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4/9/2016 3:31:25 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
666 was written in Greek. Arab reading people say 666 is Arabic, but it's not. It was written in Greek. Yet Aarabic readers can read 666 in Greek but in their language. For they are one in the same. The Greek symbols say 666 in Grekk. In Arabic they say "In the name of Allah". Or so is the claim. You decide.

http://youtu.be...
"What Donald Trump is doing is representing the absolute heartbreak, and anger, and frustration at a government gone mad."

http://youtu.be...
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4/9/2016 4:58:23 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 4/9/2016 3:31:25 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
666 was written in Greek. Arab reading people say 666 is Arabic, but it's not. It was written in Greek. Yet Aarabic readers can read 666 in Greek but in their language. For they are one in the same. The Greek symbols say 666 in Grekk. In Arabic they say "In the name of Allah". Or so is the claim. You decide.

http://youtu.be...

69 is far more fun.
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4/9/2016 5:14:46 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 4/9/2016 3:31:25 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
666 was written in Greek. Arab reading people say 666 is Arabic, but it's not. It was written in Greek. Yet Aarabic readers can read 666 in Greek but in their language. For they are one in the same. The Greek symbols say 666 in Grekk. In Arabic they say "In the name of Allah". Or so is the claim. You decide.

http://youtu.be...

do you mean the Greek Alphabet is the same with Arabic's?
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4/9/2016 5:28:10 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 4/9/2016 5:14:46 PM, uncung wrote:
At 4/9/2016 3:31:25 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
666 was written in Greek. Arab reading people say 666 is Arabic, but it's not. It was written in Greek. Yet Aarabic readers can read 666 in Greek but in their language. For they are one in the same. The Greek symbols say 666 in Grekk. In Arabic they say "In the name of Allah". Or so is the claim. You decide.

http://youtu.be...

do you mean the Greek Alphabet is the same with Arabic's?

Paets of it. In the Bible God shows the author of Revelation(John) the mark of the beast. John describes it as a riddle, mysterious, somethingto be figured out. He tells us it is both a number and a name. The ex Muslim in the video says in Greek the symbols say 666. In Arabic the same symbols say "In the name of Allah".
"What Donald Trump is doing is representing the absolute heartbreak, and anger, and frustration at a government gone mad."

http://youtu.be...
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4/9/2016 5:36:22 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 4/9/2016 5:28:10 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 4/9/2016 5:14:46 PM, uncung wrote:
At 4/9/2016 3:31:25 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
666 was written in Greek. Arab reading people say 666 is Arabic, but it's not. It was written in Greek. Yet Aarabic readers can read 666 in Greek but in their language. For they are one in the same. The Greek symbols say 666 in Grekk. In Arabic they say "In the name of Allah". Or so is the claim. You decide.

http://youtu.be...

do you mean the Greek Alphabet is the same with Arabic's?

Paets of it. In the Bible God shows the author of Revelation(John) the mark of the beast. John describes it as a riddle, mysterious, somethingto be figured out. He tells us it is both a number and a name. The ex Muslim in the video says in Greek the symbols say 666. In Arabic the same symbols say "In the name of Allah".

But Jesus spoke in Aramaic how could it be the earlier Bible was available in Greek? It indicates the Bible has nothing to do with Jesus. It could be a Hellenist book product since one would not hear the Israel Palestine names such Luke, Tomas, Peter Magdalena, Rebecca and so on. In this case the symbol 666 was an undivine thing but rather a fabricated one by Greek people.
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4/9/2016 5:42:46 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 4/9/2016 5:36:22 PM, uncung wrote:
At 4/9/2016 5:28:10 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 4/9/2016 5:14:46 PM, uncung wrote:
At 4/9/2016 3:31:25 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
666 was written in Greek. Arab reading people say 666 is Arabic, but it's not. It was written in Greek. Yet Aarabic readers can read 666 in Greek but in their language. For they are one in the same. The Greek symbols say 666 in Grekk. In Arabic they say "In the name of Allah". Or so is the claim. You decide.

http://youtu.be...

do you mean the Greek Alphabet is the same with Arabic's?

Paets of it. In the Bible God shows the author of Revelation(John) the mark of the beast. John describes it as a riddle, mysterious, somethingto be figured out. He tells us it is both a number and a name. The ex Muslim in the video says in Greek the symbols say 666. In Arabic the same symbols say "In the name of Allah".

But Jesus spoke in Aramaic how could it be the earlier Bible was available in Greek? It indicates the Bible has nothing to do with Jesus. It could be a Hellenist book product since one would not hear the Israel Palestine names such Luke, Tomas, Peter Magdalena, Rebecca and so on. In this case the symbol 666 was an undivine thing but rather a fabricated one by Greek people.

They were under the rule of the Romans. Jesus was crucified on a Roman cross. John wrote Revelation in Greek.
"What Donald Trump is doing is representing the absolute heartbreak, and anger, and frustration at a government gone mad."

http://youtu.be...
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4/9/2016 5:45:23 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 4/9/2016 5:36:22 PM, uncung wrote:
At 4/9/2016 5:28:10 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 4/9/2016 5:14:46 PM, uncung wrote:
At 4/9/2016 3:31:25 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
666 was written in Greek. Arab reading people say 666 is Arabic, but it's not. It was written in Greek. Yet Aarabic readers can read 666 in Greek but in their language. For they are one in the same. The Greek symbols say 666 in Grekk. In Arabic they say "In the name of Allah". Or so is the claim. You decide.

http://youtu.be...

do you mean the Greek Alphabet is the same with Arabic's?

Paets of it. In the Bible God shows the author of Revelation(John) the mark of the beast. John describes it as a riddle, mysterious, somethingto be figured out. He tells us it is both a number and a name. The ex Muslim in the video says in Greek the symbols say 666. In Arabic the same symbols say "In the name of Allah".

But Jesus spoke in Aramaic how could it be the earlier Bible was available in Greek? It indicates the Bible has nothing to do with Jesus. It could be a Hellenist book product since one would not hear the Israel Palestine names such Luke, Tomas, Peter Magdalena, Rebecca and so on. In this case the symbol 666 was an undivine thing but rather a fabricated one by Greek people.

The Bible was definitely divinely inspired.
"What Donald Trump is doing is representing the absolute heartbreak, and anger, and frustration at a government gone mad."

http://youtu.be...
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4/9/2016 5:45:45 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
Round 3

Why is Christianity true?

Islam fulfills the Bible's prophetic guideline in reference to the Antichrist in too many improbable ways to imagine.

Christians were given a guideline concerning the Antichrist who will come in the end of days. Muslims have a guideline for what to look for in the coming Mahdi(Islamic messiah). By a defiance of all probability and odds, they both are described in the same way.

Christians are looking for a man fitting these descriptions who is Satan incarnate who will come to destroy the Christians and the Jews. Muslims are looking for a man who fits these characteristics who will destroy the Christians and the Jews.

1)Both become the universal leader for all.
2). Both Will rule the entire world.
3). Both will conquer Israel.
4). Both establish headquarters in Jerusalem.
5). Both eill make a seven year peace treaty with Israel.
6). Both will rule for seven years.
7).Both cause only their religion to be the practiced religion.
8). Both distribute wealth to the populace.
9). Both will be a powerful and unprecedented military and political leader.
10). Both will be given supernatural power over nature.
11). Both arrive on the scene after a period of great turmoil.
12). Both will establish a new world order/government.
13). Both will wage war against Jews and Christians.
14)Both are declared "Messiah".

Jesus Himself gave a warning to God's children in the end of days.
"So if someone tells you, 'Look, the Messiah is out in the desert,' don't bother to go or look. Or, 'Look, he is here,' do not believe it!"

The Mahdi, of course, will appear in Mecca, which is in the middle of nowhere and in the desert.

*

-The Qur'an mentions that in the end of days "the Beast" will address the unbelievers and admonish them for their lack of attention towards God.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org...

"And when the Word is fulfilled against them, the unjust, we shall produce from the earth a beast to face them: He will speak to them, for that mankind did not believe with assurance in Our Signs."

"R01;Qur'an, sura 27 (An-Naml), ayat 82

The Bible uses the exact term "the beast" in describing the Antichrist.

*

"The beast will strike the head, and it will be brighten the face of the believer with the staff and "He is destined for Paradise" will be written on his forehead."

https://en.m.wikipedia.org...

In the Bible, the beast (Antichrist), marks the foreheads of his followers.

http://www.raptureready.com...

"And I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded because of their testimony about Jesus and because of the word of God. They had not worshiped the beast or its image and had not received its mark on their foreheads."
(Revelation 20:4)

Christians are being killed in mass, targeted, and beheaded by ISIS.

http://www.ijreview.com...

*

"Damascus will become a heap of ruins."
(Isaiah 17:1)

After the Syrian conflict, here is Damascus today. A heap of ruins.

http://youtu.be...

*

`68; "And Jerusalem was divided into three parts, and the cities of the nations then began to fall."
(Revelation 16:19)

Jerusalem is divided into Jewish, Muslim, and Christian.

http://moira.meccahosting.com...

*
What is antichrist?

"It is whoever denies that Jesus is the Christ. Such a person is the ANTICHRIST--denying the Father and the Son."
(1 John 2:22)

The Quran specifically says Jesus is not the Christ, nor the "Son of God".

https://carm.org...

*

"The second beast was given power to give breath to the image of the first beast, so that the image could speak and cause all who refused to bow to the IMAGE to be killed."
(Revelation 13:15)

*

"The great river Euphrates, and its water was dried up to prepare the way for the army to cross."
(Revelation 16:12)

The water is so dangerously low that ISIS is crossing at will.

http://youtu.be...

https://www.foreignaffairs.com...

*

Criteria of the religion of Antichrist.

-Bow to an image.

http://youtu.be...

What are they actually bowing to? The black stone. (Pictures)

http://www.crystalinks.com...

-The image "speaks".

"Thus Allah wrote this confirmation. And this stone opened its mouth upon the order of Allah, who put that confirmation in it."

https://en.m.wikipedia.org...

-Nonworship = death.

http://youtu.be...

Has an infallable prophet who denounces Christ.

http://youtu.be...

Muhammed, the infallable great Prophet denounced Christ in the Quran.

*

Islamic tradition holds that the Black Stone fell from Heaven.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org...

(Satan fell from Heaven)(Luke 10:18)

666? Greek to Arabic.

http://youtu.be...

666? Take a close look for 666 as you would know it. Is God telling us something?

http://youtu.be...
"What Donald Trump is doing is representing the absolute heartbreak, and anger, and frustration at a government gone mad."

http://youtu.be...
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4/9/2016 5:49:58 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 4/9/2016 5:45:45 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
Round 3

Why is Christianity true?

Islam fulfills the Bible's prophetic guideline in reference to the Antichrist in too many improbable ways to imagine.

Christians were given a guideline concerning the Antichrist who will come in the end of days. Muslims have a guideline for what to look for in the coming Mahdi(Islamic messiah). By a defiance of all probability and odds, they both are described in the same way.

Christians are looking for a man fitting these descriptions who is Satan incarnate who will come to destroy the Christians and the Jews. Muslims are looking for a man who fits these characteristics who will destroy the Christians and the Jews.

1)Both become the universal leader for all.
2). Both Will rule the entire world.
3). Both will conquer Israel.
4). Both establish headquarters in Jerusalem.
5). Both eill make a seven year peace treaty with Israel.
6). Both will rule for seven years.
7).Both cause only their religion to be the practiced religion.
8). Both distribute wealth to the populace.
9). Both will be a powerful and unprecedented military and political leader.
10). Both will be given supernatural power over nature.
11). Both arrive on the scene after a period of great turmoil.
12). Both will establish a new world order/government.
13). Both will wage war against Jews and Christians.
14)Both are declared "Messiah".

Jesus Himself gave a warning to God's children in the end of days.
"So if someone tells you, 'Look, the Messiah is out in the desert,' don't bother to go or look. Or, 'Look, he is here,' do not believe it!"

The Mahdi, of course, will appear in Mecca, which is in the middle of nowhere and in the desert.

*

-The Qur'an mentions that in the end of days "the Beast" will address the unbelievers and admonish them for their lack of attention towards God.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org...


"And when the Word is fulfilled against them, the unjust, we shall produce from the earth a beast to face them: He will speak to them, for that mankind did not believe with assurance in Our Signs."

"R01;Qur'an, sura 27 (An-Naml), ayat 82

The Bible uses the exact term "the beast" in describing the Antichrist.

*

"The beast will strike the head, and it will be brighten the face of the believer with the staff and "He is destined for Paradise" will be written on his forehead."

https://en.m.wikipedia.org...

In the Bible, the beast (Antichrist), marks the foreheads of his followers.

http://www.raptureready.com...

"And I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded because of their testimony about Jesus and because of the word of God. They had not worshiped the beast or its image and had not received its mark on their foreheads."
(Revelation 20:4)

Christians are being killed in mass, targeted, and beheaded by ISIS.

http://www.ijreview.com...

*

"Damascus will become a heap of ruins."
(Isaiah 17:1)

After the Syrian conflict, here is Damascus today. A heap of ruins.

http://youtu.be...

*

`68; "And Jerusalem was divided into three parts, and the cities of the nations then began to fall."
(Revelation 16:19)

Jerusalem is divided into Jewish, Muslim, and Christian.

http://moira.meccahosting.com...

*
What is antichrist?

"It is whoever denies that Jesus is the Christ. Such a person is the ANTICHRIST--denying the Father and the Son."
(1 John 2:22)

The Quran specifically says Jesus is not the Christ, nor the "Son of God".

https://carm.org...

*

"The second beast was given power to give breath to the image of the first beast, so that the image could speak and cause all who refused to bow to the IMAGE to be killed."
(Revelation 13:15)

*

"The great river Euphrates, and its water was dried up to prepare the way for the army to cross."
(Revelation 16:12)

The water is so dangerously low that ISIS is crossing at will.

http://youtu.be...

https://www.foreignaffairs.com...

*

Criteria of the religion of Antichrist.

-Bow to an image.

http://youtu.be...

What are they actually bowing to? The black stone. (Pictures)

http://www.crystalinks.com...

-The image "speaks".

"Thus Allah wrote this confirmation. And this stone opened its mouth upon the order of Allah, who put that confirmation in it."

https://en.m.wikipedia.org...

-Nonworship = death.

http://youtu.be...

Has an infallable prophet who denounces Christ.

http://youtu.be...

Muhammed, the infallable great Prophet denounced Christ in the Quran.

*

Islamic tradition holds that the Black Stone fell from Heaven.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org...

(Satan fell from Heaven)(Luke 10:18)

666? Greek to Arabic.

http://youtu.be...

666? Take a close look for 666 as you would know it. Is God telling us something?

http://youtu.be...

prophecies have nothing to do with the truth. The Bible is not the sole source that provide bunch of prophecies.
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4/9/2016 5:50:49 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 4/9/2016 5:45:23 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 4/9/2016 5:36:22 PM, uncung wrote:
At 4/9/2016 5:28:10 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 4/9/2016 5:14:46 PM, uncung wrote:
At 4/9/2016 3:31:25 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
666 was written in Greek. Arab reading people say 666 is Arabic, but it's not. It was written in Greek. Yet Aarabic readers can read 666 in Greek but in their language. For they are one in the same. The Greek symbols say 666 in Grekk. In Arabic they say "In the name of Allah". Or so is the claim. You decide.

http://youtu.be...

do you mean the Greek Alphabet is the same with Arabic's?

Paets of it. In the Bible God shows the author of Revelation(John) the mark of the beast. John describes it as a riddle, mysterious, somethingto be figured out. He tells us it is both a number and a name. The ex Muslim in the video says in Greek the symbols say 666. In Arabic the same symbols say "In the name of Allah".

But Jesus spoke in Aramaic how could it be the earlier Bible was available in Greek? It indicates the Bible has nothing to do with Jesus. It could be a Hellenist book product since one would not hear the Israel Palestine names such Luke, Tomas, Peter Magdalena, Rebecca and so on. In this case the symbol 666 was an undivine thing but rather a fabricated one by Greek people.

The Bible was definitely divinely inspired.

how do you know it was inspired yet you don't know who wrote it?
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4/9/2016 6:04:03 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 4/9/2016 5:50:49 PM, uncung wrote:
At 4/9/2016 5:45:23 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 4/9/2016 5:36:22 PM, uncung wrote:
At 4/9/2016 5:28:10 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 4/9/2016 5:14:46 PM, uncung wrote:
At 4/9/2016 3:31:25 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
666 was written in Greek. Arab reading people say 666 is Arabic, but it's not. It was written in Greek. Yet Aarabic readers can read 666 in Greek but in their language. For they are one in the same. The Greek symbols say 666 in Grekk. In Arabic they say "In the name of Allah". Or so is the claim. You decide.

http://youtu.be...

do you mean the Greek Alphabet is the same with Arabic's?

Paets of it. In the Bible God shows the author of Revelation(John) the mark of the beast. John describes it as a riddle, mysterious, somethingto be figured out. He tells us it is both a number and a name. The ex Muslim in the video says in Greek the symbols say 666. In Arabic the same symbols say "In the name of Allah".

But Jesus spoke in Aramaic how could it be the earlier Bible was available in Greek? It indicates the Bible has nothing to do with Jesus. It could be a Hellenist book product since one would not hear the Israel Palestine names such Luke, Tomas, Peter Magdalena, Rebecca and so on. In this case the symbol 666 was an undivine thing but rather a fabricated one by Greek people.

The Bible was definitely divinely inspired.

how do you know it was inspired yet you don't know who wrote it?

We know who wrote it. Moses, Isaiah, Jeremiah, Jose, Malachi, Titus, John, Ezekial, Matthew, Mark, Luke, Peter, etc etc. Nevertheless, it doesn't matter. If the prophecies continue coming true, it speaks for itself. Technically, Muslims actually don't know who wrote the Quran. Muhammed couldn't read or write.
"What Donald Trump is doing is representing the absolute heartbreak, and anger, and frustration at a government gone mad."

http://youtu.be...
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4/10/2016 3:00:38 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 4/9/2016 6:04:03 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 4/9/2016 5:50:49 PM, uncung wrote:
At 4/9/2016 5:45:23 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 4/9/2016 5:36:22 PM, uncung wrote:
At 4/9/2016 5:28:10 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 4/9/2016 5:14:46 PM, uncung wrote:
At 4/9/2016 3:31:25 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
666 was written in Greek. Arab reading people say 666 is Arabic, but it's not. It was written in Greek. Yet Aarabic readers can read 666 in Greek but in their language. For they are one in the same. The Greek symbols say 666 in Grekk. In Arabic they say "In the name of Allah". Or so is the claim. You decide.

http://youtu.be...

do you mean the Greek Alphabet is the same with Arabic's?

Paets of it. In the Bible God shows the author of Revelation(John) the mark of the beast. John describes it as a riddle, mysterious, somethingto be figured out. He tells us it is both a number and a name. The ex Muslim in the video says in Greek the symbols say 666. In Arabic the same symbols say "In the name of Allah".

But Jesus spoke in Aramaic how could it be the earlier Bible was available in Greek? It indicates the Bible has nothing to do with Jesus. It could be a Hellenist book product since one would not hear the Israel Palestine names such Luke, Tomas, Peter Magdalena, Rebecca and so on. In this case the symbol 666 was an undivine thing but rather a fabricated one by Greek people.

The Bible was definitely divinely inspired.

how do you know it was inspired yet you don't know who wrote it?

We know who wrote it. Moses, Isaiah, Jeremiah, Jose, Malachi, Titus, John, Ezekial, Matthew, Mark, Luke, Peter, etc etc. Nevertheless, it doesn't matter. If the prophecies continue coming true, it speaks for itself. Technically, Muslims actually don't know who wrote the Quran. Muhammed couldn't read or write.

Who told you those men were the Bible writers?
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4/10/2016 4:41:35 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 4/9/2016 3:33:52 PM, bulproof wrote:
Nah 777 beat's it.
Nah I'll keep my number 333. You might say it has a nice ring to it.
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4/10/2016 8:01:17 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 4/10/2016 3:00:38 PM, uncung wrote:
At 4/9/2016 6:04:03 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 4/9/2016 5:50:49 PM, uncung wrote:
At 4/9/2016 5:45:23 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 4/9/2016 5:36:22 PM, uncung wrote:
At 4/9/2016 5:28:10 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 4/9/2016 5:14:46 PM, uncung wrote:
At 4/9/2016 3:31:25 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
666 was written in Greek. Arab reading people say 666 is Arabic, but it's not. It was written in Greek. Yet Aarabic readers can read 666 in Greek but in their language. For they are one in the same. The Greek symbols say 666 in Grekk. In Arabic they say "In the name of Allah". Or so is the claim. You decide.

http://youtu.be...

do you mean the Greek Alphabet is the same with Arabic's?

Paets of it. In the Bible God shows the author of Revelation(John) the mark of the beast. John describes it as a riddle, mysterious, somethingto be figured out. He tells us it is both a number and a name. The ex Muslim in the video says in Greek the symbols say 666. In Arabic the same symbols say "In the name of Allah".

But Jesus spoke in Aramaic how could it be the earlier Bible was available in Greek? It indicates the Bible has nothing to do with Jesus. It could be a Hellenist book product since one would not hear the Israel Palestine names such Luke, Tomas, Peter Magdalena, Rebecca and so on. In this case the symbol 666 was an undivine thing but rather a fabricated one by Greek people.

The Bible was definitely divinely inspired.

how do you know it was inspired yet you don't know who wrote it?

We know who wrote it. Moses, Isaiah, Jeremiah, Jose, Malachi, Titus, John, Ezekial, Matthew, Mark, Luke, Peter, etc etc. Nevertheless, it doesn't matter. If the prophecies continue coming true, it speaks for itself. Technically, Muslims actually don't know who wrote the Quran. Muhammed couldn't read or write.

Who told you those men were the Bible writers?

The many fulfilled prophecies of the book. Such as? Ishmael's seed would be slaves to the end of days and not inheriters of the promise.(Slaves of Allah). They will have their hand against each other and against their neighbors. And here we are. Islam is constantly the center of violence against each other and everyone else.
"What Donald Trump is doing is representing the absolute heartbreak, and anger, and frustration at a government gone mad."

http://youtu.be...
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4/10/2016 8:04:13 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 4/10/2016 3:00:38 PM, uncung wrote:
At 4/9/2016 6:04:03 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 4/9/2016 5:50:49 PM, uncung wrote:
At 4/9/2016 5:45:23 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 4/9/2016 5:36:22 PM, uncung wrote:
At 4/9/2016 5:28:10 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 4/9/2016 5:14:46 PM, uncung wrote:
At 4/9/2016 3:31:25 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
666 was written in Greek. Arab reading people say 666 is Arabic, but it's not. It was written in Greek. Yet Aarabic readers can read 666 in Greek but in their language. For they are one in the same. The Greek symbols say 666 in Grekk. In Arabic they say "In the name of Allah". Or so is the claim. You decide.

http://youtu.be...

do you mean the Greek Alphabet is the same with Arabic's?

Paets of it. In the Bible God shows the author of Revelation(John) the mark of the beast. John describes it as a riddle, mysterious, somethingto be figured out. He tells us it is both a number and a name. The ex Muslim in the video says in Greek the symbols say 666. In Arabic the same symbols say "In the name of Allah".

But Jesus spoke in Aramaic how could it be the earlier Bible was available in Greek? It indicates the Bible has nothing to do with Jesus. It could be a Hellenist book product since one would not hear the Israel Palestine names such Luke, Tomas, Peter Magdalena, Rebecca and so on. In this case the symbol 666 was an undivine thing but rather a fabricated one by Greek people.

The Bible was definitely divinely inspired.

how do you know it was inspired yet you don't know who wrote it?

We know who wrote it. Moses, Isaiah, Jeremiah, Jose, Malachi, Titus, John, Ezekial, Matthew, Mark, Luke, Peter, etc etc. Nevertheless, it doesn't matter. If the prophecies continue coming true, it speaks for itself. Technically, Muslims actually don't know who wrote the Quran. Muhammed couldn't read or write.

Who told you those men were the Bible writers?

It's easy to see the divine inspiration of the Bible. Let's check it out.
"What Donald Trump is doing is representing the absolute heartbreak, and anger, and frustration at a government gone mad."

http://youtu.be...
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4/10/2016 8:04:34 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
How did people draw God's wrath in the Old Testament? By bowing to the Babylonian Demon god Baal and kissing his image.

Yet I will preserve 7,000 others in Israel who have never bowed down to Baal or kissed him."
(1 Kings 19:18)

Islam's Kaaba was a Babylonian temple prior to Islam. The black stone is bowed to and kissed.

Kissing the stone.

http://youtu.be...

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Think of the worst event in history in the last 100 years. Yes, Islam is connected to it.

http://youtu.be...

"Had Charles Martel not been victorious at Poitiers -already, you see, the world had already fallen into the hands of the Jews, so gutless a thing Christianity! -then we should in all probability have been converted to Mohammedanism [Islam], that cult which glorifies the heroism and which opens up the seventh Heaven to the bold warrior alone. Then the Germanic races would have conquered the world. Christianity alone prevented them from doing so."
-Adolph Hitler

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In the Bible Abraham had 2 sons. Ishmael's seed are slaves who bring violence on the Earth until the end of days. Isaac's seed brings freedom to the Earth. Isaac begat Israel and Christ, who begat Christianity. Ishmael begat Arabian Islam. Christians turned into free nations. Muslims refer to themselves as Slaves of Allah.

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How does liberty die?

http://youtu.be...

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Oprah He is the One

http://youtu.be...

Obama, "Our Lord and Savior"

http://youtu.be...

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By peace he destroys many

(Daniel 8:25)

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Obama won the Nobel Peace Prize before he'd even done anything.

http://youtu.be...

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Peace right? So he pulled American troops out of Iraq.

http://youtu.be...

And ISIS took over and rampaged the area.

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There are those who think he is purposefully trying to destroy the West.

http://youtu.be...

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The Antichrist 101-

"Then he will stretch out his hand against other countries, and the land of Egypt will not escape."
(Daniel 11:42)

"He will gain control of Egypt, with LIBYA and the Land of CUSH in submission to his power."
(Daniel 11:43)

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The end of Hosni Mubarak as ruler of Egypt.

http://youtu.be...

There was shock over Obama's betrayal of Mubarak.

http://mobile.reuters.com...

The Obama intervention in Libya took down Libyan dictator Muammar al-Qaddafi "in the name of peace."

https://www.foreignaffairs.com...

Qaddafi's last moments alive captured on film below:

http://youtu.be...

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Cush would be? North Africa.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org...(Bible)

Obama came in to take control of the situation in Sudan to enforce "peace".

http://m.huffpost.com...

Obama came with warnings to North African dictators. In the speech he said he looked forward to life after being President.

http://youtu.be...

So, what does he plan on doing after being President? He plans on leading the U.N.

http://www.breitbart.com...

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"He will cause deception to prosper, and he will consider himself superior. When they feel secure, he will destroy many by peace and take his stand against Christ."
(Daniel 8:25)

The Antichrist blasphemes Christ in the Bible.

http://youtu.be...

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Obama is campaigning to run the U.N.

http://youtu.be...

http://m.washingtontimes.com...

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Jesus speaks to Pergamon.
"I know where you dwell, where Satan"s throne is."
Revelation 2:13)

The Pergamon Throne of Satan was in Turkey. It was moved to Berlin. Before giving his speech in Berlin, Obama visited the throne of Satan. And, he used its concept as his stage at the Democratic convention.

http://youtu.be...

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Obama's symbol: The sun setting over the American flag.

http://youtu.be...

The sign of the Islamic Mahdi? The sun setting over the West.

http://www.shiachat.com...

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"He will attack with the help of a foreign god."
(Daniel 11:49)

http://youtu.be...

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There is an art of deception to destroy the enemy in Islam:

http://www.islam-watch.org...

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Even foreigners are certain he is trying to destroy America.

http://youtu.be...

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While Belgium was in chaos from ISIS bombing its airport, Obama was...

http://youtu.be...

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"Islam is the beast"

http://youtu.be...

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"What Donald Trump is doing is representing the absolute heartbreak, and anger, and frustration at a government gone mad."

http://youtu.be...
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4/10/2016 8:05:22 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
Islam seeks the False Prophet of Revelation.

http://youtu.be...

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Islam fulfills the Bible's prophetic guideline in reference to the Antichrist in too many improbable ways to imagine.

Christians were given a guideline concerning the Antichrist who will come in the end of days. Muslims have a guideline for what to look for in the coming Mahdi(Islamic messiah). By a defiance of all probability and odds, they both are described in the same way.

Christians are looking for a man fitting these descriptions who is Satan incarnate who will come to destroy the Christians and the Jews. Muslims are looking for a man who fits these characteristics who will destroy the Christians and the Jews.

1)Both become the universal leader for all.
2). Both will rule the entire world.
3). Both will conquer Israel.
4). Both establish headquarters in Jerusalem.
5). Both will make a seven year peace treaty with Israel.
6). Both will rule for seven years.
7).Both cause only their religion to be the practiced religion.
8). Both distribute wealth to the populace.
9). Both will be a powerful and unprecedented military and political leader.
10). Both will be given supernatural power over nature.
11). Both arrive on the scene after a period of great turmoil.
12). Both will establish a new world order/government.
13). Both will wage war against Jews and Christians.
14)Both are declared "Messiah".

Jesus Himself gave a warning to God's children in the end of days.
"So if someone tells you, 'Look, the Messiah is out in the desert,' don't bother to go or look. Or, 'Look, he is here,' do not believe it!"

The Mahdi, of course, will appear in Mecca, which is in the middle of nowhere and in the desert.

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-The Qur'an mentions that in the end of days "the Beast" will address the unbelievers and admonish them for their lack of attention towards God.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org...

"And when the Word is fulfilled against them, the unjust, we shall produce from the earth a beast to face them: He will speak to them, for that mankind did not believe with assurance in Our Signs."

"R01;Qur'an, sura 27 (An-Naml), ayat 82

The Bible uses the exact term "the beast" in describing the Antichrist.

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Islam-
"The beast will strike the head, and it will brighten the face of the believer with the staff and "He is destined for Paradise" will be written on his forehead."

https://en.m.wikipedia.org...

In the Bible, the beast (Antichrist), marks the foreheads of his followers.

http://www.raptureready.com...

"And I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded because of their testimony about Jesus and because of the word of God. They had not worshiped the beast or its image and had not received its mark on their foreheads."
(Revelation 20:4)

Christians are being killed in mass, targeted, and beheaded by ISIS.

http://www.ijreview.com...

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"Damascus will become a heap of ruins."
(Isaiah 17:1)

After the Syrian conflict, here is Damascus today. A heap of ruins.

http://youtu.be...

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`68; "And Jerusalem was divided into three parts, and the cities of the nations then began to fall."
(Revelation 16:19)

Jerusalem is divided into Jewish, Muslim, and Christian.

http://moira.meccahosting.com...

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What is antichrist?

"It is whoever denies that Jesus is the Christ. Such a person is the ANTICHRIST--denying the Father and the Son."
(1 John 2:22)

The Quran specifically says Jesus is not the Christ, nor the "Son of God".

https://carm.org...

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"The second beast was given power to give breath to the image of the first beast, so that the image could speak and cause all who refused to bow to the IMAGE to be killed."
(Revelation 13:15)

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"The great river Euphrates, and its water was dried up to prepare the way for the army to cross."
(Revelation 16:12)

The water is so dangerously low that ISIS is crossing at will.

http://youtu.be...

https://www.foreignaffairs.com...

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Criteria of the religion of Antichrist.

-Bow to an image.

http://youtu.be...

What are they actually bowing to? The black stone. (Pictures)

http://www.crystalinks.com...

-The image "speaks".

"Thus Allah wrote this confirmation. And this stone opened its mouth upon the order of Allah, who put that confirmation in it."

https://en.m.wikipedia.org...

-Nonworship = death.

http://youtu.be...

Has an infallable prophet who denounces Christ.

http://youtu.be...

Muhammed, the infallable great Prophet denounced Christ in the Quran.

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Islamic tradition holds that the Black Stone fell from Heaven.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org...

(Satan fell from Heaven)(Luke 10:18)

666? Greek to Arabic.

http://youtu.be...
"What Donald Trump is doing is representing the absolute heartbreak, and anger, and frustration at a government gone mad."

http://youtu.be...
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4/10/2016 8:50:47 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 4/9/2016 3:31:25 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
666 was written in Greek. Arab reading people say 666 is Arabic, but it's not. It was written in Greek. Yet Aarabic readers can read 666 in Greek but in their language. For they are one in the same. The Greek symbols say 666 in Grekk. In Arabic they say "In the name of Allah". Or so is the claim. You decide.

http://youtu.be...

666 is Arabic numerals, as used by teh vast majority of languages on this planet, just as the majority use Romance (as in from the Roman) Characters in their languages.

But do you now what 666 represents in scripture?

I'll give you a clue, 6 is the number of human imperfection, sin.
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4/10/2016 9:00:28 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 4/9/2016 5:28:10 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 4/9/2016 5:14:46 PM, uncung wrote:
At 4/9/2016 3:31:25 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
666 was written in Greek. Arab reading people say 666 is Arabic, but it's not. It was written in Greek. Yet Aarabic readers can read 666 in Greek but in their language. For they are one in the same. The Greek symbols say 666 in Grekk. In Arabic they say "In the name of Allah". Or so is the claim. You decide.

http://youtu.be...

do you mean the Greek Alphabet is the same with Arabic's?

Paets of it. In the Bible God shows the author of Revelation(John) the mark of the beast. John describes it as a riddle, mysterious, somethingto be figured out. He tells us it is both a number and a name. The ex Muslim in the video says in Greek the symbols say 666. In Arabic the same symbols say "In the name of Allah".

it makes sense as allah wants christians killed.
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4/10/2016 9:55:42 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 4/10/2016 8:50:47 PM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
At 4/9/2016 3:31:25 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
666 was written in Greek. Arab reading people say 666 is Arabic, but it's not. It was written in Greek. Yet Aarabic readers can read 666 in Greek but in their language. For they are one in the same. The Greek symbols say 666 in Grekk. In Arabic they say "In the name of Allah". Or so is the claim. You decide.

http://youtu.be...

666 is Arabic numerals, as used by teh vast majority of languages on this planet, just as the majority use Romance (as in from the Roman) Characters in their languages.

But do you now what 666 represents in scripture?

I'll give you a clue, 6 is the number of human imperfection, sin.

Watchtower nonsense based on the opinions of unworthy men.
"What Donald Trump is doing is representing the absolute heartbreak, and anger, and frustration at a government gone mad."

http://youtu.be...
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4/10/2016 10:22:15 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 4/10/2016 9:55:42 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 4/10/2016 8:50:47 PM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
At 4/9/2016 3:31:25 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
666 was written in Greek. Arab reading people say 666 is Arabic, but it's not. It was written in Greek. Yet Aarabic readers can read 666 in Greek but in their language. For they are one in the same. The Greek symbols say 666 in Grekk. In Arabic they say "In the name of Allah". Or so is the claim. You decide.

http://youtu.be...

666 is Arabic numerals, as used by teh vast majority of languages on this planet, just as the majority use Romance (as in from the Roman) Characters in their languages.

But do you now what 666 represents in scripture?

I'll give you a clue, 6 is the number of human imperfection, sin.

Watchtower nonsense based on the opinions of unworthy men.

Nope, fact based on scripture.
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4/10/2016 10:36:09 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 4/10/2016 10:22:15 PM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
At 4/10/2016 9:55:42 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 4/10/2016 8:50:47 PM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
At 4/9/2016 3:31:25 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
666 was written in Greek. Arab reading people say 666 is Arabic, but it's not. It was written in Greek. Yet Aarabic readers can read 666 in Greek but in their language. For they are one in the same. The Greek symbols say 666 in Grekk. In Arabic they say "In the name of Allah". Or so is the claim. You decide.

http://youtu.be...

666 is Arabic numerals, as used by teh vast majority of languages on this planet, just as the majority use Romance (as in from the Roman) Characters in their languages.

But do you now what 666 represents in scripture?

I'll give you a clue, 6 is the number of human imperfection, sin.

Watchtower nonsense based on the opinions of unworthy men.

Nope, fact based on scripture.

The JW version of "scripture" is not scripture. Come on now MCB. You can't possibly believe anything the watchtower says. They keep changing the rules to fit with reality. That is a clue. What was God doing for 2,000 years while JW's didn't even exist? It doesn't even make sense or pass a basic scientific method. It's a cult. It redefined Christ, made its own version of the Bible that is incompatable with the thousands of compatable interpretations of Christian, Jewish, and Secular interpreters. The JW's created an entirely new religion that blasphemes the Biblical Jesus. It is a salvation breaker. It was built by Satan himself.
"What Donald Trump is doing is representing the absolute heartbreak, and anger, and frustration at a government gone mad."

http://youtu.be...
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4/10/2016 10:48:32 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 4/10/2016 10:36:09 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 4/10/2016 10:22:15 PM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
At 4/10/2016 9:55:42 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 4/10/2016 8:50:47 PM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
At 4/9/2016 3:31:25 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
666 was written in Greek. Arab reading people say 666 is Arabic, but it's not. It was written in Greek. Yet Aarabic readers can read 666 in Greek but in their language. For they are one in the same. The Greek symbols say 666 in Grekk. In Arabic they say "In the name of Allah". Or so is the claim. You decide.

http://youtu.be...

666 is Arabic numerals, as used by teh vast majority of languages on this planet, just as the majority use Romance (as in from the Roman) Characters in their languages.

But do you now what 666 represents in scripture?

I'll give you a clue, 6 is the number of human imperfection, sin.

Watchtower nonsense based on the opinions of unworthy men.

Nope, fact based on scripture.

The JW version of "scripture" is not scripture. Come on now MCB. You can't possibly believe anything the watchtower says. They keep changing the rules to fit with reality. That is a clue. What was God doing for 2,000 years while JW's didn't even exist? It doesn't even make sense or pass a basic scientific method. It's a cult. It redefined Christ, made its own version of the Bible that is incompatable with the thousands of compatable interpretations of Christian, Jewish, and Secular interpreters. The JW's created an entirely new religion that blasphemes the Biblical Jesus. It is a salvation breaker. It was built by Satan himself.

There is no JW version of scripture. Scripture is scripture and they can prove everything they teach from any translation of scripture that exists, no matter how dishonestly translated.

Most translations are so dishonestly translated that the deliberately omit Jehovah's name from as many places where it should be as they were allowed to and substituted LORD for it, as is extremely easy to prove.

How can you trust a translation that dishonestly translated?

What else have such dishonest translators changed to prove their false teachings?

They all ignored Jehovah's power to stop them spoiling his word, and thus failed in doing so.

One other thing I do know for a fact is that you cannot prove them wrong. Many have tried, none have succeeded.

Go on, I dare you, try, and I will show you from the Bible just how wrong you are. I've done it before, to you as well, so you know I can.
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4/10/2016 11:58:34 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 4/10/2016 10:48:32 PM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
At 4/10/2016 10:36:09 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 4/10/2016 10:22:15 PM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
At 4/10/2016 9:55:42 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 4/10/2016 8:50:47 PM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
At 4/9/2016 3:31:25 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
666 was written in Greek. Arab reading people say 666 is Arabic, but it's not. It was written in Greek. Yet Aarabic readers can read 666 in Greek but in their language. For they are one in the same. The Greek symbols say 666 in Grekk. In Arabic they say "In the name of Allah". Or so is the claim. You decide.

http://youtu.be...

666 is Arabic numerals, as used by teh vast majority of languages on this planet, just as the majority use Romance (as in from the Roman) Characters in their languages.

But do you now what 666 represents in scripture?

I'll give you a clue, 6 is the number of human imperfection, sin.

Watchtower nonsense based on the opinions of unworthy men.

Nope, fact based on scripture.

The JW version of "scripture" is not scripture. Come on now MCB. You can't possibly believe anything the watchtower says. They keep changing the rules to fit with reality. That is a clue. What was God doing for 2,000 years while JW's didn't even exist? It doesn't even make sense or pass a basic scientific method. It's a cult. It redefined Christ, made its own version of the Bible that is incompatable with the thousands of compatable interpretations of Christian, Jewish, and Secular interpreters. The JW's created an entirely new religion that blasphemes the Biblical Jesus. It is a salvation breaker. It was built by Satan himself.

There is no JW version of scripture. Scripture is scripture and they can prove everything they teach from any translation of scripture that exists, no matter how dishonestly translated.

Most translations are so dishonestly translated that the deliberately omit Jehovah's name from as many places where it should be as they were allowed to and substituted LORD for it, as is extremely easy to prove.

How can you trust a translation that dishonestly translated?

What else have such dishonest translators changed to prove their false teachings?

They all ignored Jehovah's power to stop them spoiling his word, and thus failed in doing so.

One other thing I do know for a fact is that you cannot prove them wrong. Many have tried, none have succeeded.

Go on, I dare you, try, and I will show you from the Bible just how wrong you are. I've done it before, to you as well, so you know I can.

Come on now MCB. And why do you guys need an organization to interpret the Bible for you? It's a sex cult to lure in young girls, so that they can be controlled and forced religiously to have sex with male JW's. Correct?
"What Donald Trump is doing is representing the absolute heartbreak, and anger, and frustration at a government gone mad."

http://youtu.be...
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4/11/2016 12:03:47 AM
Posted: 8 months ago
And the English versions of the Bible were hundreds of years old before JW's existed. They ALL said Jesus was God. The original followers of God thought Christ was God. The Catholic church for thousands of years saw Christ as God. JW's created a completely different and new religion. Give up the goodies MCB.
"What Donald Trump is doing is representing the absolute heartbreak, and anger, and frustration at a government gone mad."

http://youtu.be...
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4/11/2016 7:08:55 AM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 4/10/2016 10:48:32 PM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
At 4/10/2016 10:36:09 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 4/10/2016 10:22:15 PM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
At 4/10/2016 9:55:42 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 4/10/2016 8:50:47 PM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
At 4/9/2016 3:31:25 PM, brontoraptor wrote:

One other thing I do know for a fact is that you cannot prove them wrong. Many have tried, none have succeeded.

The calendar has done it many times with no effort at all. Was it 1914? No, it'll be 1915. Oops, 1918. Let's recalculate: 1925. Nope, 1926. How about anytime during the 1930's. Nope, the 1940's. "Can't be very long now". No, it'll be within the lifetime of those alive and cognizant of the 1914 events. Oops, no they just had to be alive. Oops, no, they just had to have known someone who was alive!

Remember: WatchTowerites are never wrong until the WatchTower tells them, "You were wrong."
Madcornishbiker: "No, I don't need a dictionary, I know how scripture uses words and that is all I need to now."
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4/11/2016 11:10:53 AM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 4/11/2016 7:08:55 AM, annanicole wrote:
At 4/10/2016 10:48:32 PM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
At 4/10/2016 10:36:09 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 4/10/2016 10:22:15 PM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
At 4/10/2016 9:55:42 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 4/10/2016 8:50:47 PM, MadCornishBiker wrote:
At 4/9/2016 3:31:25 PM, brontoraptor wrote:

One other thing I do know for a fact is that you cannot prove them wrong. Many have tried, none have succeeded.

The calendar has done it many times with no effort at all. Was it 1914? No, it'll be 1915. Oops, 1918. Let's recalculate: 1925. Nope, 1926. How about anytime during the 1930's. Nope, the 1940's. "Can't be very long now". No, it'll be within the lifetime of those alive and cognizant of the 1914 events. Oops, no they just had to be alive. Oops, no, they just had to have known someone who was alive!

No-one is arguing with that, but the whole point is that unlike you they have learned from their errors, and continue learning.

So Jehovah used the calendar to teach them. So what?

He has many methods of teaching us, the worst of which is allowing ourselves to make fools of ourselves and seeing if we are humble enough to recover from it.

They learned that's all that matters.

Maybe you should get off your high horse and learn from your far more gross errors.


Remember: WatchTowerites are never wrong until the WatchTower tells them, "You were wrong."

That's unity for you, just as it was in the 1st century. If in doubt, trust Jehovah to correct the problem. Don't be unnecessarily disruptive. Precisely as Paul states at 1 Corinthians 1:10 "Now I urge you, brothers, through the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that you should all speak in agreement and that there should be no divisions among you, but that you may be completely united in the same mind and in the same line of thought."

There is only one way to comply with that. Trust in Jehovah to reveal any errors and correct them, whether he uses the calendar to do so, or any other method. One of his harshest lessons is to allow us to make fools of ourselves and expect us to pick ourselves up from that. The bigger the mistake, the harsher the correction
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4/11/2016 11:40:00 AM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 4/11/2016 12:03:47 AM, brontoraptor wrote:
And the English versions of the Bible were hundreds of years old before JW's existed. They ALL said Jesus was God. The original followers of God thought Christ was God. The Catholic church for thousands of years saw Christ as God. JW's created a completely different and new religion. Give up the goodies MCB.

The original followers of Christ took his word for the fact that he too has a God (John 20:17).

One problem you are up against is that you cannot produce one translation which was not produced well after the foretold Apostasy set in, which it did as prophesied, when the last of the Apostles died.

Actually they don't say that Christ was God except in a very few verses which have obviously been altered to fit. I can prove that Jesus is not and never was God from any translation you care to choose. As can, and happily will, any JW.

Al you have is one suspect verse which not everyone agrees with the translation of, a few added phrases and the substitution of LORD for God's name.

I have the whole of scripture, in any translation, to prove you wrong.

Have you never asked yourself why the trinity teaching didn't enter the church until the end of the 4th century?

No, of course you haven't, because you want it to be true and that is all that matters to you. You don;t dare test it out thoroughly because you know the JWs (and other non-trinitarian faiths) are right as far as that goes.

So?

All that shows is how badly corrupted they were.

Like I said before can you really trust a translation which is so dishonest as to deliberately omit the most important name in the universe.

But hey, if you want to fall for it that's your problem.

The first test of any faith I looked at, including eventually the JWs the JWs I made was "did the believe the lie which is the trinity".

The fact that the Trinity is false was obvious to me from childhood, because it simply doesn't fit with the Apostles attitude to the relationship between Christ and his father.

Most importantly they taught that salvation comes from the father (Jehovah) through or by means of, the son. It does not come from the son.

Plus John points out that even after his resurrection to his original state Christ claimed he worshipped the same God that his followers do.

I could go on. There are so many holes in your teaching that cannot be plugged from scripture.

As for John 1:1:

1808 "and the Word was a god" - Thomas Belsham The New Testament, in An Improved Version, Upon the Basis of Archbishop Newcome"s New Translation: With a Corrected Text , London.

1822 "and the Word was a god." - The New Testament in Greek and English (A. Kneeland, 1822.);

1829 "and the Word was a god." - The Monotessaron; or, The Gospel History According to the Four Evangelists (J. S. Thompson, 1829);

1829 "and the Word was a god." - The Monotessaron; or, The Gospel History According to the Four Evangelists (J. S. Thompson, 1829);

1863 "and the Word was a god." - A Literal Translation Of The New Testament (Herman Heinfetter [Pseudonym of Frederick Parker], 1863);

1864 "the LOGOS was God, This was in the Beginning with God" A New Emphatic Version (right hand column) - But not the left hand column, note below.

1864 "and a god was the Word" (left hand column interlinear reading) The Emphatic Diaglott by Benjamin Wilson, New York and London. - Same transaltor with an altered translation, I wonder why the change?

1867 "In the beginning was the gospel preached through the Son. And the gospel was the word, and the word was with the Son, and the Son was with God, and the Son was of God" - The Joseph Smith Translation of the Bible. - but not God

1879 "and the Word was a god." - Das Evangelium nach Johannes (J. Becker, 1979);

1885 "and the Word was a god." - Concise Commentary On The Holy Bible (R. Young, 1885);

1911 "and the Word was a god." - The Coptic Version of the N.T. (G. W. Horner, 1911);

1935 "and the Word was divine" - The Bible"An American Translation, by John M. P. Smith and Edgar J. Goodspeed, Chicago. - But again, not God

1955 "so the Word was divine" - The Authentic New Testament, by Hugh J. Schonfield, Aberdeen. - But again, not God

1956 The Wuest Expanded Translation reads: "In the beginning the Word was existing. And the Word was in fellowship with God the Father. And the Word was as to His essence absolute deity"[8] - Again, the same essence, a spirit, but not God himself.

1958 "and the Word was a god." - The New Testament of Our Lord and Saviour Jesus Anointed" (J. L. Tomanec, 1958);

1962, 1979 "'the word was God.' Or, more literally, 'God was the word.'" The Four Gospels and the Revelation (R. Lattimore, 1979)

1966, 2001 The Good News Bible reads: "...and he was the same as God." - Yup he is, but that does not say he is God.

1970, 1989 The Revised English Bible reads: "...and what God was, the Word was." - Very true, both are spirits, just as the Angels are also.

1975 "and a god (or, of a divine kind) was the Word" Das Evangelium nach Johnnes, by Siegfried Schulz, G"ttingen, Germany

1975 "and the Word was a god." - Das Evangelium nach Johannes (S. Schulz, 1975);

1978 "and godlike sort was the Logos" - Das Evangelium nach Johannes, by Johannes Schneider, Berlin.

Every single one of the above says that in essence the one who came to earth to become incarnate is "a god" they simply say it in different ways.

Being "a god", simply means that like God, and all the angels he helped create and who are also called gods in scripture, God's son is a spirit being.

John 1:14 makes it clear that God's son, also known as the Word, was also God's only begotten son, which makes him the only solo creation of God.

The Angels are all called sons of God, but only the Word, AKA Michael, is called the only begotten son of God.

The fact that he has had a numerous names, some of which are really just titles, like the Word, the Messiah, or the Christ, and whilst incarnate in Jesus flesh he became know as Jesus also, is not unusual in scripture.

As Abram's role in Jehovah's plan changed, Jehovah changed his name to Abraham, jut as Jehovah changed Sarai's name to Sarah, and Jacob to Israel. Names in Jehovah's word have significance and are changed accordingly.

However Jehovah's name has never changed. He chose it as his "memorial to time indefinite" and since it describes him perfectly (I shall prove to be) it will never need changing.

It's about time you stopped arguing with scripture, and thus with Jehovah himself.

It's also about time you checked out the NWT and saw just how little it varies from any other, since Jehovah did not allow his word to be corrupted to any great degree.

Further more it is about time you stopped relying on translations that can easily be proved to have been deliberately altered.