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4/10/2016 10:18:20 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
Because Muhammed commanded them to be. They have no freedom of thought per Muhammed.

33:36

"It is not for a believing man or a believing woman, when Allah and His Messenger have decided a matter, that they should [thereafter] have any choice about their affair. And whoever disobeys Allah and His Messenger has certainly strayed into clear error."
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4/11/2016 12:03:55 AM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 4/10/2016 10:18:20 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
Because Muhammed commanded them to be. They have no freedom of thought per Muhammed.

33:36

"It is not for a believing man or a believing woman, when Allah and His Messenger have decided a matter, that they should [thereafter] have any choice about their affair. And whoever disobeys Allah and His Messenger has certainly strayed into clear error."

Most people are ignorant towards religion. I asked a coworkers boyfriend the other day what he believes. He said he is Christian. I asked him more, he didn't know anything. Never read it, so on.

Now... Muslims are a tad bit more extreme in this regard. They are a more prideful people. Even though they haven't read it, they will defend like they have. It is a stereotype i guess that is a little true. But with respect and ease in conversation, one will realize they aren't that different either.

I don't like anyone talking out of ignorance about an important subject, but people do. It is all about how you tread the waters. You will be surprised how many people i have made spiritual vs. religious. Bc they are willing to listen and love.
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4/11/2016 12:15:27 AM
Posted: 8 months ago
If Muslims are so ignorant, how is it that a Muslim formulated into words the concept of biological evolution 500 years before Darwin?

How do you explain all the beautiful art and science that has come out of the Muslim world?

Who are you to judge who is a Muslim or not? A Muslim is one who "submits to God". Who are you to say whether or not someone is in submission to God? Do you believe that someone is in submission to God because they told you that they were?
And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up: That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life. As many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name: which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of the will of God. The hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth,
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4/11/2016 12:27:12 AM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 4/10/2016 10:18:20 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
Because Muhammed commanded them to be. They have no freedom of thought per Muhammed.

33:36

"It is not for a believing man or a believing woman, when Allah and His Messenger have decided a matter, that they should [thereafter] have any choice about their affair. And whoever disobeys Allah and His Messenger has certainly strayed into clear error."

yes muslims have no freedom in committing sins.
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4/11/2016 3:28:14 AM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 4/11/2016 12:15:27 AM, SpiritandTruth wrote:
If Muslims are so ignorant, how is it that a Muslim formulated into words the concept of biological evolution 500 years before Darwin?

How do you explain all the beautiful art and science that has come out of the Muslim world?

Who are you to judge who is a Muslim or not? A Muslim is one who "submits to God". Who are you to say whether or not someone is in submission to God? Do you believe that someone is in submission to God because they told you that they were?

I never said nor do I care who is a Muslim or not. Islam fits the religion of Satan talked about in Revelation. Read Revelation.

Satan in revelation is worshipped as god. Check.

His followers bow to an image that they think speaks. Check.

His followers behead unbelievers.

His followers have a great prophet that specifically says Jesus is not the Christ. Check.

His followers look for another "messiah" that destroys the Christians and Jews. Check.

Come on now.
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4/11/2016 3:38:46 AM
Posted: 8 months ago
It seems pretty clear to me from the Qur'an that it is speaking of the very same God that was revealed in Jewish and Christian scripture.

I don't think that the behavior of people who identify with the label "Muslim" should be confused with what the word actually means.
And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up: That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life. As many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name: which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of the will of God. The hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth,
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4/11/2016 3:44:20 AM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 4/11/2016 3:38:46 AM, SpiritandTruth wrote:
It seems pretty clear to me from the Qur'an that it is speaking of the very same God that was revealed in Jewish and Christian scripture.

I don't think that the behavior of people who identify with the label "Muslim" should be confused with what the word actually means.

Everything about Islam is in defiance to the Biblical god.

In Genesis Ishmael's descendents are not of God in any way shape or form. Muslims are Ishmael's descendants.

In Revelation Islam comes against god in the name of a false prophet who denounces Christ's divinity. It tells us they will bow to an image. Check. Which they believe speaks. Check. And Satan's children as they are referred to behead people. Check. Mate.
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4/11/2016 3:47:10 AM
Posted: 8 months ago
Islam seeks the False Prophet of Revelation.

http://youtu.be...

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Islam fulfills the Bible's prophetic guideline in reference to the Antichrist in too many improbable ways to imagine.

Christians were given a guideline concerning the Antichrist who will come in the end of days. Muslims have a guideline for what to look for in the coming Mahdi(Islamic messiah). By a defiance of all probability and odds, they both are described in the same way.

Christians are looking for a man fitting these descriptions who is Satan incarnate who will come to destroy the Christians and the Jews. Muslims are looking for a man who fits these characteristics who will destroy the Christians and the Jews.

1)Both become the universal leader for all.
2). Both will rule the entire world.
3). Both will conquer Israel.
4). Both establish headquarters in Jerusalem.
5). Both will make a seven year peace treaty with Israel.
6). Both will rule for seven years.
7).Both cause only their religion to be the practiced religion.
8). Both distribute wealth to the populace.
9). Both will be a powerful and unprecedented military and political leader.
10). Both will be given supernatural power over nature.
11). Both arrive on the scene after a period of great turmoil.
12). Both will establish a new world order/government.
13). Both will wage war against Jews and Christians.
14)Both are declared "Messiah".

Jesus Himself gave a warning to God's children in the end of days.
"So if someone tells you, 'Look, the Messiah is out in the desert,' don't bother to go or look. Or, 'Look, he is here,' do not believe it!"

The Mahdi, of course, will appear in Mecca, which is in the middle of nowhere and in the desert.

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-The Qur'an mentions that in the end of days "the Beast" will address the unbelievers and admonish them for their lack of attention towards God.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org...

"And when the Word is fulfilled against them, the unjust, we shall produce from the earth a beast to face them: He will speak to them, for that mankind did not believe with assurance in Our Signs."

"R01;Qur'an, sura 27 (An-Naml), ayat 82

The Bible uses the exact term "the beast" in describing the Antichrist.

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Islam-
"The beast will strike the head, and it will brighten the face of the believer with the staff and "He is destined for Paradise" will be written on his forehead."

https://en.m.wikipedia.org...

In the Bible, the beast (Antichrist), marks the foreheads of his followers.

http://www.raptureready.com...

"And I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded because of their testimony about Jesus and because of the word of God. They had not worshiped the beast or its image and had not received its mark on their foreheads."
(Revelation 20:4)

Christians are being killed in mass, targeted, and beheaded by ISIS.

http://www.ijreview.com...

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"Damascus will become a heap of ruins."
(Isaiah 17:1)

After the Syrian conflict, here is Damascus today. A heap of ruins.

http://youtu.be...

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`68; "And Jerusalem was divided into three parts, and the cities of the nations then began to fall."
(Revelation 16:19)

Jerusalem is divided into Jewish, Muslim, and Christian.

http://moira.meccahosting.com...

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What is antichrist?

"It is whoever denies that Jesus is the Christ. Such a person is the ANTICHRIST--denying the Father and the Son."
(1 John 2:22)

The Quran specifically says Jesus is not the Christ, nor the "Son of God".

https://carm.org...

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"The second beast was given power to give breath to the image of the first beast, so that the image could speak and cause all who refused to bow to the IMAGE to be killed."
(Revelation 13:15)

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"The great river Euphrates, and its water was dried up to prepare the way for the army to cross."
(Revelation 16:12)

The water is so dangerously low that ISIS is crossing at will.

http://youtu.be...

https://www.foreignaffairs.com...

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Criteria of the religion of Antichrist.

-Bow to an image.

http://youtu.be...

What are they actually bowing to? The black stone. (Pictures)

http://www.crystalinks.com...

-The image "speaks".

"Thus Allah wrote this confirmation. And this stone opened its mouth upon the order of Allah, who put that confirmation in it."

https://en.m.wikipedia.org...

-Nonworship = death.

http://youtu.be...

Has an infallable prophet who denounces Christ.

http://youtu.be...

Muhammed, the infallable great Prophet denounced Christ in the Quran.

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Islamic tradition holds that the Black Stone fell from Heaven.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org...

(Satan fell from Heaven)(Luke 10:18)

666? Greek to Arabic.

http://youtu.be...
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4/11/2016 3:51:51 AM
Posted: 8 months ago
These sound like very worldly arguments.

That said, my understanding of what it means to be a muslim is incompatible with killing Christians, Jews, or worshiping idols and created things.
And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up: That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life. As many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name: which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of the will of God. The hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth,
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4/11/2016 4:01:42 AM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 4/11/2016 3:51:51 AM, SpiritandTruth wrote:
These sound like very worldly arguments.

That said, my understanding of what it means to be a muslim is incompatible with killing Christians, Jews, or worshiping idols and created things.

Read the quran. There are hundreds of verses on jihad and killing nonmuslims. What ISIS is doing right now...they got it straight from the Quran. Alkah told them to behead people. Allah told them to be merciless. Allah told them to slash throats. They are just doing what Muhammed told them to do. It's a book of conquering the world for Islam, deception and espionage, and a book of death. Google it.
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4/11/2016 4:02:54 AM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 4/11/2016 3:51:51 AM, SpiritandTruth wrote:
These sound like very worldly arguments.

That said, my understanding of what it means to be a muslim is incompatible with killing Christians, Jews, or worshiping idols and created things.

They bow to the kaaba, specifically the black stone of the kaaba. Google it.
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4/11/2016 4:04:27 AM
Posted: 8 months ago
Here it is if you want to see it for yourself.

Bow to an image.

http://youtu.be...

What are they actually bowing to? The black stone. (Pictures)

http://www.crystalinks.com...
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4/11/2016 4:04:53 AM
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Muslims do not worship rocks.
And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up: That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life. As many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name: which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of the will of God. The hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth,
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4/11/2016 4:10:15 AM
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How did people draw God's wrath in the Old Testament? By bowing to the Babylonian Demon god Baal and kissing his image.

Yet I will preserve 7,000 others in Israel who have never bowed down to Baal or kissed him."
(1 Kings 19:18)

Islam's Kaaba was a Babylonian temple prior to Islam. The black stone is bowed to and kissed.

Kissing the stone.

http://youtu.be...
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4/11/2016 4:11:39 AM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 4/11/2016 4:04:53 AM, SpiritandTruth wrote:
Muslims do not worship rocks.

Are you actually looking at what I have presented?
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4/11/2016 4:13:51 AM
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At 4/11/2016 4:04:53 AM, SpiritandTruth wrote:
Muslims do not worship rocks.

I'll post it again.
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4/11/2016 4:14:12 AM
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Bow to an image.

http://youtu.be...

What are they actually bowing to? The black stone. (Pictures)

http://www.crystalinks.com...

-The image "speaks".

"Thus Allah wrote this confirmation. And this stone opened its mouth upon the order of Allah, who put that confirmation in it."

https://en.m.wikipedia.org...

-Nonworship = death.

http://youtu.be...
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4/11/2016 4:16:13 AM
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I'm familiar with the Kaaba. Muslims don't worship rocks. Muslims worship God.

I don't consider your proof to be valid. I think it comes from a fundamental misunderstanding of what a Muslim is.
And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up: That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life. As many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name: which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of the will of God. The hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth,
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4/11/2016 4:16:28 AM
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Wikipedia-

"The Black Stone of Mecca, or Kaaba Stone, is a Muslim relic, which according to Islamic tradition dates back to the time of Adam and Eve. It is the eastern cornerstone of the Kaaba, the ancient sacred stone building towards which Muslims pray, in the center of the Grand Mosque in Mecca, Saudi Arabia. The Stone is a dark rock, polished smooth by the hands of millions of pilgrims, that has been broken into a number of fragments cemented into a silver frame in the side of the Kaaba. Although it has often been described as a meteorite, this hypothesis is still under consideration.It is the eastern cornerstone of the Kaaba, the ancient sacred stone building towards which Muslims pray, in the center of the Grand Mosque in Mecca, Saudi Arabia.

The Stone is roughly 30 cm (12 in.) in diameter, and 1.5 meters (5 ft.) above the ground. When pilgrims circle the Kaaba as part of the Tawaf ritual of the Hajj, many of them try, if possible, to stop and kiss the Black Stone, emulating the kiss that it received from the Islamic prophet Muhammad. If they cannot reach it, they are to point to it on each of their seven circuits around the Kaaba. The Stone is broken into a number of pieces from damage which was inflicted during the Middle Ages. The pieces are held together by a silver frame, which is fastened by silver nails to the Stone."
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4/11/2016 4:17:39 AM
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At 4/11/2016 4:16:13 AM, SpiritandTruth wrote:
I'm familiar with the Kaaba. Muslims don't worship rocks. Muslims worship God.

I don't consider your proof to be valid. I think it comes from a fundamental misunderstanding of what a Muslim is.

I was raise in Islam. I know exactly what it's all about. Conquering the world.
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4/11/2016 4:18:29 AM
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I don't think performing a religious ritual is the same thing as worshiping a rock.

Thank goodness for grace, Lord knows how we are made.
And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up: That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life. As many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name: which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of the will of God. The hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth,
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4/11/2016 4:19:36 AM
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At 4/11/2016 4:16:13 AM, SpiritandTruth wrote:
I'm familiar with the Kaaba. Muslims don't worship rocks. Muslims worship God.

I don't consider your proof to be valid. I think it comes from a fundamental misunderstanding of what a Muslim is.

That's why I am its biggest critic. Apostasy comes at a huge price. You do not worship the same God. The Quran says word for word. "Jesus is not the Son of God". The Bible says any such act is...antichrist.
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4/11/2016 4:19:55 AM
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At 4/10/2016 10:18:20 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
Because Muhammed commanded them to be. They have no freedom of thought per Muhammed.

33:36

"It is not for a believing man or a believing woman, when Allah and His Messenger have decided a matter, that they should [thereafter] have any choice about their affair. And whoever disobeys Allah and His Messenger has certainly strayed into clear error."

You can ignore this.

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I made a thread called:
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I put the text in quotes just in case a moderator wouldn't be cool with adverstising for other webistes which is obviously not.

So i put that so this wouldn't happen and it was removed anyways ALTHOUGH I SAID IT WAS FOR STUFF ON THIS SITE!

Seriously?

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4/11/2016 4:22:54 AM
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At 4/11/2016 4:18:29 AM, SpiritandTruth wrote:
I don't think performing a religious ritual is the same thing as worshiping a rock.

Thank goodness for grace, Lord knows how we are made.

If Islam is worshipping god then the Bible is 100% dead wrong. In Genesis it says Ishmael's seed have no promise or aknowledgement by God. Muslems are Ishmael's seed. The Bible says to say "Jesus is not the Son of God" is antichrist. So if Muslems worship God, the Bible is wrong.
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4/11/2016 4:24:37 AM
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At 4/11/2016 4:18:29 AM, SpiritandTruth wrote:
I don't think performing a religious ritual is the same thing as worshiping a rock.

Thank goodness for grace, Lord knows how we are made.

Muslims do not believe in grace. Their salvation comes from that rock.
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4/11/2016 4:25:41 AM
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The Kingdom of God is at hand. Do you accept God's will as being done? It's finished. God is the king. There isn't supposed to be a successor to Muhammad, God was always the one in charge, not Muhammad. Muhammad is a man. There is no caliph. God is the king. God was always the king.

Muslims are not to worship man, man made institution, or creation. Muslims are to worship God, and God alone. This is the unity of the prophets.
And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up: That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life. As many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name: which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of the will of God. The hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth,
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4/11/2016 4:29:08 AM
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At 4/11/2016 4:25:41 AM, SpiritandTruth wrote:
The Kingdom of God is at hand. Do you accept God's will as being done? It's finished. God is the king. There isn't supposed to be a successor to Muhammad, God was always the one in charge, not Muhammad. Muhammad is a man. There is no caliph. God is the king. God was always the king.

Muslims are not to worship man, man made institution, or creation. Muslims are to worship God, and God alone. This is the unity of the prophets.

I'll get specific. Islam worships Satan. Allah IS Satan.
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4/11/2016 4:30:10 AM
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At 4/11/2016 4:25:41 AM, SpiritandTruth wrote:
The Kingdom of God is at hand. Do you accept God's will as being done? It's finished. God is the king. There isn't supposed to be a successor to Muhammad, God was always the one in charge, not Muhammad. Muhammad is a man. There is no caliph. God is the king. God was always the king.

Muslims are not to worship man, man made institution, or creation. Muslims are to worship God, and God alone. This is the unity of the prophets.

Who is the Mahdi?
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4/11/2016 4:34:14 AM
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The Qu'ran very clearly describes the same God spoken of in previously revealed scripture. I'm not buying this "Allah is Satan" business.
And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up: That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life. As many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name: which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of the will of God. The hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth,