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Peternosaint
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3/26/2016 12:34:09 AM
Posted: 8 months ago
Agnostics are truer to themselves that evolutionists or atheists. Agnostics believe in nothing of a religious or spiritual nature, where as the others replace religion with a concoction of their own made up beliefs.

Man is reasonable, rational and religious in manner, so if man cannot find a religion that suits their need, he will invent another theory for the meaning of life and a replacement for creation.

This is my opinion, what is your opinion?
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3/26/2016 2:27:07 AM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 3/26/2016 12:34:09 AM, Peternosaint wrote:
Agnostics are truer to themselves that evolutionists or atheists. Agnostics believe in nothing of a religious or spiritual nature, where as the others replace religion with a concoction of their own made up beliefs.

So, basically, you prefer individuals that allow religious claims built on ignorance to be submitted as knowledge. Noted.

Man is reasonable, rational and religious in manner, so if man cannot find a religion that suits their need, he will invent another theory for the meaning of life and a replacement for creation.

Evolution has no genesis event so it could hardly be a replacement creation theory.

This is my opinion, what is your opinion?
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3/26/2016 3:28:57 AM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 3/26/2016 12:34:09 AM, Peternosaint wrote:
Agnostics are truer to themselves that evolutionists or atheists.

Your can have agnostic atheists or even gnostic atheists. Agnosticism is a completely different ball game to either atheism or theism or evolutionism.

Agnostics believe in nothing of a religious or spiritual nature, where as the others replace religion with a concoction of their own made up beliefs.

Not true. Agnosticism is simply the idea that one cannot possibly know the nature or existence of God. Atheism is the lack of belief or disbelief in God. Neither say anything about religion or what to replace religion with.

Man is reasonable, rational and religious in manner, so if man cannot find a religion that suits their need, he will invent another theory for the meaning of life and a replacement for creation.

True, but this has got nothing to do with religion. This is simply curiosity and self-awareness.

This is my opinion, what is your opinion?

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3/26/2016 4:16:58 AM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 3/26/2016 12:34:09 AM, Peternosaint wrote:
What is your opinion?

...that opinions without evidence are like... something smelly and useless without... uh... whatever it is that would make the smelly, useless thing practical and smell better.
Peternosaint
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3/26/2016 6:47:53 AM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 3/26/2016 2:27:07 AM, Skepticalone wrote:
At 3/26/2016 12:34:09 AM, Peternosaint wrote:
Agnostics are truer to themselves that evolutionists or atheists. Agnostics believe in nothing of a religious or spiritual nature, where as the others replace religion with a concoction of their own made up beliefs.

So, basically, you prefer individuals that allow religious claims built on ignorance to be submitted as knowledge. Noted.

Man is reasonable, rational and religious in manner, so if man cannot find a religion that suits their need, he will invent another theory for the meaning of life and a replacement for creation.

Evolution has no genesis event so it could hardly be a replacement creation theory.

This is my opinion, what is your opinion?

YOU: prefer individuals... built on ignorance
ME: A purely confrontational answer.
Peternosaint
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3/26/2016 6:53:19 AM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 3/26/2016 3:28:57 AM, AWSM0055 wrote:
At 3/26/2016 12:34:09 AM, Peternosaint wrote:
Agnostics are truer to themselves that evolutionists or atheists.

Your can have agnostic atheists or even gnostic atheists. Agnosticism is a completely different ball game to either atheism or theism or evolutionism.

Agnostics believe in nothing of a religious or spiritual nature, where as the others replace religion with a concoction of their own made up beliefs.

Not true. Agnosticism is simply the idea that one cannot possibly know the nature or existence of God. Atheism is the lack of belief or disbelief in God. Neither say anything about religion or what to replace religion with.

Man is reasonable, rational and religious in manner, so if man cannot find a religion that suits their need, he will invent another theory for the meaning of life and a replacement for creation.

True, but this has got nothing to do with religion. This is simply curiosity and self-awareness.

ME: Ever since we have had the written history of man is shows that a religion, or spiritual is a part of the general existence of man. Great amounts of wealth is spent on ensuring t he rewards of the church. Agnostics do not believe that t his is necessary, nor do they believe in creationism, nor do the believe in any of the concepts of spirituality....Nor do evolutionist or atheists, but the latter try to replace the lack of a spiritual existence with other concepts.

This is my opinion, what is your opinion?

^
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3/26/2016 7:30:47 AM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 3/26/2016 12:34:09 AM, Peternosaint wrote:
Agnostics are truer to themselves that evolutionists or atheists. Agnostics believe in nothing of a religious or spiritual nature, where as the others replace religion with a concoction of their own made up beliefs.

Man is reasonable, rational and religious in manner, so if man cannot find a religion that suits their need, he will invent another theory for the meaning of life and a replacement for creation.

This is my opinion, what is your opinion?

Judging from what you said, you seem to lack an understanding of what an evolutionist and an atheist are

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3/26/2016 7:34:32 AM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 3/26/2016 6:47:53 AM, Peternosaint wrote:
At 3/26/2016 2:27:07 AM, Skepticalone wrote:
At 3/26/2016 12:34:09 AM, Peternosaint wrote:
Agnostics are truer to themselves that evolutionists or atheists. Agnostics believe in nothing of a religious or spiritual nature, where as the others replace religion with a concoction of their own made up beliefs.

So, basically, you prefer individuals that allow religious claims built on ignorance to be submitted as knowledge. Noted.

Man is reasonable, rational and religious in manner, so if man cannot find a religion that suits their need, he will invent another theory for the meaning of life and a replacement for creation.

Evolution has no genesis event so it could hardly be a replacement creation theory.

This is my opinion, what is your opinion?

YOU: prefer individuals... built on ignorance
ME: A purely confrontational answer.

If you really considered the mantra of agnostics -god cannot be proven or disproven due to "lack of knowledge- to be "Truer than others", then you wouldn't be a believer, now would you?
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3/26/2016 9:35:22 AM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 3/26/2016 12:34:09 AM, Peternosaint wrote:
Agnostics are truer to themselves that evolutionists or atheists. Agnostics believe in nothing of a religious or spiritual nature, where as the others replace religion with a concoction of their own made up beliefs.

Man is reasonable, rational and religious in manner, so if man cannot find a religion that suits their need, he will invent another theory for the meaning of life and a replacement for creation.

This is my opinion, what is your opinion?

There is lots of evidence for evolution and no evidence for creationism. But what has that to do with theism/atheism/agnosticism?
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3/26/2016 2:13:54 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 3/26/2016 6:53:19 AM, Peternosaint wrote:
At 3/26/2016 3:28:57 AM, AWSM0055 wrote:
At 3/26/2016 12:34:09 AM, Peternosaint wrote:
Agnostics are truer to themselves that evolutionists or atheists.

Your can have agnostic atheists or even gnostic atheists. Agnosticism is a completely different ball game to either atheism or theism or evolutionism.

Agnostics believe in nothing of a religious or spiritual nature, where as the others replace religion with a concoction of their own made up beliefs.

Not true. Agnosticism is simply the idea that one cannot possibly know the nature or existence of God. Atheism is the lack of belief or disbelief in God. Neither say anything about religion or what to replace religion with.

Man is reasonable, rational and religious in manner, so if man cannot find a religion that suits their need, he will invent another theory for the meaning of life and a replacement for creation.

True, but this has got nothing to do with religion. This is simply curiosity and self-awareness.

ME: Ever since we have had the written history of man is shows that a religion, or spiritual is a part of the general existence of man.

Depends on how far back you go.

Great amounts of wealth is spent on ensuring t he rewards of the church. Agnostics do not believe that t his is necessary, nor do they believe in creationism, nor do the believe in any of the concepts of spirituality

Once again, not true. If you beleive that God exists without truly knowing it, your a agnostic atheist. If you believe in God and know it, then your a gnostic theist etc etc etc. Agnosticism, like I said, is a different ball game to theism, deism, atheism etc.

....Nor do evolutionist or atheists,

Again, not true. There are many religious evolutionists and atheist (thought rare) that consider themselves spiritual. There are even some atheistic churches etc. and even Christian evolutionists (however incorrect they actually are).

but the latter try to replace the lack of a spiritual existence with other concepts.

I don't know exactly what you mean. Replace spiritual existence (whatever that means) with other concepts? Elaborate please.

This is my opinion, what is your opinion?

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Jerry947: "They give them the option of marriage."

Matt8800: "Correct! You won idiot of the year award!"

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DanneJeRusse
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3/26/2016 2:16:25 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 3/26/2016 6:53:19 AM, Peternosaint wrote:
At 3/26/2016 3:28:57 AM, AWSM0055 wrote:
At 3/26/2016 12:34:09 AM, Peternosaint wrote:
Agnostics are truer to themselves that evolutionists or atheists.

Your can have agnostic atheists or even gnostic atheists. Agnosticism is a completely different ball game to either atheism or theism or evolutionism.

Agnostics believe in nothing of a religious or spiritual nature, where as the others replace religion with a concoction of their own made up beliefs.

Not true. Agnosticism is simply the idea that one cannot possibly know the nature or existence of God. Atheism is the lack of belief or disbelief in God. Neither say anything about religion or what to replace religion with.

Man is reasonable, rational and religious in manner, so if man cannot find a religion that suits their need, he will invent another theory for the meaning of life and a replacement for creation.

True, but this has got nothing to do with religion. This is simply curiosity and self-awareness.

ME: Ever since we have had the written history of man is shows that a religion, or spiritual is a part of the general existence of man. Great amounts of wealth is spent on ensuring t he rewards of the church. Agnostics do not believe that t his is necessary, nor do they believe in creationism, nor do the believe in any of the concepts of spirituality....Nor do evolutionist or atheists, but the latter try to replace the lack of a spiritual existence with other concepts.

Yes, we call those other concepts, "Reality"

This is my opinion, what is your opinion?

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Double_R
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3/27/2016 12:13:26 AM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 3/26/2016 12:34:09 AM, Peternosaint wrote:
Agnostics are truer to themselves that evolutionists or atheists.

I am an atheist.

I am also an agnostic.

I am also an evolutionist.

Would you like to clarify your point?
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3/27/2016 12:36:40 AM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 3/26/2016 4:16:58 AM, RuvDraba wrote:
At 3/26/2016 12:34:09 AM, Peternosaint wrote:
What is your opinion?

...that opinions without evidence are like... something smelly and useless without... uh... whatever it is that would make the smelly, useless thing practical and smell better.

I suppose sooner or later you had to come out with a post that didn't read like an articulate comprehensive thesis for your comparative religious studies doctorate.
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3/27/2016 4:18:38 AM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 3/27/2016 12:36:40 AM, Casten wrote:
At 3/26/2016 4:16:58 AM, RuvDraba wrote:
At 3/26/2016 12:34:09 AM, Peternosaint wrote:
What is your opinion?

...that opinions without evidence are like... something smelly and useless without... uh... whatever it is that would make the smelly, useless thing practical and smell better.

I suppose sooner or later you had to come out with a post that didn't read like an articulate comprehensive thesis for your comparative religious studies doctorate.
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3/27/2016 5:05:24 AM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 3/26/2016 6:53:19 AM, Peternosaint wrote:
At 3/26/2016 3:28:57 AM, AWSM0055 wrote:
At 3/26/2016 12:34:09 AM, Peternosaint wrote:
Agnostics are truer to themselves that evolutionists or atheists.

Your can have agnostic atheists or even gnostic atheists. Agnosticism is a completely different ball game to either atheism or theism or evolutionism.

Agnostics believe in nothing of a religious or spiritual nature, where as the others replace religion with a concoction of their own made up beliefs.

Not true. Agnosticism is simply the idea that one cannot possibly know the nature or existence of God. Atheism is the lack of belief or disbelief in God. Neither say anything about religion or what to replace religion with.

Man is reasonable, rational and religious in manner, so if man cannot find a religion that suits their need, he will invent another theory for the meaning of life and a replacement for creation.

True, but this has got nothing to do with religion. This is simply curiosity and self-awareness.

ME: Ever since we have had the written history of man is shows that a religion, or spiritual is a part of the general existence of man. Great amounts of wealth is spent on ensuring t he rewards of the church. Agnostics do not believe that t his is necessary, nor do they believe in creationism, nor do the believe in any of the concepts of spirituality....Nor do evolutionist or atheists, but the latter try to replace the lack of a spiritual existence with other concepts.

This is my opinion, what is your opinion?

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3/27/2016 9:51:42 AM
Posted: 8 months ago
What do you mean by "evolutionism"? You realize it isn't some sort of religion or philosophy?
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3/28/2016 9:25:08 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 3/26/2016 12:34:09 AM, Peternosaint wrote:
Agnostics are truer to themselves that evolutionists or atheists. Agnostics believe in nothing of a religious or spiritual nature, where as the others replace religion with a concoction of their own made up beliefs.

Man is reasonable, rational and religious in manner, so if man cannot find a religion that suits their need, he will invent another theory for the meaning of life and a replacement for creation.

This is my opinion, what is your opinion?

Yay, agnostics get attention!
Meh!