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bulproof
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3/16/2016 5:11:16 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
Some questions for christianity.

Is Jesus god?
Do the righteous go to heaven?
Is heaven a reward for believing in the god of the bible?
Did god create the universe in six days?
Did god create plants before he created the sun?
Did god create a talking serpent?
Religion is just mind control. George Carlin
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3/16/2016 5:26:53 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 3/16/2016 5:11:16 PM, bulproof wrote:
Some questions for christianity.

Is Jesus god?
Do the righteous go to heaven?
Is heaven a reward for believing in the god of the bible?
Did god create the universe in six days?
Did god create plants before he created the sun?
Did god create a talking serpent? : :

Christianity can't answer any questions unless their gods give them answers. Just don't trust their gods for the correct answers.
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3/16/2016 9:40:18 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 3/16/2016 5:11:16 PM, bulproof wrote:
Is Jesus god?

According to the Bible, only one true God exists and He is greater than Jesus. So I think Jesus is not the one and only true God.

"Father is greater than I.
John 14:28

This is eternal life, that they should know you, the only true God, and him whom you sent, Jesus Christ.
John 17:3

Do the righteous go to heaven?

I believe so, because:

These will go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous into eternal life.
Mat. 25:46

For I tell you that unless your righteousness exceeds that of the scribes and Pharisees, there is no way you will enter into the Kingdom of Heaven.
Mat. 5:20

Is heaven a reward for believing in the god of the bible?

Heaven is for righteous. If person is not righteous, belief doesn"t help much.

Not everyone who says to me, 'Lord, Lord,' will enter into the Kingdom of Heaven; but he who does the will of my Father who is in heaven.
Matt. 7:21

Did god create the universe in six days?

I believe so, however I don"t know how long days those were.

Did god create plants before he created the sun?

I believe what the Bible tells.

Did god create a talking serpent?

I believe what the Bible tells.
bulproof
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3/17/2016 2:02:42 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
C'mon godbotherers.
Are the questions to hard or are your answers just to embarrassing?
Religion is just mind control. George Carlin
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3/17/2016 2:35:58 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 3/16/2016 5:11:16 PM, bulproof wrote:
Some questions for christianity.

Is Jesus god?

No.

Do the righteous go to heaven?

Some do. 144, 000.

Is heaven a reward for believing in the god of the bible?

No.

Did god create the universe in six days?

No.

Did god create plants before he created the sun?

No.

Did god create a talking serpent?

No.
"Seek freedom and become captive of your desires. Seek discipline and find your liberty." - Frank Herbert, Chapterhouse: Dune
bulproof
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3/17/2016 4:45:53 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 3/17/2016 2:35:58 PM, DavidHenson wrote:
At 3/16/2016 5:11:16 PM, bulproof wrote:
Some questions for christianity.

Is Jesus god?

No.
That's not the christian viewpoint.
Do the righteous go to heaven?

Some do. 144, 000.
But they are all Jews, why are there no christians go to heaven?
Is heaven a reward for believing in the god of the bible?

No.
The bible disagrees with your view.
Did god create the universe in six days?

No.
The bible disagrees with your view.
Did god create plants before he created the sun?

No.
So you disagree with the bible again?
Did god create a talking serpent?

No.
Who did?
So you've thrown the bible away and written one that you want to believe?
Religion is just mind control. George Carlin
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3/17/2016 5:14:26 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 3/17/2016 4:45:53 PM, bulproof wrote:
That's not the christian viewpoint.

So?

But they are all Jews, why are there no christians go to heaven?

They are not Jews, they are spiritual Israel.

The bible disagrees with your view.

No it doesn't.

The bible disagrees with your view.

No it doesn't.

So you disagree with the bible again?

No.

Who did?

No one.

So you've thrown the bible away and written one that you want to believe?

Wrong again, Buster.
"Seek freedom and become captive of your desires. Seek discipline and find your liberty." - Frank Herbert, Chapterhouse: Dune
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3/17/2016 5:27:02 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 3/17/2016 4:45:53 PM, bulproof wrote:
So you've thrown the bible away and written one that you want to believe?

Lol.

"You shall INDEED sleep with man as man sleeps with woman, it is VERY NICE TO DO."

"If a man lies with a male as with a woman, both of them have committed A DAMN NICE TIME; they shall surely be put to HEAVEN; their blood is REEEEEEEEEEEEED."
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3/17/2016 6:39:56 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 3/16/2016 5:11:16 PM, bulproof wrote:
Some questions for christianity.

Is Jesus god?
Do the righteous go to heaven?
Is heaven a reward for believing in the god of the bible?
Did god create the universe in six days?
Did god create plants before he created the sun?
Did god create a talking serpent?

According to Christianity:
1. Yes, Jesus and God are considered to be the same person.
2. Heaven is a reward for believing ON the God of the bible, as well as his son. According to Christianity Lucifer (Satan) believes IN God, he knows he exists, but he defied and rejected him, and therefore will not be in heaven.
3. The six days question is one each Christian must answer for his/herself. There are many interpretations of the first verses of Genesis, but it is widely accepted that yes, he did create the universe in six days.
4. If you follow Genesis in a truly chronological order, then yes, He did create plants before the sun. Christians would argue that God himself is light, however, and he could provide energy for photosynthesis.
5. Many Christians believe that the serpent mentioned in Genesis is Satan presenting himself as a snake to Eve. So, no.
bamiller43
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3/17/2016 6:44:18 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 3/16/2016 5:11:16 PM, bulproof wrote:
Some questions for christianity.

Is Jesus god?
Do the righteous go to heaven?
Is heaven a reward for believing in the god of the bible?
Did god create the universe in six days?
Did god create plants before he created the sun?
Did god create a talking serpent?

In my first answer, i failed to answer the second question.
"The righteous" according to Christian doctrine are those saved by Christ from death by believing he died to pay for their sins. So in that sense yes. However if you are talking about the morally righteous or simply upstanding individuals, then the answer would be no according to a verse that says "for we are saved by grace through faith, not of works, lest any man should boast." I can't recall the exact verse, but if you would like proof i can look it up.
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3/18/2016 5:10:06 AM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 3/16/2016 5:11:16 PM, bulproof wrote:
Some questions for christianity.

Is Jesus god? NO
Do the righteous go to heaven? NO
Is heaven a reward for believing in the god of the bible? NO
Did god create the universe in six days? NO
Did god create plants before he created the sun? NO
Did god create a talking serpent? NO
bulproof
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3/19/2016 2:36:49 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 3/18/2016 5:10:06 AM, Peternosaint wrote:
At 3/16/2016 5:11:16 PM, bulproof wrote:
Some questions for christianity.

Is Jesus god? NO
Do the righteous go to heaven? NO
Is heaven a reward for believing in the god of the bible? NO
Did god create the universe in six days? NO
Did god create plants before he created the sun? NO
Did god create a talking serpent? NO
What makes you a christian given all of the contradictory answers you alleged christians have provided? Are any of you christians?
Religion is just mind control. George Carlin
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3/19/2016 2:48:40 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 3/16/2016 5:11:16 PM, bulproof wrote:
Some questions for christianity.

Is Jesus god?

Yes
Do the righteous go to heaven?

Yes

Is heaven a reward for believing in the god of the bible?

Yes

Did god create the universe in six days?

Probably not.

Did god create plants before he created the sun?

Probably not

Did god create a talking serpent?

I think the Devil took the form of a large serpant/dragon
If that was the only issue, then vote moderation could be avoided more often, since a vote in which the voter does explain sufficiently how at least one point a debater made swung their vote, would be considered sufficient. -Airmax
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3/19/2016 2:55:10 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 3/19/2016 2:48:40 PM, dsjpk5 wrote:
At 3/16/2016 5:11:16 PM, bulproof wrote:
Some questions for christianity.

Is Jesus god?

Yes
Do the righteous go to heaven?

Yes

Is heaven a reward for believing in the god of the bible?

Yes

Did god create the universe in six days?

Probably not.
So god is wrong?
Did god create plants before he created the sun?

Probably not
So god is wrong?
Did god create a talking serpent?


I think the Devil took the form of a large serpant/dragon
So god didn't create everything?
Religion is just mind control. George Carlin
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3/19/2016 2:58:30 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 3/17/2016 6:39:56 PM, bamiller43 wrote:
Heaven is a reward for believing ON the God of the bible
What does believing "ON" something mean?
Religion is just mind control. George Carlin
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3/19/2016 3:18:03 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 3/19/2016 2:55:10 PM, bulproof wrote:
At 3/19/2016 2:48:40 PM, dsjpk5 wrote:
At 3/16/2016 5:11:16 PM, bulproof wrote:
Some questions for christianity.

Is Jesus god?

Yes
Do the righteous go to heaven?

Yes

Is heaven a reward for believing in the god of the bible?

Yes

Did god create the universe in six days?

Probably not.
So god is wrong?

Or the author didn't mean six 24 hour days.

Did god create plants before he created the sun?

Probably not
So god is wrong?

Or the author never intended that passage to read like a modern day history book

Did god create a talking serpent?


I think the Devil took the form of a large serpant/dragon

So god didn't create everything?

He created the angels and gave them the ability to appear differently at different times.
If that was the only issue, then vote moderation could be avoided more often, since a vote in which the voter does explain sufficiently how at least one point a debater made swung their vote, would be considered sufficient. -Airmax
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3/19/2016 3:37:12 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 3/19/2016 3:18:03 PM, dsjpk5 wrote:
At 3/19/2016 2:55:10 PM, bulproof wrote:
At 3/19/2016 2:48:40 PM, dsjpk5 wrote:
At 3/16/2016 5:11:16 PM, bulproof wrote:
Some questions for christianity.

Is Jesus god?

Yes
Do the righteous go to heaven?

Yes

Is heaven a reward for believing in the god of the bible?

Yes

Did god create the universe in six days?

Probably not.
So god is wrong?


Or the author didn't mean six 24 hour days.

Did god create plants before he created the sun?

Probably not
So god is wrong?

Or the author never intended that passage to read like a modern day history book


Did god create a talking serpent?


I think the Devil took the form of a large serpant/dragon

So god didn't create everything?

He created the angels and gave them the ability to appear differently at different times.

So your response is that the bible is a storybook written by man and has nothing to do with the word of god.
Is that settled?
Religion is just mind control. George Carlin
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3/19/2016 3:51:46 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 3/17/2016 2:02:42 PM, bulproof wrote:
C'mon godbotherers.
Are the questions to hard or are your answers just to embarrassing?

... and you wonder why Mrs. Bulproof isn't on speaking terms with you half the time?
Madcornishbiker: "No, I don't need a dictionary, I know how scripture uses words and that is all I need to now."
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3/19/2016 5:05:20 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 3/19/2016 3:51:46 PM, annanicole wrote:
At 3/17/2016 2:02:42 PM, bulproof wrote:
C'mon godbotherers.
Are the questions to hard or are your answers just to embarrassing?

... and you wonder why Mrs. Bulproof isn't on speaking terms with you half the time?
You haven't answered the questions Annie.
Religion is just mind control. George Carlin
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3/19/2016 5:45:50 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 3/19/2016 3:37:12 PM, bulproof wrote:
At 3/19/2016 3:18:03 PM, dsjpk5 wrote:
At 3/19/2016 2:55:10 PM, bulproof wrote:
At 3/19/2016 2:48:40 PM, dsjpk5 wrote:
At 3/16/2016 5:11:16 PM, bulproof wrote:
Some questions for christianity.

Is Jesus god?

Yes
Do the righteous go to heaven?

Yes

Is heaven a reward for believing in the god of the bible?

Yes

Did god create the universe in six days?

Probably not.
So god is wrong?


Or the author didn't mean six 24 hour days.

Did god create plants before he created the sun?

Probably not
So god is wrong?

Or the author never intended that passage to read like a modern day history book


Did god create a talking serpent?


I think the Devil took the form of a large serpant/dragon

So god didn't create everything?

He created the angels and gave them the ability to appear differently at different times.

So your response is that the bible is a storybook written by man and has nothing to do with the word of god.
Is that settled?

I never said any such thing. Please don't put words in my mouth. God inspired every word, but He didn't dictate them.Some authors used hyperbole, and some did not.
If that was the only issue, then vote moderation could be avoided more often, since a vote in which the voter does explain sufficiently how at least one point a debater made swung their vote, would be considered sufficient. -Airmax
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3/19/2016 6:34:42 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 3/19/2016 5:05:20 PM, bulproof wrote:
At 3/19/2016 3:51:46 PM, annanicole wrote:
At 3/17/2016 2:02:42 PM, bulproof wrote:
C'mon godbotherers.
Are the questions to hard or are your answers just to embarrassing?

... and you wonder why Mrs. Bulproof isn't on speaking terms with you half the time?
You haven't answered the questions Annie.

Sorry, I was trying to answer more important questions, such as "Do I want to get a carton of Camels, or a carton of Lucky Strikes? And Cokes or Dr. Peppers or both?"
Madcornishbiker: "No, I don't need a dictionary, I know how scripture uses words and that is all I need to now."
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3/21/2016 10:43:49 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 3/19/2016 2:58:30 PM, bulproof wrote:
At 3/17/2016 6:39:56 PM, bamiller43 wrote:
Heaven is a reward for believing ON the God of the bible
What does believing "ON" something mean?

Good question, i suppose i should have clarified. It's something i always heard during my years in church. Basically it means that rather than believing God exists, you also believe that he is YOUR God, and you are his. It also means you believe his son Jesus died on the cross for your sins, and has saved your soul from hell.