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Chloe8
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3/23/2016 7:39:40 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
The Bible"s attitude to sex reveals it was written by primitive tribesmen, not a god

The way the Bible treats sex is a valuable clue as to its origins. The following list is taken from:

https://wisesloth.wordpress.com...

If you have a wet dream you have to leave your camp for a fortnight until you"re "clean."
When a women is having her menstrual cycle she"s "unclean," and if a man touches anything she"s touched during her menstrual cycle he"ll become unclean as well and have to purify himself before God.
Yahweh killed Onan for "spilling his seed"
Lot"s daughter"s got him drunk and raped him, and this was okay.
Lot let an angry mob gang rape his daughters, and this pleased Yahweh.
Several Biblical characters married their cousins.
Fathers sold their daughters, and Yahweh wrote specific instructions for how to do this.
Yahweh wrote specific instructions for how a rapists is supposed to buy the women he rapes.
Yahweh lists women as property not to be coveted.
Yahweh told Paul that women should obey their husbands, be silent in church and not wear expensive jewelry.
Jesus said it"s better to rush into a lifelong marriage than to the have casual sex (probably because Yahweh said to stone adulteresses to death).
It is revealing that the sexual ethics in the Bible are consistent with the prevailing morality of the times in which it was written, but pathetically primitive when compared to modern times. Why would this be so if the Bible was the word of an all-knowing god who should have been aware of the future evolution of civilization? Why are modern-day sexual ethics superior to those God allegedly prescribed a few thousand years ago? Both of these questions can be answered by acknowledging that the Bible was written by men, mired in their own primitive times, and without ANY supernatural inspiration.
"I don't need experience.to knock you out. I'm a man. that's all I need to beat you and any woman."

Fatihah, in his delusion that he could knock out any woman while bragging about being able to knock me out. An example of 7th century Islamic thinking inspired by his hero the paedophile Muhammad.
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3/23/2016 7:42:22 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 3/23/2016 7:39:40 PM, Chloe8 wrote:
The Bible"s attitude to sex reveals it was written by primitive tribesmen, not a god

The way the Bible treats sex is a valuable clue as to its origins. The following list is taken from:

https://wisesloth.wordpress.com...

If you have a wet dream you have to leave your camp for a fortnight until you"re "clean."
When a women is having her menstrual cycle she"s "unclean," and if a man touches anything she"s touched during her menstrual cycle he"ll become unclean as well and have to purify himself before God.
Yahweh killed Onan for "spilling his seed"
Lot"s daughter"s got him drunk and raped him, and this was okay.
Lot let an angry mob gang rape his daughters, and this pleased Yahweh.
Several Biblical characters married their cousins.
Fathers sold their daughters, and Yahweh wrote specific instructions for how to do this.
Yahweh wrote specific instructions for how a rapists is supposed to buy the women he rapes.
Yahweh lists women as property not to be coveted.
Yahweh told Paul that women should obey their husbands, be silent in church and not wear expensive jewelry.
Jesus said it"s better to rush into a lifelong marriage than to the have casual sex (probably because Yahweh said to stone adulteresses to death).
It is revealing that the sexual ethics in the Bible are consistent with the prevailing morality of the times in which it was written, but pathetically primitive when compared to modern times. Why would this be so if the Bible was the word of an all-knowing god who should have been aware of the future evolution of civilization? Why are modern-day sexual ethics superior to those God allegedly prescribed a few thousand years ago? Both of these questions can be answered by acknowledging that the Bible was written by men, mired in their own primitive times, and without ANY supernatural inspiration. : :

I'm sure you kind find all these primitive attitudes towards sex somewhere in the world today. Not all of us are reformed from those primitive tendencies.
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3/23/2016 7:51:53 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 3/23/2016 7:42:22 PM, nonwo wrote:
At 3/23/2016 7:39:40 PM, Chloe8 wrote:
The Bible"s attitude to sex reveals it was written by primitive tribesmen, not a god

The way the Bible treats sex is a valuable clue as to its origins. The following list is taken from:

https://wisesloth.wordpress.com...

If you have a wet dream you have to leave your camp for a fortnight until you"re "clean."
When a women is having her menstrual cycle she"s "unclean," and if a man touches anything she"s touched during her menstrual cycle he"ll become unclean as well and have to purify himself before God.
Yahweh killed Onan for "spilling his seed"
Lot"s daughter"s got him drunk and raped him, and this was okay.
Lot let an angry mob gang rape his daughters, and this pleased Yahweh.
Several Biblical characters married their cousins.
Fathers sold their daughters, and Yahweh wrote specific instructions for how to do this.
Yahweh wrote specific instructions for how a rapists is supposed to buy the women he rapes.
Yahweh lists women as property not to be coveted.
Yahweh told Paul that women should obey their husbands, be silent in church and not wear expensive jewelry.
Jesus said it"s better to rush into a lifelong marriage than to the have casual sex (probably because Yahweh said to stone adulteresses to death).
It is revealing that the sexual ethics in the Bible are consistent with the prevailing morality of the times in which it was written, but pathetically primitive when compared to modern times. Why would this be so if the Bible was the word of an all-knowing god who should have been aware of the future evolution of civilization? Why are modern-day sexual ethics superior to those God allegedly prescribed a few thousand years ago? Both of these questions can be answered by acknowledging that the Bible was written by men, mired in their own primitive times, and without ANY supernatural inspiration. : :

I'm sure you kind find all these primitive attitudes towards sex somewhere in the world today. Not all of us are reformed from those primitive tendencies.

Im sure you could find these attitudes in the most primitive of places. However this just reinforces my point. Modern society completely rejects them. Why would such a clever god act like bronze age tribesmen?
"I don't need experience.to knock you out. I'm a man. that's all I need to beat you and any woman."

Fatihah, in his delusion that he could knock out any woman while bragging about being able to knock me out. An example of 7th century Islamic thinking inspired by his hero the paedophile Muhammad.
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3/23/2016 7:54:50 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 3/23/2016 7:51:53 PM, Chloe8 wrote:
At 3/23/2016 7:42:22 PM, nonwo wrote:
At 3/23/2016 7:39:40 PM, Chloe8 wrote:
The Bible"s attitude to sex reveals it was written by primitive tribesmen, not a god

The way the Bible treats sex is a valuable clue as to its origins. The following list is taken from:

https://wisesloth.wordpress.com...

If you have a wet dream you have to leave your camp for a fortnight until you"re "clean."
When a women is having her menstrual cycle she"s "unclean," and if a man touches anything she"s touched during her menstrual cycle he"ll become unclean as well and have to purify himself before God.
Yahweh killed Onan for "spilling his seed"
Lot"s daughter"s got him drunk and raped him, and this was okay.
Lot let an angry mob gang rape his daughters, and this pleased Yahweh.
Several Biblical characters married their cousins.
Fathers sold their daughters, and Yahweh wrote specific instructions for how to do this.
Yahweh wrote specific instructions for how a rapists is supposed to buy the women he rapes.
Yahweh lists women as property not to be coveted.
Yahweh told Paul that women should obey their husbands, be silent in church and not wear expensive jewelry.
Jesus said it"s better to rush into a lifelong marriage than to the have casual sex (probably because Yahweh said to stone adulteresses to death).
It is revealing that the sexual ethics in the Bible are consistent with the prevailing morality of the times in which it was written, but pathetically primitive when compared to modern times. Why would this be so if the Bible was the word of an all-knowing god who should have been aware of the future evolution of civilization? Why are modern-day sexual ethics superior to those God allegedly prescribed a few thousand years ago? Both of these questions can be answered by acknowledging that the Bible was written by men, mired in their own primitive times, and without ANY supernatural inspiration. : :

I'm sure you kind find all these primitive attitudes towards sex somewhere in the world today. Not all of us are reformed from those primitive tendencies.

Im sure you could find these attitudes in the most primitive of places. However this just reinforces my point. Modern society completely rejects them. Why would such a clever god act like bronze age tribesmen? : :

Modern society doesn't reject them. Modern society is made up of many primitive thinking individuals who wish they could practice such attitudes towards sex. It's the laws that would put them in prison which makes most of them keep their practices at a minimum.
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3/23/2016 7:55:24 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 3/23/2016 7:39:40 PM, Chloe8 wrote:
The Bible"s attitude to sex reveals it was written by primitive tribesmen, not a god

The way the Bible treats sex is a valuable clue as to its origins. The following list is taken from:

https://wisesloth.wordpress.com...

If you have a wet dream you have to leave your camp for a fortnight until you"re "clean."
When a women is having her menstrual cycle she"s "unclean," and if a man touches anything she"s touched during her menstrual cycle he"ll become unclean as well and have to purify himself before God.
Yahweh killed Onan for "spilling his seed"
Lot"s daughter"s got him drunk and raped him, and this was okay.
Lot let an angry mob gang rape his daughters, and this pleased Yahweh.
Several Biblical characters married their cousins.
Fathers sold their daughters, and Yahweh wrote specific instructions for how to do this.
Yahweh wrote specific instructions for how a rapists is supposed to buy the women he rapes.
Yahweh lists women as property not to be coveted.
Yahweh told Paul that women should obey their husbands, be silent in church and not wear expensive jewelry.
Jesus said it"s better to rush into a lifelong marriage than to the have casual sex (probably because Yahweh said to stone adulteresses to death).
It is revealing that the sexual ethics in the Bible are consistent with the prevailing morality of the times in which it was written, but pathetically primitive when compared to modern times. Why would this be so if the Bible was the word of an all-knowing god who should have been aware of the future evolution of civilization? Why are modern-day sexual ethics superior to those God allegedly prescribed a few thousand years ago? Both of these questions can be answered by acknowledging that the Bible was written by men, mired in their own primitive times, and without ANY supernatural inspiration.

Should I take the time to go through and knock these out one by one or just ask for citations and end all debate?

I know right off of the top of my head that Lot's daughters were not raped, nor was God okay with it(seeing they weren't raped).

Jesus never said,"Rush into a marriage"...

Etc, etc, etc...yawn...
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Chloe8
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3/23/2016 8:04:29 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 3/23/2016 7:54:50 PM, nonwo wrote:
At 3/23/2016 7:51:53 PM, Chloe8 wrote:
At 3/23/2016 7:42:22 PM, nonwo wrote:
At 3/23/2016 7:39:40 PM, Chloe8 wrote:
The Bible"s attitude to sex reveals it was written by primitive tribesmen, not a god

The way the Bible treats sex is a valuable clue as to its origins. The following list is taken from:

https://wisesloth.wordpress.com...

If you have a wet dream you have to leave your camp for a fortnight until you"re "clean."
When a women is having her menstrual cycle she"s "unclean," and if a man touches anything she"s touched during her menstrual cycle he"ll become unclean as well and have to purify himself before God.
Yahweh killed Onan for "spilling his seed"
Lot"s daughter"s got him drunk and raped him, and this was okay.
Lot let an angry mob gang rape his daughters, and this pleased Yahweh.
Several Biblical characters married their cousins.
Fathers sold their daughters, and Yahweh wrote specific instructions for how to do this.
Yahweh wrote specific instructions for how a rapists is supposed to buy the women he rapes.
Yahweh lists women as property not to be coveted.
Yahweh told Paul that women should obey their husbands, be silent in church and not wear expensive jewelry.
Jesus said it"s better to rush into a lifelong marriage than to the have casual sex (probably because Yahweh said to stone adulteresses to death).
It is revealing that the sexual ethics in the Bible are consistent with the prevailing morality of the times in which it was written, but pathetically primitive when compared to modern times. Why would this be so if the Bible was the word of an all-knowing god who should have been aware of the future evolution of civilization? Why are modern-day sexual ethics superior to those God allegedly prescribed a few thousand years ago? Both of these questions can be answered by acknowledging that the Bible was written by men, mired in their own primitive times, and without ANY supernatural inspiration. : :

I'm sure you kind find all these primitive attitudes towards sex somewhere in the world today. Not all of us are reformed from those primitive tendencies.

Im sure you could find these attitudes in the most primitive of places. However this just reinforces my point. Modern society completely rejects them. Why would such a clever god act like bronze age tribesmen? : :

Modern society doesn't reject them. Modern society is made up of many primitive thinking individuals who wish they could practice such attitudes towards sex. It's the laws that would put them in prison which makes most of them keep their practices at a minimum.

Wrong. Most people in modern society reject primitive biblical attitudes towards sex. If this was not the case laws preventing many currently illegal sexual acts would not be in place. Laws are implemented in democracies because of a majority consensus.
"I don't need experience.to knock you out. I'm a man. that's all I need to beat you and any woman."

Fatihah, in his delusion that he could knock out any woman while bragging about being able to knock me out. An example of 7th century Islamic thinking inspired by his hero the paedophile Muhammad.
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3/23/2016 8:08:33 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 3/23/2016 8:04:29 PM, Chloe8 wrote:
At 3/23/2016 7:54:50 PM, nonwo wrote:
At 3/23/2016 7:51:53 PM, Chloe8 wrote:
At 3/23/2016 7:42:22 PM, nonwo wrote:
At 3/23/2016 7:39:40 PM, Chloe8 wrote:
The Bible"s attitude to sex reveals it was written by primitive tribesmen, not a god

The way the Bible treats sex is a valuable clue as to its origins. The following list is taken from:

https://wisesloth.wordpress.com...

If you have a wet dream you have to leave your camp for a fortnight until you"re "clean."
When a women is having her menstrual cycle she"s "unclean," and if a man touches anything she"s touched during her menstrual cycle he"ll become unclean as well and have to purify himself before God.
Yahweh killed Onan for "spilling his seed"
Lot"s daughter"s got him drunk and raped him, and this was okay.
Lot let an angry mob gang rape his daughters, and this pleased Yahweh.
Several Biblical characters married their cousins.
Fathers sold their daughters, and Yahweh wrote specific instructions for how to do this.
Yahweh wrote specific instructions for how a rapists is supposed to buy the women he rapes.
Yahweh lists women as property not to be coveted.
Yahweh told Paul that women should obey their husbands, be silent in church and not wear expensive jewelry.
Jesus said it"s better to rush into a lifelong marriage than to the have casual sex (probably because Yahweh said to stone adulteresses to death).
It is revealing that the sexual ethics in the Bible are consistent with the prevailing morality of the times in which it was written, but pathetically primitive when compared to modern times. Why would this be so if the Bible was the word of an all-knowing god who should have been aware of the future evolution of civilization? Why are modern-day sexual ethics superior to those God allegedly prescribed a few thousand years ago? Both of these questions can be answered by acknowledging that the Bible was written by men, mired in their own primitive times, and without ANY supernatural inspiration. : :

I'm sure you kind find all these primitive attitudes towards sex somewhere in the world today. Not all of us are reformed from those primitive tendencies.

Im sure you could find these attitudes in the most primitive of places. However this just reinforces my point. Modern society completely rejects them. Why would such a clever god act like bronze age tribesmen? : :

Modern society doesn't reject them. Modern society is made up of many primitive thinking individuals who wish they could practice such attitudes towards sex. It's the laws that would put them in prison which makes most of them keep their practices at a minimum.

Wrong. Most people in modern society reject primitive biblical attitudes towards sex. If this was not the case laws preventing many currently illegal sexual acts would not be in place. Laws are implemented in democracies because of a majority consensus. : :

Laws are written by hypocrites who are sexual deviates but afraid to admit it. They have to write laws to protect themselves against raping one another. Man hasn't changed a bit but laws have over the years.
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3/23/2016 8:28:33 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 3/23/2016 8:08:33 PM, nonwo wrote:
At 3/23/2016 8:04:29 PM, Chloe8 wrote:
At 3/23/2016 7:54:50 PM, nonwo wrote:
At 3/23/2016 7:51:53 PM, Chloe8 wrote:
At 3/23/2016 7:42:22 PM, nonwo wrote:
At 3/23/2016 7:39:40 PM, Chloe8 wrote:
The Bible"s attitude to sex reveals it was written by primitive tribesmen, not a god

The way the Bible treats sex is a valuable clue as to its origins. The following list is taken from:

https://wisesloth.wordpress.com...

If you have a wet dream you have to leave your camp for a fortnight until you"re "clean."
When a women is having her menstrual cycle she"s "unclean," and if a man touches anything she"s touched during her menstrual cycle he"ll become unclean as well and have to purify himself before God.
Yahweh killed Onan for "spilling his seed"
Lot"s daughter"s got him drunk and raped him, and this was okay.
Lot let an angry mob gang rape his daughters, and this pleased Yahweh.
Several Biblical characters married their cousins.
Fathers sold their daughters, and Yahweh wrote specific instructions for how to do this.
Yahweh wrote specific instructions for how a rapists is supposed to buy the women he rapes.
Yahweh lists women as property not to be coveted.
Yahweh told Paul that women should obey their husbands, be silent in church and not wear expensive jewelry.
Jesus said it"s better to rush into a lifelong marriage than to the have casual sex (probably because Yahweh said to stone adulteresses to death).
It is revealing that the sexual ethics in the Bible are consistent with the prevailing morality of the times in which it was written, but pathetically primitive when compared to modern times. Why would this be so if the Bible was the word of an all-knowing god who should have been aware of the future evolution of civilization? Why are modern-day sexual ethics superior to those God allegedly prescribed a few thousand years ago? Both of these questions can be answered by acknowledging that the Bible was written by men, mired in their own primitive times, and without ANY supernatural inspiration. : :

I'm sure you kind find all these primitive attitudes towards sex somewhere in the world today. Not all of us are reformed from those primitive tendencies.

Im sure you could find these attitudes in the most primitive of places. However this just reinforces my point. Modern society completely rejects them. Why would such a clever god act like bronze age tribesmen? : :

Modern society doesn't reject them. Modern society is made up of many primitive thinking individuals who wish they could practice such attitudes towards sex. It's the laws that would put them in prison which makes most of them keep their practices at a minimum.

Wrong. Most people in modern society reject primitive biblical attitudes towards sex. If this was not the case laws preventing many currently illegal sexual acts would not be in place. Laws are implemented in democracies because of a majority consensus. : :

Laws are written by hypocrites who are sexual deviates but afraid to admit it. They have to write laws to protect themselves against raping one another. Man hasn't changed a bit but laws have over the years.

Actually we are slowly through evolution and education becoming a more intelligent, advanced society. Hence life expectancy is higher and crime rates lower. The people making the laws are not doing it to protect themselves. How silly you are! If they wanted to carry out rape then they would not want a law condemning rapists to prison!
"I don't need experience.to knock you out. I'm a man. that's all I need to beat you and any woman."

Fatihah, in his delusion that he could knock out any woman while bragging about being able to knock me out. An example of 7th century Islamic thinking inspired by his hero the paedophile Muhammad.
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3/23/2016 8:30:33 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 3/23/2016 7:39:40 PM, Chloe8 wrote:
The Bible"s attitude to sex reveals it was written by primitive tribesmen, not a god

The way the Bible treats sex is a valuable clue as to its origins. The following list is taken from:

https://wisesloth.wordpress.com...

If you have a wet dream you have to leave your camp for a fortnight until you"re "clean."
When a women is having her menstrual cycle she"s "unclean," and if a man touches anything she"s touched during her menstrual cycle he"ll become unclean as well and have to purify himself before God.
Yahweh killed Onan for "spilling his seed"
Lot"s daughter"s got him drunk and raped him, and this was okay.
Lot let an angry mob gang rape his daughters, and this pleased Yahweh.
Several Biblical characters married their cousins.
Fathers sold their daughters, and Yahweh wrote specific instructions for how to do this.
Yahweh wrote specific instructions for how a rapists is supposed to buy the women he rapes.
Yahweh lists women as property not to be coveted.
Yahweh told Paul that women should obey their husbands, be silent in church and not wear expensive jewelry.
Jesus said it"s better to rush into a lifelong marriage than to the have casual sex (probably because Yahweh said to stone adulteresses to death).
It is revealing that the sexual ethics in the Bible are consistent with the prevailing morality of the times in which it was written, but pathetically primitive when compared to modern times. Why would this be so if the Bible was the word of an all-knowing god who should have been aware of the future evolution of civilization? Why are modern-day sexual ethics superior to those God allegedly prescribed a few thousand years ago? Both of these questions can be answered by acknowledging that the Bible was written by men, mired in their own primitive times, and without ANY supernatural inspiration.

Cite the biblical passages confirming your statements. I stopped reading after 5 because they were so off.

And yet again primitive doesn't mean wrong. If these are wrong please enlightnen us with what you think is right.

In fact from now on why don't you just post what you think is right and forget the whole erroneous bible says 'this' stuff.
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3/23/2016 8:34:32 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 3/23/2016 8:28:33 PM, Chloe8 wrote:
At 3/23/2016 8:08:33 PM, nonwo wrote:
At 3/23/2016 8:04:29 PM, Chloe8 wrote:
At 3/23/2016 7:54:50 PM, nonwo wrote:
At 3/23/2016 7:51:53 PM, Chloe8 wrote:
At 3/23/2016 7:42:22 PM, nonwo wrote:
At 3/23/2016 7:39:40 PM, Chloe8 wrote:
The Bible"s attitude to sex reveals it was written by primitive tribesmen, not a god

The way the Bible treats sex is a valuable clue as to its origins. The following list is taken from:

https://wisesloth.wordpress.com...

If you have a wet dream you have to leave your camp for a fortnight until you"re "clean."
When a women is having her menstrual cycle she"s "unclean," and if a man touches anything she"s touched during her menstrual cycle he"ll become unclean as well and have to purify himself before God.
Yahweh killed Onan for "spilling his seed"
Lot"s daughter"s got him drunk and raped him, and this was okay.
Lot let an angry mob gang rape his daughters, and this pleased Yahweh.
Several Biblical characters married their cousins.
Fathers sold their daughters, and Yahweh wrote specific instructions for how to do this.
Yahweh wrote specific instructions for how a rapists is supposed to buy the women he rapes.
Yahweh lists women as property not to be coveted.
Yahweh told Paul that women should obey their husbands, be silent in church and not wear expensive jewelry.
Jesus said it"s better to rush into a lifelong marriage than to the have casual sex (probably because Yahweh said to stone adulteresses to death).
It is revealing that the sexual ethics in the Bible are consistent with the prevailing morality of the times in which it was written, but pathetically primitive when compared to modern times. Why would this be so if the Bible was the word of an all-knowing god who should have been aware of the future evolution of civilization? Why are modern-day sexual ethics superior to those God allegedly prescribed a few thousand years ago? Both of these questions can be answered by acknowledging that the Bible was written by men, mired in their own primitive times, and without ANY supernatural inspiration. : :

I'm sure you kind find all these primitive attitudes towards sex somewhere in the world today. Not all of us are reformed from those primitive tendencies.

Im sure you could find these attitudes in the most primitive of places. However this just reinforces my point. Modern society completely rejects them. Why would such a clever god act like bronze age tribesmen? : :

Modern society doesn't reject them. Modern society is made up of many primitive thinking individuals who wish they could practice such attitudes towards sex. It's the laws that would put them in prison which makes most of them keep their practices at a minimum.

Wrong. Most people in modern society reject primitive biblical attitudes towards sex. If this was not the case laws preventing many currently illegal sexual acts would not be in place. Laws are implemented in democracies because of a majority consensus. : :

Laws are written by hypocrites who are sexual deviates but afraid to admit it. They have to write laws to protect themselves against raping one another. Man hasn't changed a bit but laws have over the years.

Actually we are slowly through evolution and education becoming a more intelligent, advanced society. Hence life expectancy is higher and crime rates lower. The people making the laws are not doing it to protect themselves. How silly you are! If they wanted to carry out rape then they would not want a law condemning rapists to prison! : :

If that was true, then we wouldn't need any laws to protect women and children from rapists and incest. You simply don't understand that man has not changed at all. Only the laws change.
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3/23/2016 8:43:48 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 3/23/2016 8:30:33 PM, Mhykiel wrote:
At 3/23/2016 7:39:40 PM, Chloe8 wrote:
The Bible"s attitude to sex reveals it was written by primitive tribesmen, not a god

The way the Bible treats sex is a valuable clue as to its origins. The following list is taken from:

https://wisesloth.wordpress.com...

If you have a wet dream you have to leave your camp for a fortnight until you"re "clean."
When a women is having her menstrual cycle she"s "unclean," and if a man touches anything she"s touched during her menstrual cycle he"ll become unclean as well and have to purify himself before God.
Yahweh killed Onan for "spilling his seed"
Lot"s daughter"s got him drunk and raped him, and this was okay.
Lot let an angry mob gang rape his daughters, and this pleased Yahweh.
Several Biblical characters married their cousins.
Fathers sold their daughters, and Yahweh wrote specific instructions for how to do this.
Yahweh wrote specific instructions for how a rapists is supposed to buy the women he rapes.
Yahweh lists women as property not to be coveted.
Yahweh told Paul that women should obey their husbands, be silent in church and not wear expensive jewelry.
Jesus said it"s better to rush into a lifelong marriage than to the have casual sex (probably because Yahweh said to stone adulteresses to death).
It is revealing that the sexual ethics in the Bible are consistent with the prevailing morality of the times in which it was written, but pathetically primitive when compared to modern times. Why would this be so if the Bible was the word of an all-knowing god who should have been aware of the future evolution of civilization? Why are modern-day sexual ethics superior to those God allegedly prescribed a few thousand years ago? Both of these questions can be answered by acknowledging that the Bible was written by men, mired in their own primitive times, and without ANY supernatural inspiration.

Cite the biblical passages confirming your statements. I stopped reading after 5 because they were so off.

And yet again primitive doesn't mean wrong. If these are wrong please enlightnen us with what you think is right.

In fact from now on why don't you just post what you think is right and forget the whole erroneous bible says 'this' stuff.

Chloe talk sensibly
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3/23/2016 8:45:07 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 3/23/2016 8:34:32 PM, nonwo wrote:
At 3/23/2016 8:28:33 PM, Chloe8 wrote:
At 3/23/2016 8:08:33 PM, nonwo wrote:
At 3/23/2016 8:04:29 PM, Chloe8 wrote:
At 3/23/2016 7:54:50 PM, nonwo wrote:
At 3/23/2016 7:51:53 PM, Chloe8 wrote:
At 3/23/2016 7:42:22 PM, nonwo wrote:
At 3/23/2016 7:39:40 PM, Chloe8 wrote:
The Bible"s attitude to sex reveals it was written by primitive tribesmen, not a god

The way the Bible treats sex is a valuable clue as to its origins. The following list is taken from:

https://wisesloth.wordpress.com...

If you have a wet dream you have to leave your camp for a fortnight until you"re "clean."
When a women is having her menstrual cycle she"s "unclean," and if a man touches anything she"s touched during her menstrual cycle he"ll become unclean as well and have to purify himself before God.
Yahweh killed Onan for "spilling his seed"
Lot"s daughter"s got him drunk and raped him, and this was okay.
Lot let an angry mob gang rape his daughters, and this pleased Yahweh.
Several Biblical characters married their cousins.
Fathers sold their daughters, and Yahweh wrote specific instructions for how to do this.
Yahweh wrote specific instructions for how a rapists is supposed to buy the women he rapes.
Yahweh lists women as property not to be coveted.
Yahweh told Paul that women should obey their husbands, be silent in church and not wear expensive jewelry.
Jesus said it"s better to rush into a lifelong marriage than to the have casual sex (probably because Yahweh said to stone adulteresses to death).
It is revealing that the sexual ethics in the Bible are consistent with the prevailing morality of the times in which it was written, but pathetically primitive when compared to modern times. Why would this be so if the Bible was the word of an all-knowing god who should have been aware of the future evolution of civilization? Why are modern-day sexual ethics superior to those God allegedly prescribed a few thousand years ago? Both of these questions can be answered by acknowledging that the Bible was written by men, mired in their own primitive times, and without ANY supernatural inspiration. : :

I'm sure you kind find all these primitive attitudes towards sex somewhere in the world today. Not all of us are reformed from those primitive tendencies.

Im sure you could find these attitudes in the most primitive of places. However this just reinforces my point. Modern society completely rejects them. Why would such a clever god act like bronze age tribesmen? : :

Modern society doesn't reject them. Modern society is made up of many primitive thinking individuals who wish they could practice such attitudes towards sex. It's the laws that would put them in prison which makes most of them keep their practices at a minimum.

Wrong. Most people in modern society reject primitive biblical attitudes towards sex. If this was not the case laws preventing many currently illegal sexual acts would not be in place. Laws are implemented in democracies because of a majority consensus. : :

Laws are written by hypocrites who are sexual deviates but afraid to admit it. They have to write laws to protect themselves against raping one another. Man hasn't changed a bit but laws have over the years.

Actually we are slowly through evolution and education becoming a more intelligent, advanced society. Hence life expectancy is higher and crime rates lower. The people making the laws are not doing it to protect themselves. How silly you are! If they wanted to carry out rape then they would not want a law condemning rapists to prison! : :

If that was true, then we wouldn't need any laws to protect women and children from rapists and incest. You simply don't understand that man has not changed at all. Only the laws change.

Men being men and women this time ?
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3/23/2016 8:46:49 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 3/23/2016 8:45:07 PM, Deb-8-A-Bull wrote:
At 3/23/2016 8:34:32 PM, nonwo wrote:
At 3/23/2016 8:28:33 PM, Chloe8 wrote:
At 3/23/2016 8:08:33 PM, nonwo wrote:
At 3/23/2016 8:04:29 PM, Chloe8 wrote:
At 3/23/2016 7:54:50 PM, nonwo wrote:
At 3/23/2016 7:51:53 PM, Chloe8 wrote:
At 3/23/2016 7:42:22 PM, nonwo wrote:
At 3/23/2016 7:39:40 PM, Chloe8 wrote:
The Bible"s attitude to sex reveals it was written by primitive tribesmen, not a god

The way the Bible treats sex is a valuable clue as to its origins. The following list is taken from:

https://wisesloth.wordpress.com...

If you have a wet dream you have to leave your camp for a fortnight until you"re "clean."
When a women is having her menstrual cycle she"s "unclean," and if a man touches anything she"s touched during her menstrual cycle he"ll become unclean as well and have to purify himself before God.
Yahweh killed Onan for "spilling his seed"
Lot"s daughter"s got him drunk and raped him, and this was okay.
Lot let an angry mob gang rape his daughters, and this pleased Yahweh.
Several Biblical characters married their cousins.
Fathers sold their daughters, and Yahweh wrote specific instructions for how to do this.
Yahweh wrote specific instructions for how a rapists is supposed to buy the women he rapes.
Yahweh lists women as property not to be coveted.
Yahweh told Paul that women should obey their husbands, be silent in church and not wear expensive jewelry.
Jesus said it"s better to rush into a lifelong marriage than to the have casual sex (probably because Yahweh said to stone adulteresses to death).
It is revealing that the sexual ethics in the Bible are consistent with the prevailing morality of the times in which it was written, but pathetically primitive when compared to modern times. Why would this be so if the Bible was the word of an all-knowing god who should have been aware of the future evolution of civilization? Why are modern-day sexual ethics superior to those God allegedly prescribed a few thousand years ago? Both of these questions can be answered by acknowledging that the Bible was written by men, mired in their own primitive times, and without ANY supernatural inspiration. : :

I'm sure you kind find all these primitive attitudes towards sex somewhere in the world today. Not all of us are reformed from those primitive tendencies.

Im sure you could find these attitudes in the most primitive of places. However this just reinforces my point. Modern society completely rejects them. Why would such a clever god act like bronze age tribesmen? : :

Modern society doesn't reject them. Modern society is made up of many primitive thinking individuals who wish they could practice such attitudes towards sex. It's the laws that would put them in prison which makes most of them keep their practices at a minimum.

Wrong. Most people in modern society reject primitive biblical attitudes towards sex. If this was not the case laws preventing many currently illegal sexual acts would not be in place. Laws are implemented in democracies because of a majority consensus. : :

Laws are written by hypocrites who are sexual deviates but afraid to admit it. They have to write laws to protect themselves against raping one another. Man hasn't changed a bit but laws have over the years.

Actually we are slowly through evolution and education becoming a more intelligent, advanced society. Hence life expectancy is higher and crime rates lower. The people making the laws are not doing it to protect themselves. How silly you are! If they wanted to carry out rape then they would not want a law condemning rapists to prison! : :

If that was true, then we wouldn't need any laws to protect women and children from rapists and incest. You simply don't understand that man has not changed at all. Only the laws change.

Men being men and women this time ? : :

Man was created both MALE and FEMALE. This explains homosexuality and all the other sexual orientations that confuse most people.
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3/23/2016 8:48:21 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 3/23/2016 8:45:07 PM, Deb-8-A-Bull wrote:
At 3/23/2016 8:34:32 PM, nonwo wrote:
At 3/23/2016 8:28:33 PM, Chloe8 wrote:
At 3/23/2016 8:08:33 PM, nonwo wrote:
At 3/23/2016 8:04:29 PM, Chloe8 wrote:
At 3/23/2016 7:54:50 PM, nonwo wrote:
At 3/23/2016 7:51:53 PM, Chloe8 wrote:
At 3/23/2016 7:42:22 PM, nonwo wrote:
At 3/23/2016 7:39:40 PM, Chloe8 wrote:
The Bible"s attitude to sex reveals it was written by primitive tribesmen, not a god

The way the Bible treats sex is a valuable clue as to its origins. The following list is taken from:

https://wisesloth.wordpress.com...

If you have a wet dream you have to leave your camp for a fortnight until you"re "clean."
When a women is having her menstrual cycle she"s "unclean," and if a man touches anything she"s touched during her menstrual cycle he"ll become unclean as well and have to purify himself before God.
Yahweh killed Onan for "spilling his seed"
Lot"s daughter"s got him drunk and raped him, and this was okay.
Lot let an angry mob gang rape his daughters, and this pleased Yahweh.
Several Biblical characters married their cousins.
Fathers sold their daughters, and Yahweh wrote specific instructions for how to do this.
Yahweh wrote specific instructions for how a rapists is supposed to buy the women he rapes.
Yahweh lists women as property not to be coveted.
Yahweh told Paul that women should obey their husbands, be silent in church and not wear expensive jewelry.
Jesus said it"s better to rush into a lifelong marriage than to the have casual sex (probably because Yahweh said to stone adulteresses to death).
It is revealing that the sexual ethics in the Bible are consistent with the prevailing morality of the times in which it was written, but pathetically primitive when compared to modern times. Why would this be so if the Bible was the word of an all-knowing god who should have been aware of the future evolution of civilization? Why are modern-day sexual ethics superior to those God allegedly prescribed a few thousand years ago? Both of these questions can be answered by acknowledging that the Bible was written by men, mired in their own primitive times, and without ANY supernatural inspiration. : :

I'm sure you kind find all these primitive attitudes towards sex somewhere in the world today. Not all of us are reformed from those primitive tendencies.

Im sure you could find these attitudes in the most primitive of places. However this just reinforces my point. Modern society completely rejects them. Why would such a clever god act like bronze age tribesmen? : :

Modern society doesn't reject them. Modern society is made up of many primitive thinking individuals who wish they could practice such attitudes towards sex. It's the laws that would put them in prison which makes most of them keep their practices at a minimum.

Wrong. Most people in modern society reject primitive biblical attitudes towards sex. If this was not the case laws preventing many currently illegal sexual acts would not be in place. Laws are implemented in democracies because of a majority consensus. : :

Laws are written by hypocrites who are sexual deviates but afraid to admit it. They have to write laws to protect themselves against raping one another. Man hasn't changed a bit but laws have over the years.

Actually we are slowly through evolution and education becoming a more intelligent, advanced society. Hence life expectancy is higher and crime rates lower. The people making the laws are not doing it to protect themselves. How silly you are! If they wanted to carry out rape then they would not want a law condemning rapists to prison! : :

If that was true, then we wouldn't need any laws to protect women and children from rapists and incest. You simply don't understand that man has not changed at all. Only the laws change.

Men being men and women this time ? : :

In Paradise, you will awaken with a partner of the opposite sex but you will be of one mind and always experience every dream together.
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3/23/2016 8:49:05 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 3/23/2016 8:46:49 PM, nonwo wrote:
At 3/23/2016 8:45:07 PM, Deb-8-A-Bull wrote:
At 3/23/2016 8:34:32 PM, nonwo wrote:
At 3/23/2016 8:28:33 PM, Chloe8 wrote:
At 3/23/2016 8:08:33 PM, nonwo wrote:
At 3/23/2016 8:04:29 PM, Chloe8 wrote:
At 3/23/2016 7:54:50 PM, nonwo wrote:
At 3/23/2016 7:51:53 PM, Chloe8 wrote:
At 3/23/2016 7:42:22 PM, nonwo wrote:
At 3/23/2016 7:39:40 PM, Chloe8 wrote:
The Bible"s attitude to sex reveals it was written by primitive tribesmen, not a god

The way the Bible treats sex is a valuable clue as to its origins. The following list is taken from:

https://wisesloth.wordpress.com...

If you have a wet dream you have to leave your camp for a fortnight until you"re "clean."
When a women is having her menstrual cycle she"s "unclean," and if a man touches anything she"s touched during her menstrual cycle he"ll become unclean as well and have to purify himself before God.
Yahweh killed Onan for "spilling his seed"
Lot"s daughter"s got him drunk and raped him, and this was okay.
Lot let an angry mob gang rape his daughters, and this pleased Yahweh.
Several Biblical characters married their cousins.
Fathers sold their daughters, and Yahweh wrote specific instructions for how to do this.
Yahweh wrote specific instructions for how a rapists is supposed to buy the women he rapes.
Yahweh lists women as property not to be coveted.
Yahweh told Paul that women should obey their husbands, be silent in church and not wear expensive jewelry.
Jesus said it"s better to rush into a lifelong marriage than to the have casual sex (probably because Yahweh said to stone adulteresses to death).
It is revealing that the sexual ethics in the Bible are consistent with the prevailing morality of the times in which it was written, but pathetically primitive when compared to modern times. Why would this be so if the Bible was the word of an all-knowing god who should have been aware of the future evolution of civilization? Why are modern-day sexual ethics superior to those God allegedly prescribed a few thousand years ago? Both of these questions can be answered by acknowledging that the Bible was written by men, mired in their own primitive times, and without ANY supernatural inspiration. : :

I'm sure you kind find all these primitive attitudes towards sex somewhere in the world today. Not all of us are reformed from those primitive tendencies.

Im sure you could find these attitudes in the most primitive of places. However this just reinforces my point. Modern society completely rejects them. Why would such a clever god act like bronze age tribesmen? : :

Modern society doesn't reject them. Modern society is made up of many primitive thinking individuals who wish they could practice such attitudes towards sex. It's the laws that would put them in prison which makes most of them keep their practices at a minimum.

Wrong. Most people in modern society reject primitive biblical attitudes towards sex. If this was not the case laws preventing many currently illegal sexual acts would not be in place. Laws are implemented in democracies because of a majority consensus. : :

Laws are written by hypocrites who are sexual deviates but afraid to admit it. They have to write laws to protect themselves against raping one another. Man hasn't changed a bit but laws have over the years.

Actually we are slowly through evolution and education becoming a more intelligent, advanced society. Hence life expectancy is higher and crime rates lower. The people making the laws are not doing it to protect themselves. How silly you are! If they wanted to carry out rape then they would not want a law condemning rapists to prison! : :

If that was true, then we wouldn't need any laws to protect women and children from rapists and incest. You simply don't understand that man has not changed at all. Only the laws change.

Men being men and women this time ? : :

Man was created both MALE and FEMALE. This explains homosexuality and all the other sexual orientations that confuse most people.

Oh ok I got it now. Hey with all the different and new version bibles is there 1 with no scripture , just the real meaning ?
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3/23/2016 8:50:41 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 3/23/2016 8:49:05 PM, Deb-8-A-Bull wrote:
At 3/23/2016 8:46:49 PM, nonwo wrote:
At 3/23/2016 8:45:07 PM, Deb-8-A-Bull wrote:
At 3/23/2016 8:34:32 PM, nonwo wrote:
At 3/23/2016 8:28:33 PM, Chloe8 wrote:
At 3/23/2016 8:08:33 PM, nonwo wrote:
At 3/23/2016 8:04:29 PM, Chloe8 wrote:
At 3/23/2016 7:54:50 PM, nonwo wrote:
At 3/23/2016 7:51:53 PM, Chloe8 wrote:
At 3/23/2016 7:42:22 PM, nonwo wrote:
At 3/23/2016 7:39:40 PM, Chloe8 wrote:
The Bible"s attitude to sex reveals it was written by primitive tribesmen, not a god

The way the Bible treats sex is a valuable clue as to its origins. The following list is taken from:

https://wisesloth.wordpress.com...

If you have a wet dream you have to leave your camp for a fortnight until you"re "clean."
When a women is having her menstrual cycle she"s "unclean," and if a man touches anything she"s touched during her menstrual cycle he"ll become unclean as well and have to purify himself before God.
Yahweh killed Onan for "spilling his seed"
Lot"s daughter"s got him drunk and raped him, and this was okay.
Lot let an angry mob gang rape his daughters, and this pleased Yahweh.
Several Biblical characters married their cousins.
Fathers sold their daughters, and Yahweh wrote specific instructions for how to do this.
Yahweh wrote specific instructions for how a rapists is supposed to buy the women he rapes.
Yahweh lists women as property not to be coveted.
Yahweh told Paul that women should obey their husbands, be silent in church and not wear expensive jewelry.
Jesus said it"s better to rush into a lifelong marriage than to the have casual sex (probably because Yahweh said to stone adulteresses to death).
It is revealing that the sexual ethics in the Bible are consistent with the prevailing morality of the times in which it was written, but pathetically primitive when compared to modern times. Why would this be so if the Bible was the word of an all-knowing god who should have been aware of the future evolution of civilization? Why are modern-day sexual ethics superior to those God allegedly prescribed a few thousand years ago? Both of these questions can be answered by acknowledging that the Bible was written by men, mired in their own primitive times, and without ANY supernatural inspiration. : :

I'm sure you kind find all these primitive attitudes towards sex somewhere in the world today. Not all of us are reformed from those primitive tendencies.

Im sure you could find these attitudes in the most primitive of places. However this just reinforces my point. Modern society completely rejects them. Why would such a clever god act like bronze age tribesmen? : :

Modern society doesn't reject them. Modern society is made up of many primitive thinking individuals who wish they could practice such attitudes towards sex. It's the laws that would put them in prison which makes most of them keep their practices at a minimum.

Wrong. Most people in modern society reject primitive biblical attitudes towards sex. If this was not the case laws preventing many currently illegal sexual acts would not be in place. Laws are implemented in democracies because of a majority consensus. : :

Laws are written by hypocrites who are sexual deviates but afraid to admit it. They have to write laws to protect themselves against raping one another. Man hasn't changed a bit but laws have over the years.

Actually we are slowly through evolution and education becoming a more intelligent, advanced society. Hence life expectancy is higher and crime rates lower. The people making the laws are not doing it to protect themselves. How silly you are! If they wanted to carry out rape then they would not want a law condemning rapists to prison! : :

If that was true, then we wouldn't need any laws to protect women and children from rapists and incest. You simply don't understand that man has not changed at all. Only the laws change.

Men being men and women this time ? : :

Man was created both MALE and FEMALE. This explains homosexuality and all the other sexual orientations that confuse most people.

Oh ok I got it now. Hey with all the different and new version bibles is there 1 with no scripture , just the real meaning ? : :

All you have to do is listen to the Voice of God and obey all his commandments ( knowledge ).
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3/23/2016 8:54:11 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 3/23/2016 8:50:41 PM, nonwo wrote:
At 3/23/2016 8:49:05 PM, Deb-8-A-Bull wrote:
At 3/23/2016 8:46:49 PM, nonwo wrote:
At 3/23/2016 8:45:07 PM, Deb-8-A-Bull wrote:
At 3/23/2016 8:34:32 PM, nonwo wrote:
At 3/23/2016 8:28:33 PM, Chloe8 wrote:
At 3/23/2016 8:08:33 PM, nonwo wrote:
At 3/23/2016 8:04:29 PM, Chloe8 wrote:
At 3/23/2016 7:54:50 PM, nonwo wrote:
At 3/23/2016 7:51:53 PM, Chloe8 wrote:
At 3/23/2016 7:42:22 PM, nonwo wrote:
At 3/23/2016 7:39:40 PM, Chloe8 wrote:
The Bible"s attitude to sex reveals it was written by primitive tribesmen, not a god

The way the Bible treats sex is a valuable clue as to its origins. The following list is taken from:

https://wisesloth.wordpress.com...

If you have a wet dream you have to leave your camp for a fortnight until you"re "clean."
When a women is having her menstrual cycle she"s "unclean," and if a man touches anything she"s touched during her menstrual cycle he"ll become unclean as well and have to purify himself before God.
Yahweh killed Onan for "spilling his seed"
Lot"s daughter"s got him drunk and raped him, and this was okay.
Lot let an angry mob gang rape his daughters, and this pleased Yahweh.
Several Biblical characters married their cousins.
Fathers sold their daughters, and Yahweh wrote specific instructions for how to do this.
Yahweh wrote specific instructions for how a rapists is supposed to buy the women he rapes.
Yahweh lists women as property not to be coveted.
Yahweh told Paul that women should obey their husbands, be silent in church and not wear expensive jewelry.
Jesus said it"s better to rush into a lifelong marriage than to the have casual sex (probably because Yahweh said to stone adulteresses to death).
It is revealing that the sexual ethics in the Bible are consistent with the prevailing morality of the times in which it was written, but pathetically primitive when compared to modern times. Why would this be so if the Bible was the word of an all-knowing god who should have been aware of the future evolution of civilization? Why are modern-day sexual ethics superior to those God allegedly prescribed a few thousand years ago? Both of these questions can be answered by acknowledging that the Bible was written by men, mired in their own primitive times, and without ANY supernatural inspiration. : :

I'm sure you kind find all these primitive attitudes towards sex somewhere in the world today. Not all of us are reformed from those primitive tendencies.

Im sure you could find these attitudes in the most primitive of places. However this just reinforces my point. Modern society completely rejects them. Why would such a clever god act like bronze age tribesmen? : :

Modern society doesn't reject them. Modern society is made up of many primitive thinking individuals who wish they could practice such attitudes towards sex. It's the laws that would put them in prison which makes most of them keep their practices at a minimum.

Wrong. Most people in modern society reject primitive biblical attitudes towards sex. If this was not the case laws preventing many currently illegal sexual acts would not be in place. Laws are implemented in democracies because of a majority consensus. : :

Laws are written by hypocrites who are sexual deviates but afraid to admit it. They have to write laws to protect themselves against raping one another. Man hasn't changed a bit but laws have over the years.

Actually we are slowly through evolution and education becoming a more intelligent, advanced society. Hence life expectancy is higher and crime rates lower. The people making the laws are not doing it to protect themselves. How silly you are! If they wanted to carry out rape then they would not want a law condemning rapists to prison! : :

If that was true, then we wouldn't need any laws to protect women and children from rapists and incest. You simply don't understand that man has not changed at all. Only the laws change.

Men being men and women this time ? : :

Man was created both MALE and FEMALE. This explains homosexuality and all the other sexual orientations that confuse most people.

Oh ok I got it now. Hey with all the different and new version bibles is there 1 with no scripture , just the real meaning ? : :

All you have to do is listen to the Voice of God and obey all his commandments ( knowledge ).

Ah just listen but don't tell. It seems when god spoke to people back in the days. They put it straight in the bible . If God speaks to someone now you get put in a special ward. For evaluations?
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3/23/2016 9:05:13 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 3/23/2016 8:50:41 PM, nonwo wrote:
At 3/23/2016 8:49:05 PM, Deb-8-A-Bull wrote:
At 3/23/2016 8:46:49 PM, nonwo wrote:
At 3/23/2016 8:45:07 PM, Deb-8-A-Bull wrote:
At 3/23/2016 8:34:32 PM, nonwo wrote:
At 3/23/2016 8:28:33 PM, Chloe8 wrote:
At 3/23/2016 8:08:33 PM, nonwo wrote:
At 3/23/2016 8:04:29 PM, Chloe8 wrote:
At 3/23/2016 7:54:50 PM, nonwo wrote:
At 3/23/2016 7:51:53 PM, Chloe8 wrote:
At 3/23/2016 7:42:22 PM, nonwo wrote:
At 3/23/2016 7:39:40 PM, Chloe8 wrote:
The Bible"s attitude to sex reveals it was written by primitive tribesmen, not a god

The way the Bible treats sex is a valuable clue as to its origins. The following list is taken from:

https://wisesloth.wordpress.com...

If you have a wet dream you have to leave your camp for a fortnight until you"re "clean."
When a women is having her menstrual cycle she"s "unclean," and if a man touches anything she"s touched during her menstrual cycle he"ll become unclean as well and have to purify himself before God.
Yahweh killed Onan for "spilling his seed"
Lot"s daughter"s got him drunk and raped him, and this was okay.
Lot let an angry mob gang rape his daughters, and this pleased Yahweh.
Several Biblical characters married their cousins.
Fathers sold their daughters, and Yahweh wrote specific instructions for how to do this.
Yahweh wrote specific instructions for how a rapists is supposed to buy the women he rapes.
Yahweh lists women as property not to be coveted.
Yahweh told Paul that women should obey their husbands, be silent in church and not wear expensive jewelry.
Jesus said it"s better to rush into a lifelong marriage than to the have casual sex (probably because Yahweh said to stone adulteresses to death).
It is revealing that the sexual ethics in the Bible are consistent with the prevailing morality of the times in which it was written, but pathetically primitive when compared to modern times. Why would this be so if the Bible was the word of an all-knowing god who should have been aware of the future evolution of civilization? Why are modern-day sexual ethics superior to those God allegedly prescribed a few thousand years ago? Both of these questions can be answered by acknowledging that the Bible was written by men, mired in their own primitive times, and without ANY supernatural inspiration. : :

I'm sure you kind find all these primitive attitudes towards sex somewhere in the world today. Not all of us are reformed from those primitive tendencies.

Im sure you could find these attitudes in the most primitive of places. However this just reinforces my point. Modern society completely rejects them. Why would such a clever god act like bronze age tribesmen? : :

Modern society doesn't reject them. Modern society is made up of many primitive thinking individuals who wish they could practice such attitudes towards sex. It's the laws that would put them in prison which makes most of them keep their practices at a minimum.

Wrong. Most people in modern society reject primitive biblical attitudes towards sex. If this was not the case laws preventing many currently illegal sexual acts would not be in place. Laws are implemented in democracies because of a majority consensus. : :

Laws are written by hypocrites who are sexual deviates but afraid to admit it. They have to write laws to protect themselves against raping one another. Man hasn't changed a bit but laws have over the years.

Actually we are slowly through evolution and education becoming a more intelligent, advanced society. Hence life expectancy is higher and crime rates lower. The people making the laws are not doing it to protect themselves. How silly you are! If they wanted to carry out rape then they would not want a law condemning rapists to prison! : :

If that was true, then we wouldn't need any laws to protect women and children from rapists and incest. You simply don't understand that man has not changed at all. Only the laws change.

Men being men and women this time ? : :

Man was created both MALE and FEMALE. This explains homosexuality and all the other sexual orientations that confuse most people.

Oh ok I got it now. Hey with all the different and new version bibles is there 1 with no scripture , just the real meaning ? : :

All you have to do is listen to the Voice of God and obey all his commandments ( knowledge ).

#1 tho shall not put a god before me ?
As a theist I promise never to put a god above your god.
But heaps of other religions do. And if your god is the 1 true God , the other groups are running around with fake gods in there heads. And they also have big books full of stuff there god wants and expects. Crazy times hey. I mean what are they going to make their god tell em next.
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3/23/2016 9:06:11 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 3/23/2016 9:05:13 PM, Deb-8-A-Bull wrote:
At 3/23/2016 8:50:41 PM, nonwo wrote:
At 3/23/2016 8:49:05 PM, Deb-8-A-Bull wrote:
At 3/23/2016 8:46:49 PM, nonwo wrote:
At 3/23/2016 8:45:07 PM, Deb-8-A-Bull wrote:
At 3/23/2016 8:34:32 PM, nonwo wrote:
At 3/23/2016 8:28:33 PM, Chloe8 wrote:
At 3/23/2016 8:08:33 PM, nonwo wrote:
At 3/23/2016 8:04:29 PM, Chloe8 wrote:
At 3/23/2016 7:54:50 PM, nonwo wrote:
At 3/23/2016 7:51:53 PM, Chloe8 wrote:
At 3/23/2016 7:42:22 PM, nonwo wrote:
At 3/23/2016 7:39:40 PM, Chloe8 wrote:
The Bible"s attitude to sex reveals it was written by primitive tribesmen, not a god

The way the Bible treats sex is a valuable clue as to its origins. The following list is taken from:

https://wisesloth.wordpress.com...

If you have a wet dream you have to leave your camp for a fortnight until you"re "clean."
When a women is having her menstrual cycle she"s "unclean," and if a man touches anything she"s touched during her menstrual cycle he"ll become unclean as well and have to purify himself before God.
Yahweh killed Onan for "spilling his seed"
Lot"s daughter"s got him drunk and raped him, and this was okay.
Lot let an angry mob gang rape his daughters, and this pleased Yahweh.
Several Biblical characters married their cousins.
Fathers sold their daughters, and Yahweh wrote specific instructions for how to do this.
Yahweh wrote specific instructions for how a rapists is supposed to buy the women he rapes.
Yahweh lists women as property not to be coveted.
Yahweh told Paul that women should obey their husbands, be silent in church and not wear expensive jewelry.
Jesus said it"s better to rush into a lifelong marriage than to the have casual sex (probably because Yahweh said to stone adulteresses to death).
It is revealing that the sexual ethics in the Bible are consistent with the prevailing morality of the times in which it was written, but pathetically primitive when compared to modern times. Why would this be so if the Bible was the word of an all-knowing god who should have been aware of the future evolution of civilization? Why are modern-day sexual ethics superior to those God allegedly prescribed a few thousand years ago? Both of these questions can be answered by acknowledging that the Bible was written by men, mired in their own primitive times, and without ANY supernatural inspiration. : :

I'm sure you kind find all these primitive attitudes towards sex somewhere in the world today. Not all of us are reformed from those primitive tendencies.

Im sure you could find these attitudes in the most primitive of places. However this just reinforces my point. Modern society completely rejects them. Why would such a clever god act like bronze age tribesmen? : :

Modern society doesn't reject them. Modern society is made up of many primitive thinking individuals who wish they could practice such attitudes towards sex. It's the laws that would put them in prison which makes most of them keep their practices at a minimum.

Wrong. Most people in modern society reject primitive biblical attitudes towards sex. If this was not the case laws preventing many currently illegal sexual acts would not be in place. Laws are implemented in democracies because of a majority consensus. : :

Laws are written by hypocrites who are sexual deviates but afraid to admit it. They have to write laws to protect themselves against raping one another. Man hasn't changed a bit but laws have over the years.

Actually we are slowly through evolution and education becoming a more intelligent, advanced society. Hence life expectancy is higher and crime rates lower. The people making the laws are not doing it to protect themselves. How silly you are! If they wanted to carry out rape then they would not want a law condemning rapists to prison! : :

If that was true, then we wouldn't need any laws to protect women and children from rapists and incest. You simply don't understand that man has not changed at all. Only the laws change.

Men being men and women this time ? : :

Man was created both MALE and FEMALE. This explains homosexuality and all the other sexual orientations that confuse most people.

Oh ok I got it now. Hey with all the different and new version bibles is there 1 with no scripture , just the real meaning ? : :

All you have to do is listen to the Voice of God and obey all his commandments ( knowledge ).

#1 tho shall not put a god before me ?
As a theist I promise never to put a god above your god.
But heaps of other religions do. And if your god is the 1 true God , the other groups are running around with fake gods in there heads. And they also have big books full of stuff there god wants and expects. Crazy times hey. I mean what are they going to make their god tell em next.

That's as a atheist
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3/23/2016 9:06:38 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 3/23/2016 8:54:11 PM, Deb-8-A-Bull wrote:
At 3/23/2016 8:50:41 PM, nonwo wrote:
At 3/23/2016 8:49:05 PM, Deb-8-A-Bull wrote:
At 3/23/2016 8:46:49 PM, nonwo wrote:
At 3/23/2016 8:45:07 PM, Deb-8-A-Bull wrote:
At 3/23/2016 8:34:32 PM, nonwo wrote:
At 3/23/2016 8:28:33 PM, Chloe8 wrote:
At 3/23/2016 8:08:33 PM, nonwo wrote:
At 3/23/2016 8:04:29 PM, Chloe8 wrote:
At 3/23/2016 7:54:50 PM, nonwo wrote:
At 3/23/2016 7:51:53 PM, Chloe8 wrote:
At 3/23/2016 7:42:22 PM, nonwo wrote:
At 3/23/2016 7:39:40 PM, Chloe8 wrote:
The Bible"s attitude to sex reveals it was written by primitive tribesmen, not a god

The way the Bible treats sex is a valuable clue as to its origins. The following list is taken from:

https://wisesloth.wordpress.com...

If you have a wet dream you have to leave your camp for a fortnight until you"re "clean."
When a women is having her menstrual cycle she"s "unclean," and if a man touches anything she"s touched during her menstrual cycle he"ll become unclean as well and have to purify himself before God.
Yahweh killed Onan for "spilling his seed"
Lot"s daughter"s got him drunk and raped him, and this was okay.
Lot let an angry mob gang rape his daughters, and this pleased Yahweh.
Several Biblical characters married their cousins.
Fathers sold their daughters, and Yahweh wrote specific instructions for how to do this.
Yahweh wrote specific instructions for how a rapists is supposed to buy the women he rapes.
Yahweh lists women as property not to be coveted.
Yahweh told Paul that women should obey their husbands, be silent in church and not wear expensive jewelry.
Jesus said it"s better to rush into a lifelong marriage than to the have casual sex (probably because Yahweh said to stone adulteresses to death).
It is revealing that the sexual ethics in the Bible are consistent with the prevailing morality of the times in which it was written, but pathetically primitive when compared to modern times. Why would this be so if the Bible was the word of an all-knowing god who should have been aware of the future evolution of civilization? Why are modern-day sexual ethics superior to those God allegedly prescribed a few thousand years ago? Both of these questions can be answered by acknowledging that the Bible was written by men, mired in their own primitive times, and without ANY supernatural inspiration. : :

I'm sure you kind find all these primitive attitudes towards sex somewhere in the world today. Not all of us are reformed from those primitive tendencies.

Im sure you could find these attitudes in the most primitive of places. However this just reinforces my point. Modern society completely rejects them. Why would such a clever god act like bronze age tribesmen? : :

Modern society doesn't reject them. Modern society is made up of many primitive thinking individuals who wish they could practice such attitudes towards sex. It's the laws that would put them in prison which makes most of them keep their practices at a minimum.

Wrong. Most people in modern society reject primitive biblical attitudes towards sex. If this was not the case laws preventing many currently illegal sexual acts would not be in place. Laws are implemented in democracies because of a majority consensus. : :

Laws are written by hypocrites who are sexual deviates but afraid to admit it. They have to write laws to protect themselves against raping one another. Man hasn't changed a bit but laws have over the years.

Actually we are slowly through evolution and education becoming a more intelligent, advanced society. Hence life expectancy is higher and crime rates lower. The people making the laws are not doing it to protect themselves. How silly you are! If they wanted to carry out rape then they would not want a law condemning rapists to prison! : :

If that was true, then we wouldn't need any laws to protect women and children from rapists and incest. You simply don't understand that man has not changed at all. Only the laws change.

Men being men and women this time ? : :

Man was created both MALE and FEMALE. This explains homosexuality and all the other sexual orientations that confuse most people.

Oh ok I got it now. Hey with all the different and new version bibles is there 1 with no scripture , just the real meaning ? : :

All you have to do is listen to the Voice of God and obey all his commandments ( knowledge ).

Ah just listen but don't tell. It seems when god spoke to people back in the days. They put it straight in the bible . If God speaks to someone now you get put in a special ward. For evaluations? : :

None of the original writings by God's prophets and saints went straight into the Bible. Religious people stole those writings and spoken words by God's prophets and saints and added their religious traditions and pagan teachings to them. They destroyed most of the original writings by the saints because they didn't understand any of them.
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3/23/2016 9:11:06 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 3/23/2016 9:05:13 PM, Deb-8-A-Bull wrote:
At 3/23/2016 8:50:41 PM, nonwo wrote:
At 3/23/2016 8:49:05 PM, Deb-8-A-Bull wrote:
At 3/23/2016 8:46:49 PM, nonwo wrote:
At 3/23/2016 8:45:07 PM, Deb-8-A-Bull wrote:
At 3/23/2016 8:34:32 PM, nonwo wrote:
At 3/23/2016 8:28:33 PM, Chloe8 wrote:
At 3/23/2016 8:08:33 PM, nonwo wrote:
At 3/23/2016 8:04:29 PM, Chloe8 wrote:
At 3/23/2016 7:54:50 PM, nonwo wrote:
At 3/23/2016 7:51:53 PM, Chloe8 wrote:
At 3/23/2016 7:42:22 PM, nonwo wrote:
At 3/23/2016 7:39:40 PM, Chloe8 wrote:
The Bible"s attitude to sex reveals it was written by primitive tribesmen, not a god

The way the Bible treats sex is a valuable clue as to its origins. The following list is taken from:

https://wisesloth.wordpress.com...

If you have a wet dream you have to leave your camp for a fortnight until you"re "clean."
When a women is having her menstrual cycle she"s "unclean," and if a man touches anything she"s touched during her menstrual cycle he"ll become unclean as well and have to purify himself before God.
Yahweh killed Onan for "spilling his seed"
Lot"s daughter"s got him drunk and raped him, and this was okay.
Lot let an angry mob gang rape his daughters, and this pleased Yahweh.
Several Biblical characters married their cousins.
Fathers sold their daughters, and Yahweh wrote specific instructions for how to do this.
Yahweh wrote specific instructions for how a rapists is supposed to buy the women he rapes.
Yahweh lists women as property not to be coveted.
Yahweh told Paul that women should obey their husbands, be silent in church and not wear expensive jewelry.
Jesus said it"s better to rush into a lifelong marriage than to the have casual sex (probably because Yahweh said to stone adulteresses to death).
It is revealing that the sexual ethics in the Bible are consistent with the prevailing morality of the times in which it was written, but pathetically primitive when compared to modern times. Why would this be so if the Bible was the word of an all-knowing god who should have been aware of the future evolution of civilization? Why are modern-day sexual ethics superior to those God allegedly prescribed a few thousand years ago? Both of these questions can be answered by acknowledging that the Bible was written by men, mired in their own primitive times, and without ANY supernatural inspiration. : :

I'm sure you kind find all these primitive attitudes towards sex somewhere in the world today. Not all of us are reformed from those primitive tendencies.

Im sure you could find these attitudes in the most primitive of places. However this just reinforces my point. Modern society completely rejects them. Why would such a clever god act like bronze age tribesmen? : :

Modern society doesn't reject them. Modern society is made up of many primitive thinking individuals who wish they could practice such attitudes towards sex. It's the laws that would put them in prison which makes most of them keep their practices at a minimum.

Wrong. Most people in modern society reject primitive biblical attitudes towards sex. If this was not the case laws preventing many currently illegal sexual acts would not be in place. Laws are implemented in democracies because of a majority consensus. : :

Laws are written by hypocrites who are sexual deviates but afraid to admit it. They have to write laws to protect themselves against raping one another. Man hasn't changed a bit but laws have over the years.

Actually we are slowly through evolution and education becoming a more intelligent, advanced society. Hence life expectancy is higher and crime rates lower. The people making the laws are not doing it to protect themselves. How silly you are! If they wanted to carry out rape then they would not want a law condemning rapists to prison! : :

If that was true, then we wouldn't need any laws to protect women and children from rapists and incest. You simply don't understand that man has not changed at all. Only the laws change.

Men being men and women this time ? : :

Man was created both MALE and FEMALE. This explains homosexuality and all the other sexual orientations that confuse most people.

Oh ok I got it now. Hey with all the different and new version bibles is there 1 with no scripture , just the real meaning ? : :

All you have to do is listen to the Voice of God and obey all his commandments ( knowledge ).

#1 tho shall not put a god before me ?
As a theist I promise never to put a god above your god.
But heaps of other religions do. And if your god is the 1 true God , the other groups are running around with fake gods in there heads. And they also have big books full of stuff there god wants and expects. Crazy times hey. I mean what are they going to make their god tell em next. : :

Religious people who have never heard the Voice of God don't understand how the original written words from God's prophets and saints came into being. When they read these original works or the pieces of them that ended up in the Bible they produced, they get imaginary gods formed in their minds. Since they don't that the Voice of God is where we saints and prophets get the words from to write down, these religious people can only imagine where those words come from.
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3/23/2016 9:13:08 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 3/23/2016 7:55:24 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 3/23/2016 7:39:40 PM, Chloe8 wrote:
The Bible"s attitude to sex reveals it was written by primitive tribesmen, not a god

The way the Bible treats sex is a valuable clue as to its origins. The following list is taken from:

https://wisesloth.wordpress.com...

If you have a wet dream you have to leave your camp for a fortnight until you"re "clean."
When a women is having her menstrual cycle she"s "unclean," and if a man touches anything she"s touched during her menstrual cycle he"ll become unclean as well and have to purify himself before God.
Yahweh killed Onan for "spilling his seed"
Lot"s daughter"s got him drunk and raped him, and this was okay.
Lot let an angry mob gang rape his daughters, and this pleased Yahweh.
Several Biblical characters married their cousins.
Fathers sold their daughters, and Yahweh wrote specific instructions for how to do this.
Yahweh wrote specific instructions for how a rapists is supposed to buy the women he rapes.
Yahweh lists women as property not to be coveted.
Yahweh told Paul that women should obey their husbands, be silent in church and not wear expensive jewelry.
Jesus said it"s better to rush into a lifelong marriage than to the have casual sex (probably because Yahweh said to stone adulteresses to death).
It is revealing that the sexual ethics in the Bible are consistent with the prevailing morality of the times in which it was written, but pathetically primitive when compared to modern times. Why would this be so if the Bible was the word of an all-knowing god who should have been aware of the future evolution of civilization? Why are modern-day sexual ethics superior to those God allegedly prescribed a few thousand years ago? Both of these questions can be answered by acknowledging that the Bible was written by men, mired in their own primitive times, and without ANY supernatural inspiration.

Should I take the time to go through and knock these out one by one or just ask for citations and end all debate?

I know right off of the top of my head that Lot's daughters were not raped, nor was God okay with it(seeing they weren't raped).

Jesus never said,"Rush into a marriage"...

Etc, etc, etc...yawn...

God said if you have a wet dream you have to leave your camp until you"re "clean." Deuteronomy 23:10-11
God killed Juda"s son, Er. Then God commanded Er"s brother, Onan, to impregnate his dead brother"s wife. Onan had sex with his sister in law, but he "spilled his seed" outside of her because he didn"t want to get her pregnant. So God killed Onan. Genesis 38: 8-10
Lot let an angry mob gang rape his daughters, and this pleased God. Genesis 19: 1-11
Esau (Genesis 28:6-9), Jacob (Genesis 29:15-28), Elkanah (1 Samuel 1: 1-5), David (1 Samuel 25: 39-43) and Solomon owned multiple wives (1 Kings 11:1-3).
God left specific instructions on how daughters are to be sold to their husbands by their fathers. (Deuteronomy 22: 13-29)
God lists women as property not to be coveted. (Exodus 20:17)
God told Paul that women should obey their husbands, be silent in church and not wear expensive jewelry.(1 Corinthians 14: 34-38)
God said that anyone who has sex with an immediate family member or animal must be put to death, and if a man has sex with a woman while she"s on her period, then both of them must be exiled. (Leviticus 20: 11-19)
"I don't need experience.to knock you out. I'm a man. that's all I need to beat you and any woman."

Fatihah, in his delusion that he could knock out any woman while bragging about being able to knock me out. An example of 7th century Islamic thinking inspired by his hero the paedophile Muhammad.
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3/23/2016 9:14:02 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 3/23/2016 8:30:33 PM, Mhykiel wrote:
At 3/23/2016 7:39:40 PM, Chloe8 wrote:
The Bible"s attitude to sex reveals it was written by primitive tribesmen, not a god

The way the Bible treats sex is a valuable clue as to its origins. The following list is taken from:

https://wisesloth.wordpress.com...

If you have a wet dream you have to leave your camp for a fortnight until you"re "clean."
When a women is having her menstrual cycle she"s "unclean," and if a man touches anything she"s touched during her menstrual cycle he"ll become unclean as well and have to purify himself before God.
Yahweh killed Onan for "spilling his seed"
Lot"s daughter"s got him drunk and raped him, and this was okay.
Lot let an angry mob gang rape his daughters, and this pleased Yahweh.
Several Biblical characters married their cousins.
Fathers sold their daughters, and Yahweh wrote specific instructions for how to do this.
Yahweh wrote specific instructions for how a rapists is supposed to buy the women he rapes.
Yahweh lists women as property not to be coveted.
Yahweh told Paul that women should obey their husbands, be silent in church and not wear expensive jewelry.
Jesus said it"s better to rush into a lifelong marriage than to the have casual sex (probably because Yahweh said to stone adulteresses to death).
It is revealing that the sexual ethics in the Bible are consistent with the prevailing morality of the times in which it was written, but pathetically primitive when compared to modern times. Why would this be so if the Bible was the word of an all-knowing god who should have been aware of the future evolution of civilization? Why are modern-day sexual ethics superior to those God allegedly prescribed a few thousand years ago? Both of these questions can be answered by acknowledging that the Bible was written by men, mired in their own primitive times, and without ANY supernatural inspiration.

Cite the biblical passages confirming your statements. I stopped reading after 5 because they were so off.

And yet again primitive doesn't mean wrong. If these are wrong please enlightnen us with what you think is right.

In fact from now on why don't you just post what you think is right and forget the whole erroneous bible says 'this' stuff.

God said if you have a wet dream you have to leave your camp until you"re "clean." Deuteronomy 23:10-11
God killed Juda"s son, Er. Then God commanded Er"s brother, Onan, to impregnate his dead brother"s wife. Onan had sex with his sister in law, but he "spilled his seed" outside of her because he didn"t want to get her pregnant. So God killed Onan. Genesis 38: 8-10
Lot let an angry mob gang rape his daughters, and this pleased God. Genesis 19: 1-11
Esau (Genesis 28:6-9), Jacob (Genesis 29:15-28), Elkanah (1 Samuel 1: 1-5), David (1 Samuel 25: 39-43) and Solomon owned multiple wives (1 Kings 11:1-3).
God left specific instructions on how daughters are to be sold to their husbands by their fathers. (Deuteronomy 22: 13-29)
God lists women as property not to be coveted. (Exodus 20:17)
God told Paul that women should obey their husbands, be silent in church and not wear expensive jewelry.(1 Corinthians 14: 34-38)
God said that anyone who has sex with an immediate family member or animal must be put to death, and if a man has sex with a woman while she"s on her period, then both of them must be exiled. (Leviticus 20: 11-19)
"I don't need experience.to knock you out. I'm a man. that's all I need to beat you and any woman."

Fatihah, in his delusion that he could knock out any woman while bragging about being able to knock me out. An example of 7th century Islamic thinking inspired by his hero the paedophile Muhammad.
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3/23/2016 9:17:26 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 3/23/2016 8:34:32 PM, nonwo wrote:
At 3/23/2016 8:28:33 PM, Chloe8 wrote:
At 3/23/2016 8:08:33 PM, nonwo wrote:
At 3/23/2016 8:04:29 PM, Chloe8 wrote:
At 3/23/2016 7:54:50 PM, nonwo wrote:
At 3/23/2016 7:51:53 PM, Chloe8 wrote:
At 3/23/2016 7:42:22 PM, nonwo wrote:
At 3/23/2016 7:39:40 PM, Chloe8 wrote:
The Bible"s attitude to sex reveals it was written by primitive tribesmen, not a god

The way the Bible treats sex is a valuable clue as to its origins. The following list is taken from:

https://wisesloth.wordpress.com...

If you have a wet dream you have to leave your camp for a fortnight until you"re "clean."
When a women is having her menstrual cycle she"s "unclean," and if a man touches anything she"s touched during her menstrual cycle he"ll become unclean as well and have to purify himself before God.
Yahweh killed Onan for "spilling his seed"
Lot"s daughter"s got him drunk and raped him, and this was okay.
Lot let an angry mob gang rape his daughters, and this pleased Yahweh.
Several Biblical characters married their cousins.
Fathers sold their daughters, and Yahweh wrote specific instructions for how to do this.
Yahweh wrote specific instructions for how a rapists is supposed to buy the women he rapes.
Yahweh lists women as property not to be coveted.
Yahweh told Paul that women should obey their husbands, be silent in church and not wear expensive jewelry.
Jesus said it"s better to rush into a lifelong marriage than to the have casual sex (probably because Yahweh said to stone adulteresses to death).
It is revealing that the sexual ethics in the Bible are consistent with the prevailing morality of the times in which it was written, but pathetically primitive when compared to modern times. Why would this be so if the Bible was the word of an all-knowing god who should have been aware of the future evolution of civilization? Why are modern-day sexual ethics superior to those God allegedly prescribed a few thousand years ago? Both of these questions can be answered by acknowledging that the Bible was written by men, mired in their own primitive times, and without ANY supernatural inspiration. : :

I'm sure you kind find all these primitive attitudes towards sex somewhere in the world today. Not all of us are reformed from those primitive tendencies.

Im sure you could find these attitudes in the most primitive of places. However this just reinforces my point. Modern society completely rejects them. Why would such a clever god act like bronze age tribesmen? : :

Modern society doesn't reject them. Modern society is made up of many primitive thinking individuals who wish they could practice such attitudes towards sex. It's the laws that would put them in prison which makes most of them keep their practices at a minimum.

Wrong. Most people in modern society reject primitive biblical attitudes towards sex. If this was not the case laws preventing many currently illegal sexual acts would not be in place. Laws are implemented in democracies because of a majority consensus. : :

Laws are written by hypocrites who are sexual deviates but afraid to admit it. They have to write laws to protect themselves against raping one another. Man hasn't changed a bit but laws have over the years.

Actually we are slowly through evolution and education becoming a more intelligent, advanced society. Hence life expectancy is higher and crime rates lower. The people making the laws are not doing it to protect themselves. How silly you are! If they wanted to carry out rape then they would not want a law condemning rapists to prison! : :

If that was true, then we wouldn't need any laws to protect women and children from rapists and incest. You simply don't understand that man has not changed at all. Only the laws change.

I don't deny some men want to rape women and abuse children. It's right laws are in place to stop such activities. However only a very small minority of men would want to act in such a way even if the laws preventing such activities didn't exist.
"I don't need experience.to knock you out. I'm a man. that's all I need to beat you and any woman."

Fatihah, in his delusion that he could knock out any woman while bragging about being able to knock me out. An example of 7th century Islamic thinking inspired by his hero the paedophile Muhammad.
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3/23/2016 9:17:44 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 3/23/2016 9:13:08 PM, Chloe8 wrote:
At 3/23/2016 7:55:24 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 3/23/2016 7:39:40 PM, Chloe8 wrote:
The Bible"s attitude to sex reveals it was written by primitive tribesmen, not a god

The way the Bible treats sex is a valuable clue as to its origins. The following list is taken from:

https://wisesloth.wordpress.com...

If you have a wet dream you have to leave your camp for a fortnight until you"re "clean."
When a women is having her menstrual cycle she"s "unclean," and if a man touches anything she"s touched during her menstrual cycle he"ll become unclean as well and have to purify himself before God.
Yahweh killed Onan for "spilling his seed"
Lot"s daughter"s got him drunk and raped him, and this was okay.
Lot let an angry mob gang rape his daughters, and this pleased Yahweh.
Several Biblical characters married their cousins.
Fathers sold their daughters, and Yahweh wrote specific instructions for how to do this.
Yahweh wrote specific instructions for how a rapists is supposed to buy the women he rapes.
Yahweh lists women as property not to be coveted.
Yahweh told Paul that women should obey their husbands, be silent in church and not wear expensive jewelry.
Jesus said it"s better to rush into a lifelong marriage than to the have casual sex (probably because Yahweh said to stone adulteresses to death).
It is revealing that the sexual ethics in the Bible are consistent with the prevailing morality of the times in which it was written, but pathetically primitive when compared to modern times. Why would this be so if the Bible was the word of an all-knowing god who should have been aware of the future evolution of civilization? Why are modern-day sexual ethics superior to those God allegedly prescribed a few thousand years ago? Both of these questions can be answered by acknowledging that the Bible was written by men, mired in their own primitive times, and without ANY supernatural inspiration.

Should I take the time to go through and knock these out one by one or just ask for citations and end all debate?

I know right off of the top of my head that Lot's daughters were not raped, nor was God okay with it(seeing they weren't raped).

Jesus never said,"Rush into a marriage"...

Etc, etc, etc...yawn...

God said if you have a wet dream you have to leave your camp until you"re "clean." Deuteronomy 23:10-11
God killed Juda"s son, Er. Then God commanded Er"s brother, Onan, to impregnate his dead brother"s wife. Onan had sex with his sister in law, but he "spilled his seed" outside of her because he didn"t want to get her pregnant. So God killed Onan. Genesis 38: 8-10
Lot let an angry mob gang rape his daughters, and this pleased God. Genesis 19: 1-11
Esau (Genesis 28:6-9), Jacob (Genesis 29:15-28), Elkanah (1 Samuel 1: 1-5), David (1 Samuel 25: 39-43) and Solomon owned multiple wives (1 Kings 11:1-3).
God left specific instructions on how daughters are to be sold to their husbands by their fathers. (Deuteronomy 22: 13-29)
God lists women as property not to be coveted. (Exodus 20:17)
God told Paul that women should obey their husbands, be silent in church and not wear expensive jewelry.(1 Corinthians 14: 34-38)
God said that anyone who has sex with an immediate family member or animal must be put to death, and if a man has sex with a woman while she"s on her period, then both of them must be exiled. (Leviticus 20: 11-19)

So if I jizz on myself you want me to jump in your lap and wipe on your shirt? Got it...
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3/23/2016 9:18:37 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 3/23/2016 9:17:26 PM, Chloe8 wrote:
At 3/23/2016 8:34:32 PM, nonwo wrote:
At 3/23/2016 8:28:33 PM, Chloe8 wrote:
At 3/23/2016 8:08:33 PM, nonwo wrote:
At 3/23/2016 8:04:29 PM, Chloe8 wrote:
At 3/23/2016 7:54:50 PM, nonwo wrote:
At 3/23/2016 7:51:53 PM, Chloe8 wrote:
At 3/23/2016 7:42:22 PM, nonwo wrote:
At 3/23/2016 7:39:40 PM, Chloe8 wrote:
The Bible"s attitude to sex reveals it was written by primitive tribesmen, not a god

The way the Bible treats sex is a valuable clue as to its origins. The following list is taken from:

https://wisesloth.wordpress.com...

If you have a wet dream you have to leave your camp for a fortnight until you"re "clean."
When a women is having her menstrual cycle she"s "unclean," and if a man touches anything she"s touched during her menstrual cycle he"ll become unclean as well and have to purify himself before God.
Yahweh killed Onan for "spilling his seed"
Lot"s daughter"s got him drunk and raped him, and this was okay.
Lot let an angry mob gang rape his daughters, and this pleased Yahweh.
Several Biblical characters married their cousins.
Fathers sold their daughters, and Yahweh wrote specific instructions for how to do this.
Yahweh wrote specific instructions for how a rapists is supposed to buy the women he rapes.
Yahweh lists women as property not to be coveted.
Yahweh told Paul that women should obey their husbands, be silent in church and not wear expensive jewelry.
Jesus said it"s better to rush into a lifelong marriage than to the have casual sex (probably because Yahweh said to stone adulteresses to death).
It is revealing that the sexual ethics in the Bible are consistent with the prevailing morality of the times in which it was written, but pathetically primitive when compared to modern times. Why would this be so if the Bible was the word of an all-knowing god who should have been aware of the future evolution of civilization? Why are modern-day sexual ethics superior to those God allegedly prescribed a few thousand years ago? Both of these questions can be answered by acknowledging that the Bible was written by men, mired in their own primitive times, and without ANY supernatural inspiration. : :

I'm sure you kind find all these primitive attitudes towards sex somewhere in the world today. Not all of us are reformed from those primitive tendencies.

Im sure you could find these attitudes in the most primitive of places. However this just reinforces my point. Modern society completely rejects them. Why would such a clever god act like bronze age tribesmen? : :

Modern society doesn't reject them. Modern society is made up of many primitive thinking individuals who wish they could practice such attitudes towards sex. It's the laws that would put them in prison which makes most of them keep their practices at a minimum.

Wrong. Most people in modern society reject primitive biblical attitudes towards sex. If this was not the case laws preventing many currently illegal sexual acts would not be in place. Laws are implemented in democracies because of a majority consensus. : :

Laws are written by hypocrites who are sexual deviates but afraid to admit it. They have to write laws to protect themselves against raping one another. Man hasn't changed a bit but laws have over the years.

Actually we are slowly through evolution and education becoming a more intelligent, advanced society. Hence life expectancy is higher and crime rates lower. The people making the laws are not doing it to protect themselves. How silly you are! If they wanted to carry out rape then they would not want a law condemning rapists to prison! : :

If that was true, then we wouldn't need any laws to protect women and children from rapists and incest. You simply don't understand that man has not changed at all. Only the laws change.

I don't deny some men want to rape women and abuse children. It's right laws are in place to stop such activities. However only a very small minority of men would want to act in such a way even if the laws preventing such activities didn't exist. : :

Written laws don't stop a rapist or pedophile.
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3/23/2016 9:19:18 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 3/23/2016 9:17:26 PM, Chloe8 wrote:
At 3/23/2016 8:34:32 PM, nonwo wrote:
At 3/23/2016 8:28:33 PM, Chloe8 wrote:
At 3/23/2016 8:08:33 PM, nonwo wrote:
At 3/23/2016 8:04:29 PM, Chloe8 wrote:
At 3/23/2016 7:54:50 PM, nonwo wrote:
At 3/23/2016 7:51:53 PM, Chloe8 wrote:
At 3/23/2016 7:42:22 PM, nonwo wrote:
At 3/23/2016 7:39:40 PM, Chloe8 wrote:
The Bible"s attitude to sex reveals it was written by primitive tribesmen, not a god

The way the Bible treats sex is a valuable clue as to its origins. The following list is taken from:

https://wisesloth.wordpress.com...

If you have a wet dream you have to leave your camp for a fortnight until you"re "clean."
When a women is having her menstrual cycle she"s "unclean," and if a man touches anything she"s touched during her menstrual cycle he"ll become unclean as well and have to purify himself before God.
Yahweh killed Onan for "spilling his seed"
Lot"s daughter"s got him drunk and raped him, and this was okay.
Lot let an angry mob gang rape his daughters, and this pleased Yahweh.
Several Biblical characters married their cousins.
Fathers sold their daughters, and Yahweh wrote specific instructions for how to do this.
Yahweh wrote specific instructions for how a rapists is supposed to buy the women he rapes.
Yahweh lists women as property not to be coveted.
Yahweh told Paul that women should obey their husbands, be silent in church and not wear expensive jewelry.
Jesus said it"s better to rush into a lifelong marriage than to the have casual sex (probably because Yahweh said to stone adulteresses to death).
It is revealing that the sexual ethics in the Bible are consistent with the prevailing morality of the times in which it was written, but pathetically primitive when compared to modern times. Why would this be so if the Bible was the word of an all-knowing god who should have been aware of the future evolution of civilization? Why are modern-day sexual ethics superior to those God allegedly prescribed a few thousand years ago? Both of these questions can be answered by acknowledging that the Bible was written by men, mired in their own primitive times, and without ANY supernatural inspiration. : :

I'm sure you kind find all these primitive attitudes towards sex somewhere in the world today. Not all of us are reformed from those primitive tendencies.

Im sure you could find these attitudes in the most primitive of places. However this just reinforces my point. Modern society completely rejects them. Why would such a clever god act like bronze age tribesmen? : :

Modern society doesn't reject them. Modern society is made up of many primitive thinking individuals who wish they could practice such attitudes towards sex. It's the laws that would put them in prison which makes most of them keep their practices at a minimum.

Wrong. Most people in modern society reject primitive biblical attitudes towards sex. If this was not the case laws preventing many currently illegal sexual acts would not be in place. Laws are implemented in democracies because of a majority consensus. : :

Laws are written by hypocrites who are sexual deviates but afraid to admit it. They have to write laws to protect themselves against raping one another. Man hasn't changed a bit but laws have over the years.

Actually we are slowly through evolution and education becoming a more intelligent, advanced society. Hence life expectancy is higher and crime rates lower. The people making the laws are not doing it to protect themselves. How silly you are! If they wanted to carry out rape then they would not want a law condemning rapists to prison! : :

If that was true, then we wouldn't need any laws to protect women and children from rapists and incest. You simply don't understand that man has not changed at all. Only the laws change.

I don't deny some men want to rape women and abuse children. It's right laws are in place to stop such activities. However only a very small minority of men would want to act in such a way even if the laws preventing such activities didn't exist.

Lot's daughters weren't raped. Sorry Charlie.
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3/23/2016 9:22:05 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 3/23/2016 9:13:08 PM, Chloe8 wrote:
At 3/23/2016 7:55:24 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 3/23/2016 7:39:40 PM, Chloe8 wrote:
The Bible"s attitude to sex reveals it was written by primitive tribesmen, not a god

The way the Bible treats sex is a valuable clue as to its origins. The following list is taken from:

https://wisesloth.wordpress.com...

If you have a wet dream you have to leave your camp for a fortnight until you"re "clean."
When a women is having her menstrual cycle she"s "unclean," and if a man touches anything she"s touched during her menstrual cycle he"ll become unclean as well and have to purify himself before God.
Yahweh killed Onan for "spilling his seed"
Lot"s daughter"s got him drunk and raped him, and this was okay.
Lot let an angry mob gang rape his daughters, and this pleased Yahweh.
Several Biblical characters married their cousins.
Fathers sold their daughters, and Yahweh wrote specific instructions for how to do this.
Yahweh wrote specific instructions for how a rapists is supposed to buy the women he rapes.
Yahweh lists women as property not to be coveted.
Yahweh told Paul that women should obey their husbands, be silent in church and not wear expensive jewelry.
Jesus said it"s better to rush into a lifelong marriage than to the have casual sex (probably because Yahweh said to stone adulteresses to death).
It is revealing that the sexual ethics in the Bible are consistent with the prevailing morality of the times in which it was written, but pathetically primitive when compared to modern times. Why would this be so if the Bible was the word of an all-knowing god who should have been aware of the future evolution of civilization? Why are modern-day sexual ethics superior to those God allegedly prescribed a few thousand years ago? Both of these questions can be answered by acknowledging that the Bible was written by men, mired in their own primitive times, and without ANY supernatural inspiration.

Should I take the time to go through and knock these out one by one or just ask for citations and end all debate?

I know right off of the top of my head that Lot's daughters were not raped, nor was God okay with it(seeing they weren't raped).

Jesus never said,"Rush into a marriage"...

Etc, etc, etc...yawn...

God said if you have a wet dream you have to leave your camp until you"re "clean." Deuteronomy 23:10-11
God killed Juda"s son, Er. Then God commanded Er"s brother, Onan, to impregnate his dead brother"s wife. Onan had sex with his sister in law, but he "spilled his seed" outside of her because he didn"t want to get her pregnant. So God killed Onan. Genesis 38: 8-10
Lot let an angry mob gang rape his daughters, and this pleased God. Genesis 19: 1-11
Esau (Genesis 28:6-9), Jacob (Genesis 29:15-28), Elkanah (1 Samuel 1: 1-5), David (1 Samuel 25: 39-43) and Solomon owned multiple wives (1 Kings 11:1-3).
God left specific instructions on how daughters are to be sold to their husbands by their fathers. (Deuteronomy 22: 13-29)
God lists women as property not to be coveted. (Exodus 20:17)
God told Paul that women should obey their husbands, be silent in church and not wear expensive jewelry.(1 Corinthians 14: 34-38)
God said that anyone who has sex with an immediate family member or animal must be put to death, and if a man has sex with a woman while she"s on her period, then both of them must be exiled. (Leviticus 20: 11-19)

A lot of OT stories aren't examples of "what you should do" Chloe. Lol A lot of these stories are pointing out people's mistakes, wikedness, sins, etc as examples of "what not to do."
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3/23/2016 9:22:14 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 3/23/2016 9:18:37 PM, nonwo wrote:
At 3/23/2016 9:17:26 PM, Chloe8 wrote:
At 3/23/2016 8:34:32 PM, nonwo wrote:
At 3/23/2016 8:28:33 PM, Chloe8 wrote:
At 3/23/2016 8:08:33 PM, nonwo wrote:
At 3/23/2016 8:04:29 PM, Chloe8 wrote:
At 3/23/2016 7:54:50 PM, nonwo wrote:
At 3/23/2016 7:51:53 PM, Chloe8 wrote:
At 3/23/2016 7:42:22 PM, nonwo wrote:
At 3/23/2016 7:39:40 PM, Chloe8 wrote:
The Bible"s attitude to sex reveals it was written by primitive tribesmen, not a god

The way the Bible treats sex is a valuable clue as to its origins. The following list is taken from:

https://wisesloth.wordpress.com...

If you have a wet dream you have to leave your camp for a fortnight until you"re "clean."
When a women is having her menstrual cycle she"s "unclean," and if a man touches anything she"s touched during her menstrual cycle he"ll become unclean as well and have to purify himself before God.
Yahweh killed Onan for "spilling his seed"
Lot"s daughter"s got him drunk and raped him, and this was okay.
Lot let an angry mob gang rape his daughters, and this pleased Yahweh.
Several Biblical characters married their cousins.
Fathers sold their daughters, and Yahweh wrote specific instructions for how to do this.
Yahweh wrote specific instructions for how a rapists is supposed to buy the women he rapes.
Yahweh lists women as property not to be coveted.
Yahweh told Paul that women should obey their husbands, be silent in church and not wear expensive jewelry.
Jesus said it"s better to rush into a lifelong marriage than to the have casual sex (probably because Yahweh said to stone adulteresses to death).
It is revealing that the sexual ethics in the Bible are consistent with the prevailing morality of the times in which it was written, but pathetically primitive when compared to modern times. Why would this be so if the Bible was the word of an all-knowing god who should have been aware of the future evolution of civilization? Why are modern-day sexual ethics superior to those God allegedly prescribed a few thousand years ago? Both of these questions can be answered by acknowledging that the Bible was written by men, mired in their own primitive times, and without ANY supernatural inspiration. : :

I'm sure you kind find all these primitive attitudes towards sex somewhere in the world today. Not all of us are reformed from those primitive tendencies.

Im sure you could find these attitudes in the most primitive of places. However this just reinforces my point. Modern society completely rejects them. Why would such a clever god act like bronze age tribesmen? : :

Modern society doesn't reject them. Modern society is made up of many primitive thinking individuals who wish they could practice such attitudes towards sex. It's the laws that would put them in prison which makes most of them keep their practices at a minimum.

Wrong. Most people in modern society reject primitive biblical attitudes towards sex. If this was not the case laws preventing many currently illegal sexual acts would not be in place. Laws are implemented in democracies because of a majority consensus. : :

Laws are written by hypocrites who are sexual deviates but afraid to admit it. They have to write laws to protect themselves against raping one another. Man hasn't changed a bit but laws have over the years.

Actually we are slowly through evolution and education becoming a more intelligent, advanced society. Hence life expectancy is higher and crime rates lower. The people making the laws are not doing it to protect themselves. How silly you are! If they wanted to carry out rape then they would not want a law condemning rapists to prison! : :

If that was true, then we wouldn't need any laws to protect women and children from rapists and incest. You simply don't understand that man has not changed at all. Only the laws change.

I don't deny some men want to rape women and abuse children. It's right laws are in place to stop such activities. However only a very small minority of men would want to act in such a way even if the laws preventing such activities didn't exist. : :

Written laws don't stop a rapist or pedophile.

Agree some criminals break the law.
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3/23/2016 9:23:57 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 3/23/2016 9:14:02 PM, Chloe8 wrote:
At 3/23/2016 8:30:33 PM, Mhykiel wrote:
At 3/23/2016 7:39:40 PM, Chloe8 wrote:
The Bible"s attitude to sex reveals it was written by primitive tribesmen, not a god

The way the Bible treats sex is a valuable clue as to its origins. The following list is taken from:

https://wisesloth.wordpress.com...

If you have a wet dream you have to leave your camp for a fortnight until you"re "clean."
When a women is having her menstrual cycle she"s "unclean," and if a man touches anything she"s touched during her menstrual cycle he"ll become unclean as well and have to purify himself before God.
Yahweh killed Onan for "spilling his seed"
Lot"s daughter"s got him drunk and raped him, and this was okay.
Lot let an angry mob gang rape his daughters, and this pleased Yahweh.
Several Biblical characters married their cousins.
Fathers sold their daughters, and Yahweh wrote specific instructions for how to do this.
Yahweh wrote specific instructions for how a rapists is supposed to buy the women he rapes.
Yahweh lists women as property not to be coveted.
Yahweh told Paul that women should obey their husbands, be silent in church and not wear expensive jewelry.
Jesus said it"s better to rush into a lifelong marriage than to the have casual sex (probably because Yahweh said to stone adulteresses to death).
It is revealing that the sexual ethics in the Bible are consistent with the prevailing morality of the times in which it was written, but pathetically primitive when compared to modern times. Why would this be so if the Bible was the word of an all-knowing god who should have been aware of the future evolution of civilization? Why are modern-day sexual ethics superior to those God allegedly prescribed a few thousand years ago? Both of these questions can be answered by acknowledging that the Bible was written by men, mired in their own primitive times, and without ANY supernatural inspiration.

Cite the biblical passages confirming your statements. I stopped reading after 5 because they were so off.

And yet again primitive doesn't mean wrong. If these are wrong please enlightnen us with what you think is right.

In fact from now on why don't you just post what you think is right and forget the whole erroneous bible says 'this' stuff.

God said if you have a wet dream you have to leave your camp until you"re "clean." Deuteronomy 23:10-11
God killed Juda"s son, Er. Then God commanded Er"s brother, Onan, to impregnate his dead brother"s wife. Onan had sex with his sister in law, but he "spilled his seed" outside of her because he didn"t want to get her pregnant. So God killed Onan. Genesis 38: 8-10
Lot let an angry mob gang rape his daughters, and this pleased God. Genesis 19: 1-11
Esau (Genesis 28:6-9), Jacob (Genesis 29:15-28), Elkanah (1 Samuel 1: 1-5), David (1 Samuel 25: 39-43) and Solomon owned multiple wives (1 Kings 11:1-3).
God left specific instructions on how daughters are to be sold to their husbands by their fathers. (Deuteronomy 22: 13-29)
God lists women as property not to be coveted. (Exodus 20:17)
God told Paul that women should obey their husbands, be silent in church and not wear expensive jewelry.(1 Corinthians 14: 34-38)
God said that anyone who has sex with an immediate family member or animal must be put to death, and if a man has sex with a woman while she"s on her period, then both of them must be exiled. (Leviticus 20: 11-19)

So why did God command exile, death, etc ?
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