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4 Riders of Apocalypse Part 2

brontoraptor
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4/21/2016 5:22:23 PM
Posted: 7 months ago
The White Horse
I watched as the Lamb opened the first of the seven seals. Then I heard one of the four living creatures say in a voice like thunder, "Come and see!" I looked, and there before me was a white horse! Its rider held a bow, and he was given a crown, and he rode out as a conqueror bent on conquest. ( Revelation 6:1-2)

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Quran (8:39) - "And fight with them until there is no more fitna (Nonmuslim ways) and religion is all for Allah."

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The Red Horse
When the Lamb opened the second seal, I heard the second living creature say, "Come and see!" Then another horse came out, a fiery red one. Its rider was given power to take peace from the earth and to make men slay each other. To him was given a large sword. ( Revelation 6:3-4)

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Quran (2:244) - "Then fight in the cause of Allah, and know that Allah Heareth and knoweth all things."

Quran (2:216) - "Fighting is prescribed for you, and ye dislike it. But it is possible that ye dislike a thing which is good for you, and that ye love a thing which is bad for you. But Allah knoweth, and ye know not."

Quran (4:74) - "Let those fight in the way of Allah who sell the life of this world for the other. Whoso fighteth in the way of Allah, be he slain or be he victorious, on him We shall bestow a vast reward."

Quran (8:12) - "I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them."

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The Black Horse
When the Lamb opened the third seal, I heard the third living creature say, "Come and see!" I looked, and there before me was a black horse! Its rider was holding a pair of scales in his hand. Then I heard what sounded like a voice among the four living creatures, saying, "A quart of wheat for a day"s wages, and three quarts of barley for a day"s wages, and do not damage the OIL and the WINE." (Revelation 6:5-6)

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For all the nations have drunk the maddening WINE of her adulteries.
(Revelation 18:3)

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Who is "her"?

The name written on her forehead was a mystery: babylon the great the mother of prostitutes and of the abominations of the earth.
(Revelation 17:5)

I saw that the woman was drunk with the blood of God's holy people, the blood of those who bore testimony to Jesus. When I saw her, I was greatly astonished.
(Revelation 17:6)

Then the angel said to me, "The waters where the prostitute is ruling represent masses of people of every nation and language.
(Revelation 17:15)

Today, more than 15 million Muslims visit Mecca annually, including several million during the few days of the Hajj. As a result, Mecca has become the most cosmopolitan and diverse city in the world.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org...

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The woman you saw is the great city that rules over the kings of the earth."
(Revelation 17:18)

"Oil has enslaved the world to Saudi Arabia."

https://www.goodreads.com...

Saudis responsible for 9/11 yet in the clear?

http://www.cnn.com...

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For all the nations have drunk the maddening WINE of her adulteries. The kings of the earth committed adultery with her, and the merchants of the earth grew rich from her excessive luxuries."
(Revelation 18:3)

Speaks for itself...

http://www.therichest.com...

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Mystery Babylon-

http://youtu.be...

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Proof of Mystery Babylon-

http://www.debate.org...

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The Pale (Green) Horse

The color of Death's horse is written as khl!3;ros in the original Koine Greek, which means green.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org...

When the Lamb opened the fourth seal, I heard the voice of the fourth living creature say, "Come and see!" I looked and there before me was a pale horse! Its rider was named Death, and Hades was following close behind him. They were given power over 1/4 of the earth to kill BY THE SWORD. (Revelation 6:7-8)

1/4 of world is Muslim-

http://edition.cnn.com...

The "Sword of Islam"

http://youtu.be...

"The "Sword of Islam" 2

http://youtu.be...

"More Swords of Allah"

https://ansaaar1.wordpress.com...
"What Donald Trump is doing is representing the absolute heartbreak, and anger, and frustration at a government gone mad."

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FaustianJustice
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4/21/2016 5:42:36 PM
Posted: 7 months ago
The Black Horse
When the Lamb opened the third seal, I heard the third living creature say, "Come and see!" I looked, and there before me was a black horse! Its rider was holding a pair of scales in his hand. Then I heard what sounded like a voice among the four living creatures, saying, "A quart of wheat for a day"s wages, and three quarts of barley for a day"s wages, and do not damage the OIL and the WINE." (Revelation 6:5-6)

Goes with:

For all the nations have drunk the maddening WINE of her adulteries.
(Revelation 18:3)

No it doesn't.

The HotA "Famine" indicates roughly effectively one Roman soldier's wage for a day (one denarius) could purchase either a rations worth of drink or a daily serving of bread. The oil and the wine to not be harmed is indicative of sacrament, as they were both used in ceremony. Usury could not be applied to them as was applied to other food stuffs. THAT was this particular horseman's 'talent'.

Strife
War
Famine
Death

Its the natural order for conflict. Nations gain authority, nations war, the food supply runs low, the nation collapses.
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Here we have an advocate for Islamic arranged marriages demonstrating that children can consent to sex.
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brontoraptor
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4/21/2016 5:57:42 PM
Posted: 7 months ago
At 4/21/2016 5:42:36 PM, FaustianJustice wrote:
The Black Horse
When the Lamb opened the third seal, I heard the third living creature say, "Come and see!" I looked, and there before me was a black horse! Its rider was holding a pair of scales in his hand. Then I heard what sounded like a voice among the four living creatures, saying, "A quart of wheat for a day"s wages, and three quarts of barley for a day"s wages, and do not damage the OIL and the WINE." (Revelation 6:5-6)

Goes with:

For all the nations have drunk the maddening WINE of her adulteries.
(Revelation 18:3)

No it doesn't.

The HotA "Famine" indicates roughly effectively one Roman soldier's wage for a day (one denarius) could purchase either a rations worth of drink or a daily serving of bread. The oil and the wine to not be harmed is indicative of sacrament, as they were both used in ceremony. Usury could not be applied to them as was applied to other food stuffs. THAT was this particular horseman's 'talent'.

Strife
War
Famine
Death

Its the natural order for conflict. Nations gain authority, nations war, the food supply runs low, the nation collapses.
De

Do you think thos correlates in any way, or what is your own personal view on Revelation?
"What Donald Trump is doing is representing the absolute heartbreak, and anger, and frustration at a government gone mad."

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FaustianJustice
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4/21/2016 6:28:56 PM
Posted: 7 months ago
At 4/21/2016 5:57:42 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 4/21/2016 5:42:36 PM, FaustianJustice wrote:
The Black Horse
When the Lamb opened the third seal, I heard the third living creature say, "Come and see!" I looked, and there before me was a black horse! Its rider was holding a pair of scales in his hand. Then I heard what sounded like a voice among the four living creatures, saying, "A quart of wheat for a day"s wages, and three quarts of barley for a day"s wages, and do not damage the OIL and the WINE." (Revelation 6:5-6)

Goes with:

For all the nations have drunk the maddening WINE of her adulteries.
(Revelation 18:3)

No it doesn't.

The HotA "Famine" indicates roughly effectively one Roman soldier's wage for a day (one denarius) could purchase either a rations worth of drink or a daily serving of bread. The oil and the wine to not be harmed is indicative of sacrament, as they were both used in ceremony. Usury could not be applied to them as was applied to other food stuffs. THAT was this particular horseman's 'talent'.

Strife
War
Famine
Death

Its the natural order for conflict. Nations gain authority, nations war, the food supply runs low, the nation collapses.
De

Do you think thos correlates in any way, or what is your own personal view on Revelation?

From the whore of Babylon to what Famine kept sacrosanct? No, I don't find them to correlate at all. It doesn't "go with" beyond mentioning wine. Famine is referring to a literal substance, Jezebel and her beast are metaphorical reference to being drunk on the debauchery of having been led down a false path.

St. John the Revelator with the HotA was outlying the step by step ways in which nations would set upon each other, and the literal aftermaths. A greedy conqueror, warring men, the populace starving, the death that followed.
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