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Kilk1
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3/15/2016 4:06:01 PM
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Hello. Does anyone know really good debaters in favor of God's existence, who have won multiple debates on the topic? Thanks!
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3/15/2016 4:18:43 PM
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I don"t know, most here take pleasure in bashing believers so this may not be the best place to find such. You might try arguing against belief in God or at the lest present your question if you have any.

Also in the case of the God of Israel, He proves men, men don't prove Lord God. for ensample Moses couldn't prove swat to no one, unless the Lord showed His power is with Moses.
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3/15/2016 4:24:50 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 3/15/2016 4:18:43 PM, DPMartin wrote:
I don"t know, most here take pleasure in bashing believers so this may not be the best place to find such. You might try arguing against belief in God or at the lest present your question if you have any.

Also in the case of the God of Israel, He proves men, men don't prove Lord God. for ensample Moses couldn't prove swat to no one, unless the Lord showed His power is with Moses.

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Also in the case of the God of Israel, He proves men, men don't prove Lord God. For example, Moses couldn't prove squat to no one, unless the Lord showed His power is with Moses.
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3/15/2016 4:28:21 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 3/15/2016 4:06:01 PM, Kilk1 wrote:
Hello. Does anyone know really good debaters in favor of God's existence, who have won multiple debates on the topic? Thanks!

Probably William Lane Craig is the most well known advocate for the existence of God. Others users might be able to point to less known philosophers who make better arguments.
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3/15/2016 4:32:59 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 3/15/2016 4:28:21 PM, Skepticalone wrote:
At 3/15/2016 4:06:01 PM, Kilk1 wrote:
Hello. Does anyone know really good debaters in favor of God's existence, who have won multiple debates on the topic? Thanks!

Probably William Lane Craig is the most well known advocate for the existence of God. Others users might be able to point to less known philosophers who make better arguments.

Thank you. Sorry, I may not have been very clear. I'm referring to DDO users who are good at debates of this topic.
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3/15/2016 4:34:50 PM
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I'm looking for advisers for my upcoming debate in favor of God's existence, if that helps give more information.
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3/15/2016 4:38:07 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
I've won all but one of my debates on the existence of God whether I was arguing for or against. Here's the one debate I lost:

http://www.debate.org...

It seems like all the really good theist debaters have left the site--people like Apeiron, InquireTruth, and a few others.
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3/15/2016 4:41:39 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 3/15/2016 4:32:59 PM, Kilk1 wrote:
At 3/15/2016 4:28:21 PM, Skepticalone wrote:
At 3/15/2016 4:06:01 PM, Kilk1 wrote:
Hello. Does anyone know really good debaters in favor of God's existence, who have won multiple debates on the topic? Thanks!

Probably William Lane Craig is the most well known advocate for the existence of God. Others users might be able to point to less known philosophers who make better arguments.

Thank you. Sorry, I may not have been very clear. I'm referring to DDO users who are good at debates of this topic.

OIC. I don't know the answer to that question.
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Kilk1
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3/15/2016 5:10:38 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 3/15/2016 4:38:07 PM, philochristos wrote:
I've won all but one of my debates on the existence of God whether I was arguing for or against. Here's the one debate I lost:

http://www.debate.org...

It seems like all the really good theist debaters have left the site--people like Apeiron, InquireTruth, and a few others.

Hey, you look like the kind of person I was looking for. Would you be willing to serve as one of my two advisers?
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3/15/2016 5:13:02 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 3/15/2016 4:34:50 PM, Kilk1 wrote:
I'm looking for advisers for my upcoming debate in favor of God's existence, if that helps give more information.

Then what proves God's existence?
Kilk1
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3/15/2016 5:15:33 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 3/15/2016 5:13:02 PM, DPMartin wrote:
At 3/15/2016 4:34:50 PM, Kilk1 wrote:
I'm looking for advisers for my upcoming debate in favor of God's existence, if that helps give more information.

Then what proves God's existence?

I believe God's existence is much more reasonable than naturalism. To know why, add my profile to your list of favorites, and you can read the debate. It should be starting this week.
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3/15/2016 5:55:21 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 3/15/2016 5:10:38 PM, Kilk1 wrote:
At 3/15/2016 4:38:07 PM, philochristos wrote:
I've won all but one of my debates on the existence of God whether I was arguing for or against. Here's the one debate I lost:

http://www.debate.org...

It seems like all the really good theist debaters have left the site--people like Apeiron, InquireTruth, and a few others.

Hey, you look like the kind of person I was looking for. Would you be willing to serve as one of my two advisers?

I guess that depends on how much you want from me. I'd be willing to proof read your posts if you want and maybe offer suggestions, but that's about all I'll have time for. You might as Thett. He's a pretty smart guy.

http://www.debate.org...

Also, Donald Keller might be able to help you.

http://www.debate.org...

Nur-Ab-Sal could definitely help you. The only problem with him is that he hasn't been around in a while. Look at some of his debates, though. Brilliant guy.

http://www.debate.org...
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3/15/2016 5:55:46 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 3/15/2016 4:06:01 PM, Kilk1 wrote:
Hello. Does anyone know really good debaters in favor of God's existence, who have won multiple debates on the topic? Thanks!

Are you looking for folks who have best spin doctored the usual tired-old-refuted arguments for gods existence or are you looking for folks with new spins on the usual tired-old-refuted arguments?
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philochristos
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3/15/2016 5:56:55 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
Geogeer might be able to help you, too.

http://www.debate.org...
"Not to know of what things one should demand demonstration, and of what one should not, argues want of education." ~Aristotle

"It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it." ~Aristotle
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3/15/2016 6:38:22 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 3/15/2016 4:34:50 PM, Kilk1 wrote:
I'm looking for advisers for my upcoming debate in favor of God's existence, if that helps give more information.

Best advice.
Concede.
Religion is just mind control. George Carlin
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3/15/2016 7:59:32 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 3/15/2016 6:38:22 PM, bulproof wrote:
At 3/15/2016 4:34:50 PM, Kilk1 wrote:
I'm looking for advisers for my upcoming debate in favor of God's existence, if that helps give more information.

Best advice.
Concede.

Still in denial eh bull? Still in denial. As the prophecies stroll on by. Must be magic. Let's go with magic. You're running out of time bull.Running out of time.

You'll meet God and say,"Hey, no one ever told me! No one offered proof!" And God will say,"I sent you bronto. You ignored bronto. You scoffed at bronto."

The end.
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3/15/2016 8:43:55 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 3/15/2016 4:06:01 PM, Kilk1 wrote:
Hello. Does anyone know really good debaters in favor of God's existence, who have won multiple debates on the topic? Thanks!

You can look on my profile if you want and see what you think. I tend to take on tougher debates to expand my mind and challenge myself.
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3/15/2016 8:55:10 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 3/15/2016 7:59:32 PM, brontoraptor wrote:

Still in denial eh bull? Still in denial. As the prophecies stroll on by. Must be magic. Let's go with magic. You're running out of time bull.Running out of time.

What prophecies are you referring to?
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3/15/2016 9:05:25 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 3/15/2016 8:55:10 PM, Bennett91 wrote:
At 3/15/2016 7:59:32 PM, brontoraptor wrote:

Still in denial eh bull? Still in denial. As the prophecies stroll on by. Must be magic. Let's go with magic. You're running out of time bull.Running out of time.

What prophecies are you referring to?

Here's a snippet below.
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3/15/2016 9:05:49 PM
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"I saw thrones on which were seated those who had been given authority to judge. And I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded because of their testimony about Jesus and because of the word of God."
(Revelation 20:4)

"ISIS declares war on the cross, beheading Christians"

http://www.ijreview.com...

What/who is antichrist?

"Who is the liar? It is whoever denies that Jesus is the Christ. Such a person is the antichrist--denying the Father and the Son."
(1 John 2:22)

So Denying the "Son" is antichrist.

The Quran says Jesus is not the Son of God word for word.

http://youtu.be...

"They marched across the breadth of the earth and surrounded the camp of God's people, the city he loves. But fire came down from heaven and devoured them."
(Revelation 20:9)

Who would march on Jerusalem/Israel? Here's who.

http://youtu.be...

"And the devil, who deceived them, was thrown into the lake of burning sulfur, where the beast and the FALSE PROPHET had been thrown."
(Revelation 20:10)

False prophet that denounces Christ? Here's one, and he is infallable.

Aaah...the shahada, the testimony of faith. Who is the "Great prophet"? Muhammed of course. He is so infallable that he cannot be depicted. He thought he got his revelation(The Quran) from a demon. He was accused of demon posession as a child.

http://youtu.be...

"The second beast was given power to give breath to the image of the first beast, so that the IMAGE could speak and cause all who refused to worship the image to be killed."
(Revelation 13:15)

Who bows to an image? Here's who.

http://youtu.be...

"Then the angel said to me, "The waters you saw, where the prostitute sits, are peoples, multitudes, nations and languages."
(Revelation 17:15)

The beast and the ten horns you saw will hate the prostitute. They will bring her to ruin and leave her naked; they will eat her flesh and burn her with fire."
(Revelation 17:16)

Who? What? Here's an ex Muslim's take.

http://youtu.be...

http://youtu.be...

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"They will wage war against the Lamb, but the Lamb will triumph over them because he is Lord of lords and King of kings--and with him will be his called, chosen and faithful followers."
(Revelation 17:14)

THEY will wage war against Christ. Who wages war on Christ?

http://youtu.be...

"He will speak against the Most High and oppress his holy people and try to --change the set times and the laws. --The holy people will be delivered into his hands for a time, times and half a time."

Change the set times and laws? Who does this?

http://youtu.be...

He will cause deceit to prosper, and he will consider himself superior. -----When they feel secure, he will destroy-- many and take his stand against the Prince of princes. Yet he will be destroyed, but not by human power.

By peace will destroy many?

Here's a nice piece stating Islam is peace. Sounds convincing

http://youtu.be...

But it's a lie meant to decieve you.
Here are four concepts in Islam for deceiving and destroying NonMuslims. Ayaan Hirsi Ali, ex Muslim states Islam is not peace and disguises itself to infiltrate the enemy. She then goes on to say Islam is like a shape shifting camillion that blends in as it needs to. It's espionage from within.

http://www.islam-watch.org...

Obama tells us Islam is peace.

http://youtu.be...

Hillary Clinton tells us Islam is peace and tolerance.

http://youtu.be...

It is? Hmmm...let's check it out.

"Islam is not a religion of peace. It's a political theory of conquest that seeks domination by any means it can."
-Ayaan Hirsi Ali, ex Muslim

"In Saudi Arabia, everything bad was the fault of the Jews. When the air conditioner broke or suddenly the tap stopped running, the Saudi women next door used to say the Jews did it. The children next door were taught to pray for the health of their parents and the destruction of the Jews."
-Ayaan Hirsi Ali, ex Muslim

"In reality, these Westerners are the ones who misunderstand Islam. The Quran mandates these punishments. It gives a legitimate basis for abuse, so that the perpetrators feel no shame and are not hounded by their conscience."
-Ayaan Hirsi Ali

Walid Shoebat, ex Muslim tells us we have been infiltrated with moles like the Quran commands, and they are striking from the inside. They are using freedom to destroy freedom.

http://m.therightscoop.com...

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Adolph Hitler and the Grand Mufti of Islam

http://youtu.be...

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Isaiah 17:1

"This message came to me concerning Damascus: 'Look, Damascus will fall! It will become a heap of ruins."

"Damascus has been leveled"

http://youtu.be...
"What Donald Trump is doing is representing the absolute heartbreak, and anger, and frustration at a government gone mad."

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3/15/2016 9:11:06 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
I guess that depends on how much you want from me. I'd be willing to proof read your posts if you want and maybe offer suggestions, but that's about all I'll have time for.

I would like someone mainly to help me debunk the opponent's argument against the existence of God. Would that be okay, or would that be a little too much effort?

Also, Donald Keller might be able to help you.

Actually, I'm in the process of asking him to be my other adviser. It looks like we're thinking alike!
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3/15/2016 9:17:01 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 3/15/2016 7:59:32 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
You'll meet God and say,"Hey, no one ever told me! No one offered proof!" And God will say,"I sent you bronto. You ignored bronto. You scoffed at bronto."

And Bulproof will say: "Aw c'mon! You sent me Bronto!"

And God will say "I know, right? You can only love atheists so much."
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3/15/2016 9:30:18 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 3/15/2016 9:17:01 PM, RuvDraba wrote:
At 3/15/2016 7:59:32 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
You'll meet God and say,"Hey, no one ever told me! No one offered proof!" And God will say,"I sent you bronto. You ignored bronto. You scoffed at bronto."

And Bulproof will say: "Aw c'mon! You sent me Bronto!"

And God will say "I know, right? You can only love atheists so much."

It won't matter. Bronto told bull and Ruv. But neither wanted proof, evidence, logic, just denial. They didn't wamt Him to exidt. Proof had nothing to do with it, right Ruv?
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3/15/2016 9:31:11 PM
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Exist*
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3/15/2016 9:37:17 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 3/15/2016 4:06:01 PM, Kilk1 wrote:
Hello. Does anyone know really good debaters in favor of God's existence, who have won multiple debates on the topic? Thanks!

Former Christian, but would be willing to look over your arguments fairly and respectfully to provide some tips if you're desperate.
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3/15/2016 9:37:20 PM
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At 3/15/2016 9:30:18 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
Bronto told bull and Ruv. But neither wanted proof, evidence, logic, just denial.
Bronto, I definitely want you to use reason and evidence in all your life.

But that's not for my sake. It's for yours and the sake of those who love and depend on you.

Regarding my beliefs, as I don't recognise your authority to tell me how the world works, you needn't concern yourself about them. :)
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3/15/2016 9:43:32 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 3/15/2016 9:37:20 PM, RuvDraba wrote:
At 3/15/2016 9:30:18 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
Bronto told bull and Ruv. But neither wanted proof, evidence, logic, just denial.
Bronto, I definitely want you to use reason and evidence in all your life.

But that's not for my sake. It's for yours and the sake of those who love and depend on you.

Regarding my beliefs, as I don't recognise your authority to tell me how the world works, you needn't concern yourself about them. :)

I'm just offering you water such as that you never thirst again, can wink at death, and live happily and eternally. Besides the prophecies are coming yrue so fast , you may be running out of time...
"What Donald Trump is doing is representing the absolute heartbreak, and anger, and frustration at a government gone mad."

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3/15/2016 9:49:48 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 3/15/2016 9:43:32 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 3/15/2016 9:37:20 PM, RuvDraba wrote:
At 3/15/2016 9:30:18 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
Bronto told bull and Ruv. But neither wanted proof, evidence, logic, just denial.
Bronto, I definitely want you to use reason and evidence in all your life.

But that's not for my sake. It's for yours and the sake of those who love and depend on you.

Regarding my beliefs, as I don't recognise your authority to tell me how the world works, you needn't concern yourself about them. :)

Pie in the sky, by and by, that's all you're offering. It's as bad as any other fairy tale.
.

I'm just offering you water such as that you never thirst again, can wink at death, and live happily and eternally. Besides the prophecies are coming yrue so fast , you may be running out of time...
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3/15/2016 9:50:19 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 3/15/2016 9:37:20 PM, RuvDraba wrote:
At 3/15/2016 9:30:18 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
Bronto told bull and Ruv. But neither wanted proof, evidence, logic, just denial.
Bronto, I definitely want you to use reason and evidence in all your life.

But that's not for my sake. It's for yours and the sake of those who love and depend on you.

Regarding my beliefs, as I don't recognise your authority to tell me how the world works, you needn't concern yourself about them. :)

Logic and reason are telling me that Atheism offers me no eternal life or existance with my loved ones and God eternally. It offers me uncertainty and the expectation of nothing or posdibly a negative eternal existance.

Logic tells me the prophecies told us many things concerning the end days. Such as Christians being beheaded, Damascus being leveled, and an assault on our religion by a religion worshipping an unknown god of that time lead by an infallable prophet who claims Jesus is not the Christ and rises a formiddable religious force from Ishmael to rival Christianity. This group must bow to an image and hate Jews. And that's just the tip of the iceberg...
"What Donald Trump is doing is representing the absolute heartbreak, and anger, and frustration at a government gone mad."

http://youtu.be...
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3/15/2016 9:59:08 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 3/15/2016 9:49:48 PM, dhardage wrote:
At 3/15/2016 9:43:32 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 3/15/2016 9:37:20 PM, RuvDraba wrote:
At 3/15/2016 9:30:18 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
Bronto told bull and Ruv. But neither wanted proof, evidence, logic, just denial.
Bronto, I definitely want you to use reason and evidence in all your life.

But that's not for my sake. It's for yours and the sake of those who love and depend on you.

Regarding my beliefs, as I don't recognise your authority to tell me how the world works, you needn't concern yourself about them. :)

Pie in the sky, by and by, that's all you're offering. It's as bad as any other fairy tale.
.

I'm just offering you water such as that you never thirst again, can wink at death, and live happily and eternally. Besides the prophecies are coming yrue so fast , you may be running out of time...

You are ignoring the prophecies. Christians must be being beheaded. They are. Damascus must become rubble. It has. There must be anenormous group that hates Jews and Christians. There is. ANd much more. You don't want proof do you dhardage? It's not even about proof. You want God to not exist, but He does, and it scares you. This is why you scoff at prophecy. You want God dead in your mind, in your heart, and in your subcoscious, deep beliefs. You want Him to disappear. Right dhardage?
"What Donald Trump is doing is representing the absolute heartbreak, and anger, and frustration at a government gone mad."

http://youtu.be...