Total Posts:49|Showing Posts:1-30|Last Page
Jump to topic:

Short version of the bible

Chloe8
Posts: 2,614
Add as Friend
Challenge to a Debate
Send a Message
3/23/2016 8:22:45 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
According to the Bible, the universe began 6,000 years ago. God created the components of the universe a few bits at a time over the course of 6 days. Some people believe the universe is actually about 14 billion years old, and the 6 "days" God spent creating the universe are actually "eras." If that"s true, then each era lasted about 2.3 billion years. Regardless, the components of the universe were created in the following order:

1. An empty universe and the Earth
2. Light
3. Earth"s atmosphere
4. The oceans of the Earth
5. All land on Earth that is above sea level
6. Plants
7. The rest of the stars, galaxies and matter in the universe
8. The sun and the moon
9. Fish
10. Birds
11. Animals that live on land Genesis 1

As an afterthought, God created a sentient being out of the same inanimate matter the rest of the physical universe is made of and named his latest creation, Adam. Then as a second afterthought, God decided to create another human whose body was designed with reproductive organs compatible with Adam"s existing reproductive system.. But instead of creating the first female human out of dirt like He did Adam, God created her by removing one of Adam"s rips and then morphing it into her. Then He named her Eve.

God created a magic garden for Adam and Eve to live in. Then he placed a magic fruit tree in the middle of the magic garden and told Adam and Eve that the worst thing they could do in life was eat the magic fruit from the magic tree.

Adam and Eve obeyed God"s instructions, but one day when God wasn"t looking, a talking snake lied to Eve and told her it was okay to eat the magic fruit. Having no concept of lying, Eve believed the talking animal and ate the magic fruit.

When God found out his inventions had broken the most important rule in the universe and eaten one of the magic pieces of fruit, He got really angry and kicked Adam and Eve out of the magic garden He had given them. Then He left a flying, flaming sword to guard the garden. Historically, this was the first sword to ever exist.

Then God invented thorns and thistles to further annoy human, and He cursed all women to hurt when they give birth and ordained that men would have to spend their lives working themselves to death just to scrape by. God also cursed all mankind with original sin, which meant we would all be born destined to suffer for eternity after death unless we could make amends with our creator during the short time we have on Earth. Finally, God cursed the snake who caused all this trouble to have to crawl on its belly. Genesis 17:9-14

Then God started handing down rules for Adam and Eve"s incestuous decedents to follow. The first rule God established was to reverse His pre-existing rule that clothes were unnatural" except God never actually said that rule. Adam and Eve just sort of magically knew it. The rest of the rules were dictated by God to humans who wrote them with God"s full authority, and they were pretty interesting:

Deuteronomy 21

You have to cut off the foreskin of men"s penises.
If you find a dead body but can"t figure out who the killer is, you have to break a cow"s neck on top of the body.
If you go to war and take women captive, you can marry them after shaving their head and living with them for a month. However, afterwards you can"t sell her into slavery or treat her like a slave.
If a man has two wives and loves one more, he still has to give his first born son the majority of his inheritance even if he doesn"t love the child"s mother.
If you have a rebellious son, you should take him to the center of town where all the towns" men will stone him to death.
If you execute a criminal and hang his body on a pole, you have to leave the body hanging over night.
Deuteronomy 22:13-29:

If you buy a wife and claim that she wasn"t a virgin when you bought her, but her parents prove she was a virgin then you have to pay her father 100 sheckles of silver and can never divorce her. However, if it turns out she wasn"t a virgin then the men of your town must stone her to death on her father"s front lawn.
If a man has sex with another man"s wife, both the man and woman must be stoned to death.
If a man rapes a women who is engaged, and the woman doesn"t cry out for help, then both the man and the woman must be stoned to death. If a man rapes an unmarried woman, and she cries out for help, then he must buy her from her father for 50 sheckles of silver and can never divorce her.
Deuteronomy 23:1-2

Nobody whose testicles are crushed are allowed to go to church. Neither are people born from a forbidden marriage or any of their descendants.
Deuteronomy 25:11-12

If two men are fighting, and one of their wives grabs the other man"s testicles, you must chop her hand off.
Exodus 22:18

You must kill witches.
Leviticus 11

You"re not allowed to eat camels, rabbits, pigs, anything from the ocean that doesn"t have fins and scales, eagles, vultures, ravens, owls, hawks, ospreys, storks, herons, bats, all flying insects except for locusts, katydids, crickets and grasshoppers, weasels, rats and most lizards. If you eat any of these animals or touch their carcass you"ll be magically unclean for the rest of the day, and you have to wash your clothes because they"re magically unclean also.
Leviticus 19:19-27

Don"t have sex with animals.
Don"t plan different kinds of seeds in the same field.
Don"t wear clothes made of more than one kind of fabric.
If a man sleeps with a female slave who was promised to be sold to someone else, he must give a ram to the city priest.
If you plant a fruit tree you"re not allowed to eat any of the fruit for the first three years. You have to give all the fruit from the fourth year to God. Then you can eat the fruit yourself.
Don"t eat meat with the blood still in it.
Don"t practice divination or seek omens.
Don"t cut your sideburns or the edges of your beard.
If God"s children broke any of these rules, the only way they could make it up to Him was to slaughter and burn animals on an altar. This is of paramount importance in the Bible. God needed the blood of His creations to forgive his children for breaking His rules. Why did the blood of God"s creations please Him so much? There is no sane, reasonable explanation why. Leviticus 1:1-19

God got upset once since not enough people were following His rules. So he flooded the entire earth and killed all but one family, who then repopulated the Earth incestuously. After the flood God invented rainbows. Before that time water droplets did not refract light in a way that produced the optical illusion of a multicolored arch when viewed from a certain angle. Genesis 5-10:1

When the human population had recovered, God instructed mankind to build Him a literal home on Earth out of rocks. So men built God a house, and He lived there for a while. Once a year the high priest would visit Him, but if anyone else entered God"s bedroom they died instantly. The high priest would also die if God didn"t like him enough. 1 Kings 6

God only told the nation of Israel about how Adam and Eve made Him curse mankind and that you could be saved from your damnation by sacrificing animals to Him on His front lawn. To God, the rest of mankind was disposable. For several thousand years He helped the Israelis kill thousands upon thousands of other people and take their land. When the Israeli people weren"t obedient enough, God would do horrible things to them like burn their cities and sell them into slavery.

Genesis 19:23-26
Judges 4:1-2
Isaiah 24
Judges 15:3-20
Exodus 12:29-30
Joshua 10:11-14

Since God, Himself was literally dropping burning rocks out of the sky onto the battlefield, the nation of Israel defeated many enemies and grew large and powerful. However, God was no match for the Roman army, which conquered Israel and would later tear down all but the western wall of His house.
"I don't need experience.to knock you out. I'm a man. that's all I need to beat you and any woman."

Fatihah, in his delusion that he could knock out any woman while bragging about being able to knock me out. An example of 7th century Islamic thinking inspired by his hero the paedophile Muhammad.
Chloe8
Posts: 2,614
Add as Friend
Challenge to a Debate
Send a Message
3/23/2016 8:24:07 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
After Rome conquered God, He decided to alter his arrangement with humanity. In His infinite wisdom, He decided people shouldn"t have to kill animals on his doorstep to woo Him into forgiving them for breaking His rules. The only problem was that it"s impossible for God to forgive His creations without them killing other things He created. He needed blood. And since the bigger living thing you killed, the more God forgave, that meant someone would have to kill the biggest thing in the universe in order to satisfy God enough that He would not feel the need to punish his creations with everlasting torture anymore. The only thing big enough and perfect enough to kill that would appease God was Himself, and humans can"t kill God. So God found a loop hole. He would come to earth and get Himself killed.

Instead of appearing on Earth instantly or building Himself a body like he did for Adam, He chose to impregnate Himself into an unmarried virgin even though He, Himself had commanded that all sexually active, unmarried women were either to be sold to their rapist or beaten to death with rocks in the street. Deuteronomy 22: 13-28

God grew up in human form kind of knowing He was God but kind of not. Eventually He remembered why He came to Earth in the first place, to kill himself to appease his own bloodlust so that all people, even the ones He used to think of as disposable, wouldn"t have to worry about Him torturing them for eternity. But first He got drunk. John 2:1-11

After that, He cryptically explained to his dim-witted groupies that they wouldn"t have to give Him anymore animal carcasses to buy his love. However, they would still have to know and believe that He came to Earth to kill Himself to satisfy His blood lust, and He would force anyone who didn"t know and believe the story about His trip to Earth to spend eternity in unbearable agony. John 3:16

He also took the time to approve of slavery. Luke 17:7-10

Then He went to His big, stone house and yelled at the people He had ordained as His spokesmen on Earth for setting extortionate exchange rates and charging too much for animals they sold to pilgrims to slaughter on His doorstep to satisfy His blood lust.

After being shamed and threatened by God, His spokesmen went to the Roman authorities and arranged to have God nailed to two planks of wood, which was a common punishment at the time for people convicted of treason and/or claiming to be a messiah. God allowed himself to be arrested by human police, tried in Roman court for trumped up charges, be tortured in the street and nailed to two pieces of wood. If God loves blood, He was not disappointed that day.

In the time it took for the Earth to make three complete rotations on its axis, God experienced the supernatural torture He had been subjecting humans too, but since He didn"t deserve it, He got to leave.

On His way back to Heaven he instantly appeared on Earth (without impregnating another unmarried virgin) and scolded one of His groupies for believing He was dead after watching Him die. John 20

Nobody ever saw Jesus again after that, but God still had a message He wanted to give to humanity. So God ordained some new spokesmen to pass out some revised rules that everyone had to live by:

Women shouldn"t talk in church, and if they have theological questions, they should just ask their husband at home. 1 Corinthians 14:34-38
Women should not have fancy haircuts or wear fancy clothes. Specifically, they shouldn"t wear gold or pearls. Women should also be quiet and submissive, and they"re not allowed to teach men or hold any job that puts them in a position of authority over a man. 1 Timothy 2:8-15
Slavery should be legal, and slaves should obey their masters. This is reiterated at least four times:
1. Ephesians 6:5
1 Timothy 6:1-2
Titus 2:9
1 Peter 2:18
After laying down a few new laws and reiterating a few of His old ones, God dictated one final message to mankind. He promised to wipe us all out in a grotesque apocalypse. Revelations 7-9

That was the last we ever heard from God.
"I don't need experience.to knock you out. I'm a man. that's all I need to beat you and any woman."

Fatihah, in his delusion that he could knock out any woman while bragging about being able to knock me out. An example of 7th century Islamic thinking inspired by his hero the paedophile Muhammad.
Harikrish
Posts: 11,010
Add as Friend
Challenge to a Debate
Send a Message
3/24/2016 3:11:16 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 3/23/2016 8:24:07 PM, Chloe8 wrote:
After Rome conquered God, He decided to alter his arrangement with humanity. In His infinite wisdom, He decided people shouldn"t have to kill animals on his doorstep to woo Him into forgiving them for breaking His rules. The only problem was that it"s impossible for God to forgive His creations without them killing other things He created. He needed blood. And since the bigger living thing you killed, the more God forgave, that meant someone would have to kill the biggest thing in the universe in order to satisfy God enough that He would not feel the need to punish his creations with everlasting torture anymore. The only thing big enough and perfect enough to kill that would appease God was Himself, and humans can"t kill God. So God found a loop hole. He would come to earth and get Himself killed.

Instead of appearing on Earth instantly or building Himself a body like he did for Adam, He chose to impregnate Himself into an unmarried virgin even though He, Himself had commanded that all sexually active, unmarried women were either to be sold to their rapist or beaten to death with rocks in the street. Deuteronomy 22: 13-28

God grew up in human form kind of knowing He was God but kind of not. Eventually He remembered why He came to Earth in the first place, to kill himself to appease his own bloodlust so that all people, even the ones He used to think of as disposable, wouldn"t have to worry about Him torturing them for eternity. But first He got drunk. John 2:1-11

After that, He cryptically explained to his dim-witted groupies that they wouldn"t have to give Him anymore animal carcasses to buy his love. However, they would still have to know and believe that He came to Earth to kill Himself to satisfy His blood lust, and He would force anyone who didn"t know and believe the story about His trip to Earth to spend eternity in unbearable agony. John 3:16

He also took the time to approve of slavery. Luke 17:7-10

Then He went to His big, stone house and yelled at the people He had ordained as His spokesmen on Earth for setting extortionate exchange rates and charging too much for animals they sold to pilgrims to slaughter on His doorstep to satisfy His blood lust.

After being shamed and threatened by God, His spokesmen went to the Roman authorities and arranged to have God nailed to two planks of wood, which was a common punishment at the time for people convicted of treason and/or claiming to be a messiah. God allowed himself to be arrested by human police, tried in Roman court for trumped up charges, be tortured in the street and nailed to two pieces of wood. If God loves blood, He was not disappointed that day.

In the time it took for the Earth to make three complete rotations on its axis, God experienced the supernatural torture He had been subjecting humans too, but since He didn"t deserve it, He got to leave.

On His way back to Heaven he instantly appeared on Earth (without impregnating another unmarried virgin) and scolded one of His groupies for believing He was dead after watching Him die. John 20

Nobody ever saw Jesus again after that, but God still had a message He wanted to give to humanity. So God ordained some new spokesmen to pass out some revised rules that everyone had to live by:

Women shouldn"t talk in church, and if they have theological questions, they should just ask their husband at home. 1 Corinthians 14:34-38
Women should not have fancy haircuts or wear fancy clothes. Specifically, they shouldn"t wear gold or pearls. Women should also be quiet and submissive, and they"re not allowed to teach men or hold any job that puts them in a position of authority over a man. 1 Timothy 2:8-15
Slavery should be legal, and slaves should obey their masters. This is reiterated at least four times:
1. Ephesians 6:5
1 Timothy 6:1-2
Titus 2:9
1 Peter 2:18
After laying down a few new laws and reiterating a few of His old ones, God dictated one final message to mankind. He promised to wipe us all out in a grotesque apocalypse. Revelations 7-9

That was the last we ever heard from God.

That was also the last you heard from your Christian boyfriend. You appear determined to get even by exposing his faith in the bible.
Slimey_Jack
Posts: 46
Add as Friend
Challenge to a Debate
Send a Message
3/24/2016 5:27:41 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 3/24/2016 3:25:47 PM, Deb-8-A-Bull wrote:
What sound is made when god was making things.?

Ther ers ner sernd ern sperce.
FaustianJustice
Posts: 6,237
Add as Friend
Challenge to a Debate
Send a Message
3/24/2016 5:49:53 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 3/24/2016 5:27:41 PM, Slimey_Jack wrote:
At 3/24/2016 3:25:47 PM, Deb-8-A-Bull wrote:
What sound is made when god was making things.?

Ther ers ner sernd ern sperce.

Ber sperce wers nerver serd to be merde!
Here we have an advocate for Islamic arranged marriages demonstrating that children can consent to sex.
http://www.debate.org...
bigotry
Posts: 1,068
Add as Friend
Challenge to a Debate
Send a Message
3/24/2016 5:59:11 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
This particular persons loves putting their irrelevant input into things they obviouslt havent read. Just off the bat you say the bible says the universe is 6,000 years old. Thats wrong. I posted a topic on the difference of genesis 1:1 and 1:2. I highly encourage it. Its these basic oversights and internet based argument that are really shameful to stand by. Try a bit of scholarship. One really good bible teacher in particular is Dr. James Vernon Mgee and his through the bible program. Hes dead now, but his insights are priceless.

Please stop trolling the bible. Its just as pathetic as when we see people troll science.
Chloe8
Posts: 2,614
Add as Friend
Challenge to a Debate
Send a Message
3/24/2016 7:10:40 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 3/24/2016 5:59:11 PM, bigotry wrote:
This particular persons loves putting their irrelevant input into things they obviouslt havent read. Just off the bat you say the bible says the universe is 6,000 years old. Thats wrong. I posted a topic on the difference of genesis 1:1 and 1:2. I highly encourage it. Its these basic oversights and internet based argument that are really shameful to stand by. Try a bit of scholarship. One really good bible teacher in particular is Dr. James Vernon Mgee and his through the bible program. Hes dead now, but his insights are priceless.

Please stop trolling the bible. Its just as pathetic as when we see people troll science.

Genesis clearly suggests the universe is 6, 000 years old. Hence Christians taught that for hundreds of years!
"I don't need experience.to knock you out. I'm a man. that's all I need to beat you and any woman."

Fatihah, in his delusion that he could knock out any woman while bragging about being able to knock me out. An example of 7th century Islamic thinking inspired by his hero the paedophile Muhammad.
Chloe8
Posts: 2,614
Add as Friend
Challenge to a Debate
Send a Message
3/24/2016 7:33:11 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 3/24/2016 3:11:16 PM, Harikrish wrote:
At 3/23/2016 8:24:07 PM, Chloe8 wrote:
After Rome conquered God, He decided to alter his arrangement with humanity. In His infinite wisdom, He decided people shouldn"t have to kill animals on his doorstep to woo Him into forgiving them for breaking His rules. The only problem was that it"s impossible for God to forgive His creations without them killing other things He created. He needed blood. And since the bigger living thing you killed, the more God forgave, that meant someone would have to kill the biggest thing in the universe in order to satisfy God enough that He would not feel the need to punish his creations with everlasting torture anymore. The only thing big enough and perfect enough to kill that would appease God was Himself, and humans can"t kill God. So God found a loop hole. He would come to earth and get Himself killed.

Instead of appearing on Earth instantly or building Himself a body like he did for Adam, He chose to impregnate Himself into an unmarried virgin even though He, Himself had commanded that all sexually active, unmarried women were either to be sold to their rapist or beaten to death with rocks in the street. Deuteronomy 22: 13-28

God grew up in human form kind of knowing He was God but kind of not. Eventually He remembered why He came to Earth in the first place, to kill himself to appease his own bloodlust so that all people, even the ones He used to think of as disposable, wouldn"t have to worry about Him torturing them for eternity. But first He got drunk. John 2:1-11

After that, He cryptically explained to his dim-witted groupies that they wouldn"t have to give Him anymore animal carcasses to buy his love. However, they would still have to know and believe that He came to Earth to kill Himself to satisfy His blood lust, and He would force anyone who didn"t know and believe the story about His trip to Earth to spend eternity in unbearable agony. John 3:16

He also took the time to approve of slavery. Luke 17:7-10

Then He went to His big, stone house and yelled at the people He had ordained as His spokesmen on Earth for setting extortionate exchange rates and charging too much for animals they sold to pilgrims to slaughter on His doorstep to satisfy His blood lust.

After being shamed and threatened by God, His spokesmen went to the Roman authorities and arranged to have God nailed to two planks of wood, which was a common punishment at the time for people convicted of treason and/or claiming to be a messiah. God allowed himself to be arrested by human police, tried in Roman court for trumped up charges, be tortured in the street and nailed to two pieces of wood. If God loves blood, He was not disappointed that day.

In the time it took for the Earth to make three complete rotations on its axis, God experienced the supernatural torture He had been subjecting humans too, but since He didn"t deserve it, He got to leave.

On His way back to Heaven he instantly appeared on Earth (without impregnating another unmarried virgin) and scolded one of His groupies for believing He was dead after watching Him die. John 20

Nobody ever saw Jesus again after that, but God still had a message He wanted to give to humanity. So God ordained some new spokesmen to pass out some revised rules that everyone had to live by:

Women shouldn"t talk in church, and if they have theological questions, they should just ask their husband at home. 1 Corinthians 14:34-38
Women should not have fancy haircuts or wear fancy clothes. Specifically, they shouldn"t wear gold or pearls. Women should also be quiet and submissive, and they"re not allowed to teach men or hold any job that puts them in a position of authority over a man. 1 Timothy 2:8-15
Slavery should be legal, and slaves should obey their masters. This is reiterated at least four times:
1. Ephesians 6:5
1 Timothy 6:1-2
Titus 2:9
1 Peter 2:18
After laying down a few new laws and reiterating a few of His old ones, God dictated one final message to mankind. He promised to wipe us all out in a grotesque apocalypse. Revelations 7-9

That was the last we ever heard from God.

That was also the last you heard from your Christian boyfriend. You appear determined to get even by exposing his faith in the bible.

No thats a load of rubbish.
"I don't need experience.to knock you out. I'm a man. that's all I need to beat you and any woman."

Fatihah, in his delusion that he could knock out any woman while bragging about being able to knock me out. An example of 7th century Islamic thinking inspired by his hero the paedophile Muhammad.
Harikrish
Posts: 11,010
Add as Friend
Challenge to a Debate
Send a Message
3/24/2016 7:42:37 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 3/24/2016 7:33:11 PM, Chloe8 wrote:
At 3/24/2016 3:11:16 PM, Harikrish wrote:
At 3/23/2016 8:24:07 PM, Chloe8 wrote:
After Rome conquered God, He decided to alter his arrangement with humanity. In His infinite wisdom, He decided people shouldn"t have to kill animals on his doorstep to woo Him into forgiving them for breaking His rules. The only problem was that it"s impossible for God to forgive His creations without them killing other things He created. He needed blood. And since the bigger living thing you killed, the more God forgave, that meant someone would have to kill the biggest thing in the universe in order to satisfy God enough that He would not feel the need to punish his creations with everlasting torture anymore. The only thing big enough and perfect enough to kill that would appease God was Himself, and humans can"t kill God. So God found a loop hole. He would come to earth and get Himself killed.

Instead of appearing on Earth instantly or building Himself a body like he did for Adam, He chose to impregnate Himself into an unmarried virgin even though He, Himself had commanded that all sexually active, unmarried women were either to be sold to their rapist or beaten to death with rocks in the street. Deuteronomy 22: 13-28

God grew up in human form kind of knowing He was God but kind of not. Eventually He remembered why He came to Earth in the first place, to kill himself to appease his own bloodlust so that all people, even the ones He used to think of as disposable, wouldn"t have to worry about Him torturing them for eternity. But first He got drunk. John 2:1-11

After that, He cryptically explained to his dim-witted groupies that they wouldn"t have to give Him anymore animal carcasses to buy his love. However, they would still have to know and believe that He came to Earth to kill Himself to satisfy His blood lust, and He would force anyone who didn"t know and believe the story about His trip to Earth to spend eternity in unbearable agony. John 3:16

He also took the time to approve of slavery. Luke 17:7-10

Then He went to His big, stone house and yelled at the people He had ordained as His spokesmen on Earth for setting extortionate exchange rates and charging too much for animals they sold to pilgrims to slaughter on His doorstep to satisfy His blood lust.

After being shamed and threatened by God, His spokesmen went to the Roman authorities and arranged to have God nailed to two planks of wood, which was a common punishment at the time for people convicted of treason and/or claiming to be a messiah. God allowed himself to be arrested by human police, tried in Roman court for trumped up charges, be tortured in the street and nailed to two pieces of wood. If God loves blood, He was not disappointed that day.

In the time it took for the Earth to make three complete rotations on its axis, God experienced the supernatural torture He had been subjecting humans too, but since He didn"t deserve it, He got to leave.

On His way back to Heaven he instantly appeared on Earth (without impregnating another unmarried virgin) and scolded one of His groupies for believing He was dead after watching Him die. John 20

Nobody ever saw Jesus again after that, but God still had a message He wanted to give to humanity. So God ordained some new spokesmen to pass out some revised rules that everyone had to live by:

Women shouldn"t talk in church, and if they have theological questions, they should just ask their husband at home. 1 Corinthians 14:34-38
Women should not have fancy haircuts or wear fancy clothes. Specifically, they shouldn"t wear gold or pearls. Women should also be quiet and submissive, and they"re not allowed to teach men or hold any job that puts them in a position of authority over a man. 1 Timothy 2:8-15
Slavery should be legal, and slaves should obey their masters. This is reiterated at least four times:
1. Ephesians 6:5
1 Timothy 6:1-2
Titus 2:9
1 Peter 2:18
After laying down a few new laws and reiterating a few of His old ones, God dictated one final message to mankind. He promised to wipe us all out in a grotesque apocalypse. Revelations 7-9

That was the last we ever heard from God.

That was also the last you heard from your Christian boyfriend. You appear determined to get even by exposing his faith in the bible.

No thats a load of rubbish.

If your boyfriend was an atheist. You would be less involved in religious debates and more into petting his monkey ego.
MadCornishBiker
Posts: 23,302
Add as Friend
Challenge to a Debate
Send a Message
3/24/2016 7:44:31 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 3/23/2016 8:22:45 PM, Chloe8 wrote:

I am sorry but that has to be about the most twisted and inaccurate version of what the Bible teaches I have ever come across.

In it you have displayed a complete and utter lack of even the slightest knowledge of what it really says.

Not least of your errors is that Genesis 1 gives no clue whatever to the age of the Universe or the earth. The whole of creation to that point is covered in one very brief verse, Verse 1 in fact.

The 6 days denote only the preparation of the earth for life, and the creation of the various forms of life on it.

And that is simply the smallest of your errors which are legion.
Harikrish
Posts: 11,010
Add as Friend
Challenge to a Debate
Send a Message
3/24/2016 7:50:51 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 3/24/2016 7:44:31 PM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
At 3/23/2016 8:22:45 PM, Chloe8 wrote:


I am sorry but that has to be about the most twisted and inaccurate version of what the Bible teaches I have ever come across.

In it you have displayed a complete and utter lack of even the slightest knowledge of what it really says.

Not least of your errors is that Genesis 1 gives no clue whatever to the age of the Universe or the earth. The whole of creation to that point is covered in one very brief verse, Verse 1 in fact.

The 6 days denote only the preparation of the earth for life, and the creation of the various forms of life on it.

And on the 7th day God rested. End of all creation

And that is simply the smallest of your errors which are legion.
Chloe8
Posts: 2,614
Add as Friend
Challenge to a Debate
Send a Message
3/24/2016 9:34:31 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 3/24/2016 7:42:37 PM, Harikrish wrote:
At 3/24/2016 7:33:11 PM, Chloe8 wrote:
At 3/24/2016 3:11:16 PM, Harikrish wrote:
At 3/23/2016 8:24:07 PM, Chloe8 wrote:
After Rome conquered God, He decided to alter his arrangement with humanity. In His infinite wisdom, He decided people shouldn"t have to kill animals on his doorstep to woo Him into forgiving them for breaking His rules. The only problem was that it"s impossible for God to forgive His creations without them killing other things He created. He needed blood. And since the bigger living thing you killed, the more God forgave, that meant someone would have to kill the biggest thing in the universe in order to satisfy God enough that He would not feel the need to punish his creations with everlasting torture anymore. The only thing big enough and perfect enough to kill that would appease God was Himself, and humans can"t kill God. So God found a loop hole. He would come to earth and get Himself killed.

Instead of appearing on Earth instantly or building Himself a body like he did for Adam, He chose to impregnate Himself into an unmarried virgin even though He, Himself had commanded that all sexually active, unmarried women were either to be sold to their rapist or beaten to death with rocks in the street. Deuteronomy 22: 13-28

God grew up in human form kind of knowing He was God but kind of not. Eventually He remembered why He came to Earth in the first place, to kill himself to appease his own bloodlust so that all people, even the ones He used to think of as disposable, wouldn"t have to worry about Him torturing them for eternity. But first He got drunk. John 2:1-11

After that, He cryptically explained to his dim-witted groupies that they wouldn"t have to give Him anymore animal carcasses to buy his love. However, they would still have to know and believe that He came to Earth to kill Himself to satisfy His blood lust, and He would force anyone who didn"t know and believe the story about His trip to Earth to spend eternity in unbearable agony. John 3:16

He also took the time to approve of slavery. Luke 17:7-10

Then He went to His big, stone house and yelled at the people He had ordained as His spokesmen on Earth for setting extortionate exchange rates and charging too much for animals they sold to pilgrims to slaughter on His doorstep to satisfy His blood lust.

After being shamed and threatened by God, His spokesmen went to the Roman authorities and arranged to have God nailed to two planks of wood, which was a common punishment at the time for people convicted of treason and/or claiming to be a messiah. God allowed himself to be arrested by human police, tried in Roman court for trumped up charges, be tortured in the street and nailed to two pieces of wood. If God loves blood, He was not disappointed that day.

In the time it took for the Earth to make three complete rotations on its axis, God experienced the supernatural torture He had been subjecting humans too, but since He didn"t deserve it, He got to leave.

On His way back to Heaven he instantly appeared on Earth (without impregnating another unmarried virgin) and scolded one of His groupies for believing He was dead after watching Him die. John 20

Nobody ever saw Jesus again after that, but God still had a message He wanted to give to humanity. So God ordained some new spokesmen to pass out some revised rules that everyone had to live by:

Women shouldn"t talk in church, and if they have theological questions, they should just ask their husband at home. 1 Corinthians 14:34-38
Women should not have fancy haircuts or wear fancy clothes. Specifically, they shouldn"t wear gold or pearls. Women should also be quiet and submissive, and they"re not allowed to teach men or hold any job that puts them in a position of authority over a man. 1 Timothy 2:8-15
Slavery should be legal, and slaves should obey their masters. This is reiterated at least four times:
1. Ephesians 6:5
1 Timothy 6:1-2
Titus 2:9
1 Peter 2:18
After laying down a few new laws and reiterating a few of His old ones, God dictated one final message to mankind. He promised to wipe us all out in a grotesque apocalypse. Revelations 7-9

That was the last we ever heard from God.

That was also the last you heard from your Christian boyfriend. You appear determined to get even by exposing his faith in the bible.

No thats a load of rubbish.

If your boyfriend was an atheist. You would be less involved in religious debates and more into petting his monkey ego.

Haha very funny!
"I don't need experience.to knock you out. I'm a man. that's all I need to beat you and any woman."

Fatihah, in his delusion that he could knock out any woman while bragging about being able to knock me out. An example of 7th century Islamic thinking inspired by his hero the paedophile Muhammad.
Chloe8
Posts: 2,614
Add as Friend
Challenge to a Debate
Send a Message
3/24/2016 9:40:55 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 3/24/2016 7:44:31 PM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
At 3/23/2016 8:22:45 PM, Chloe8 wrote:


I am sorry but that has to be about the most twisted and inaccurate version of what the Bible teaches I have ever come across.

In it you have displayed a complete and utter lack of even the slightest knowledge of what it really says.

Not least of your errors is that Genesis 1 gives no clue whatever to the age of the Universe or the earth. The whole of creation to that point is covered in one very brief verse, Verse 1 in fact.

The 6 days denote only the preparation of the earth for life, and the creation of the various forms of life on it.

And that is simply the smallest of your errors which are legion.

Genesis clearly suggests the earth is 6, 000 years old. Don't you believe that's the case anyway?

It suggests creation happened over a period of 6 days. It's pretty simple really. It claims a young universe and a young earth.
"I don't need experience.to knock you out. I'm a man. that's all I need to beat you and any woman."

Fatihah, in his delusion that he could knock out any woman while bragging about being able to knock me out. An example of 7th century Islamic thinking inspired by his hero the paedophile Muhammad.
bigotry
Posts: 1,068
Add as Friend
Challenge to a Debate
Send a Message
3/24/2016 11:22:21 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 3/24/2016 7:10:40 PM, Chloe8 wrote:
At 3/24/2016 5:59:11 PM, bigotry wrote:
This particular persons loves putting their irrelevant input into things they obviouslt havent read. Just off the bat you say the bible says the universe is 6,000 years old. Thats wrong. I posted a topic on the difference of genesis 1:1 and 1:2. I highly encourage it. Its these basic oversights and internet based argument that are really shameful to stand by. Try a bit of scholarship. One really good bible teacher in particular is Dr. James Vernon Mgee and his through the bible program. Hes dead now, but his insights are priceless.

Please stop trolling the bible. Its just as pathetic as when we see people troll science.

Genesis clearly suggests the universe is 6, 000 years old. Hence Christians taught that for hundreds of years!

According to no one other than yourself. It's people like you who if they did believe in God would only tarnish his image with your ridiculous assertions...

But I'll play along. Where does Genesis clearly suggest the universe is 6000 years old?
Which era of church history or denomination are you referring to that taght the first point?
FaustianJustice
Posts: 6,237
Add as Friend
Challenge to a Debate
Send a Message
3/24/2016 11:26:30 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 3/24/2016 11:22:21 PM, bigotry wrote:
At 3/24/2016 7:10:40 PM, Chloe8 wrote:
At 3/24/2016 5:59:11 PM, bigotry wrote:
This particular persons loves putting their irrelevant input into things they obviouslt havent read. Just off the bat you say the bible says the universe is 6,000 years old. Thats wrong. I posted a topic on the difference of genesis 1:1 and 1:2. I highly encourage it. Its these basic oversights and internet based argument that are really shameful to stand by. Try a bit of scholarship. One really good bible teacher in particular is Dr. James Vernon Mgee and his through the bible program. Hes dead now, but his insights are priceless.

Please stop trolling the bible. Its just as pathetic as when we see people troll science.

Genesis clearly suggests the universe is 6, 000 years old. Hence Christians taught that for hundreds of years!

According to no one other than yourself. It's people like you who if they did believe in God would only tarnish his image with your ridiculous assertions...

But I'll play along. Where does Genesis clearly suggest the universe is 6000 years old?
Which era of church history or denomination are you referring to that taght the first point?

Are you familiar with what a Young Earth Creationist is? (YEC?) There are plenty of religious folk whom firmly believe dinosaur and man as we now behold him walked hand in claw together.
Here we have an advocate for Islamic arranged marriages demonstrating that children can consent to sex.
http://www.debate.org...
bigotry
Posts: 1,068
Add as Friend
Challenge to a Debate
Send a Message
3/24/2016 11:46:11 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 3/24/2016 11:26:30 PM, FaustianJustice wrote:
At 3/24/2016 11:22:21 PM, bigotry wrote:
At 3/24/2016 7:10:40 PM, Chloe8 wrote:
At 3/24/2016 5:59:11 PM, bigotry wrote:
This particular persons loves putting their irrelevant input into things they obviouslt havent read. Just off the bat you say the bible says the universe is 6,000 years old. Thats wrong. I posted a topic on the difference of genesis 1:1 and 1:2. I highly encourage it. Its these basic oversights and internet based argument that are really shameful to stand by. Try a bit of scholarship. One really good bible teacher in particular is Dr. James Vernon Mgee and his through the bible program. Hes dead now, but his insights are priceless.

Please stop trolling the bible. Its just as pathetic as when we see people troll science.

Genesis clearly suggests the universe is 6, 000 years old. Hence Christians taught that for hundreds of years!

According to no one other than yourself. It's people like you who if they did believe in God would only tarnish his image with your ridiculous assertions...

But I'll play along. Where does Genesis clearly suggest the universe is 6000 years old?
Which era of church history or denomination are you referring to that taght the first point?

Are you familiar with what a Young Earth Creationist is? (YEC?) There are plenty of religious folk whom firmly believe dinosaur and man as we now behold him walked hand in claw together.

Yes. I would contend that dinosaurs and man living together has nothing to do with the age of the earth. Don't forget the average dinosaur was no bigger than a sheep. I wouldn't know how to prove either side but I find the position more than defendable.
Chloe8
Posts: 2,614
Add as Friend
Challenge to a Debate
Send a Message
3/24/2016 11:47:28 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 3/24/2016 11:22:21 PM, bigotry wrote:
At 3/24/2016 7:10:40 PM, Chloe8 wrote:
At 3/24/2016 5:59:11 PM, bigotry wrote:
This particular persons loves putting their irrelevant input into things they obviouslt havent read. Just off the bat you say the bible says the universe is 6,000 years old. Thats wrong. I posted a topic on the difference of genesis 1:1 and 1:2. I highly encourage it. Its these basic oversights and internet based argument that are really shameful to stand by. Try a bit of scholarship. One really good bible teacher in particular is Dr. James Vernon Mgee and his through the bible program. Hes dead now, but his insights are priceless.

Please stop trolling the bible. Its just as pathetic as when we see people troll science.

Genesis clearly suggests the universe is 6, 000 years old. Hence Christians taught that for hundreds of years!

According to no one other than yourself. It's people like you who if they did believe in God would only tarnish his image with your ridiculous assertions...

But I'll play along. Where does Genesis clearly suggest the universe is 6000 years old?
Which era of church history or denomination are you referring to that taght the first point?

The Bible implicitly teaches us about the age of the universe. In other words, it gives us sufficient information so that we can compute approximately how long ago God created the universe. The Bible teaches that the entire universe was created in six earth-rotation days (Exodus 20:11 ). Furthermore, the Bible provides the age differences between parents and descendants1 when listing certain genealogies. From these kinds of biblical references, we know that the elapsed time between Adam and the birth of Christ was roughly 4,000 years. From other historical records, we know that Christ was born roughly 2,000 years ago. Since Adam was created on the sixth day of the creation week, we can conclude that the earth, the entire universe, and everything in it were created approximately 6,000 years ago.

Almost all Christians believed this interpretation of genesis until recently. Many still interpret genesis in this way. However some Christians recognize the absurd nature of the genesis creation account and try to bend it to fit scientific evidence. Either you accept God lied or you accept Christianity is false.
"I don't need experience.to knock you out. I'm a man. that's all I need to beat you and any woman."

Fatihah, in his delusion that he could knock out any woman while bragging about being able to knock me out. An example of 7th century Islamic thinking inspired by his hero the paedophile Muhammad.
MadCornishBiker
Posts: 23,302
Add as Friend
Challenge to a Debate
Send a Message
3/25/2016 1:01:38 AM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 3/24/2016 11:26:30 PM, FaustianJustice wrote:
At 3/24/2016 11:22:21 PM, bigotry wrote:
At 3/24/2016 7:10:40 PM, Chloe8 wrote:
At 3/24/2016 5:59:11 PM, bigotry wrote:
This particular persons loves putting their irrelevant input into things they obviouslt havent read. Just off the bat you say the bible says the universe is 6,000 years old. Thats wrong. I posted a topic on the difference of genesis 1:1 and 1:2. I highly encourage it. Its these basic oversights and internet based argument that are really shameful to stand by. Try a bit of scholarship. One really good bible teacher in particular is Dr. James Vernon Mgee and his through the bible program. Hes dead now, but his insights are priceless.

Please stop trolling the bible. Its just as pathetic as when we see people troll science.

Genesis clearly suggests the universe is 6, 000 years old. Hence Christians taught that for hundreds of years!

According to no one other than yourself. It's people like you who if they did believe in God would only tarnish his image with your ridiculous assertions...

But I'll play along. Where does Genesis clearly suggest the universe is 6000 years old?
Which era of church history or denomination are you referring to that taght the first point?

Are you familiar with what a Young Earth Creationist is? (YEC?) There are plenty of religious folk whom firmly believe dinosaur and man as we now behold him walked hand in claw together.

Just because they believe it does not make it so.

Ironically the creation and demise of the dinosaurs is one of the things that is not covered in scripture, presumably since, as they were finished with before man was created, they were not particularly relevant to us.

There are many theories as to why the dinosaurs existed, but to my mind the only one I can see that makes sense is that they were created as mobile, semi-autonomous fertilizer factories.
dee-em
Posts: 6,481
Add as Friend
Challenge to a Debate
Send a Message
3/25/2016 2:02:37 AM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 3/24/2016 5:59:11 PM, bigotry wrote:

This particular persons loves putting their irrelevant input into things they obviouslt havent read. Just off the bat you say the bible says the universe is 6,000 years old. Thats wrong.

The claim comes from YECs, not from her.

I posted a topic on the difference of genesis 1:1 and 1:2. I highly encourage it. Its these basic oversights and internet based argument that are really shameful to stand by. Try a bit of scholarship. One really good bible teacher in particular is Dr. James Vernon Mgee and his through the bible program. Hes dead now, but his insights are priceless.

Please stop trolling the bible. Its just as pathetic as when we see people troll science.

Do you mean like this: http://www.debate.org...

Hypocrite.
dee-em
Posts: 6,481
Add as Friend
Challenge to a Debate
Send a Message
3/25/2016 2:10:07 AM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 3/25/2016 1:01:38 AM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
At 3/24/2016 11:26:30 PM, FaustianJustice wrote:
At 3/24/2016 11:22:21 PM, bigotry wrote:
At 3/24/2016 7:10:40 PM, Chloe8 wrote:
At 3/24/2016 5:59:11 PM, bigotry wrote:
This particular persons loves putting their irrelevant input into things they obviouslt havent read. Just off the bat you say the bible says the universe is 6,000 years old. Thats wrong. I posted a topic on the difference of genesis 1:1 and 1:2. I highly encourage it. Its these basic oversights and internet based argument that are really shameful to stand by. Try a bit of scholarship. One really good bible teacher in particular is Dr. James Vernon Mgee and his through the bible program. Hes dead now, but his insights are priceless.

Please stop trolling the bible. Its just as pathetic as when we see people troll science.

Genesis clearly suggests the universe is 6, 000 years old. Hence Christians taught that for hundreds of years!

According to no one other than yourself. It's people like you who if they did believe in God would only tarnish his image with your ridiculous assertions...

But I'll play along. Where does Genesis clearly suggest the universe is 6000 years old?
Which era of church history or denomination are you referring to that taght the first point?

Are you familiar with what a Young Earth Creationist is? (YEC?) There are plenty of religious folk whom firmly believe dinosaur and man as we now behold him walked hand in claw together.

Just because they believe it does not make it so.

Now apply that to yourself.

Ironically the creation and demise of the dinosaurs is one of the things that is not covered in scripture, presumably since, as they were finished with before man was created, they were not particularly relevant to us.

Of course. It's perfectly understandable that 200 million years of dinosaurs is not worth a footnote compared to 0.5 million years of homo sapiens. Lol.

There are many theories as to why the dinosaurs existed, but to my mind the only one I can see that makes sense is that they were created as mobile, semi-autonomous fertilizer factories.

This has to be the funniest thing I have read in a long, long time.
Thanks MCB.
MadCornishBiker
Posts: 23,302
Add as Friend
Challenge to a Debate
Send a Message
3/25/2016 12:24:27 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 3/25/2016 2:10:07 AM, dee-em wrote:
At 3/25/2016 1:01:38 AM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
At 3/24/2016 11:26:30 PM, FaustianJustice wrote:
At 3/24/2016 11:22:21 PM, bigotry wrote:
At 3/24/2016 7:10:40 PM, Chloe8 wrote:
At 3/24/2016 5:59:11 PM, bigotry wrote:
This particular persons loves putting their irrelevant input into things they obviouslt havent read. Just off the bat you say the bible says the universe is 6,000 years old. Thats wrong. I posted a topic on the difference of genesis 1:1 and 1:2. I highly encourage it. Its these basic oversights and internet based argument that are really shameful to stand by. Try a bit of scholarship. One really good bible teacher in particular is Dr. James Vernon Mgee and his through the bible program. Hes dead now, but his insights are priceless.

Please stop trolling the bible. Its just as pathetic as when we see people troll science.

Genesis clearly suggests the universe is 6, 000 years old. Hence Christians taught that for hundreds of years!

According to no one other than yourself. It's people like you who if they did believe in God would only tarnish his image with your ridiculous assertions...

But I'll play along. Where does Genesis clearly suggest the universe is 6000 years old?
Which era of church history or denomination are you referring to that taght the first point?

Are you familiar with what a Young Earth Creationist is? (YEC?) There are plenty of religious folk whom firmly believe dinosaur and man as we now behold him walked hand in claw together.

Just because they believe it does not make it so.

Now apply that to yourself.

Oh I always do, daily. unlike you I question everything until; I run out of questions, and I haven't run out of questions in 67 years.


Ironically the creation and demise of the dinosaurs is one of the things that is not covered in scripture, presumably since, as they were finished with before man was created, they were not particularly relevant to us.

Of course. It's perfectly understandable that 200 million years of dinosaurs is not worth a footnote compared to 0.5 million years of homo sapiens. Lol.

Yes that is true for two reasons.

1: we have no real idea of the time scale other than highly suspect scientific measurement systems which rely on assumptions for which there is no evidence.

And

2: Since everything on this planet was created for man to care for and enjoy, why bother mentioning something which will not affect them? Mankind was intended to be the pinnacle of creation, and will be once the plan to get us back on course has rn its course.

Like I have said before. Need to Know. We don't know, and we don;t need to.

There are many theories as to why the dinosaurs existed, but to my mind the only one I can see that makes sense is that they were created as mobile, semi-autonomous fertilizer factories.

This has to be the funniest thing I have read in a long, long time.
Thanks MCB.

I am glad you enjoyed it, but it does make sense in a created world.

After all what better way to fertilise the ground and enjoy watching it being done?
It also gives a purpose to the creation of dinosaurs, and Jehovah does nothing without a purpose behind it.
bigotry
Posts: 1,068
Add as Friend
Challenge to a Debate
Send a Message
3/25/2016 2:33:45 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 3/25/2016 2:02:37 AM, dee-em wrote:
At 3/24/2016 5:59:11 PM, bigotry wrote:

This particular persons loves putting their irrelevant input into things they obviouslt havent read. Just off the bat you say the bible says the universe is 6,000 years old. Thats wrong.

The claim comes from YECs, not from her.
Look if you want the womans attention pm her yourself.
She literally said according to the bible...the universe is 6000 years old. I dont care what the pope says even, where does the bible teach that statement?

I posted a topic on the difference of genesis 1:1 and 1:2. I highly encourage it. Its these basic oversights and internet based argument that are really shameful to stand by. Try a bit of scholarship. One really good bible teacher in particular is Dr. James Vernon Mgee and his through the bible program. Hes dead now, but his insights are priceless.

Please stop trolling the bible. Its just as pathetic as when we see people troll science.

Do you mean like this: http://www.debate.org...

Hypocrite.
Oh like the hypocrasy of believing in a magical god agent that causes everything to spontaneously mega morph into a new species but then saying a God isnt the cause of everything to come into being?
Great dodge in that thread btw.
dee-em
Posts: 6,481
Add as Friend
Challenge to a Debate
Send a Message
3/25/2016 9:59:37 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 3/25/2016 2:33:45 PM, bigotry wrote:
At 3/25/2016 2:02:37 AM, dee-em wrote:
At 3/24/2016 5:59:11 PM, bigotry wrote:

This particular persons loves putting their irrelevant input into things they obviouslt havent read. Just off the bat you say the bible says the universe is 6,000 years old. Thats wrong.

The claim comes from YECs, not from her.

Look if you want the womans attention pm her yourself.
She literally said according to the bible...the universe is 6000 years old. I dont care what the pope says even, where does the bible teach that statement?

It's derived from the Bible by tallying up the ages of all the generations listed. Where do you think the YECs got it from? They didn't just conjure a number from thin air. All the early church fathers supported a date around that figure. It was an established Christian position until the last few centuries when science discovered that the Earth was much, much older.

I posted a topic on the difference of genesis 1:1 and 1:2. I highly encourage it. Its these basic oversights and internet based argument that are really shameful to stand by. Try a bit of scholarship. One really good bible teacher in particular is Dr. James Vernon Mgee and his through the bible program. Hes dead now, but his insights are priceless.

Please stop trolling the bible. Its just as pathetic as when we see people troll science.

Do you mean like this: http://www.debate.org...

Hypocrite.

Oh like the hypocrasy of believing in a magical god agent that causes everything to spontaneously mega morph into a new species but then saying a God isnt the cause of everything to come into being?

And this is exactly what I mean. What a lying hypocrite.

Great dodge in that thread btw.

I have no idea what you are talking about nor am I interested. Begone troll.
dee-em
Posts: 6,481
Add as Friend
Challenge to a Debate
Send a Message
3/25/2016 10:55:02 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 3/25/2016 12:24:27 PM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
At 3/25/2016 2:10:07 AM, dee-em wrote:
At 3/25/2016 1:01:38 AM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
At 3/24/2016 11:26:30 PM, FaustianJustice wrote:
At 3/24/2016 11:22:21 PM, bigotry wrote:
At 3/24/2016 7:10:40 PM, Chloe8 wrote:
At 3/24/2016 5:59:11 PM, bigotry wrote:
This particular persons loves putting their irrelevant input into things they obviouslt havent read. Just off the bat you say the bible says the universe is 6,000 years old. Thats wrong. I posted a topic on the difference of genesis 1:1 and 1:2. I highly encourage it. Its these basic oversights and internet based argument that are really shameful to stand by. Try a bit of scholarship. One really good bible teacher in particular is Dr. James Vernon Mgee and his through the bible program. Hes dead now, but his insights are priceless.

Please stop trolling the bible. Its just as pathetic as when we see people troll science.

Genesis clearly suggests the universe is 6, 000 years old. Hence Christians taught that for hundreds of years!

According to no one other than yourself. It's people like you who if they did believe in God would only tarnish his image with your ridiculous assertions...

But I'll play along. Where does Genesis clearly suggest the universe is 6000 years old?
Which era of church history or denomination are you referring to that taght the first point?

Are you familiar with what a Young Earth Creationist is? (YEC?) There are plenty of religious folk whom firmly believe dinosaur and man as we now behold him walked hand in claw together.

Just because they believe it does not make it so.

Now apply that to yourself.

Oh I always do, daily. unlike you I question everything until; I run out of questions, and I haven't run out of questions in 67 years.

The irony is lost on someone who thinks that questioning oneself involves merely dismissing all probing questions.

Ironically the creation and demise of the dinosaurs is one of the things that is not covered in scripture, presumably since, as they were finished with before man was created, they were not particularly relevant to us.

Of course. It's perfectly understandable that 200 million years of dinosaurs is not worth a footnote compared to 0.5 million years of homo sapiens. Lol.

Yes that is true for two reasons.

1: we have no real idea of the time scale other than highly suspect scientific measurement systems which rely on assumptions for which there is no evidence.

The ignorance on display is understable given your lack of education and your lack of desire to obtain one.

And

2: Since everything on this planet was created for man to care for and enjoy, why bother mentioning something which will not affect them? Mankind was intended to be the pinnacle of creation, and will be once the plan to get us back on course has rn its course.

Were lions, tigers, crocodiles, sharks, redbacks, mosquitoes, tapeworms, poisonous plants, harmful bacteria and deadly viruses created for man to care for and enjoy? You are a foolish, foolish human being.

Like I have said before. Need to Know. We don't know, and we don;t need to.

The mantra of the smug and self-satisfied ignorant.

There are many theories as to why the dinosaurs existed, but to my mind the only one I can see that makes sense is that they were created as mobile, semi-autonomous fertilizer factories.

This has to be the funniest thing I have read in a long, long time.
Thanks MCB.

I am glad you enjoyed it, but it does make sense in a created world.

After all what better way to fertilise the ground and enjoy watching it being done?
It also gives a purpose to the creation of dinosaurs, and Jehovah does nothing without a purpose behind it.

It makes sense to a simple mind completely out of touch with reality. A very, very simple mind.
MadCornishBiker
Posts: 23,302
Add as Friend
Challenge to a Debate
Send a Message
3/25/2016 11:13:17 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 3/25/2016 10:55:02 PM, dee-em wrote:
At 3/25/2016 12:24:27 PM, MadCornishBiker wrote:


1: we have no real idea of the time scale other than highly suspect scientific measurement systems which rely on assumptions for which there is no evidence.

The ignorance on display is understable given your lack of education and your lack of desire to obtain one.

That is an unwarranted and unsupportable assumption.

What I stated above is a matter of demonstrable fact. Scientific measurement systems make no allowance for possible changes of radiation levels and there is no possible way of measuring what radiation levels were back then.

So scientists simply assume that they were the same as they are now.

It's exactly like trying to work out how long a water tank has been leaking without knowing if anything has changed the rate of leakage, or how much water was in there in the first place.

There really is no reliable way of measuring time beyond recorded history, and even that is dubious enough at times.

If you don't realise that it is you who is not only ignorant but gullible.


And

2: Since everything on this planet was created for man to care for and enjoy, why bother mentioning something which will not affect them? Mankind was intended to be the pinnacle of creation, and will be once the plan to get us back on course has rn its course.

Were lions, tigers, crocodiles, sharks, redbacks, mosquitoes, tapeworms, poisonous plants, harmful bacteria and deadly viruses created for man to care for and enjoy? You are a foolish, foolish human being.

You are foolish enough to forget that what we see on this planet now are not necessarily what were originally created since they have spent millennia adapting to situations as they changed.

Nor are you taking into account the fact that humanity is not as we were originally created either.

Also yu ignore teh fact that, as Genesis 1 tells us, all animals were originally herbivorous, and even men only started eating meat after the flood.

Only a fool closes down options when there is no hard evidence that they should be closed down. A simple lack of evidence does not prove anything.

Only a gullible person takes any man's word for anything without researching it for themselves first, as people like me always do.


Like I have said before. Need to Know. We don't know, and we don't need to.

The mantra of the smug and self-satisfied ignorant.

No, the mantra of those who accept that filling our heads with useless knowledge is a futile exercise. we only have seriously limited powers of recall, why waste them on what we don;t need to know?

Satisfied, yes. Self satisfied, no.

Smug? Well I have a lot to be smug about, though I try not to be.


After all what better way to fertilise the ground and enjoy watching it being done?
It also gives a purpose to the creation of dinosaurs, and Jehovah does nothing without a purpose behind it.

It makes sense to a simple mind completely out of touch with reality. A very, very simple mind.

More often than not the simple answer is the best answer.

As for being simple minded maybe you should think hard about 1 Corinthians 1:26-30, which explains the sort of people that Jehovah prefers to choose to serve him. I guess you would be too proud to be thought of that way by other men.

However, as scripture tells us, the wisdom of this world, as I have demonstrated above, is infinitely more foolish than the wisdom of God, which is available to all who recognise their need for it and trust in Jehovah to supply it. James 1:5-8.

I accept my limitations and my need to lean on the help of an exponentially higher intellect than that of any human. Maybe you should also.

Foolish I may be, but at least I am not gullible enough to swallow what men tell me without questioning it to destruction, as you demonstrate very thoroughly that you are.