. Later on, ten more Rudras
manifested from the male form and all of them collectively came to be known as 'Eleven
Rudras'."
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3/1/2016 6:43:09 PM
Posted: 9 months ago
At 3/1/2016 5:43:33 PM, matt8800 wrote:
Everyone is familiar with the Christian story of creation. I think many people have heard it so many times, they have become desensitized on how ridiculous it sounds. To put things in perspective, I thought it would be interesting to put up some posts on some other equally insane stories of other religions.

Here is the Hindu version:

Rigveda (a god, of course) had being come into existence as a cosmic egg, hiranyagarbha (a golden egg). All things were made out of the mangled limbs of Purusha, a magnified non-natural man, who was sacrificed by the gods. In the Puranas, Vishnu, in the shape of a boar, plunged into the cosmic waters and brought forth the earth (Bhumi or Prithivi).

The Shatapatha Brahmana says that in the beginning, Prajapati, the first creator or father of all, was alone in the world. He differentiated himself into two beings, husband and wife. The wife, regarding union with her producer as incest, fled from his embraces assuming various animal disguises. The husband pursued in the form of the male of each animal, and from these unions sprang the various species of beasts (Shatapatha Brahmana, xiv. 4, 2). Prajapati was soon replaced with Brahma in the Puranas.

In the Puranas, Brahma the creator was joined in a divine triad with Vishnu and Maheshvara (Shiva), who were the preserver and destroyer, respectively. The universe was created by Brahma, preserved by Vishnu, and destroyed for the next creation by Shiva. However, the birth of Brahma was attributed to Vishnu in some myths. Brahma was often depicted as sitting on a lotus arising from the navel of Vishnu, who was resting on the cosmic serpent, Ananta (Shesha). In the very beginning Vishnu alone was there. When Vishnu thought about creation, Brahma was created from a lotus that came from his navel.

Hmmm...I don't know. After reading it, it sounds pretty plausible ;)

Another creation , This time ISKCON

1) Purusa-avataras

incarnations of lord sri krishna ; Lord Sri Krishna is the svayam-rupa Personality of Godhead, and all other forms of Godhead are Lord Sri Krishna's plenary portions and integrated parts. Balarama is the first plenary manifestation of Lord Krishna. From Baladeva expands Sankarshana, Vasudeva, Pradyumna and Aniruddha. From Sankarshana there is an expansion of Narayana, and from Narayana there is a second quadruple expansion of Sankarshana, Vasudeva, Pradyumna and Aniruddha. From second Sankarshana comes Maha-Vishnu - the first purusa-avatara. Maha-Vishnu in the Causal Ocean, is the creator of the aggregate material energy. Garbhodakasayi Vishnu, is an expansion of Pradyumna; and the third purusa Ksirodakasayi Vishnu, is an expansion of Aniruddha.

i) Maha-Vishnu or Karanodakasayi avatara

lord sri krishna and his incarnations ; These innumerable universes are produced from the pores of the Maha-Vishnu's body. As innumerable particles of dust pass through tiny holes in a screen, innumerable universes emanate from the pores of Maha-Vishnu's body. As He breathes out, innumerable universes are produced, and as He inhales, they are annihilated. All of the energies of Maha-Vishnu are spiritual, and they have nothing to do with material energy. In Brahma-samhita (5.48) it is stated that the predominating deity of each universe, Brahma, lives only during one breath of Maha-Vishnu. Thus Maha-Vishnu is the original Supersoul of all the universes and the master of all universes as well.

ii) Garbhodakasayi Vishnu

lord sri krishna and his incarnations ; The second Vishnu incarnation, the Garbhodakasayi Vishnu, enters each and every universe, spreads water from His body, and lies down on that water. From His navel, the stem of a lotus flower grows, and on that lotus flower the first creature, Brahma, is born. Within the stem of that lotus flower are fourteen divisions of planetary systems, which are created by Brahma. Within each universe the Lord is present as the Garbhodakasayi Vishnu, and He maintains each universe and tends to its needs. Although He is within each material universe, the influence of material energy cannot touch Him. When it is required, this very same Vishnu takes the form of Lord Siva and annihilates the cosmic creation. The three secondary incarnations - Brahma, Vishnu and Siva - are the predominating deities of the three modes of material nature. The master of the universe, however, is the GarbhodakaSayi Vishnu, who is worshiped as the Hiranyagarbha Supersoul. The Vedic hymns describe Him as having thousands of heads. Although He is within the material nature, He is not touched by it.

iii) Ksirodakasayi Vishnu

lord sri krishna and his incarnations ; The third incarnation of Vishnu, is also an incarnation of the mode of goodness. He is also the Supersoul of all living entities, and He resides on the ocean of milk within the universe.
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3/1/2016 6:47:28 PM
Posted: 9 months ago
At 3/1/2016 6:30:26 PM, VirBinarus wrote:
At 3/1/2016 6:24:24 PM, TREssspa wrote:
At 3/1/2016 6:06:10 PM, VirBinarus wrote:
At 3/1/2016 5:49:15 PM, TREssspa wrote:
At 3/1/2016 5:43:33 PM, matt8800 wrote:
Everyone is familiar with the Christian story of creation. I think many people have heard it so many times, they have become desensitized on how ridiculous it sounds. To put things in perspective, I thought it would be interesting to put up some posts on some other equally insane stories of other religions.

Here is the Hindu version:

Rigveda (a god, of course) had being come into existence as a cosmic egg, hiranyagarbha (a golden egg). All things were made out of the mangled limbs of Purusha, a magnified non-natural man, who was sacrificed by the gods. In the Puranas, Vishnu, in the shape of a boar, plunged into the cosmic waters and brought forth the earth (Bhumi or Prithivi).

The Shatapatha Brahmana says that in the beginning, Prajapati, the first creator or father of all, was alone in the world. He differentiated himself into two beings, husband and wife. The wife, regarding union with her producer as incest, fled from his embraces assuming various animal disguises. The husband pursued in the form of the male of each animal, and from these unions sprang the various species of beasts (Shatapatha Brahmana, xiv. 4, 2). Prajapati was soon replaced with Brahma in the Puranas.

In the Puranas, Brahma the creator was joined in a divine triad with Vishnu and Maheshvara (Shiva), who were the preserver and destroyer, respectively. The universe was created by Brahma, preserved by Vishnu, and destroyed for the next creation by Shiva. However, the birth of Brahma was attributed to Vishnu in some myths. Brahma was often depicted as sitting on a lotus arising from the navel of Vishnu, who was resting on the cosmic serpent, Ananta (Shesha). In the very beginning Vishnu alone was there. When Vishnu thought about creation, Brahma was created from a lotus that came from his navel.

Hmmm...I don't know. After reading it, it sounds pretty plausible ;)

LOADED BULL !

matt8800 earlier claimed to have read BhagvadGita.

HE IS A LIER.

WE DO NOT WANT FOREIGNERS TO TEACH US 'HINDUISM'!

FUCK__OFF!

TRE, This is most people in the western world's view of Hinduism. It is in your hands to correct us. Show us what it really is, or else the only thing we can spread about Hinduism is what we know from RS,


RS ?

RS (Religious Studies) or RE (Religious Education) is the academic field of multi-disciplinary, secular study of religious beliefs, behaviors, and institutions. It describes, compares, interprets, and explains religion, emphasizing systematic, historically based, and cross-cultural perspectives.

Boring.
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3/1/2016 6:47:54 PM
Posted: 9 months ago
At 3/1/2016 5:43:33 PM, matt8800 wrote:
Everyone is familiar with the Christian story of creation. I think many people have heard it so many times, they have become desensitized on how ridiculous it sounds. To put things in perspective, I thought it would be interesting to put up some posts on some other equally insane stories of other religions.

Here is the Hindu version:

Rigveda (a god, of course) had being come into existence as a cosmic egg, hiranyagarbha (a golden egg). All things were made out of the mangled limbs of Purusha, a magnified non-natural man, who was sacrificed by the gods. In the Puranas, Vishnu, in the shape of a boar, plunged into the cosmic waters and brought forth the earth (Bhumi or Prithivi).

The Shatapatha Brahmana says that in the beginning, Prajapati, the first creator or father of all, was alone in the world. He differentiated himself into two beings, husband and wife. The wife, regarding union with her producer as incest, fled from his embraces assuming various animal disguises. The husband pursued in the form of the male of each animal, and from these unions sprang the various species of beasts (Shatapatha Brahmana, xiv. 4, 2). Prajapati was soon replaced with Brahma in the Puranas.

In the Puranas, Brahma the creator was joined in a divine triad with Vishnu and Maheshvara (Shiva), who were the preserver and destroyer, respectively. The universe was created by Brahma, preserved by Vishnu, and destroyed for the next creation by Shiva. However, the birth of Brahma was attributed to Vishnu in some myths. Brahma was often depicted as sitting on a lotus arising from the navel of Vishnu, who was resting on the cosmic serpent, Ananta (Shesha). In the very beginning Vishnu alone was there. When Vishnu thought about creation, Brahma was created from a lotus that came from his navel.

Hmmm...I don't know. After reading it, it sounds pretty plausible ;)

Wow. How could anybody actually believe any of this! It's amazing millions of people actually do! The sheer randomness and absurdity of it!
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3/1/2016 6:48:25 PM
Posted: 9 months ago
At 3/1/2016 5:43:33 PM, matt8800 wrote:
Everyone is familiar with the Christian story of creation. I think many people have heard it so many times, they have become desensitized on how ridiculous it sounds. To put things in perspective, I thought it would be interesting to put up some posts on some other equally insane stories of other religions.

Here is the Hindu version:

Rigveda (a god, of course) had being come into existence as a cosmic egg, hiranyagarbha (a golden egg). All things were made out of the mangled limbs of Purusha, a magnified non-natural man, who was sacrificed by the gods. In the Puranas, Vishnu, in the shape of a boar, plunged into the cosmic waters and brought forth the earth (Bhumi or Prithivi).

The Shatapatha Brahmana says that in the beginning, Prajapati, the first creator or father of all, was alone in the world. He differentiated himself into two beings, husband and wife. The wife, regarding union with her producer as incest, fled from his embraces assuming various animal disguises. The husband pursued in the form of the male of each animal, and from these unions sprang the various species of beasts (Shatapatha Brahmana, xiv. 4, 2). Prajapati was soon replaced with Brahma in the Puranas.

In the Puranas, Brahma the creator was joined in a divine triad with Vishnu and Maheshvara (Shiva), who were the preserver and destroyer, respectively. The universe was created by Brahma, preserved by Vishnu, and destroyed for the next creation by Shiva. However, the birth of Brahma was attributed to Vishnu in some myths. Brahma was often depicted as sitting on a lotus arising from the navel of Vishnu, who was resting on the cosmic serpent, Ananta (Shesha). In the very beginning Vishnu alone was there. When Vishnu thought about creation, Brahma was created from a lotus that came from his navel.

Hmmm...I don't know. After reading it, it sounds pretty plausible ;)

This is as per Devi ( Goddess ) Purana

In Srimad Devi Bhagwat Purana's 1st book and 4th chapter. Devi addressed Trimurti as follows:

"I am Adi Parashakti, goddess Bhuvaneshvari. I am the owner of this universe. I am the Absolute Reality. I am dynamic in feminine form and static in masculine form. You have appeared to govern the universe through my energy. You are the masculine form of Absolute Reality, while I am the feminine form of that Reality. I am beyond form, beyond everything, and all the powers of God are contained within me. You must know that that I am the Eternal limitless energy.

She then said: Brahma! You will be generator of the universe; the Goddess Sharada (saraswati) is your consort, my form by which I will be recognized as the goddess of wisdom and the primeval sound. Lord Brahma, this goddess will be with you when you create the universe.

She continued: Lord Narayana! You are the Supreme, Immortal Spirit. You are formless, yet you take form. I assign you to be the preserver of the universe. You will take a different incarnations in order to save this universe's inhabitants. Oh Narayana! You are the Supreme of all the deities with form. You have created Lord Brahma, and Brahma will further create thirty three kind of gods and goddesses. My Great Power, goddess Mahakali, has been born from your mystic sleep. You are the Paramatman. Your consort will be goddess Shri Maha Lakshmi, my form. Lord Vishnu, this goddess will be with you when you rule/maintain the universe. When life evolves, you will take the form of Vishnu, the one who will perform the task of observing and preserving this universe.

At Last she instructed: Oh Lord Rudra, the Great Lord, you are the personification of time, which is above all. You will perform the task of destroying and regenerating this universe. When you are formless absolute, time stands still. It is due to my power that you become dynamic and are capable of bringing about the destruction and regeneration of this universe. Your consort is goddess Mahakali, Mahakali is myself , my full form , where Laxmi and Saraswati are just my clone, partial form. But due to meditation, you will surpass all my forms. It is then that I will incarnate from your left half in my manifested form. This form will be my truest manifested form. Lord Shiva, she will perform the task of destroying evil and will be your consort. Aum Shakti is used to describe the name of the goddess when she is without attributes. It is hence to consider Adi Shakti as supreme primordial energy. If we analyze all the sacred texts of Indian legends then it is legitimate to consider Adi parashakti as supreme being.
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3/1/2016 7:09:41 PM
Posted: 9 months ago
At 3/1/2016 6:30:50 PM, matt8800 wrote:
At 3/1/2016 5:49:15 PM, TREssspa wrote:
At 3/1/2016 5:43:33 PM, matt8800 wrote:
Everyone is familiar with the Christian story of creation. I think many people have heard it so many times, they have become desensitized on how ridiculous it sounds. To put things in perspective, I thought it would be interesting to put up some posts on some other equally insane stories of other religions.

Here is the Hindu version:

Rigveda (a god, of course) had being come into existence as a cosmic egg, hiranyagarbha (a golden egg). All things were made out of the mangled limbs of Purusha, a magnified non-natural man, who was sacrificed by the gods. In the Puranas, Vishnu, in the shape of a boar, plunged into the cosmic waters and brought forth the earth (Bhumi or Prithivi).

The Shatapatha Brahmana says that in the beginning, Prajapati, the first creator or father of all, was alone in the world. He differentiated himself into two beings, husband and wife. The wife, regarding union with her producer as incest, fled from his embraces assuming various animal disguises. The husband pursued in the form of the male of each animal, and from these unions sprang the various species of beasts (Shatapatha Brahmana, xiv. 4, 2). Prajapati was soon replaced with Brahma in the Puranas.

In the Puranas, Brahma the creator was joined in a divine triad with Vishnu and Maheshvara (Shiva), who were the preserver and destroyer, respectively. The universe was created by Brahma, preserved by Vishnu, and destroyed for the next creation by Shiva. However, the birth of Brahma was attributed to Vishnu in some myths. Brahma was often depicted as sitting on a lotus arising from the navel of Vishnu, who was resting on the cosmic serpent, Ananta (Shesha). In the very beginning Vishnu alone was there. When Vishnu thought about creation, Brahma was created from a lotus that came from his navel.

Hmmm...I don't know. After reading it, it sounds pretty plausible ;)

LOADED BULL !

matt8800 earlier claimed to have read BhagvadGita.

HE IS A LIER.

WE DO NOT WANT FOREIGNERS TO TEACH US 'HINDUISM'!

FUCK__OFF!

Whoa! No need to get so angry. Remember, we are in a religious section of a debate section so there are no "sacred cows" (pun intended).

Cows are Not sacred in Sanatan Dharm.

Gaus are sacred in Sanatan Dharm.

The Vedic Humped Gau gives A2 milk. Indian Gaus A2 milk is different than A2 milk obtained from other cows.

We in India make ghee, Not butter.

Ghee gets better with time. It lasts forever.

Aged Ghee has more medicinal properties. Ayurveda is more than 6000 years old.

The dung cakes of Vedic humped 'cows' have very special properties required in yagnas that produce nitric oxide.

The nadi in the hump of a Vedic cow is connected with sun.

THIS IS THE FIRST TIME IT IS BEING TOLD ON THIS PLANET.

VEDIC HUMPED COW URINE GIVES CELLULASE.

OOOPPPSSS ! Now immoral rogues are gonna patent it in their names .

BUT THIS IS RECORDED IN AYURVEDA 6200 YEARS AGO.

THIS IS THE FIRST TIME IT IS BEING TOLD ON THIS PLANET THAT HUMPED COW URINE WITH GOD GIVEN ENZYMES CAN SAVE YOU.

Cellulase helps breaks down cellulose into beta-glucose.

The cell wall of common intestinal yeast such as Candida species have been found to be made mainly from cellulose.

Cellulase is the enzyme that breaks down cellulose and hence, when significant concentrations come into contact with yeast cells the cell wall is irreparably damaged and the organism dies.

well, well what do you know..

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3/1/2016 7:10:16 PM
Posted: 9 months ago
At 3/1/2016 6:47:28 PM, TREssspa wrote:
At 3/1/2016 6:30:26 PM, VirBinarus wrote:
At 3/1/2016 6:24:24 PM, TREssspa wrote:
At 3/1/2016 6:06:10 PM, VirBinarus wrote:
At 3/1/2016 5:49:15 PM, TREssspa wrote:
At 3/1/2016 5:43:33 PM, matt8800 wrote:
Everyone is familiar with the Christian story of creation. I think many people have heard it so many times, they have become desensitized on how ridiculous it sounds. To put things in perspective, I thought it would be interesting to put up some posts on some other equally insane stories of other religions.

Here is the Hindu version:

Rigveda (a god, of course) had being come into existence as a cosmic egg, hiranyagarbha (a golden egg). All things were made out of the mangled limbs of Purusha, a magnified non-natural man, who was sacrificed by the gods. In the Puranas, Vishnu, in the shape of a boar, plunged into the cosmic waters and brought forth the earth (Bhumi or Prithivi).

The Shatapatha Brahmana says that in the beginning, Prajapati, the first creator or father of all, was alone in the world. He differentiated himself into two beings, husband and wife. The wife, regarding union with her producer as incest, fled from his embraces assuming various animal disguises. The husband pursued in the form of the male of each animal, and from these unions sprang the various species of beasts (Shatapatha Brahmana, xiv. 4, 2). Prajapati was soon replaced with Brahma in the Puranas.

In the Puranas, Brahma the creator was joined in a divine triad with Vishnu and Maheshvara (Shiva), who were the preserver and destroyer, respectively. The universe was created by Brahma, preserved by Vishnu, and destroyed for the next creation by Shiva. However, the birth of Brahma was attributed to Vishnu in some myths. Brahma was often depicted as sitting on a lotus arising from the navel of Vishnu, who was resting on the cosmic serpent, Ananta (Shesha). In the very beginning Vishnu alone was there. When Vishnu thought about creation, Brahma was created from a lotus that came from his navel.

Hmmm...I don't know. After reading it, it sounds pretty plausible ;)

LOADED BULL !

matt8800 earlier claimed to have read BhagvadGita.

HE IS A LIER.

WE DO NOT WANT FOREIGNERS TO TEACH US 'HINDUISM'!

FUCK__OFF!

TRE, This is most people in the western world's view of Hinduism. It is in your hands to correct us. Show us what it really is, or else the only thing we can spread about Hinduism is what we know from RS,


RS ?

RS (Religious Studies) or RE (Religious Education) is the academic field of multi-disciplinary, secular study of religious beliefs, behaviors, and institutions. It describes, compares, interprets, and explains religion, emphasizing systematic, historically based, and cross-cultural perspectives.

Boring.

Yes, that story is what we are told in school. You called him a liar, so could you please explain why. As an outsider to Hinduism, that is basically all I know about it. So please, explain to us what the correct story is.
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3/2/2016 2:02:40 PM
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The Hindu story of creation is a complete story that bridges creation with evolution with its emphasis on the cycle of creation and destruction. It also answers the paradox of the chicken or the egg. In the Rigveda (10.121) the Hiranyagarbha (literally, golden embryo/womb/egg) that existed before the creation. No chicken before the egg.

"It is generally known that the Indians believed in a cyclic universe. This idea is related to three other beliefs: (i), time is endless and space has infinite extension; (ii), earth is not the center of the universe; and (iii), laws govern all development, including the creation and destruction of the universe. It was believed that there are connections between the physical and the psychological worlds, and an equivalence existed between the outer cosmos and the inner cosmos of the individual.

The original concept of trinity came from Hinduism. Brahma, Vishnu and Shiva. What is even more fascinating about Hinduism is the early recognition of consciousness which is drawing considerable attention in the field of Quantum Physics.

"In recent years physicists have had to address the interplay of consciousness and the physical world. In Quantum Physics much has been made over Bell's Theorem. The implications of this theorem and the experimental findings that flow from it are staggering. They force us to consider that the entire notion of a purely objective world is in conflict not only with the theory of quantum mechanics, but with the facts drawn from actual experiments. These findings point insistently to a profound interaction between conscious mental activity and the physical world itself.

How Hinduism responds to Darwinism.
Sri Aurobindo wrote:"It is not what we descended from, but what we ascend to that feeds our human aspiration."

"Darwin and his followers were solely concerned with the evolution of physical forms and structures, whereas in the Hindu thought, it sees evolution from the standpoint of the atman (True Self). The Hindu view is, human beings are composed not just of one thing, matter, but of three things, stula (matter), manas (mind), and atman (spirit). The atman is said to be shrouded by panchakosha (five sheaths) respectively. The first sheath is called the annamaya or one made of food, the next one pranamaya or made of breath, then the manomaya or made of mind, followed by vignyanamaya or discriminative intelligence and finally a sheath of eternal happiness, ananda or Bliss."

The beauty of Hinduism is captured in the practical essence of its beliefs.
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3/2/2016 2:07:16 PM
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At 3/2/2016 2:02:40 PM, Harikrish wrote:
The Hindu story of creation is a complete story that bridges creation with evolution with its emphasis on the cycle of creation and destruction. It also answers the paradox of the chicken or the egg. In the Rigveda (10.121) the Hiranyagarbha (literally, golden embryo/womb/egg) that existed before the creation. No chicken before the egg.

"It is generally known that the Indians believed in a cyclic universe. This idea is related to three other beliefs: (i), time is endless and space has infinite extension; (ii), earth is not the center of the universe; and (iii), laws govern all development, including the creation and destruction of the universe. It was believed that there are connections between the physical and the psychological worlds, and an equivalence existed between the outer cosmos and the inner cosmos of the individual.

The original concept of trinity came from Hinduism. Brahma, Vishnu and Shiva. What is even more fascinating about Hinduism is the early recognition of consciousness which is drawing considerable attention in the field of Quantum Physics.

"In recent years physicists have had to address the interplay of consciousness and the physical world. In Quantum Physics much has been made over Bell's Theorem. The implications of this theorem and the experimental findings that flow from it are staggering. They force us to consider that the entire notion of a purely objective world is in conflict not only with the theory of quantum mechanics, but with the facts drawn from actual experiments. These findings point insistently to a profound interaction between conscious mental activity and the physical world itself.

How Hinduism responds to Darwinism.
Sri Aurobindo wrote:"It is not what we descended from, but what we ascend to that feeds our human aspiration."

"Darwin and his followers were solely concerned with the evolution of physical forms and structures, whereas in the Hindu thought, it sees evolution from the standpoint of the atman (True Self). The Hindu view is, human beings are composed not just of one thing, matter, but of three things, stula (matter), manas (mind), and atman (spirit). The atman is said to be shrouded by panchakosha (five sheaths) respectively. The first sheath is called the annamaya or one made of food, the next one pranamaya or made of breath, then the manomaya or made of mind, followed by vignyanamaya or discriminative intelligence and finally a sheath of eternal happiness, ananda or Bliss."

The beauty of Hinduism is captured in the practical essence of its beliefs.

Very good.
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3/2/2016 2:20:26 PM
Posted: 9 months ago
At 3/2/2016 2:02:40 PM, Harikrish wrote:
The Hindu story of creation is a complete story that bridges creation with evolution with its emphasis on the cycle of creation and destruction.

Except, for the fact that evolution, natural selection and diversity of species was never conceived in the Hindu creation story prior to Darwin and is essentially a creation story not much different than any other religion.

It also answers the paradox of the chicken or the egg. In the Rigveda (10.121) the Hiranyagarbha (literally, golden embryo/womb/egg) that existed before the creation. No chicken before the egg.

The egg evolved before there were birds.

"It is generally known that the Indians believed in a cyclic universe. This idea is related to three other beliefs: (i), time is endless and space has infinite extension; (ii), earth is not the center of the universe; and (iii), laws govern all development, including the creation and destruction of the universe. It was believed that there are connections between the physical and the psychological worlds, and an equivalence existed between the outer cosmos and the inner cosmos of the individual.

Indian mythology obviously never heard of entropy, which would demonstrate those beliefs have no merit.

The original concept of trinity came from Hinduism. Brahma, Vishnu and Shiva. What is even more fascinating about Hinduism is the early recognition of consciousness which is drawing considerable attention in the field of Quantum Physics.

And yet, no such thing as quantum field theory had ever been conceived in Hinduism.

"In recent years physicists have had to address the interplay of consciousness and the physical world.

Physicists don't really have anything to do with neurosciences.

In Quantum Physics much has been made over Bell's Theorem. The implications of this theorem and the experimental findings that flow from it are staggering. They force us to consider that the entire notion of a purely objective world is in conflict not only with the theory of quantum mechanics, but with the facts drawn from actual experiments. These findings point insistently to a profound interaction between conscious mental activity and the physical world itself.

What experiments, exactly?

How Hinduism responds to Darwinism.
Sri Aurobindo wrote:"It is not what we descended from, but what we ascend to that feeds our human aspiration."

"Darwin and his followers were solely concerned with the evolution of physical forms and structures, whereas in the Hindu thought, it sees evolution from the standpoint of the atman (True Self). The Hindu view is, human beings are composed not just of one thing, matter, but of three things, stula (matter), manas (mind), and atman (spirit).

And yet, the "spirit" has never been shown to exist, hence the Hindu thought is more of an imaginary belief system not rooted in reality.

The atman is said to be shrouded by panchakosha (five sheaths) respectively. The first sheath is called the annamaya or one made of food, the next one pranamaya or made of breath, then the manomaya or made of mind, followed by vignyanamaya or discriminative intelligence and finally a sheath of eternal happiness, ananda or Bliss."

That sounds like gibberish. The latter five are quite understood and are not explained with the imaginary belief system of the spirit.

The beauty of Hinduism is captured in the practical essence of its beliefs.

The beauty of reality is not captured in beliefs, but instead, with an understanding of how things work through the scientific process.
Marrying a 6 year old and waiting until she reaches puberty and maturity before having consensual sex is better than walking up to
a stranger in a bar and proceeding to have relations with no valid proof of the intent of the person. Muhammad wins. ~ Fatihah
If they don't want to be killed then they have to subdue to the Islamic laws. - Uncung
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At 3/2/2016 2:20:26 PM, DanneJeRusse wrote:
At 3/2/2016 2:02:40 PM, Harikrish wrote:
The Hindu story of creation is a complete story that bridges creation with evolution with its emphasis on the cycle of creation and destruction.

Except, for the fact that evolution, natural selection and diversity of species was never conceived in the Hindu creation story prior to Darwin and is essentially a creation story not much different than any other religion.

It also answers the paradox of the chicken or the egg. In the Rigveda (10.121) the Hiranyagarbha (literally, golden embryo/womb/egg) that existed before the creation. No chicken before the egg.

The egg evolved before there were birds.

"It is generally known that the Indians believed in a cyclic universe. This idea is related to three other beliefs: (i), time is endless and space has infinite extension; (ii), earth is not the center of the universe; and (iii), laws govern all development, including the creation and destruction of the universe. It was believed that there are connections between the physical and the psychological worlds, and an equivalence existed between the outer cosmos and the inner cosmos of the individual.

Indian mythology obviously never heard of entropy, which would demonstrate those beliefs have no merit.

The original concept of trinity came from Hinduism. Brahma, Vishnu and Shiva. What is even more fascinating about Hinduism is the early recognition of consciousness which is drawing considerable attention in the field of Quantum Physics.

And yet, no such thing as quantum field theory had ever been conceived in Hinduism.

Ever wonder why we break coconut?

"In recent years physicists have had to address the interplay of consciousness and the physical world.

Physicists don't really have anything to do with neurosciences.

In Quantum Physics much has been made over Bell's Theorem. The implications of this theorem and the experimental findings that flow from it are staggering. They force us to consider that the entire notion of a purely objective world is in conflict not only with the theory of quantum mechanics, but with the facts drawn from actual experiments. These findings point insistently to a profound interaction between conscious mental activity and the physical world itself.

What experiments, exactly?

How Hinduism responds to Darwinism.
Sri Aurobindo wrote:"It is not what we descended from, but what we ascend to that feeds our human aspiration."

"Darwin and his followers were solely concerned with the evolution of physical forms and structures, whereas in the Hindu thought, it sees evolution from the standpoint of the atman (True Self). The Hindu view is, human beings are composed not just of one thing, matter, but of three things, stula (matter), manas (mind), and atman (spirit).

And yet, the "spirit" has never been shown to exist, hence the Hindu thought is more of an imaginary belief system not rooted in reality.

The atman is said to be shrouded by panchakosha (five sheaths) respectively. The first sheath is called the annamaya or one made of food, the next one pranamaya or made of breath, then the manomaya or made of mind, followed by vignyanamaya or discriminative intelligence and finally a sheath of eternal happiness, ananda or Bliss."

That sounds like gibberish. The latter five are quite understood and are not explained with the imaginary belief system of the spirit.

The beauty of Hinduism is captured in the practical essence of its beliefs.

The beauty of reality is not captured in beliefs, but instead, with an understanding of how things work through the scientific process.

You guys have redefined science. For you, materialism is science.

People in west rediculed Hinduism for saying that there are seven horses for the chariot of sun god.

Today, you know about VIBGYOR.

This sequence of colours is there in our thousand of years old temples.

There were pinhole cameras in ancient temples.

Modern science is Not even the dirt under the fingernail of Vigyan.

You have read nothing but bull on internet.

Western scientists stole from Vedas shamelessly. I have the pictures.

I can crush your ego in seconds, I'm a good guy. I am still experimenting with DDO.

KNOWLEDGE WAS AN ART IN ANCIENT INDIA.

Russe, Hinduism is Not for small minds.

I'm sorry.
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3/2/2016 2:48:40 PM
Posted: 9 months ago
At 3/2/2016 2:45:23 PM, TREssspa wrote:
At 3/2/2016 2:20:26 PM, DanneJeRusse wrote:
At 3/2/2016 2:02:40 PM, Harikrish wrote:
The Hindu story of creation is a complete story that bridges creation with evolution with its emphasis on the cycle of creation and destruction.

Except, for the fact that evolution, natural selection and diversity of species was never conceived in the Hindu creation story prior to Darwin and is essentially a creation story not much different than any other religion.

It also answers the paradox of the chicken or the egg. In the Rigveda (10.121) the Hiranyagarbha (literally, golden embryo/womb/egg) that existed before the creation. No chicken before the egg.

The egg evolved before there were birds.

"It is generally known that the Indians believed in a cyclic universe. This idea is related to three other beliefs: (i), time is endless and space has infinite extension; (ii), earth is not the center of the universe; and (iii), laws govern all development, including the creation and destruction of the universe. It was believed that there are connections between the physical and the psychological worlds, and an equivalence existed between the outer cosmos and the inner cosmos of the individual.

Indian mythology obviously never heard of entropy, which would demonstrate those beliefs have no merit.

The original concept of trinity came from Hinduism. Brahma, Vishnu and Shiva. What is even more fascinating about Hinduism is the early recognition of consciousness which is drawing considerable attention in the field of Quantum Physics.

And yet, no such thing as quantum field theory had ever been conceived in Hinduism.

Ever wonder why we break coconut?

"In recent years physicists have had to address the interplay of consciousness and the physical world.

Physicists don't really have anything to do with neurosciences.

In Quantum Physics much has been made over Bell's Theorem. The implications of this theorem and the experimental findings that flow from it are staggering. They force us to consider that the entire notion of a purely objective world is in conflict not only with the theory of quantum mechanics, but with the facts drawn from actual experiments. These findings point insistently to a profound interaction between conscious mental activity and the physical world itself.

What experiments, exactly?

How Hinduism responds to Darwinism.
Sri Aurobindo wrote:"It is not what we descended from, but what we ascend to that feeds our human aspiration."

"Darwin and his followers were solely concerned with the evolution of physical forms and structures, whereas in the Hindu thought, it sees evolution from the standpoint of the atman (True Self). The Hindu view is, human beings are composed not just of one thing, matter, but of three things, stula (matter), manas (mind), and atman (spirit).

And yet, the "spirit" has never been shown to exist, hence the Hindu thought is more of an imaginary belief system not rooted in reality.

The atman is said to be shrouded by panchakosha (five sheaths) respectively. The first sheath is called the annamaya or one made of food, the next one pranamaya or made of breath, then the manomaya or made of mind, followed by vignyanamaya or discriminative intelligence and finally a sheath of eternal happiness, ananda or Bliss."

That sounds like gibberish. The latter five are quite understood and are not explained with the imaginary belief system of the spirit.

The beauty of Hinduism is captured in the practical essence of its beliefs.

The beauty of reality is not captured in beliefs, but instead, with an understanding of how things work through the scientific process.

You guys have redefined science. For you, materialism is science.

Materialism is an irrelevant term and not used in science.

People in west rediculed Hinduism for saying that there are seven horses for the chariot of sun god.

Today, you know about VIBGYOR.

This sequence of colours is there in our thousand of years old temples.

There were pinhole cameras in ancient temples.

Modern science is Not even the dirt under the fingernail of Vigyan.

You have read nothing but bull on internet.

Western scientists stole from Vedas shamelessly. I have the pictures.

I can crush your ego in seconds, I'm a good guy. I am still experimenting with DDO.

KNOWLEDGE WAS AN ART IN ANCIENT INDIA.

Russe, Hinduism is Not for small minds.

I'm sorry.

There goes that ADHD again.
Marrying a 6 year old and waiting until she reaches puberty and maturity before having consensual sex is better than walking up to
a stranger in a bar and proceeding to have relations with no valid proof of the intent of the person. Muhammad wins. ~ Fatihah
If they don't want to be killed then they have to subdue to the Islamic laws. - Uncung
Without God, you are lower than sh!t. ~ SpiritandTruth
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3/2/2016 3:13:08 PM
Posted: 9 months ago
At 3/2/2016 2:20:26 PM, DanneJeRusse wrote:
Indian mythology obviously never heard of entropy, which would demonstrate those beliefs have no merit.

So, Mythology can hear, oh yeah!
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3/2/2016 3:26:14 PM
Posted: 9 months ago
At 3/1/2016 7:09:41 PM, TREssspa wrote:
At 3/1/2016 6:30:50 PM, matt8800 wrote:
At 3/1/2016 5:49:15 PM, TREssspa wrote:
At 3/1/2016 5:43:33 PM, matt8800 wrote:
Everyone is familiar with the Christian story of creation. I think many people have heard it so many times, they have become desensitized on how ridiculous it sounds. To put things in perspective, I thought it would be interesting to put up some posts on some other equally insane stories of other religions.

Here is the Hindu version:

Rigveda (a god, of course) had being come into existence as a cosmic egg, hiranyagarbha (a golden egg). All things were made out of the mangled limbs of Purusha, a magnified non-natural man, who was sacrificed by the gods. In the Puranas, Vishnu, in the shape of a boar, plunged into the cosmic waters and brought forth the earth (Bhumi or Prithivi).

The Shatapatha Brahmana says that in the beginning, Prajapati, the first creator or father of all, was alone in the world. He differentiated himself into two beings, husband and wife. The wife, regarding union with her producer as incest, fled from his embraces assuming various animal disguises. The husband pursued in the form of the male of each animal, and from these unions sprang the various species of beasts (Shatapatha Brahmana, xiv. 4, 2). Prajapati was soon replaced with Brahma in the Puranas.

In the Puranas, Brahma the creator was joined in a divine triad with Vishnu and Maheshvara (Shiva), who were the preserver and destroyer, respectively. The universe was created by Brahma, preserved by Vishnu, and destroyed for the next creation by Shiva. However, the birth of Brahma was attributed to Vishnu in some myths. Brahma was often depicted as sitting on a lotus arising from the navel of Vishnu, who was resting on the cosmic serpent, Ananta (Shesha). In the very beginning Vishnu alone was there. When Vishnu thought about creation, Brahma was created from a lotus that came from his navel.

Hmmm...I don't know. After reading it, it sounds pretty plausible ;)

LOADED BULL !

matt8800 earlier claimed to have read BhagvadGita.

HE IS A LIER.

WE DO NOT WANT FOREIGNERS TO TEACH US 'HINDUISM'!

FUCK__OFF!

Whoa! No need to get so angry. Remember, we are in a religious section of a debate section so there are no "sacred cows" (pun intended).

Cows are Not sacred in Sanatan Dharm.

Gaus are sacred in Sanatan Dharm.

The Vedic Humped Gau gives A2 milk. Indian Gaus A2 milk is different than A2 milk obtained from other cows.

We in India make ghee, Not butter.

Ghee gets better with time. It lasts forever.

Aged Ghee has more medicinal properties. Ayurveda is more than 6000 years old.

The dung cakes of Vedic humped 'cows' have very special properties required in yagnas that produce nitric oxide.

The nadi in the hump of a Vedic cow is connected with sun.

THIS IS THE FIRST TIME IT IS BEING TOLD ON THIS PLANET.

VEDIC HUMPED COW URINE GIVES CELLULASE.

OOOPPPSSS ! Now immoral rogues are gonna patent it in their names .

BUT THIS IS RECORDED IN AYURVEDA 6200 YEARS AGO.

THIS IS THE FIRST TIME IT IS BEING TOLD ON THIS PLANET THAT HUMPED COW URINE WITH GOD GIVEN ENZYMES CAN SAVE YOU.

Cellulase helps breaks down cellulose into beta-glucose.

The cell wall of common intestinal yeast such as Candida species have been found to be made mainly from cellulose.

Cellulase is the enzyme that breaks down cellulose and hence, when significant concentrations come into contact with yeast cells the cell wall is irreparably damaged and the organism dies.

well, well what do you know..

http://ajitvadakayil.blogspot.com...

What does any of this have to do with the topic? Are you hiding the Hindu creation story? Where was the OP wrong?
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3/2/2016 3:29:38 PM
Posted: 9 months ago
At 3/2/2016 2:20:26 PM, DanneJeRusse wrote:
At 3/2/2016 2:02:40 PM, Harikrish wrote:
The Hindu story of creation is a complete story that bridges creation with evolution with its emphasis on the cycle of creation and destruction.

Except, for the fact that evolution, natural selection and diversity of species was never conceived in the Hindu creation story prior to Darwin and is essentially a creation story not much different than any other religion.

You are ignorant of the greatest intellectual and scientific/mathematics contributions made by Hindus to the world. Indians were living in planned cities and wearing manufactured textiles when Europeans were still running around wrapped in animal skins looting and plundering their neighbours.

Hinduisms view of evolution went beyond Darwin who was not aware of genetics, microbiology or advanced ancient civilizations. Darwin saw his resemblance to a primate and the low intelligence of European and concluded the common ancestors of Europeans were monkeys. Ironically,Asians believe in ancestor worship and yet Asians are known for eating monkey brains as a delicacy. Darwin would have been shocked to find Asians were inadvertently eating his European ancestors because they were unaware of Darwins European common ancestry theories.

But Hindus were more advanced in science and mathematics and showed extreme depth in their understanding of natural phenomena.

"Evolution
Physical " Conscious evolution

1. Matsya-avtar or Fish: Water borne life " amoebae or primeval evolution.
2. Kurmavtar or Turtle: Water/Land borne life " amphibians.
3. Varahavtar or Boar: Land borne life " mammals.
4. Narshinghavtar or Human-lion: Semi-human " primates.
5. Vamanavtar or Dwarf: Homo erectus " primitive human.
6. Parshuram or Divine Seeker: Homo sapiens " conscious human.
7. Ram or Perfect Human: Homo sapiens " God conscious human; outer awareness.
8. Krishna or Supreme Yogi: Homo sapiens " Self-conscious human; inner awareness.
9. Buddha or Consciousness: Homo sapiens " Self-Realization; inner enlightenment.
10. Kalki (Christ) or Spirit Being: Homo spiritus " God-Realization; Resurrection (en masse spiritual evolution.)

What is seen is the development of species right from the first signs of carbon life in the oceans billions of years ago to the present still evolving Homo sapiens. All these 10 incarnations of Shri Vishnu fit into the scientific chronology of the creation and evolution of the universe, but yet ahead of all modern meticulous minds as they also reveal the evolution of humans into spiritual beings and Afterlife in Spirit Worlds many light-years away from Earth. All humans"repeat: all humans"have taken countless rebirths spanning billions of years and reached this priceless human form, the highest evolved life in the eyes of the Universal Soul. The final metamorphosis or evolution is that into spiritual beings. The human species is now in the last stage of physical evolution"the Resurrection"to become the Spirit, the final goal of life that all Holy Scriptures expound and the only reason we are here."

It also answers the paradox of the chicken or the egg. In the Rigveda (10.121) the Hiranyagarbha (literally, golden embryo/womb/egg) that existed before the creation. No chicken before the egg.

The egg evolved before there were birds.

"It is generally known that the Indians believed in a cyclic universe. This idea is related to three other beliefs: (i), time is endless and space has infinite extension; (ii), earth is not the center of the universe; and (iii), laws govern all development, including the creation and destruction of the universe. It was believed that there are connections between the physical and the psychological worlds, and an equivalence existed between the outer cosmos and the inner cosmos of the individual.

Indian mythology obviously never heard of entropy, which would demonstrate those beliefs have no merit.

Tbe concept of entropy is covered by the age of Kali Yuga which introduces the age of chaos and disorder.

The original concept of trinity came from Hinduism. Brahma, Vishnu and Shiva. What is even more fascinating about Hinduism is the early recognition of consciousness which is drawing considerable attention in the field of Quantum Physics.

And yet, no such thing as quantum field theory had ever been conceived in Hinduism.


How scientists like Niels Bohr, Schrodinger, Nikola Tesla and Albert Einstein found the true meaning of Physics in Vedas.

"In recent years physicists have had to address the interplay of consciousness and the physical world.

Physicists don't really have anything to do with neurosciences.

You are not familiar with Quantum Theory.
Quantum Mechanics and the role FOR CONSCIOUSNESS IN THE PHYSICAL WORLDD
http://journals.sfu.ca...
http://www.newsgram.com...

In Quantum Physics much has been made over Bell's Theorem. The implications of this theorem and the experimental findings that flow from it are staggering. They force us to consider that the entire notion of a purely objective world is in conflict not only with the theory of quantum mechanics, but with the facts drawn from actual experiments. These findings point insistently to a profound interaction between conscious mental activity and the physical world itself.

What experiments, exactly?

How Hinduism responds to Darwinism.
Sri Aurobindo wrote:"It is not what we descended from, but what we ascend to that feeds our human aspiration."

"Darwin and his followers were solely concerned with the evolution of physical forms and structures, whereas in the Hindu thought, it sees evolution from the standpoint of the atman (True Self). The Hindu view is, human beings are composed not just of one thing, matter, but of three things, stula (matter), manas (mind), and atman (spirit).

And yet, the "spirit" has never been shown to exist, hence the Hindu thought is more of an imaginary belief system not rooted in reality.

The atman is said to be shrouded by panchakosha (five sheaths) respectively. The first sheath is called the annamaya or one made of food, the next one pranamaya or made of breath, then the manomaya or made of mind, followed by vignyanamaya or discriminative intelligence and finally a sheath of eternal happiness, ananda or Bliss."

That sounds like gibberish. The latter five are quite understood and are not explained with the imaginary belief system of the spirit.

The beauty of Hinduism is captured in the practical essence of its beliefs.

The beauty of reality is not captured in beliefs, but instead, with an understanding of how things work through the scientific process.

Quantum Physics came from the Vedas: Schr"dinger, Einstein and Tesla were all Vedantists.

http://www.krishnapath.org...
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3/2/2016 3:30:55 PM
Posted: 9 months ago
At 3/2/2016 2:20:26 PM, DanneJeRusse wrote:
And yet, no such thing as quantum field theory had ever been conceived in Hinduism.

He would Not believe me if I Do Not quote white man, right Russe?

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3/2/2016 3:43:52 PM
Posted: 9 months ago
At 3/2/2016 3:29:38 PM, Harikrish wrote:
At 3/2/2016 2:20:26 PM, DanneJeRusse wrote:
At 3/2/2016 2:02:40 PM, Harikrish wrote:
The Hindu story of creation is a complete story that bridges creation with evolution with its emphasis on the cycle of creation and destruction.

Except, for the fact that evolution, natural selection and diversity of species was never conceived in the Hindu creation story prior to Darwin and is essentially a creation story not much different than any other religion.

You are ignorant of the greatest intellectual and scientific/mathematics contributions made by Hindus to the world. Indians were living in planned cities and wearing manufactured textiles when Europeans were still running around wrapped in animal skins looting and plundering their neighbours.

Strawman.


Hinduisms view of evolution went beyond Darwin who was not aware of genetics, microbiology or advanced ancient civilizations.

No, it didn't, Hair, Hinduism was an always will be a belief system that has nothing to do with science.

Darwin saw his resemblance to a primate and the low intelligence of European and concluded the common ancestors of Europeans were monkeys. Ironically,Asians believe in ancestor worship and yet Asians are known for eating monkey brains as a delicacy. Darwin would have been shocked to find Asians were inadvertently eating his European ancestors because they were unaware of Darwins European common ancestry theories.

Hari's usually made up gibberish.

But Hindus were more advanced in science and mathematics and showed extreme depth in their understanding of natural phenomena.

No, they weren't Hari.

"Evolution
Physical " Conscious evolution

1. Matsya-avtar or Fish: Water borne life " amoebae or primeval evolution.
2. Kurmavtar or Turtle: Water/Land borne life " amphibians.
3. Varahavtar or Boar: Land borne life " mammals.
4. Narshinghavtar or Human-lion: Semi-human " primates.
5. Vamanavtar or Dwarf: Homo erectus " primitive human.
6. Parshuram or Divine Seeker: Homo sapiens " conscious human.
7. Ram or Perfect Human: Homo sapiens " God conscious human; outer awareness.
8. Krishna or Supreme Yogi: Homo sapiens " Self-conscious human; inner awareness.
9. Buddha or Consciousness: Homo sapiens " Self-Realization; inner enlightenment.
10. Kalki (Christ) or Spirit Being: Homo spiritus " God-Realization; Resurrection (en masse spiritual evolution.)

LOL. Sorry Hari, you're contrivance of myths to science is laughable.

What is seen is the development of species right from the first signs of carbon life in the oceans billions of years ago to the present still evolving Homo sapiens. All these 10 incarnations of Shri Vishnu fit into the scientific chronology of the creation and evolution of the universe, but yet ahead of all modern meticulous minds as they also reveal the evolution of humans into spiritual beings and Afterlife in Spirit Worlds many light-years away from Earth. All humans"repeat: all humans"have taken countless rebirths spanning billions of years and reached this priceless human form, the highest evolved life in the eyes of the Universal Soul. The final metamorphosis or evolution is that into spiritual beings. The human species is now in the last stage of physical evolution"the Resurrection"to become the Spirit, the final goal of life that all Holy Scriptures expound and the only reason we are here."

More made up gibberish from Hari.

It also answers the paradox of the chicken or the egg. In the Rigveda (10.121) the Hiranyagarbha (literally, golden embryo/womb/egg) that existed before the creation. No chicken before the egg.

The egg evolved before there were birds.

"It is generally known that the Indians believed in a cyclic universe. This idea is related to three other beliefs: (i), time is endless and space has infinite extension; (ii), earth is not the center of the universe; and (iii), laws govern all development, including the creation and destruction of the universe. It was believed that there are connections between the physical and the psychological worlds, and an equivalence existed between the outer cosmos and the inner cosmos of the individual.

Indian mythology obviously never heard of entropy, which would demonstrate those beliefs have no merit.

Tbe concept of entropy is covered by the age of Kali Yuga which introduces the age of chaos and disorder.

The original concept of trinity came from Hinduism. Brahma, Vishnu and Shiva. What is even more fascinating about Hinduism is the early recognition of consciousness which is drawing considerable attention in the field of Quantum Physics.

No, it isn't Hari. Hinduism has nothing to do with science.

And yet, no such thing as quantum field theory had ever been conceived in Hinduism.


How scientists like Niels Bohr, Schrodinger, Nikola Tesla and Albert Einstein found the true meaning of Physics in Vedas.

No, they didn't Hari.

"In recent years physicists have had to address the interplay of consciousness and the physical world.

Physicists don't really have anything to do with neurosciences.

You are not familiar with Quantum Theory.

Yes, I am, Hari, that is why it's so easy to see that your posts are full of bs.

Quantum Mechanics and the role FOR CONSCIOUSNESS IN THE PHYSICAL WORLDD
http://journals.sfu.ca...
http://www.newsgram.com...

Nothing but garbage in those links, Hari. I didn't expect anything less from you.

In Quantum Physics much has been made over Bell's Theorem. The implications of this theorem and the experimental findings that flow from it are staggering. They force us to consider that the entire notion of a purely objective world is in conflict not only with the theory of quantum mechanics, but with the facts drawn from actual experiments. These findings point insistently to a profound interaction between conscious mental activity and the physical world itself.

What experiments, exactly?

How Hinduism responds to Darwinism.
Sri Aurobindo wrote:"It is not what we descended from, but what we ascend to that feeds our human aspiration."

"Darwin and his followers were solely concerned with the evolution of physical forms and structures, whereas in the Hindu thought, it sees evolution from the standpoint of the atman (True Self). The Hindu view is, human beings are composed not just of one thing, matter, but of three things, stula (matter), manas (mind), and atman (spirit).

And yet, the "spirit" has never been shown to exist, hence the Hindu thought is more of an imaginary belief system not rooted in reality.

The atman is said to be shrouded by panchakosha (five sheaths) respectively. The first sheath is called the annamaya or one made of food, the next one pranamaya or made of breath, then the manomaya or made of mind, followed by vignyanamaya or discriminative intelligence and finally a sheath of eternal happiness, ananda or Bliss."

That sounds like gibberish. The latter five are quite understood and are not explained with the imaginary belief system of the spirit.

The beauty of Hinduism is captured in the practical essence of its beliefs.

The beauty of reality is not captured in beliefs, but instead, with an understanding of how things work through the scientific process.

Quantum Physics came from the Vedas: Schr"dinger, Einstein and Tesla were all Vedantists.

You are bald faced liar, Hari.

http://www.krishnapath.org...

More lies,
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a stranger in a bar and proceeding to have relations with no valid proof of the intent of the person. Muhammad wins. ~ Fatihah
If they don't want to be killed then they have to subdue to the Islamic laws. - Uncung
Without God, you are lower than sh!t. ~ SpiritandTruth
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At 3/2/2016 3:29:38 PM, Harikrish wrote:
At 3/2/2016 2:20:26 PM, DanneJeRusse wrote:
At 3/2/2016 2:02:40 PM, Harikrish wrote:
The Hindu story of creation is a complete story that bridges creation with evolution with its emphasis on the cycle of creation and destruction.

Except, for the fact that evolution, natural selection and diversity of species was never conceived in the Hindu creation story prior to Darwin and is essentially a creation story not much different than any other religion.

You are ignorant of the greatest intellectual and scientific/mathematics contributions made by Hindus to the world. Indians were living in planned cities and wearing manufactured textiles when Europeans were still running around wrapped in animal skins looting and plundering their neighbours.

Hinduisms view of evolution went beyond Darwin who was not aware of genetics, microbiology or advanced ancient civilizations. Darwin saw his resemblance to a primate and the low intelligence of European and concluded the common ancestors of Europeans were monkeys. Ironically,Asians believe in ancestor worship and yet Asians are known for eating monkey brains as a delicacy. Darwin would have been shocked to find Asians were inadvertently eating his European ancestors because they were unaware of Darwins European common ancestry theories.

But Hindus were more advanced in science and mathematics and showed extreme depth in their understanding of natural phenomena.

"Evolution
Physical " Conscious evolution

1. Matsya-avtar or Fish: Water borne life " amoebae or primeval evolution.
2. Kurmavtar or Turtle: Water/Land borne life " amphibians.
3. Varahavtar or Boar: Land borne life " mammals.
4. Narshinghavtar or Human-lion: Semi-human " primates.
5. Vamanavtar or Dwarf: Homo erectus " primitive human.
6. Parshuram or Divine Seeker: Homo sapiens " conscious human.
7. Ram or Perfect Human: Homo sapiens " God conscious human; outer awareness.
8. Krishna or Supreme Yogi: Homo sapiens " Self-conscious human; inner awareness.
9. Buddha or Consciousness: Homo sapiens " Self-Realization; inner enlightenment.
10. Kalki (Christ) or Spirit Being: Homo spiritus " God-Realization; Resurrection (en masse spiritual evolution.)

What is seen is the development of species right from the first signs of carbon life in the oceans billions of years ago to the present still evolving Homo sapiens. All these 10 incarnations of Shri Vishnu fit into the scientific chronology of the creation and evolution of the universe, but yet ahead of all modern meticulous minds as they also reveal the evolution of humans into spiritual beings and Afterlife in Spirit Worlds many light-years away from Earth. All humans"repeat: all humans"have taken countless rebirths spanning billions of years and reached this priceless human form, the highest evolved life in the eyes of the Universal Soul. The final metamorphosis or evolution is that into spiritual beings. The human species is now in the last stage of physical evolution"the Resurrection"to become the Spirit, the final goal of life that all Holy Scriptures expound and the only reason we are here."

It also answers the paradox of the chicken or the egg. In the Rigveda (10.121) the Hiranyagarbha (literally, golden embryo/womb/egg) that existed before the creation. No chicken before the egg.

The egg evolved before there were birds.

"It is generally known that the Indians believed in a cyclic universe. This idea is related to three other beliefs: (i), time is endless and space has infinite extension; (ii), earth is not the center of the universe; and (iii), laws govern all development, including the creation and destruction of the universe. It was believed that there are connections between the physical and the psychological worlds, and an equivalence existed between the outer cosmos and the inner cosmos of the individual.

Indian mythology obviously never heard of entropy, which would demonstrate those beliefs have no merit.

Tbe concept of entropy is covered by the age of Kali Yuga which introduces the age of chaos and disorder.

The original concept of trinity came from Hinduism. Brahma, Vishnu and Shiva. What is even more fascinating about Hinduism is the early recognition of consciousness which is drawing considerable attention in the field of Quantum Physics.

And yet, no such thing as quantum field theory had ever been conceived in Hinduism.


How scientists like Niels Bohr, Schrodinger, Nikola Tesla and Albert Einstein found the true meaning of Physics in Vedas.

"In recent years physicists have had to address the interplay of consciousness and the physical world.

Physicists don't really have anything to do with neurosciences.

You are not familiar with Quantum Theory.
Quantum Mechanics and the role FOR CONSCIOUSNESS IN THE PHYSICAL WORLDD
http://journals.sfu.ca...
http://www.newsgram.com...

In Quantum Physics much has been made over Bell's Theorem. The implications of this theorem and the experimental findings that flow from it are staggering. They force us to consider that the entire notion of a purely objective world is in conflict not only with the theory of quantum mechanics, but with the facts drawn from actual experiments. These findings point insistently to a profound interaction between conscious mental activity and the physical world itself.

What experiments, exactly?

How Hinduism responds to Darwinism.
Sri Aurobindo wrote:"It is not what we descended from, but what we ascend to that feeds our human aspiration."

"Darwin and his followers were solely concerned with the evolution of physical forms and structures, whereas in the Hindu thought, it sees evolution from the standpoint of the atman (True Self). The Hindu view is, human beings are composed not just of one thing, matter, but of three things, stula (matter), manas (mind), and atman (spirit).

And yet, the "spirit" has never been shown to exist, hence the Hindu thought is more of an imaginary belief system not rooted in reality.

The atman is said to be shrouded by panchakosha (five sheaths) respectively. The first sheath is called the annamaya or one made of food, the next one pranamaya or made of breath, then the manomaya or made of mind, followed by vignyanamaya or discriminative intelligence and finally a sheath of eternal happiness, ananda or Bliss."

That sounds like gibberish. The latter five are quite understood and are not explained with the imaginary belief system of the spirit.

The beauty of Hinduism is captured in the practical essence of its beliefs.

The beauty of reality is not captured in beliefs, but instead, with an understanding of how things work through the scientific process.

Quantum Physics came from the Vedas: Schr"dinger, Einstein and Tesla were all Vedantists.

http://www.krishnapath.org...

BUDDHA IS NOT AN AVATAR OF VISHNU. HE WAS A MORTAL WHO STRUGGLED FOR SALVATION. WHAT DO YOU WANT HARIKRISH? WHAT ARE YOUR INTENTIONS.
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3/2/2016 4:00:56 PM
Posted: 9 months ago
At 3/1/2016 6:06:10 PM, VirBinarus wrote:
At 3/1/2016 5:49:15 PM, TREssspa wrote:
At 3/1/2016 5:43:33 PM, matt8800 wrote:
Everyone is familiar with the Christian story of creation. I think many people have heard it so many times, they have become desensitized on how ridiculous it sounds. To put things in perspective, I thought it would be interesting to put up some posts on some other equally insane stories of other religions.

Here is the Hindu version:

Rigveda (a god, of course) had being come into existence as a cosmic egg, hiranyagarbha (a golden egg). All things were made out of the mangled limbs of Purusha, a magnified non-natural man, who was sacrificed by the gods. In the Puranas, Vishnu, in the shape of a boar, plunged into the cosmic waters and brought forth the earth (Bhumi or Prithivi).

The Shatapatha Brahmana says that in the beginning, Prajapati, the first creator or father of all, was alone in the world. He differentiated himself into two beings, husband and wife. The wife, regarding union with her producer as incest, fled from his embraces assuming various animal disguises. The husband pursued in the form of the male of each animal, and from these unions sprang the various species of beasts (Shatapatha Brahmana, xiv. 4, 2). Prajapati was soon replaced with Brahma in the Puranas.

In the Puranas, Brahma the creator was joined in a divine triad with Vishnu and Maheshvara (Shiva), who were the preserver and destroyer, respectively. The universe was created by Brahma, preserved by Vishnu, and destroyed for the next creation by Shiva. However, the birth of Brahma was attributed to Vishnu in some myths. Brahma was often depicted as sitting on a lotus arising from the navel of Vishnu, who was resting on the cosmic serpent, Ananta (Shesha). In the very beginning Vishnu alone was there. When Vishnu thought about creation, Brahma was created from a lotus that came from his navel.

Hmmm...I don't know. After reading it, it sounds pretty plausible ;)

LOADED BULL !

matt8800 earlier claimed to have read BhagvadGita.

HE IS A LIER.

WE DO NOT WANT FOREIGNERS TO TEACH US 'HINDUISM'!

FUCK__OFF!

TRE, This is most people in the western world's view of Hinduism. It is in your hands to correct us. Show us what it really is, or else the only thing we can spread about Hinduism is what we know from RS, ie, a list of Gods, and the creation story.

Please though, don't just discount people as "LIERS" and provide no reason why you say so. If you want to call someone a lier, justify your claim. And please don't use that kind of language in this forum. Not only does it offend some, but it also reflects very badly on yourself. It makes you seem like an ignorant idiot.

So, show us your wisdom TRE. Correct our misleadings on Hinduism, but don't just discount what people say without reason.

I apologize for my Hindu brother TREssspa for his strong use of English colloquial language. There are more polite ways to shoo away detractors. His contempt for ignorant posters is rather transparent and dismissive. He should at least follow it with his reasons. But if you are already offended by his dismissal, why would you feel better if he followed it with an explanation?

Hinduism has articulated it's views in creation and evolution. Unfortunately the Vedas were written in Sanskrit which limits readers from fully understanding and appreciating the revelations.

The Hindu story of creation is a complete story that bridges creation with evolution with its emphasis on the cycle of creation and destruction. It also answers the paradox of the chicken or the egg. In the Rigveda (10.121) the Hiranyagarbha (literally, golden embryo/womb/egg) that existed before the creation. No chicken before the egg.

"It is generally known that the Indians believed in a cyclic universe. This idea is related to three other beliefs: (i), time is endless and space has infinite extension; (ii), earth is not the center of the universe; and (iii), laws govern all development, including the creation and destruction of the universe. It was believed that there are connections between the physical and the psychological worlds, and an equivalence existed between the outer cosmos and the inner cosmos of the individual.

The original concept of trinity came from Hinduism. Brahma, Vishnu and Shiva. What is even more fascinating about Hinduism is the early recognition of consciousness which is drawing considerable attention in the field of Quantum Physics.

"In recent years physicists have had to address the interplay of consciousness and the physical world. In Quantum Physics much has been made over Bell's Theorem. The implications of this theorem and the experimental findings that flow from it are staggering. They force us to consider that the entire notion of a purely objective world is in conflict not only with the theory of quantum mechanics, but with the facts drawn from actual experiments. These findings point insistently to a profound interaction between conscious mental activity and the physical world itself.

How Hinduism responds to Darwinism.
Sri Aurobindo wrote:"It is not what we descended from, but what we ascend to that feeds our human aspiration."

"Darwin and his followers were solely concerned with the evolution of physical forms and structures, whereas in the Hindu thought, it sees evolution from the standpoint of the atman (True Self). The Hindu view is, human beings are composed not just of one thing, matter, but of three things, stula (matter), manas (mind), and atman (spirit). The atman is said to be shrouded by panchakosha (five sheaths) respectively. The first sheath is called the annamaya or one made of food, the next one pranamaya or made of breath, then the manomaya or made of mind, followed by vignyanamaya or discriminative intelligence and finally a sheath of eternal happiness, ananda or Bliss."

The beauty of Hinduism is captured in the practical essence of its beliefs.

Hindus were also very advanced in science and mathematics and showed extreme depth in their understanding of natural phenomena.

"Evolution
Physical " Conscious evolution

1. Matsya-avtar or Fish: Water borne life " amoebae or primeval evolution.
2. Kurmavtar or Turtle: Water/Land borne life " amphibians.
3. Varahavtar or Boar: Land borne life " mammals.
4. Narshinghavtar or Human-lion: Semi-human " primates.
5. Vamanavtar or Dwarf: Homo erectus " primitive human.
6. Parshuram or Divine Seeker: Homo sapiens " conscious human.
7. Ram or Perfect Human: Homo sapiens " God conscious human; outer awareness.
8. Krishna or Supreme Yogi: Homo sapiens " Self-conscious human; inner awareness.
9. Buddha or Consciousness: Homo sapiens " Self-Realization; inner enlightenment.
10. Kalki (Christ) or Spirit Being: Homo spiritus " God-Realization; Resurrection (en masse spiritual evolution.)

What is seen is the development of species right from the first signs of carbon life in the oceans billions of years ago to the present still evolving Homo sapiens. All these 10 incarnations of Shri Vishnu fit into the scientific chronology of the creation and evolution of the universe, but yet ahead of all modern meticulous minds as they also reveal the evolution of humans into spiritual beings and Afterlife in Spirit Worlds many light-years away from Earth. All humans"repeat: all humans"have taken countless rebirths spanning billions of years and reached this priceless human form, the highest evolved life in the eyes of the Universal Soul. The final metamorphosis or evolution is that into spiritual beings. The human species is now in the last stage of physical evolution"the Resurrection"to become the Spirit, the final goal of life that all Holy Scriptures expound and the only reason we are here."
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3/2/2016 4:11:53 PM
Posted: 9 months ago
At 3/2/2016 3:58:26 PM, TREssspa wrote:
At 3/2/2016 3:29:38 PM, Harikrish wrote:
At 3/2/2016 2:20:26 PM, DanneJeRusse wrote:
At 3/2/2016 2:02:40 PM, Harikrish wrote:
The Hindu story of creation is a complete story that bridges creation with evolution with its emphasis on the cycle of creation and destruction.

Except, for the fact that evolution, natural selection and diversity of species was never conceived in the Hindu creation story prior to Darwin and is essentially a creation story not much different than any other religion.

You are ignorant of the greatest intellectual and scientific/mathematics contributions made by Hindus to the world. Indians were living in planned cities and wearing manufactured textiles when Europeans were still running around wrapped in animal skins looting and plundering their neighbours.

Hinduisms view of evolution went beyond Darwin who was not aware of genetics, microbiology or advanced ancient civilizations. Darwin saw his resemblance to a primate and the low intelligence of European and concluded the common ancestors of Europeans were monkeys. Ironically,Asians believe in ancestor worship and yet Asians are known for eating monkey brains as a delicacy. Darwin would have been shocked to find Asians were inadvertently eating his European ancestors because they were unaware of Darwins European common ancestry theories.

But Hindus were more advanced in science and mathematics and showed extreme depth in their understanding of natural phenomena.

"Evolution
Physical " Conscious evolution

1. Matsya-avtar or Fish: Water borne life " amoebae or primeval evolution.
2. Kurmavtar or Turtle: Water/Land borne life " amphibians.
3. Varahavtar or Boar: Land borne life " mammals.
4. Narshinghavtar or Human-lion: Semi-human " primates.
5. Vamanavtar or Dwarf: Homo erectus " primitive human.
6. Parshuram or Divine Seeker: Homo sapiens " conscious human.
7. Ram or Perfect Human: Homo sapiens " God conscious human; outer awareness.
8. Krishna or Supreme Yogi: Homo sapiens " Self-conscious human; inner awareness.
9. Buddha or Consciousness: Homo sapiens " Self-Realization; inner enlightenment.
10. Kalki (Christ) or Spirit Being: Homo spiritus " God-Realization; Resurrection (en masse spiritual evolution.)

What is seen is the development of species right from the first signs of carbon life in the oceans billions of years ago to the present still evolving Homo sapiens. All these 10 incarnations of Shri Vishnu fit into the scientific chronology of the creation and evolution of the universe, but yet ahead of all modern meticulous minds as they also reveal the evolution of humans into spiritual beings and Afterlife in Spirit Worlds many light-years away from Earth. All humans"repeat: all humans"have taken countless rebirths spanning billions of years and reached this priceless human form, the highest evolved life in the eyes of the Universal Soul. The final metamorphosis or evolution is that into spiritual beings. The human species is now in the last stage of physical evolution"the Resurrection"to become the Spirit, the final goal of life that all Holy Scriptures expound and the only reason we are here."

It also answers the paradox of the chicken or the egg. In the Rigveda (10.121) the Hiranyagarbha (literally, golden embryo/womb/egg) that existed before the creation. No chicken before the egg.

The egg evolved before there were birds.

"It is generally known that the Indians believed in a cyclic universe. This idea is related to three other beliefs: (i), time is endless and space has infinite extension; (ii), earth is not the center of the universe; and (iii), laws govern all development, including the creation and destruction of the universe. It was believed that there are connections between the physical and the psychological worlds, and an equivalence existed between the outer cosmos and the inner cosmos of the individual.

Indian mythology obviously never heard of entropy, which would demonstrate those beliefs have no merit.

Tbe concept of entropy is covered by the age of Kali Yuga which introduces the age of chaos and disorder.

The original concept of trinity came from Hinduism. Brahma, Vishnu and Shiva. What is even more fascinating about Hinduism is the early recognition of consciousness which is drawing considerable attention in the field of Quantum Physics.

And yet, no such thing as quantum field theory had ever been conceived in Hinduism.


How scientists like Niels Bohr, Schrodinger, Nikola Tesla and Albert Einstein found the true meaning of Physics in Vedas.

"In recent years physicists have had to address the interplay of consciousness and the physical world.

Physicists don't really have anything to do with neurosciences.

You are not familiar with Quantum Theory.
Quantum Mechanics and the role FOR CONSCIOUSNESS IN THE PHYSICAL WORLDD
http://journals.sfu.ca...
http://www.newsgram.com...

In Quantum Physics much has been made over Bell's Theorem. The implications of this theorem and the experimental findings that flow from it are staggering. They force us to consider that the entire notion of a purely objective world is in conflict not only with the theory of quantum mechanics, but with the facts drawn from actual experiments. These findings point insistently to a profound interaction between conscious mental activity and the physical world itself.

What experiments, exactly?

How Hinduism responds to Darwinism.
Sri Aurobindo wrote:"It is not what we descended from, but what we ascend to that feeds our human aspiration."

"Darwin and his followers were solely concerned with the evolution of physical forms and structures, whereas in the Hindu thought, it sees evolution from the standpoint of the atman (True Self). The Hindu view is, human beings are composed not just of one thing, matter, but of three things, stula (matter), manas (mind), and atman (spirit).

And yet, the "spirit" has never been shown to exist, hence the Hindu thought is more of an imaginary belief system not rooted in reality.

The atman is said to be shrouded by panchakosha (five sheaths) respectively. The first sheath is called the annamaya or one made of food, the next one pranamaya or made of breath, then the manomaya or made of mind, followed by vignyanamaya or discriminative intelligence and finally a sheath of eternal happiness, ananda or Bliss."

That sounds like gibberish. The latter five are quite understood and are not explained with the imaginary belief system of the spirit.

The beauty of Hinduism is captured in the practical essence of its beliefs.

The beauty of reality is not captured in beliefs, but instead, with an understanding of how things work through the scientific process.

Quantum Physics came from the Vedas: Schr"dinger, Einstein and Tesla were all Vedantists.

http://www.krishnapath.org...

BUDDHA IS NOT AN AVATAR OF VISHNU. HE WAS A MORTAL WHO STRUGGLED FOR SALVATION. WHAT DO YOU WANT HARIKRISH? WHAT ARE YOUR INTENTIONS.

Where did I say Buddha was an Avatar of Vishnu? I said the trinity in Hinduism included Brahma, Vishnu and Shiva. If you read my posts my intentions should be clear to you. Hindus are underrepresented on religious forums. You now have a platform to change that.
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3/2/2016 4:14:27 PM
Posted: 9 months ago
At 3/2/2016 3:29:38 PM, Harikrish wrote:
At 3/2/2016 2:20:26 PM, DanneJeRusse wrote:
At 3/2/2016 2:02:40 PM, Harikrish wrote:
The Hindu story of creation is a complete story that bridges creation with evolution with its emphasis on the cycle of creation and destruction.

Except, for the fact that evolution, natural selection and diversity of species was never conceived in the Hindu creation story prior to Darwin and is essentially a creation story not much different than any other religion.

You are ignorant of the greatest intellectual and scientific/mathematics contributions made by Hindus to the world. Indians were living in planned cities and wearing manufactured textiles when Europeans were still running around wrapped in animal skins looting and plundering their neighbours.

Hinduisms view of evolution went beyond Darwin who was not aware of genetics, microbiology or advanced ancient civilizations. Darwin saw his resemblance to a primate and the low intelligence of European and concluded the common ancestors of Europeans were monkeys. Ironically,Asians believe in ancestor worship and yet Asians are known for eating monkey brains as a delicacy. Darwin would have been shocked to find Asians were inadvertently eating his European ancestors because they were unaware of Darwins European common ancestry theories.

But Hindus were more advanced in science and mathematics and showed extreme depth in their understanding of natural phenomena.

"Evolution
Physical " Conscious evolution

1. Matsya-avtar or Fish: Water borne life " amoebae or primeval evolution.
2. Kurmavtar or Turtle: Water/Land borne life " amphibians.
3. Varahavtar or Boar: Land borne life " mammals.
4. Narshinghavtar or Human-lion: Semi-human " primates.
5. Vamanavtar or Dwarf: Homo erectus " primitive human.
6. Parshuram or Divine Seeker: Homo sapiens " conscious human.
7. Ram or Perfect Human: Homo sapiens " God conscious human; outer awareness.
8. Krishna or Supreme Yogi: Homo sapiens " Self-conscious human; inner awareness.
9. Buddha or Consciousness: Homo sapiens " Self-Realization; inner enlightenment.
10. Kalki (Christ) or Spirit Being: Homo spiritus " God-Realization; Resurrection (en masse spiritual evolution.)

What is seen is the development of species right from the first signs of carbon life in the oceans billions of years ago to the present still evolving Homo sapiens. All these 10 incarnations of Shri Vishnu fit into the scientific chronology of the creation and evolution of the universe, but yet ahead of all modern meticulous minds as they also reveal the evolution of humans into spiritual beings and Afterlife in Spirit Worlds many light-years away from Earth. All humans"repeat: all humans"have taken countless rebirths spanning billions of years and reached this priceless human form, the highest evolved life in the eyes of the Universal Soul. The final metamorphosis or evolution is that into spiritual beings. The human species is now in the last stage of physical evolution"the Resurrection"to become the Spirit, the final goal of life that all Holy Scriptures expound and the only reason we are here."

The whole reason I posted this topic is because you gave the ex-Muslim a bunch of sh1t for leaving Islam because he believed evolution is true. http://www.debate.org...

Religious people love to say how ignorant people are for believing in evolution yet they don't want anyone to scrutinize their weird childish fairy tales that no adult should believe in.

Rather than throwing rocks at evolution, people should compare their own creation stories next to evolution and see which ones actually have evidence and don't depend on unverifiable magic.

Rather than solely debating whether evolution is true, I like to debate that evolution is a more reasonable theory than a specific religious creation theory. That is when it gets most interesting.