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3/27/2016 11:51:54 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
Atheism 101

A part of happiness and good mental health is positive thinking.

http://www.pursuit-of-happiness.org...

http://www.mayoclinic.org...

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Another part of good mental health is finding meaning and purpose in life.

https://www.psychologytoday.com...

Atheism preaches that we have no purpose, no meaning.

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Another part of good mental health is a sense of security and safety.

https://www.schneier.com...

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Atheism says we are not safe or secure. We are just dna replicaters bound for a destined end.

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A part of good mental health is a feeling of unconditional love.

https://www.psychologytoday.com...

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https://www.psychologytoday.com...

An Amazing Atheist parades his mind.

http://youtu.be...

And why would we want what you have again? Prozak anyone? Zoloft? Perhaps just a mint?

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Richard Dawkins-
"The universe that we observe has precisely the properties we should expect if there is, at bottom, no design, no purpose, no evil, no good, nothing but pitiless indifference."

How inspirational and moving. Optimism doesn't seem to be Atheism's strong suit.

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Let's look at a better option.

http://youtu.be...

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"But whoever drinks the water I give them will never thirst."
(John 4:14)

Hmmm...think I'll drink.
"What Donald Trump is doing is representing the absolute heartbreak, and anger, and frustration at a government gone mad."

http://youtu.be...
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3/28/2016 12:01:35 AM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 3/27/2016 11:53:50 PM, Leugen9001 wrote:
Bronto, Atheism doesn't teach that life lacks meaning. It's just silent on the issue.

Oh?
"What Donald Trump is doing is representing the absolute heartbreak, and anger, and frustration at a government gone mad."

http://youtu.be...
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3/28/2016 12:01:53 AM
Posted: 8 months ago
Richard Dawkins-
"The universe that we observe has precisely the properties we should expect if there is, at bottom, no design, no purpose, no evil, no good, nothing but pitiless indifference."
"What Donald Trump is doing is representing the absolute heartbreak, and anger, and frustration at a government gone mad."

http://youtu.be...
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3/28/2016 12:06:50 AM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 3/28/2016 12:01:53 AM, brontoraptor wrote:
Richard Dawkins-
"The universe that we observe has precisely the properties we should expect if there is, at bottom, no design, no purpose, no evil, no good, nothing but pitiless indifference."

An atheist might say that life has no purpose, but that does not apply to atheism itself.

In addition, there is a difference between saying that life (i.e. the world) has no purpose and saying that life (i.e. a person's life) has no meaning. A person's life can still have meaning and said person can still have goals, interests, and feel important if the former was true, but that wouldn't be the case if the latter were true. Richard Dawkins was promoting the former, rather than the latter, mode of thought.
:) nac
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3/28/2016 12:10:53 AM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 3/28/2016 12:06:50 AM, Leugen9001 wrote:
At 3/28/2016 12:01:53 AM, brontoraptor wrote:
Richard Dawkins-
"The universe that we observe has precisely the properties we should expect if there is, at bottom, no design, no purpose, no evil, no good, nothing but pitiless indifference."

An atheist might say that life has no purpose, but that does not apply to atheism itself.

In addition, there is a difference between saying that life (i.e. the world) has no purpose and saying that life (i.e. a person's life) has no meaning. A person's life can still have meaning and said person can still have goals, interests, and feel important if the former was true, but that wouldn't be the case if the latter were true. Richard Dawkins was promoting the former, rather than the latter, mode of thought.

He always infers that atheism is the "logical" choice. Is it if a better option is available? Wouldn't it be the less logical choice?
"What Donald Trump is doing is representing the absolute heartbreak, and anger, and frustration at a government gone mad."

http://youtu.be...
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3/28/2016 12:13:13 AM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 3/28/2016 12:10:53 AM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 3/28/2016 12:06:50 AM, Leugen9001 wrote:
At 3/28/2016 12:01:53 AM, brontoraptor wrote:
Richard Dawkins-
"The universe that we observe has precisely the properties we should expect if there is, at bottom, no design, no purpose, no evil, no good, nothing but pitiless indifference."

An atheist might say that life has no purpose, but that does not apply to atheism itself.

In addition, there is a difference between saying that life (i.e. the world) has no purpose and saying that life (i.e. a person's life) has no meaning. A person's life can still have meaning and said person can still have goals, interests, and feel important if the former was true, but that wouldn't be the case if the latter were true. Richard Dawkins was promoting the former, rather than the latter, mode of thought.

He always infers that atheism is the "logical" choice. Is it if a better option is available? Wouldn't it be the less logical choice?

That is irrelevant. Now, when Dawkins talked about atheism as the "logical" choice, he meant that it was the choice which had ideas that were more logically sound. I've got the feeling that you're trying to do cross ex and conflating the concepts of better as in "the ideas are logically better" and "the religious orientation is better for the believer".
:) nac
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3/28/2016 12:27:12 AM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 3/27/2016 11:51:54 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
Atheism 101
Atheism = rejection of your claim that gods exist.
You're right, it offers nothing and never attempts to.
It answers ONE question. duh
Religion is just mind control. George Carlin
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3/28/2016 12:28:14 AM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 3/28/2016 12:13:13 AM, Leugen9001 wrote:
At 3/28/2016 12:10:53 AM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 3/28/2016 12:06:50 AM, Leugen9001 wrote:
At 3/28/2016 12:01:53 AM, brontoraptor wrote:
Richard Dawkins-
"The universe that we observe has precisely the properties we should expect if there is, at bottom, no design, no purpose, no evil, no good, nothing but pitiless indifference."

An atheist might say that life has no purpose, but that does not apply to atheism itself.

In addition, there is a difference between saying that life (i.e. the world) has no purpose and saying that life (i.e. a person's life) has no meaning. A person's life can still have meaning and said person can still have goals, interests, and feel important if the former was true, but that wouldn't be the case if the latter were true. Richard Dawkins was promoting the former, rather than the latter, mode of thought.

He always infers that atheism is the "logical" choice. Is it if a better option is available? Wouldn't it be the less logical choice?

That is irrelevant. Now, when Dawkins talked about atheism as the "logical" choice, he meant that it was the choice which had ideas that were more logically sound. I've got the feeling that you're trying to do cross ex and conflating the concepts of better as in "the ideas are logically better" and "the religious orientation is better for the believer".

Let's say we pass away and wake up somewhere safe and eternal. Which option is better? And if ours gives hope isn't it better either way?
"What Donald Trump is doing is representing the absolute heartbreak, and anger, and frustration at a government gone mad."

http://youtu.be...
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3/28/2016 12:29:40 AM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 3/28/2016 12:27:12 AM, bulproof wrote:
At 3/27/2016 11:51:54 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
Atheism 101
Atheism = rejection of your claim that gods exist.
You're right, it offers nothing and never attempts to.
It answers ONE question. duh

So why would I want what is on your plate? There's nothing on it.
"What Donald Trump is doing is representing the absolute heartbreak, and anger, and frustration at a government gone mad."

http://youtu.be...
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3/28/2016 12:33:57 AM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 3/28/2016 12:29:40 AM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 3/28/2016 12:27:12 AM, bulproof wrote:
At 3/27/2016 11:51:54 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
Atheism 101
Atheism = rejection of your claim that gods exist.
You're right, it offers nothing and never attempts to.
It answers ONE question. duh

So why would I want what is on your plate? There's nothing on it.
I don't give a rat's toss what you want, you lack the intelligence to be an atheist and that is precisely why you are a godbotherer.
Religion is just mind control. George Carlin
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3/28/2016 12:36:11 AM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 3/28/2016 12:33:57 AM, bulproof wrote:
At 3/28/2016 12:29:40 AM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 3/28/2016 12:27:12 AM, bulproof wrote:
At 3/27/2016 11:51:54 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
Atheism 101
Atheism = rejection of your claim that gods exist.
You're right, it offers nothing and never attempts to.
It answers ONE question. duh

So why would I want what is on your plate? There's nothing on it.
I don't give a rat's toss what you want, you lack the intelligence to be an atheist and that is precisely why you are a godbotherer.

You already know the highest IQ's on Earth aren't Atheists. Maybe it's the other way around.
"What Donald Trump is doing is representing the absolute heartbreak, and anger, and frustration at a government gone mad."

http://youtu.be...
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3/28/2016 12:37:35 AM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 3/28/2016 12:33:57 AM, bulproof wrote:
At 3/28/2016 12:29:40 AM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 3/28/2016 12:27:12 AM, bulproof wrote:
At 3/27/2016 11:51:54 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
Atheism 101
Atheism = rejection of your claim that gods exist.
You're right, it offers nothing and never attempts to.
It answers ONE question. duh

So why would I want what is on your plate? There's nothing on it.
I don't give a rat's toss what you want, you lack the intelligence to be an atheist and that is precisely why you are a godbotherer.

Have you noticed the radical shift in the world bull? Are you guys going to stay in the EU?
"What Donald Trump is doing is representing the absolute heartbreak, and anger, and frustration at a government gone mad."

http://youtu.be...
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3/28/2016 12:39:32 AM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 3/28/2016 12:28:14 AM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 3/28/2016 12:13:13 AM, Leugen9001 wrote:
At 3/28/2016 12:10:53 AM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 3/28/2016 12:06:50 AM, Leugen9001 wrote:
At 3/28/2016 12:01:53 AM, brontoraptor wrote:
Richard Dawkins-
"The universe that we observe has precisely the properties we should expect if there is, at bottom, no design, no purpose, no evil, no good, nothing but pitiless indifference."

An atheist might say that life has no purpose, but that does not apply to atheism itself.

In addition, there is a difference between saying that life (i.e. the world) has no purpose and saying that life (i.e. a person's life) has no meaning. A person's life can still have meaning and said person can still have goals, interests, and feel important if the former was true, but that wouldn't be the case if the latter were true. Richard Dawkins was promoting the former, rather than the latter, mode of thought.

He always infers that atheism is the "logical" choice. Is it if a better option is available? Wouldn't it be the less logical choice?

That is irrelevant. Now, when Dawkins talked about atheism as the "logical" choice, he meant that it was the choice which had ideas that were more logically sound. I've got the feeling that you're trying to do cross ex and conflating the concepts of better as in "the ideas are logically better" and "the religious orientation is better for the believer".

Let's say we pass away and wake up somewhere safe and eternal. Which option is better? And if ours gives hope isn't it better either way?

Better for the believer or better logically?
:) nac
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3/28/2016 12:39:50 AM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 3/28/2016 12:36:11 AM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 3/28/2016 12:33:57 AM, bulproof wrote:
At 3/28/2016 12:29:40 AM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 3/28/2016 12:27:12 AM, bulproof wrote:
At 3/27/2016 11:51:54 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
Atheism 101
Atheism = rejection of your claim that gods exist.
You're right, it offers nothing and never attempts to.
It answers ONE question. duh

So why would I want what is on your plate? There's nothing on it.
I don't give a rat's toss what you want, you lack the intelligence to be an atheist and that is precisely why you are a godbotherer.

You already know the highest IQ's on Earth aren't Atheists. Maybe it's the other way around.
You might have missed it, we were talking about YOU.
It's no wonder you believe the sh*t you do, you are terminally bewildered.
Religion is just mind control. George Carlin
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3/28/2016 12:42:04 AM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 3/28/2016 12:29:40 AM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 3/28/2016 12:27:12 AM, bulproof wrote:
At 3/27/2016 11:51:54 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
Atheism 101
Atheism = rejection of your claim that gods exist.
You're right, it offers nothing and never attempts to.
It answers ONE question. duh

So why would I want what is on your plate? There's nothing on it.

Reality doesn't care what you want. There either is a God or there is not a God. Your desire for some externally imposed purpose and inspiration in your life has no impact on that whatsoever. The only difference between you and an atheist is that atheists tend to understand this fact, while you are stuck framing this as an emotional choice.
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3/28/2016 12:43:31 AM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 3/28/2016 12:39:50 AM, bulproof wrote:
At 3/28/2016 12:36:11 AM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 3/28/2016 12:33:57 AM, bulproof wrote:
At 3/28/2016 12:29:40 AM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 3/28/2016 12:27:12 AM, bulproof wrote:
At 3/27/2016 11:51:54 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
Atheism 101
Atheism = rejection of your claim that gods exist.
You're right, it offers nothing and never attempts to.
It answers ONE question. duh

So why would I want what is on your plate? There's nothing on it.
I don't give a rat's toss what you want, you lack the intelligence to be an atheist and that is precisely why you are a godbotherer.

You already know the highest IQ's on Earth aren't Atheists. Maybe it's the other way around.
You might have missed it, we were talking about YOU.
It's no wonder you believe the sh*t you do, you are terminally bewildered.

Some people say the same about you. How many times were you banned from DDO?
"What Donald Trump is doing is representing the absolute heartbreak, and anger, and frustration at a government gone mad."

http://youtu.be...
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3/28/2016 12:45:43 AM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 3/28/2016 12:42:04 AM, Double_R wrote:
At 3/28/2016 12:29:40 AM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 3/28/2016 12:27:12 AM, bulproof wrote:
At 3/27/2016 11:51:54 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
Atheism 101
Atheism = rejection of your claim that gods exist.
You're right, it offers nothing and never attempts to.
It answers ONE question. duh

So why would I want what is on your plate? There's nothing on it.

Reality doesn't care what you want. There either is a God or there is not a God. Your desire for some externally imposed purpose and inspiration in your life has no impact on that whatsoever. The only difference between you and an atheist is that atheists tend to understand this fact, while you are stuck framing this as an emotional choice.

It's actually a logical choice. Kalam argument, fermi paradox. Atheism is philosophically impossible, thus looking up is not an emotional choice, but rather a logical choice.
"What Donald Trump is doing is representing the absolute heartbreak, and anger, and frustration at a government gone mad."

http://youtu.be...
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3/28/2016 12:46:36 AM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 3/28/2016 12:39:32 AM, Leugen9001 wrote:
At 3/28/2016 12:28:14 AM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 3/28/2016 12:13:13 AM, Leugen9001 wrote:
At 3/28/2016 12:10:53 AM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 3/28/2016 12:06:50 AM, Leugen9001 wrote:
At 3/28/2016 12:01:53 AM, brontoraptor wrote:
Richard Dawkins-
"The universe that we observe has precisely the properties we should expect if there is, at bottom, no design, no purpose, no evil, no good, nothing but pitiless indifference."

An atheist might say that life has no purpose, but that does not apply to atheism itself.

In addition, there is a difference between saying that life (i.e. the world) has no purpose and saying that life (i.e. a person's life) has no meaning. A person's life can still have meaning and said person can still have goals, interests, and feel important if the former was true, but that wouldn't be the case if the latter were true. Richard Dawkins was promoting the former, rather than the latter, mode of thought.

He always infers that atheism is the "logical" choice. Is it if a better option is available? Wouldn't it be the less logical choice?

That is irrelevant. Now, when Dawkins talked about atheism as the "logical" choice, he meant that it was the choice which had ideas that were more logically sound. I've got the feeling that you're trying to do cross ex and conflating the concepts of better as in "the ideas are logically better" and "the religious orientation is better for the believer".

Let's say we pass away and wake up somewhere safe and eternal. Which option is better? And if ours gives hope isn't it better either way?

Better for the believer or better logically?

Both
"What Donald Trump is doing is representing the absolute heartbreak, and anger, and frustration at a government gone mad."

http://youtu.be...
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3/28/2016 12:48:51 AM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 3/28/2016 12:45:43 AM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 3/28/2016 12:42:04 AM, Double_R wrote:
At 3/28/2016 12:29:40 AM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 3/28/2016 12:27:12 AM, bulproof wrote:
At 3/27/2016 11:51:54 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
Atheism 101
Atheism = rejection of your claim that gods exist.
You're right, it offers nothing and never attempts to.
It answers ONE question. duh

So why would I want what is on your plate? There's nothing on it.

Reality doesn't care what you want. There either is a God or there is not a God. Your desire for some externally imposed purpose and inspiration in your life has no impact on that whatsoever. The only difference between you and an atheist is that atheists tend to understand this fact, while you are stuck framing this as an emotional choice.

It's actually a logical choice. Kalam argument, fermi paradox. Atheism is philosophically impossible, thus looking up is not an emotional choice, but rather a logical choice.

Kalam and fermi are complete nonsense arguments for the existence of a God. But regardless, if you recognize that theism/atheism is (or at least should be) the result of logic then why do you start a thread built on an appeal to emotion?
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3/28/2016 12:54:14 AM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 3/28/2016 12:48:51 AM, Double_R wrote:
At 3/28/2016 12:45:43 AM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 3/28/2016 12:42:04 AM, Double_R wrote:
At 3/28/2016 12:29:40 AM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 3/28/2016 12:27:12 AM, bulproof wrote:
At 3/27/2016 11:51:54 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
Atheism 101
Atheism = rejection of your claim that gods exist.
You're right, it offers nothing and never attempts to.
It answers ONE question. duh

So why would I want what is on your plate? There's nothing on it.

Reality doesn't care what you want. There either is a God or there is not a God. Your desire for some externally imposed purpose and inspiration in your life has no impact on that whatsoever. The only difference between you and an atheist is that atheists tend to understand this fact, while you are stuck framing this as an emotional choice.

It's actually a logical choice. Kalam argument, fermi paradox. Atheism is philosophically impossible, thus looking up is not an emotional choice, but rather a logical choice.

Kalam and fermi are complete nonsense arguments for the existence of a God. But regardless, if you recognize that theism/atheism is (or at least should be) the result of logic then why do you start a thread built on an appeal to emotion?

Psychology is a scientific construct. In the psychological hierarchy of needs Atheism meets almost none of these needs for good, natural mental health. Christianity does. So why Atheism?
"What Donald Trump is doing is representing the absolute heartbreak, and anger, and frustration at a government gone mad."

http://youtu.be...
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3/28/2016 1:01:31 AM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 3/28/2016 12:54:14 AM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 3/28/2016 12:48:51 AM, Double_R wrote:
At 3/28/2016 12:45:43 AM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 3/28/2016 12:42:04 AM, Double_R wrote:
At 3/28/2016 12:29:40 AM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 3/28/2016 12:27:12 AM, bulproof wrote:
At 3/27/2016 11:51:54 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
Atheism 101
Atheism = rejection of your claim that gods exist.
You're right, it offers nothing and never attempts to.
It answers ONE question. duh

So why would I want what is on your plate? There's nothing on it.

Reality doesn't care what you want. There either is a God or there is not a God. Your desire for some externally imposed purpose and inspiration in your life has no impact on that whatsoever. The only difference between you and an atheist is that atheists tend to understand this fact, while you are stuck framing this as an emotional choice.

It's actually a logical choice. Kalam argument, fermi paradox. Atheism is philosophically impossible, thus looking up is not an emotional choice, but rather a logical choice.

Kalam and fermi are complete nonsense arguments for the existence of a God. But regardless, if you recognize that theism/atheism is (or at least should be) the result of logic then why do you start a thread built on an appeal to emotion?

Psychology is a scientific construct. In the psychological hierarchy of needs Atheism meets almost none of these needs for good, natural mental health. Christianity does. So why Atheism?

Didn't we already go through this?

Bronto, do you or do you not view belief in God as a result of rational inquiry (regarding the facts, evidence, or argument for or against the proposition "God exists"), or as the result of an emotional choice? Pick one, then continue.
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3/28/2016 1:06:54 AM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 3/28/2016 1:01:31 AM, Double_R wrote:
At 3/28/2016 12:54:14 AM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 3/28/2016 12:48:51 AM, Double_R wrote:
At 3/28/2016 12:45:43 AM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 3/28/2016 12:42:04 AM, Double_R wrote:
At 3/28/2016 12:29:40 AM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 3/28/2016 12:27:12 AM, bulproof wrote:
At 3/27/2016 11:51:54 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
Atheism 101
Atheism = rejection of your claim that gods exist.
You're right, it offers nothing and never attempts to.
It answers ONE question. duh

So why would I want what is on your plate? There's nothing on it.

Reality doesn't care what you want. There either is a God or there is not a God. Your desire for some externally imposed purpose and inspiration in your life has no impact on that whatsoever. The only difference between you and an atheist is that atheists tend to understand this fact, while you are stuck framing this as an emotional choice.

It's actually a logical choice. Kalam argument, fermi paradox. Atheism is philosophically impossible, thus looking up is not an emotional choice, but rather a logical choice.

Kalam and fermi are complete nonsense arguments for the existence of a God. But regardless, if you recognize that theism/atheism is (or at least should be) the result of logic then why do you start a thread built on an appeal to emotion?

Psychology is a scientific construct. In the psychological hierarchy of needs Atheism meets almost none of these needs for good, natural mental health. Christianity does. So why Atheism?

Didn't we already go through this?

Bronto, do you or do you not view belief in God as a result of rational inquiry (regarding the facts, evidence, or argument for or against the proposition "God exists"), or as the result of an emotional choice? Pick one, then continue.

It's a choice. All you have to do is look at the prophecies and reality and have plenty of reason for belief. The highest IQ's on Earth are theists. Atheism isn't a belief that stems from logic. Quite the opposite. It's a rejection of hope, psychological victory, and fixation on negative belief systems. Atheism started getting its way in the West and guess what. The world has gone to hell. Shy? Atheism has no foundation. No unity. No anything. Just pitiless indifference.
"What Donald Trump is doing is representing the absolute heartbreak, and anger, and frustration at a government gone mad."

http://youtu.be...
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3/28/2016 1:09:55 AM
Posted: 8 months ago
Top IQ's are theists. That's just reality. Intellect would say take the better offer. Atheists don't actually want the offer whether it's true or not.

http://www.examiner.com...
"What Donald Trump is doing is representing the absolute heartbreak, and anger, and frustration at a government gone mad."

http://youtu.be...
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3/28/2016 1:45:47 AM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 3/28/2016 1:06:54 AM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 3/28/2016 1:01:31 AM, Double_R wrote:
Didn't we already go through this?

Bronto, do you or do you not view belief in God as a result of rational inquiry (regarding the facts, evidence, or argument for or against the proposition "God exists"), or as the result of an emotional choice? Pick one, then continue.

It's a choice.

Is whether God exists, a choice? Yes or No?
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3/28/2016 1:48:36 AM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 3/28/2016 1:09:55 AM, brontoraptor wrote:
Top IQ's are theists. That's just reality. Intellect would say take the better offer. Atheists don't actually want the offer whether it's true or not.

http://www.examiner.com...

First of all the fact that atheists make up about 16% of the world population and 20% of the worlds top ten IQ's does nothing to make your case. Second, you can cherry pick whatever data you want, when the subject is looked at on a grand scale religiosity and IQ scores do not correlate in the way you seem to think...

https://en.wikipedia.org...
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3/28/2016 2:02:51 AM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 3/28/2016 1:48:36 AM, Double_R wrote:
At 3/28/2016 1:09:55 AM, brontoraptor wrote:
Top IQ's are theists. That's just reality. Intellect would say take the better offer. Atheists don't actually want the offer whether it's true or not.

http://www.examiner.com...

First of all the fact that atheists make up about 16% of the world population and 20% of the worlds top ten IQ's does nothing to make your case. Second, you can cherry pick whatever data you want, when the subject is looked at on a grand scale religiosity and IQ scores do not correlate in the way you seem to think...

https://en.wikipedia.org...

It has nothing to do with IQ. It's a choice. Either way is faith based. There are brilliant people of every faith or lack thereof. Atheists have simply made a choice. William Lane Craig is brilliant. He believes. And there are others. Atheism has nothing to do with logic or intellectualism. I've watched youtube Atheist rants and quickly realised the person had the brains of a toilet brush.
"What Donald Trump is doing is representing the absolute heartbreak, and anger, and frustration at a government gone mad."

http://youtu.be...
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3/28/2016 2:04:36 AM
Posted: 8 months ago
Here's an Atheist. All I see is a scatter brained, angry, crazy, unguided headcase with no fpundation.

http://youtu.be...
"What Donald Trump is doing is representing the absolute heartbreak, and anger, and frustration at a government gone mad."

http://youtu.be...
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3/28/2016 2:09:02 AM
Posted: 8 months ago
Here's an atheist angrily coming after William Lane Craig. Which is the intellectual in this exchange?

http://youtu.be...
"What Donald Trump is doing is representing the absolute heartbreak, and anger, and frustration at a government gone mad."

http://youtu.be...