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Deb-8-A-Bull
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4/16/2016 5:24:57 PM
Posted: 7 months ago
What a truly great way of finding God.
I mean I had every Avenue open , living in a place where no one religion ruled.

Try to imagine if you can , being born in India , with Hindu parents,
It's laughable, you would never have a chance of finding God. NEVER.
Or being born in the middle east. The list goes on.

As a "Atheist" if I was born in India with Hindu parents, I would be a Hindu.
LOL how stupid is that.

Just admit it , you all found nothing. NOTHING.
janesix
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4/16/2016 5:46:24 PM
Posted: 7 months ago
At 4/16/2016 5:24:57 PM, Deb-8-A-Bull wrote:
What a truly great way of finding God.
I mean I had every Avenue open , living in a place where no one religion ruled.

Try to imagine if you can , being born in India , with Hindu parents,
It's laughable, you would never have a chance of finding God. NEVER.
Or being born in the middle east. The list goes on.

As a "Atheist" if I was born in India with Hindu parents, I would be a Hindu.
LOL how stupid is that.

Just admit it , you all found nothing. NOTHING.

I'm glad i was raised in an atheist home, in the pacific northwest where it's ok to be an atheist. For my first 37 years i was an atheist.
I found god when i was 37, and atheism let me learn about god without the burden of a religion to confuse me.
Everyone should be raised an atheist.
Deb-8-A-Bull
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4/16/2016 5:52:25 PM
Posted: 7 months ago
At 4/16/2016 5:46:24 PM, janesix wrote:
At 4/16/2016 5:24:57 PM, Deb-8-A-Bull wrote:
What a truly great way of finding God.
I mean I had every Avenue open , living in a place where no one religion ruled.

Try to imagine if you can , being born in India , with Hindu parents,
It's laughable, you would never have a chance of finding God. NEVER.
Or being born in the middle east. The list goes on.

As a "Atheist" if I was born in India with Hindu parents, I would be a Hindu.
LOL how stupid is that.

Just admit it , you all found nothing. NOTHING.

I'm glad i was raised in an atheist home, in the pacific northwest where it's ok to be an atheist. For my first 37 years i was an atheist.
I found god when i was 37, and atheism let me learn about god without the burden of a religion to confuse me.
Everyone should be raised an atheist.

Nice to hear
It's certainly a ideal platform.
I'm 37 now, maybe I will follow you.
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4/16/2016 7:08:13 PM
Posted: 7 months ago
I was raised as a believer, but not religious. No church. No bible studies. No prayer before dinner. Just a general belief that we never really talked about much.

Without the burden of religion I was able to evaluate them all from an unbiased perspective, and although it took 31 years, I realized that they are all based on nonsense.

Thanks Mum @ Dad.
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4/16/2016 7:38:23 PM
Posted: 7 months ago
At 4/16/2016 5:46:24 PM, janesix wrote:
At 4/16/2016 5:24:57 PM, Deb-8-A-Bull wrote:
What a truly great way of finding God.
I mean I had every Avenue open , living in a place where no one religion ruled.

Try to imagine if you can , being born in India , with Hindu parents,
It's laughable, you would never have a chance of finding God. NEVER.
Or being born in the middle east. The list goes on.

As a "Atheist" if I was born in India with Hindu parents, I would be a Hindu.
LOL how stupid is that.

Just admit it , you all found nothing. NOTHING.

I'm glad i was raised in an atheist home, in the pacific northwest where it's ok to be an atheist. For my first 37 years i was an atheist.
I found god when i was 37, and atheism let me learn about god without the burden of a religion to confuse me.
Everyone should be raised an atheist.

Finding God without the dogma of religion brings a clarity of thought.
Deb-8-A-Bull
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4/16/2016 7:41:47 PM
Posted: 7 months ago
At 4/16/2016 7:08:13 PM, Double_R wrote:
I was raised as a believer, but not religious. No church. No bible studies. No prayer before dinner. Just a general belief that we never really talked about much.

Without the burden of religion I was able to evaluate them all from an unbiased perspective, and although it took 31 years, I realized that they are all based on nonsense.

Thanks Mum @ Dad.

Good old Mum @ Dad.
The best way to describe them is . Well , God like.
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4/16/2016 7:45:10 PM
Posted: 7 months ago
I wasn't raised in an atheist home, but I was raised to always learn and do my own thinking. I think everyone should do this with their kids.

I was an atheist for a while, very vocal in fact, who studied a great deal of physics. One day I happened to read the the right scripture, and I began to see how people thousands of years ago were describing a lot of the same things we had only recently discovered by using different language.

I've been hooked on theology ever since, and I've read practically every scripture you can think of, and a have studied a great deal of what is considered to be occult. It drove me into studying history heavily as well.

I am now convinced that pure and undefined religion is a type of scientific method concerning experience.

I would not have such deep convictions and sincere faith had I not first doubted and sought so diligently for the truth.
And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up: That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life. As many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name: which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of the will of God. The hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth,
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4/16/2016 8:23:03 PM
Posted: 7 months ago
Everyone's story will be unique to themselves. As is the concept of "God" that we end up accepting, or rejecting, regardless of how our parents think of "God".

I had a 'God-experience' when I was very young. And so just could not accept the religious characterizations of God that I was soon being taught in Catholic school. And I never did accept them.

Later, when I was a young adult, and away from religious influence, I worked out my own ideas about the "God thing" and have stuck with it ever since (with minor modifications). And my parent's ideas about it had little or no effect on me, throughout.
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4/16/2016 8:36:47 PM
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I'm thankful to have grown up in a home without religious dogma as well. My parents believed in God, but not to the extent that they thought that their beliefs were exclusive.

I believed in God since I was a small child, not because my parents told me to. They seldom mentioned God. My first recollection about believing in God was a sunny day when I was three. I remember staring directly into the sun and knowing I was alive, and that whatever made the sun also made me, other people, animals, plants and the earth. I was an only child, so I pondered things at a young age.

My next recollection of believing in God was in religion class in kindergarten. After dinner, I relayed to my parents, "Father Dibble Said, We are All Brothers and Sisters!" while skipping around with enthusiasm. I wasn't a very impressionable child, cuz I always had ideas of my own, but that teaching stuck with me
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4/16/2016 11:23:34 PM
Posted: 7 months ago
It is obvious all your prarents were either atheist or did not think it would help any of you if they introduced God in your lives.
I cannot say how all of you turned out. But to be an atheists on a religious forum is the big disconnect. You all could have done better but stopped to check what you were missing and now it is all apologies for falling short.
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4/16/2016 11:47:32 PM
Posted: 7 months ago
At 4/16/2016 11:23:34 PM, Harikrish wrote:
It is obvious all your prarents were either atheist or did not think it would help any of you if they introduced God in your lives.
I cannot say how all of you turned out. But to be an atheists on a religious forum is the big disconnect. You all could have done better but stopped to check what you were missing and now it is all apologies for falling short.

Says the champion liar of DDO.
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4/17/2016 1:13:24 AM
Posted: 7 months ago
At 4/16/2016 11:47:32 PM, desmac wrote:
At 4/16/2016 11:23:34 PM, Harikrish wrote:
It is obvious all your prarents were either atheist or did not think it would help any of you if they introduced God in your lives.
I cannot say how all of you turned out. But to be an atheists on a religious forum is the big disconnect. You all could have done better but stopped to check what you were missing and now it is all apologies for falling short.

Says the champion liar of DDO.

You obsessive compulsive behaviour and the need to stalk great personalities is becoming more apparent. You have yet to prove a single accusation. Staying stuck on stupid is not an excuse.
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4/17/2016 3:28:59 AM
Posted: 7 months ago
At 4/16/2016 5:24:57 PM, Deb-8-A-Bull wrote:
What a truly great way of finding God.
I mean I had every Avenue open , living in a place where no one religion ruled.

Try to imagine if you can , being born in India , with Hindu parents,
It's laughable, you would never have a chance of finding God. NEVER.
Or being born in the middle east. The list goes on.

As a "Atheist" if I was born in India with Hindu parents, I would be a Hindu.
LOL how stupid is that.

Just admit it , you all found nothing. NOTHING.

Just because they are not privileged, are you making fun of them?
(This is not a goodbye message. I may or may not come back after ten years.)
Deb-8-A-Bull
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4/17/2016 3:42:55 AM
Posted: 7 months ago
At 4/17/2016 3:28:59 AM, Riwaaz_Ras wrote:
At 4/16/2016 5:24:57 PM, Deb-8-A-Bull wrote:
What a truly great way of finding God.
I mean I had every Avenue open , living in a place where no one religion ruled.

Try to imagine if you can , being born in India , with Hindu parents,
It's laughable, you would never have a chance of finding God. NEVER.
Or being born in the middle east. The list goes on.

As a "Atheist" if I was born in India with Hindu parents, I would be a Hindu.
LOL how stupid is that.

Just admit it , you all found nothing. NOTHING.

Just because they are not privileged, are you making fun of them?

Mmm privileged.
Purr purr.
Your the privilege one son.
You were Born in India .
And as it also happens to be . Your a Hindu.
I mean the odds of that are somewhat amazing.
And you have a god.
So it's you how are privileged.
How can I be privileged ? I don't have a god on my side.
Deb-8-A-Bull
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4/17/2016 3:44:47 AM
Posted: 7 months ago
At 4/17/2016 3:42:55 AM, Deb-8-A-Bull wrote:
At 4/17/2016 3:28:59 AM, Riwaaz_Ras wrote:
At 4/16/2016 5:24:57 PM, Deb-8-A-Bull wrote:
What a truly great way of finding God.
I mean I had every Avenue open , living in a place where no one religion ruled.

Try to imagine if you can , being born in India , with Hindu parents,
It's laughable, you would never have a chance of finding God. NEVER.
Or being born in the middle east. The list goes on.

As a "Atheist" if I was born in India with Hindu parents, I would be a Hindu.
LOL how stupid is that.

Just admit it , you all found nothing. NOTHING.

Just because they are not privileged, are you making fun of them?

Mmm privileged.
Purr purr.
Your the privilege one son.
You were Born in India .
And as it also happens to be . Your a Hindu.
I mean the odds of that are somewhat amazing.
And you have a god.
So it's you how are privileged.
How can I be privileged ? I don't have a god on my side.

I'll go as far to say .
Your that privileged , that you now when the world's ending. You got a heads up.
Deb-8-A-Bull
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4/17/2016 3:53:19 AM
Posted: 7 months ago
At 4/17/2016 3:44:47 AM, Deb-8-A-Bull wrote:
At 4/17/2016 3:42:55 AM, Deb-8-A-Bull wrote:
At 4/17/2016 3:28:59 AM, Riwaaz_Ras wrote:
At 4/16/2016 5:24:57 PM, Deb-8-A-Bull wrote:
What a truly great way of finding God.
I mean I had every Avenue open , living in a place where no one religion ruled.

Try to imagine if you can , being born in India , with Hindu parents,
It's laughable, you would never have a chance of finding God. NEVER.
Or being born in the middle east. The list goes on.

As a "Atheist" if I was born in India with Hindu parents, I would be a Hindu.
LOL how stupid is that.

Just admit it , you all found nothing. NOTHING.

Just because they are not privileged, are you making fun of them?

Mmm privileged.
Purr purr.
Your the privilege one son.
You were Born in India .
And as it also happens to be . Your a Hindu.
I mean the odds of that are somewhat amazing.
And you have a god.
So it's you how are privileged.
How can I be privileged ? I don't have a god on my side.

I'll go as far to say .
Your that privileged , that you now when the world's ending. You got a heads up.

My life's practically in your hands.
All I ask for is a exact date. When The world's endings.
If you don't have a exact date and time. Maybe just maybe. There is a slight chance you gods deceiving you.
It's much better not knowing when it is . You got the rest of your life in the , " Jack in the box " like state.
What a cruel infliction, he has placed upon you.
But you got your god's , so it's all good.
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4/17/2016 4:07:27 AM
Posted: 7 months ago
At 4/17/2016 3:42:55 AM, Deb-8-A-Bull wrote:
At 4/17/2016 3:28:59 AM, Riwaaz_Ras wrote:
At 4/16/2016 5:24:57 PM, Deb-8-A-Bull wrote:
What a truly great way of finding God.
I mean I had every Avenue open , living in a place where no one religion ruled.

Try to imagine if you can , being born in India , with Hindu parents,
It's laughable, you would never have a chance of finding God. NEVER.
Or being born in the middle east. The list goes on.

As a "Atheist" if I was born in India with Hindu parents, I would be a Hindu.
LOL how stupid is that.

Just admit it , you all found nothing. NOTHING.

Just because they are not privileged, are you making fun of them?

Mmm privileged.
Purr purr.
Your the privilege one son.
You were Born in India .

Right.

And as it also happens to be . Your a Hindu.

Yes, I am a Hindu.

I mean the odds of that are somewhat amazing.

Not at all. Majority of population in India is Hindu. Once upon a time, the whole world was hindu. As we know some people converted to Islam and some to Christianity, by sword and Greed, DNA tests do not lie.

And you have a god.

Multi armed Gods are 'Hinduism Exclusive'. We love our gods. You should see the spark in the eyes of children excited to visit magnificent temples.

So it's you how are privileged.

Aura of the Indian land is incredible. And you left out the festivals, food, culture blah blah blah.

How can I be privileged ? I don't have a god on my side.

Have yourself on your side. Don't worry about God.
(This is not a goodbye message. I may or may not come back after ten years.)
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4/17/2016 4:08:44 AM
Posted: 7 months ago
At 4/17/2016 3:44:47 AM, Deb-8-A-Bull wrote:
At 4/17/2016 3:42:55 AM, Deb-8-A-Bull wrote:
At 4/17/2016 3:28:59 AM, Riwaaz_Ras wrote:
At 4/16/2016 5:24:57 PM, Deb-8-A-Bull wrote:
What a truly great way of finding God.
I mean I had every Avenue open , living in a place where no one religion ruled.

Try to imagine if you can , being born in India , with Hindu parents,
It's laughable, you would never have a chance of finding God. NEVER.
Or being born in the middle east. The list goes on.

As a "Atheist" if I was born in India with Hindu parents, I would be a Hindu.
LOL how stupid is that.

Just admit it , you all found nothing. NOTHING.

Just because they are not privileged, are you making fun of them?

Mmm privileged.
Purr purr.
Your the privilege one son.
You were Born in India .
And as it also happens to be . Your a Hindu.
I mean the odds of that are somewhat amazing.
And you have a god.
So it's you how are privileged.
How can I be privileged ? I don't have a god on my side.

I'll go as far to say .
Your that privileged , that you now when the world's ending. You got a heads up.

I never said that.
(This is not a goodbye message. I may or may not come back after ten years.)
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4/17/2016 4:11:02 AM
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"Mum at dad"
Ego sum qui sum. Deus lo vult.

"America is ungovernable; those who served the revolution have plowed the sea." - Simon Bolivar

"A healthy nation is as unconscious of its nationality as a healthy man of his bones. But if you break a nation's nationality it will think of nothing else but getting it set again." - George Bernard Shaw
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4/17/2016 4:19:53 AM
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At 4/17/2016 4:11:02 AM, someloser wrote:
"Mum at dad"

Shhhhhh.
7 seconds after I pressed add.
I went why would I put a (at) there.
I walked in my room and my cat was laying on my keyboard.
I didn't even make the post.
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4/17/2016 4:25:06 AM
Posted: 7 months ago
At 4/16/2016 5:24:57 PM, Deb-8-A-Bull wrote:
What a truly great way of finding God.
I mean I had every Avenue open , living in a place where no one religion ruled.

Try to imagine if you can , being born in India , with Hindu parents,
It's laughable, you would never have a chance of finding God. NEVER.
Or being born in the middle east. The list goes on.

As a "Atheist" if I was born in India with Hindu parents, I would be a Hindu.
LOL how stupid is that.

Just admit it , you all found nothing. NOTHING.

It is the right time to ponder Islam.
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4/17/2016 4:29:32 AM
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At 4/17/2016 4:25:06 AM, uncung wrote:
At 4/16/2016 5:24:57 PM, Deb-8-A-Bull wrote:
What a truly great way of finding God.
I mean I had every Avenue open , living in a place where no one religion ruled.

Try to imagine if you can , being born in India , with Hindu parents,
It's laughable, you would never have a chance of finding God. NEVER.
Or being born in the middle east. The list goes on.

As a "Atheist" if I was born in India with Hindu parents, I would be a Hindu.
LOL how stupid is that.

Just admit it , you all found nothing. NOTHING.

It is the right time to ponder Islam.

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(This is not a goodbye message. I may or may not come back after ten years.)
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4/17/2016 4:29:51 AM
Posted: 7 months ago
At 4/17/2016 4:25:06 AM, uncung wrote:
At 4/16/2016 5:24:57 PM, Deb-8-A-Bull wrote:
What a truly great way of finding God.
I mean I had every Avenue open , living in a place where no one religion ruled.

Try to imagine if you can , being born in India , with Hindu parents,
It's laughable, you would never have a chance of finding God. NEVER.
Or being born in the middle east. The list goes on.

As a "Atheist" if I was born in India with Hindu parents, I would be a Hindu.
LOL how stupid is that.

Just admit it , you all found nothing. NOTHING.

It is the right time to ponder Islam.

I ponder all .
But as I got only stories to go by. And rather comical ones may I add.
I find it hard to find a God. I'll keep the search going.
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4/17/2016 5:00:05 AM
Posted: 7 months ago
At 4/17/2016 4:29:51 AM, Deb-8-A-Bull wrote:
At 4/17/2016 4:25:06 AM, uncung wrote:
At 4/16/2016 5:24:57 PM, Deb-8-A-Bull wrote:
What a truly great way of finding God.
I mean I had every Avenue open , living in a place where no one religion ruled.

Try to imagine if you can , being born in India , with Hindu parents,
It's laughable, you would never have a chance of finding God. NEVER.
Or being born in the middle east. The list goes on.

As a "Atheist" if I was born in India with Hindu parents, I would be a Hindu.
LOL how stupid is that.

Just admit it , you all found nothing. NOTHING.

It is the right time to ponder Islam.

I ponder all .
But as I got only stories to go by. And rather comical ones may I add.
I find it hard to find a God. I'll keep the search going.

Why is it hard? Doesn't we are here in this world because God creates us?
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4/17/2016 7:52:59 AM
Posted: 7 months ago
At 4/16/2016 8:36:47 PM, Emmarie wrote:
I'm thankful to have grown up in a home without religious dogma as well. My parents believed in God, but not to the extent that they thought that their beliefs were exclusive.

I believed in God since I was a small child, not because my parents told me to. They seldom mentioned God. My first recollection about believing in God was a sunny day when I was three. I remember staring directly into the sun and knowing I was alive, and that whatever made the sun also made me, other people, animals, plants and the earth. I was an only child, so I pondered things at a young age.

Yes, we all have the ability to think critically (or even remember anything) at three years of age. Lol.

My next recollection of believing in God was in religion class in kindergarten. After dinner, I relayed to my parents, "Father Dibble Said, We are All Brothers and Sisters!" while skipping around with enthusiasm. I wasn't a very impressionable child, cuz I always had ideas of my own, but that teaching stuck with me.

You weren't very impressionable but this made an impression on you. You grew up in a home without religious dogma but you attended religious classes. Do you even comprehend the contradictions inherent in your statements?

Critical thinking does not start until about your teenage years. Everything before that is mere acceptance of authority figures.
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4/17/2016 8:01:08 AM
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As non believers my husband and I brought up our children to decide for themselves about religion. We had the evil, 'you must be saved, or else', dogma forced upon us as kids. Our three girls are moderate, non Biblical literalist Christians, the eldest is an Anglican priest. They are thoroughly decent people and we are very proud of them.
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4/17/2016 3:12:22 PM
Posted: 7 months ago
At 4/17/2016 7:52:59 AM, dee-em wrote:
At 4/16/2016 8:36:47 PM, Emmarie wrote:
I'm thankful to have grown up in a home without religious dogma as well. My parents believed in God, but not to the extent that they thought that their beliefs were exclusive.

I believed in God since I was a small child, not because my parents told me to. They seldom mentioned God. My first recollection about believing in God was a sunny day when I was three. I remember staring directly into the sun and knowing I was alive, and that whatever made the sun also made me, other people, animals, plants and the earth. I was an only child, so I pondered things at a young age.

Yes, we all have the ability to think critically (or even remember anything) at three years of age. Lol.
You may not - but I have vivid childhood memories of when I was 3.

My next recollection of believing in God was in religion class in kindergarten. After dinner, I relayed to my parents, "Father Dibble Said, We are All Brothers and Sisters!" while skipping around with enthusiasm. I wasn't a very impressionable child, cuz I always had ideas of my own, but that teaching stuck with me.

You weren't very impressionable but this made an impression on you.
Yes - because I hated being an only child and wanted brothers and sisters, so it made a huge impression on me.

You grew up in a home without religious dogma but you attended religious classes. Do you even comprehend the contradictions inherent in your statements?

Critical thinking does not start until about your teenage years. Everything before that is mere acceptance of authority figures.

Maybe to you critical thinking didn't start till you were in your teens. I was allowed to make decisions at 4 - lol.

My parents were talking about whether or not I should attend a public school or the Catholic School, in our neighborhood. They had held, "Impeach Nixon" meetings at our home, so I was familiar with the word "republican." I came running into the room and said, " How can I go to a public school, when I'm a democrat?" They burst into laughter and said, I guess she's going to the Catholic school, even though I mis associated the word public with republican, they were so amused, that they let me make the decision.

It was a very liberal Catholic School in the inner city in the 70's that had students of all faiths and races. They didn't force religion down students throats - or preach to believe in God out of fear. Not everyone who is taught about God, turns into a judgmental finger pointer. The example I gave of the priest's instruction in kindergarten, is how religion was taught throughout the years. When I was in seventh grade, we had a black Jesus for the Passion, before it was vogue.

Deb was giving thanks for his parents and I'm giving thanks for mine.
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4/18/2016 2:40:13 AM
Posted: 7 months ago
At 4/17/2016 3:12:22 PM, Emmarie wrote:
At 4/17/2016 7:52:59 AM, dee-em wrote:
At 4/16/2016 8:36:47 PM, Emmarie wrote:
I'm thankful to have grown up in a home without religious dogma as well. My parents believed in God, but not to the extent that they thought that their beliefs were exclusive.

I believed in God since I was a small child, not because my parents told me to. They seldom mentioned God. My first recollection about believing in God was a sunny day when I was three. I remember staring directly into the sun and knowing I was alive, and that whatever made the sun also made me, other people, animals, plants and the earth. I was an only child, so I pondered things at a young age.

Yes, we all have the ability to think critically (or even remember anything) at three years of age. Lol.
You may not - but I have vivid childhood memories of when I was 3.

It's possible, although childhood amnesia means that most of us cannot remember anything before the age of about 3-4 years or even more. That is not the point though. My point is that you had no critical thinking skills at that age. You didn't come up with the idea of a creator for the world around you. It was instilled in you whether you were aware of it or not. The Australian indigenous people lived on their continent for 30,000 years (2,000 generations) and no-one came up with this idea. They had dreamtime myths and stories about how the world around them formed but no notion of a single creator. Therefore it's highly unlikely that you, at 3 years of age, had this revelation all on your lonesome. Don't you think?

My next recollection of believing in God was in religion class in kindergarten. After dinner, I relayed to my parents, "Father Dibble Said, We are All Brothers and Sisters!" while skipping around with enthusiasm. I wasn't a very impressionable child, cuz I always had ideas of my own, but that teaching stuck with me.

You weren't very impressionable but this made an impression on you.
Yes - because I hated being an only child and wanted brothers and sisters, so it made a huge impression on me.

But you weren't impressionable, right?

You grew up in a home without religious dogma but you attended religious classes. Do you even comprehend the contradictions inherent in your statements?

I guess not.

Critical thinking does not start until about your teenage years. Everything before that is mere acceptance of authority figures.

Maybe to you critical thinking didn't start till you were in your teens. I was allowed to make decisions at 4 - lol.

I'm talking about apples and you're talking about oranges. You were not able to think critically at age 4 unless you were a freak of nature. Look up any child development literature on the stages of critical thinking.

My parents were talking about whether or not I should attend a public school or the Catholic School, in our neighborhood. They had held, "Impeach Nixon" meetings at our home, so I was familiar with the word "republican." I came running into the room and said, " How can I go to a public school, when I'm a democrat?" They burst into laughter and said, I guess she's going to the Catholic school, even though I mis associated the word public with republican, they were so amused, that they let me make the decision.

Wow, you've convinced me. A perfect example of critical thought. Lol.

It was a very liberal Catholic School in the inner city in the 70's that had students of all faiths and races. They didn't force religion down students throats - or preach to believe in God out of fear. Not everyone who is taught about God, turns into a judgmental finger pointer. The example I gave of the priest's instruction in kindergarten, is how religion was taught throughout the years. When I was in seventh grade, we had a black Jesus for the Passion, before it was vogue.

*sigh* I have taught in religious schools. I know what goes on there. Please don't tell me religion is not forced on you. It is even if you don't consider it forcing. You were progressively indoctrinated at an impressionable age. That's exactly why these schools exist.

Jesuit maxim "Give me the child for the first seven years and I'll give you the man."

Deb was giving thanks for his parents and I'm giving thanks for mine.

What else could you say since they achieved the desired outcome and you bought the snake oil willingly?
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4/18/2016 3:07:29 AM
Posted: 7 months ago
At 4/16/2016 5:24:57 PM, Deb-8-A-Bull wrote:
What a truly great way of finding God.
I mean I had every Avenue open , living in a place where no one religion ruled.

Try to imagine if you can , being born in India , with Hindu parents,
It's laughable, you would never have a chance of finding God. NEVER.
Or being born in the middle east. The list goes on.

As a "Atheist" if I was born in India with Hindu parents, I would be a Hindu.
LOL how stupid is that.

Just admit it , you all found nothing. NOTHING.

My parents aren't religious church going folks. And My father i best described as an Agnostic. The question of God's existence is "meaningless" to him.

So I'm not an Atheist because of my upbringing. I read parts of the Koran before I read books of the Bible. And after the Reading the Bible I went straight to Guru Granth Sahib. Then Mahabhutas.

I'm sure their was some cultural, social, and lingual influence. But I only fancied the idea of God, until incidents in my life made God's existence irrefutable to me.

This acceptance wasn't indoctrinated in me by my parents, teachers, or friends. And after being exposed to scripture accepting God's existence wasn't "real" to me until later.

So while I can see that many people identify as Christian because that is the family they grew up in. I do not accept that it is the only reason for a person coming to knowledge of God.
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4/18/2016 3:50:19 AM
Posted: 7 months ago
At 4/16/2016 5:24:57 PM, Deb-8-A-Bull wrote:
What a truly great way of finding God.
I mean I had every Avenue open , living in a place where no one religion ruled.

Try to imagine if you can , being born in India , with Hindu parents,
It's laughable, you would never have a chance of finding God. NEVER.
Or being born in the middle east. The list goes on.

As a "Atheist" if I was born in India with Hindu parents, I would be a Hindu.
LOL how stupid is that.

Just admit it , you all found nothing. NOTHING.

Wanna bet? Believe in science.
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