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4/27/2016 10:28:55 PM
Posted: 7 months ago
The seizure of Infidel girls and their use as sex slaves is sanctioned in the Qur"an. According to Islamic law, Muslim men can take "captives of the right hand" (Qur"an 4:3, 4:24, 33:50). The Qur"an says: "O Prophet! Lo! We have made lawful unto thee thy wives unto whom thou hast paid their dowries, and those whom thy right hand possesseth of those whom Allah hath given thee as spoils of war" (33:50). 4:3 and 4:24 extend this privilege to Muslim men in general. The Qur"an says that a man may have sex with his wives and with these slave girls: "The believers must (eventually) win through, those who humble themselves in their prayers; who avoid vain talk; who are active in deeds of charity; who abstain from sex, except with those joined to them in the marriage bond, or (the captives) whom their right hands possess, for (in their case) they are free from blame." (Qur"an 23:1-6)

The rape of captive women is also sanctioned in Islamic tradition:

Abu Sirma said to Abu Sa"id al Khadri (Allah he pleased with him): 0 Abu Sa"id, did you hear Allah"s Messenger (may peace be upon him) mentioning al-"azl? He said: Yes, and added: We went out with Allah"s Messenger (may peace be upon him) on the expedition to the Bi"l-Mustaliq and took captive some excellent Arab women; and we desired them, for we were suffering from the absence of our wives, (but at the same time) we also desired ransom for them. So we decided to have sexual intercourse with them but by observing "azl (Withdrawing the male sexual organ before emission of semen to avoid conception). But we said: We are doing an act whereas Allah"s Messenger is amongst us; why not ask him? So we asked Allah"s Messenger (may peace be upon him), and he said: It does not matter if you do not do it, for every soul that is to be born up to the Day of Resurrection will be born. (Sahih Muslim 3371)

It is also in Islamic law: "When a child or a woman is taken captive, they become slaves by the fact of capture, and the woman"s previous marriage is immediately annulled." (Umdat al-Salik O9.13)

So Muslims, do you actually dispute this? Or do you accept your bigoted, sexist, intolerant false religion actually permits Muslim men to capture and/or rape non Muslim women?
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4/27/2016 11:46:36 PM
Posted: 7 months ago
At 4/27/2016 10:28:55 PM, Chloe8 wrote:
The seizure of Infidel girls and their use as sex slaves is sanctioned in the Qur"an. According to Islamic law, Muslim men can take "captives of the right hand" (Qur"an 4:3, 4:24, 33:50). The Qur"an says: "O Prophet! Lo! We have made lawful unto thee thy wives unto whom thou hast paid their dowries, and those whom thy right hand possesseth of those whom Allah hath given thee as spoils of war" (33:50). 4:3 and 4:24 extend this privilege to Muslim men in general. The Qur"an says that a man may have sex with his wives and with these slave girls: "The believers must (eventually) win through, those who humble themselves in their prayers; who avoid vain talk; who are active in deeds of charity; who abstain from sex, except with those joined to them in the marriage bond, or (the captives) whom their right hands possess, for (in their case) they are free from blame." (Qur"an 23:1-6)

The rape of captive women is also sanctioned in Islamic tradition:

Abu Sirma said to Abu Sa"id al Khadri (Allah he pleased with him): 0 Abu Sa"id, did you hear Allah"s Messenger (may peace be upon him) mentioning al-"azl? He said: Yes, and added: We went out with Allah"s Messenger (may peace be upon him) on the expedition to the Bi"l-Mustaliq and took captive some excellent Arab women; and we desired them, for we were suffering from the absence of our wives, (but at the same time) we also desired ransom for them. So we decided to have sexual intercourse with them but by observing "azl (Withdrawing the male sexual organ before emission of semen to avoid conception). But we said: We are doing an act whereas Allah"s Messenger is amongst us; why not ask him? So we asked Allah"s Messenger (may peace be upon him), and he said: It does not matter if you do not do it, for every soul that is to be born up to the Day of Resurrection will be born. (Sahih Muslim 3371)

It is also in Islamic law: "When a child or a woman is taken captive, they become slaves by the fact of capture, and the woman"s previous marriage is immediately annulled." (Umdat al-Salik O9.13)

So Muslims, do you actually dispute this? Or do you accept your bigoted, sexist, intolerant false religion actually permits Muslim men to capture and/or rape non Muslim women?

I don't see any "rape" word be mentioned in those passages.
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4/28/2016 12:06:41 AM
Posted: 7 months ago
At 4/27/2016 11:46:36 PM, uncung wrote:
At 4/27/2016 10:28:55 PM, Chloe8 wrote:
The seizure of Infidel girls and their use as sex slaves is sanctioned in the Qur"an. According to Islamic law, Muslim men can take "captives of the right hand" (Qur"an 4:3, 4:24, 33:50). The Qur"an says: "O Prophet! Lo! We have made lawful unto thee thy wives unto whom thou hast paid their dowries, and those whom thy right hand possesseth of those whom Allah hath given thee as spoils of war" (33:50). 4:3 and 4:24 extend this privilege to Muslim men in general. The Qur"an says that a man may have sex with his wives and with these slave girls: "The believers must (eventually) win through, those who humble themselves in their prayers; who avoid vain talk; who are active in deeds of charity; who abstain from sex, except with those joined to them in the marriage bond, or (the captives) whom their right hands possess, for (in their case) they are free from blame." (Qur"an 23:1-6)

The rape of captive women is also sanctioned in Islamic tradition:

Abu Sirma said to Abu Sa"id al Khadri (Allah he pleased with him): 0 Abu Sa"id, did you hear Allah"s Messenger (may peace be upon him) mentioning al-"azl? He said: Yes, and added: We went out with Allah"s Messenger (may peace be upon him) on the expedition to the Bi"l-Mustaliq and took captive some excellent Arab women; and we desired them, for we were suffering from the absence of our wives, (but at the same time) we also desired ransom for them. So we decided to have sexual intercourse with them but by observing "azl (Withdrawing the male sexual organ before emission of semen to avoid conception). But we said: We are doing an act whereas Allah"s Messenger is amongst us; why not ask him? So we asked Allah"s Messenger (may peace be upon him), and he said: It does not matter if you do not do it, for every soul that is to be born up to the Day of Resurrection will be born. (Sahih Muslim 3371)

It is also in Islamic law: "When a child or a woman is taken captive, they become slaves by the fact of capture, and the woman"s previous marriage is immediately annulled." (Umdat al-Salik O9.13)

So Muslims, do you actually dispute this? Or do you accept your bigoted, sexist, intolerant false religion actually permits Muslim men to capture and/or rape non Muslim women?

I don't see any "rape" word be mentioned in those passages.

No word of God in these passages either. That is for sure
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4/28/2016 12:08:19 AM
Posted: 7 months ago
At 4/27/2016 11:46:36 PM, uncung wrote:
At 4/27/2016 10:28:55 PM, Chloe8 wrote:
The seizure of Infidel girls and their use as sex slaves is sanctioned in the Qur"an. According to Islamic law, Muslim men can take "captives of the right hand" (Qur"an 4:3, 4:24, 33:50). The Qur"an says: "O Prophet! Lo! We have made lawful unto thee thy wives unto whom thou hast paid their dowries, and those whom thy right hand possesseth of those whom Allah hath given thee as spoils of war" (33:50). 4:3 and 4:24 extend this privilege to Muslim men in general. The Qur"an says that a man may have sex with his wives and with these slave girls: "The believers must (eventually) win through, those who humble themselves in their prayers; who avoid vain talk; who are active in deeds of charity; who abstain from sex, except with those joined to them in the marriage bond, or (the captives) whom their right hands possess, for (in their case) they are free from blame." (Qur"an 23:1-6)

The rape of captive women is also sanctioned in Islamic tradition:

Abu Sirma said to Abu Sa"id al Khadri (Allah he pleased with him): 0 Abu Sa"id, did you hear Allah"s Messenger (may peace be upon him) mentioning al-"azl? He said: Yes, and added: We went out with Allah"s Messenger (may peace be upon him) on the expedition to the Bi"l-Mustaliq and took captive some excellent Arab women; and we desired them, for we were suffering from the absence of our wives, (but at the same time) we also desired ransom for them. So we decided to have sexual intercourse with them but by observing "azl (Withdrawing the male sexual organ before emission of semen to avoid conception). But we said: We are doing an act whereas Allah"s Messenger is amongst us; why not ask him? So we asked Allah"s Messenger (may peace be upon him), and he said: It does not matter if you do not do it, for every soul that is to be born up to the Day of Resurrection will be born. (Sahih Muslim 3371)

It is also in Islamic law: "When a child or a woman is taken captive, they become slaves by the fact of capture, and the woman"s previous marriage is immediately annulled." (Umdat al-Salik O9.13)

So Muslims, do you actually dispute this? Or do you accept your bigoted, sexist, intolerant false religion actually permits Muslim men to capture and/or rape non Muslim women?

I don't see any "rape" word be mentioned in those passages.

When you imprison someone against their will and use them as a sex slave, every time you engage in sexual intercourse it is rape. Do you disagree?
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4/28/2016 12:15:32 AM
Posted: 7 months ago
I don't see any "rape" word be mentioned in those passages.

When you imprison someone against their will and use them as a sex slave, every time you engage in sexual intercourse it is rape. Do you disagree?

Having sex is not always implying raping, is it?
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4/28/2016 12:16:56 AM
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I don't see any "rape" word be mentioned in those passages.


No word of God in these passages either. That is for sure

What about Allah?
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4/28/2016 12:27:47 AM
Posted: 7 months ago
At 4/28/2016 12:16:56 AM, uncung wrote:
I don't see any "rape" word be mentioned in those passages.


No word of God in these passages either. That is for sure

What about Allah?

Ok, Allah then
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4/28/2016 12:48:27 AM
Posted: 7 months ago
At 4/28/2016 12:15:32 AM, uncung wrote:
I don't see any "rape" word be mentioned in those passages.

When you imprison someone against their will and use them as a sex slave, every time you engage in sexual intercourse it is rape. Do you disagree?

Having sex is not always implying raping, is it?

Sex without consent is rape. A slave is unlikely to consent to forced sex.
The metaphysicist has no laboratory.
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4/28/2016 1:09:29 AM
Posted: 7 months ago
At 4/28/2016 12:48:27 AM, Looncall wrote:
At 4/28/2016 12:15:32 AM, uncung wrote:
I don't see any "rape" word be mentioned in those passages.

When you imprison someone against their will and use them as a sex slave, every time you engage in sexual intercourse it is rape. Do you disagree?

Having sex is not always implying raping, is it?

Sex without consent is rape. A slave is unlikely to consent to forced sex.

The slaves already knew well their role in the society, they knew they may have sex with their masters.
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4/28/2016 7:58:03 AM
Posted: 7 months ago
At 4/28/2016 1:09:29 AM, uncung wrote:
At 4/28/2016 12:48:27 AM, Looncall wrote:
At 4/28/2016 12:15:32 AM, uncung wrote:
I don't see any "rape" word be mentioned in those passages.

When you imprison someone against their will and use them as a sex slave, every time you engage in sexual intercourse it is rape. Do you disagree?

Having sex is not always implying raping, is it?

Sex without consent is rape. A slave is unlikely to consent to forced sex.

The slaves already knew well their role in the society, they knew they may have sex with their masters.

They knew they would be forced to have sex. Still rape.

I find it unsettling that you seem comfortable with the ideas of slavery and forced sex. I guess it follows from the muslim view of women as livestock.
The metaphysicist has no laboratory.
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4/28/2016 9:01:39 AM
Posted: 7 months ago
There are of course equally barbarous passages in ot. It has to be remembered scripture is man made. It was written by men and reflects the conditions at the time it is written.

War, conquest and being conquered was not a theoretical issue for the scribes responsible for the ot and Koran. It was, actual or potential, a constant reality. From such passages in thr ot and Koran we can learn something about the nature of ancient warfare, that is all.

Turning to the nt things seem very different. The Jews of Roman Palestine were not engaged in tribal wars. The were oppressed and politically powerless. The might of Rome seemed invincible and there seemed no hope of any improvement.

This the nt does not speak of war and conquest but of passivity and resignation. With no prospect of things getting better on earth, Christianity offered the prospect of a posthumous paradise, a notion borrowed from Greek thought that was not traditionally Jewish or Hebrew.

The 'niceness' of Christianity reflects the fact that under Roman rule the Jews were not in a position to wage war or even rebel. Christianity presented powerless and passivity as vitrues (the meek shall inherit the earth, turn the other cheek) because that is how it was for the Jews under rome.
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4/29/2016 12:20:18 AM
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There ARE rules to the rape proccess. If your dad gets her first, you cannot partake...
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4/29/2016 1:40:18 AM
Posted: 7 months ago
At 4/28/2016 7:58:03 AM, Looncall wrote:
At 4/28/2016 1:09:29 AM, uncung wrote:
At 4/28/2016 12:48:27 AM, Looncall wrote:
At 4/28/2016 12:15:32 AM, uncung wrote:
I don't see any "rape" word be mentioned in those passages.

When you imprison someone against their will and use them as a sex slave, every time you engage in sexual intercourse it is rape. Do you disagree?

Having sex is not always implying raping, is it?

Sex without consent is rape. A slave is unlikely to consent to forced sex.

The slaves already knew well their role in the society, they knew they may have sex with their masters.

They knew they would be forced to have sex. Still rape.

I find it unsettling that you seem comfortable with the ideas of slavery and forced sex. I guess it follows from the muslim view of women as livestock.

Were they ever forced to have sex with their masters?
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4/29/2016 1:49:07 AM
Posted: 7 months ago
At 4/29/2016 1:40:18 AM, uncung wrote:
At 4/28/2016 7:58:03 AM, Looncall wrote:
At 4/28/2016 1:09:29 AM, uncung wrote:
At 4/28/2016 12:48:27 AM, Looncall wrote:
At 4/28/2016 12:15:32 AM, uncung wrote:
I don't see any "rape" word be mentioned in those passages.

When you imprison someone against their will and use them as a sex slave, every time you engage in sexual intercourse it is rape. Do you disagree?

Having sex is not always implying raping, is it?

Sex without consent is rape. A slave is unlikely to consent to forced sex.

The slaves already knew well their role in the society, they knew they may have sex with their masters.

They knew they would be forced to have sex. Still rape.

I find it unsettling that you seem comfortable with the ideas of slavery and forced sex. I guess it follows from the muslim view of women as livestock.

Were they ever forced to have sex with their masters?

Come on uncung. Can you have sex slaves in a battle on the West or not? Islamic jihadist fascists would rape an infidel with no conscience? Why? Muhammed told them to. For God' s sake, the man raped a toddler, had more wives than he himself said was permissable, and taught lying. Muhammed enjoyed raping and pillaging. And THIS man is the example? Why not Gahndi?
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4/29/2016 2:24:37 AM
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Were they ever forced to have sex with their masters?

Come on uncung. Can you have sex slaves in a battle on the West or not? Islamic jihadist fascists would rape an infidel with no conscience? Why? Muhammed told them to. For God' s sake, the man raped a toddler, had more wives than he himself said was permissable, and taught lying. Muhammed enjoyed raping and pillaging. And THIS man is the example? Why not Gahndi?

Having sex does not always imply rape, does it?
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4/29/2016 2:35:55 AM
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At 4/29/2016 2:24:37 AM, uncung wrote:
Were they ever forced to have sex with their masters?

Come on uncung. Can you have sex slaves in a battle on the West or not? Islamic jihadist fascists would rape an infidel with no conscience? Why? Muhammed told them to. For God' s sake, the man raped a toddler, had more wives than he himself said was permissable, and taught lying. Muhammed enjoyed raping and pillaging. And THIS man is the example? Why not Gahndi?

Having sex does not always imply rape, does it?

You're right uncung. These prisoner's of war want to have sex with goat herding bearded, maniacs who have no problem beheading nonmuslims and killing infidel children.
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4/29/2016 2:37:15 AM
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Having sex does not always imply rape, does it?

You're right uncung. These prisoner's of war want to have sex with goat herding bearded, maniacs who have no problem beheading nonmuslims and killing infidel children.

Certainly, I am right.
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4/29/2016 2:44:06 AM
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At 4/29/2016 2:37:15 AM, uncung wrote:
Having sex does not always imply rape, does it?

You're right uncung. These prisoner's of war want to have sex with goat herding bearded, maniacs who have no problem beheading nonmuslims and killing infidel children.

Certainly, I am right.

On which part? That Muhammed had well more wives than he himself said was permissable? And that he had the sexual ability of 20 men? Please. This is a guy who claimed he rode a flying horse with a human face from mosque to mosque and married a 6year old. Muhammed was a Satan worshipper as confessed in his replication of the Hindu goddess Kaali ma who loved to behead and trounce on anything good. This is the Muhammed who set up a graven image for Moslems to bow to, which is idolotry, and claimed he got his revelation from a demon.
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4/29/2016 2:50:17 AM
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At 4/29/2016 2:44:06 AM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 4/29/2016 2:37:15 AM, uncung wrote:
Having sex does not always imply rape, does it?

You're right uncung. These prisoner's of war want to have sex with goat herding bearded, maniacs who have no problem beheading nonmuslims and killing infidel children.

Certainly, I am right.

On which part? That Muhammed had well more wives than he himself said was permissable? And that he had the sexual ability of 20 men? Please. This is a guy who claimed he rode a flying horse with a human face from mosque to mosque and married a 6year old. Muhammed was a Satan worshipper as confessed in his replication of the Hindu goddess Kaali ma who loved to behead and trounce on anything good. This is the Muhammed who set up a graven image for Moslems to bow to, which is idolotry, and claimed he got his revelation from a demon.

- I am right that having sex is not always implying rape
- Having many wives is allowed in all religions and there is no a limit permission.
- Marrying young woman is allowed in all religions as well.
- Ascending to heaven is the prophet miracle.
- The prophet worshiped Allah alone.
- Muslims don't bow before the image.
- Idolatry is not permissible in Islam at all.
- The prophet got the revelation from the God.
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4/29/2016 2:54:25 AM
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At 4/29/2016 2:50:17 AM, uncung wrote:
At 4/29/2016 2:44:06 AM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 4/29/2016 2:37:15 AM, uncung wrote:
Having sex does not always imply rape, does it?

You're right uncung. These prisoner's of war want to have sex with goat herding bearded, maniacs who have no problem beheading nonmuslims and killing infidel children.

Certainly, I am right.

On which part? That Muhammed had well more wives than he himself said was permissable? And that he had the sexual ability of 20 men? Please. This is a guy who claimed he rode a flying horse with a human face from mosque to mosque and married a 6year old. Muhammed was a Satan worshipper as confessed in his replication of the Hindu goddess Kaali ma who loved to behead and trounce on anything good. This is the Muhammed who set up a graven image for Moslems to bow to, which is idolotry, and claimed he got his revelation from a demon.

- I am right that having sex is not always implying rape
- Having many wives is allowed in all religions and there is no a limit permission.
- Marrying young woman is allowed in all religions as well.
- Ascending to heaven is the prophet miracle.
- The prophet worshiped Allah alone.
- Muslims don't bow before the image.
- Idolatry is not permissible in Islam at all.
- The prophet got the revelation from the God.

All religions permit multiple wives? You need a religion lesson uncung. Is it or is it not true that Muhammed had more wives permissable?
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4/29/2016 2:57:15 AM
Posted: 7 months ago
At 4/29/2016 2:54:25 AM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 4/29/2016 2:50:17 AM, uncung wrote:
At 4/29/2016 2:44:06 AM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 4/29/2016 2:37:15 AM, uncung wrote:
Having sex does not always imply rape, does it?

You're right uncung. These prisoner's of war want to have sex with goat herding bearded, maniacs who have no problem beheading nonmuslims and killing infidel children.

Certainly, I am right.

On which part? That Muhammed had well more wives than he himself said was permissable? And that he had the sexual ability of 20 men? Please. This is a guy who claimed he rode a flying horse with a human face from mosque to mosque and married a 6year old. Muhammed was a Satan worshipper as confessed in his replication of the Hindu goddess Kaali ma who loved to behead and trounce on anything good. This is the Muhammed who set up a graven image for Moslems to bow to, which is idolotry, and claimed he got his revelation from a demon.

- I am right that having sex is not always implying rape
- Having many wives is allowed in all religions and there is no a limit permission.
- Marrying young woman is allowed in all religions as well.
- Ascending to heaven is the prophet miracle.
- The prophet worshiped Allah alone.
- Muslims don't bow before the image.
- Idolatry is not permissible in Islam at all.
- The prophet got the revelation from the God.

All religions permit multiple wives? You need a religion lesson uncung. Is it or is it not true that Muhammed had more wives permissable?

Yes, all religion permit having multiple wives.
Yes, Prophet Muhammad also allowed to have many wives. And there is no limitation in it.
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4/29/2016 3:04:41 AM
Posted: 7 months ago
At 4/29/2016 2:54:25 AM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 4/29/2016 2:50:17 AM, uncung wrote:
At 4/29/2016 2:44:06 AM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 4/29/2016 2:37:15 AM, uncung wrote:
Having sex does not always imply rape, does it?

You're right uncung. These prisoner's of war want to have sex with goat herding bearded, maniacs who have no problem beheading nonmuslims and killing infidel children.

Certainly, I am right.

On which part? That Muhammed had well more wives than he himself said was permissable? And that he had the sexual ability of 20 men? Please. This is a guy who claimed he rode a flying horse with a human face from mosque to mosque and married a 6year old. Muhammed was a Satan worshipper as confessed in his replication of the Hindu goddess Kaali ma who loved to behead and trounce on anything good. This is the Muhammed who set up a graven image for Moslems to bow to, which is idolotry, and claimed he got his revelation from a demon.

- I am right that having sex is not always implying rape
- Having many wives is allowed in all religions and there is no a limit permission.
- Marrying young woman is allowed in all religions as well.
- Ascending to heaven is the prophet miracle.
- The prophet worshiped Allah alone.
- Muslims don't bow before the image.
- Idolatry is not permissible in Islam at all.
- The prophet got the revelation from the God.

All religions permit multiple wives? You need a religion lesson uncung. Is it or is it not true that Muhammed had more wives permissable?

u idiot many prophets of the bible had many wives more than Mohamed had. Solamon had 1000 wives, david had 14. in the time of Jesus the jews practiced polygamy never he condemned them for that. nowhere in the bible says u should have only "1 wive" there is no limitation u can have 20000000 at the same time. the Quran says u can have up to 4 but if u cant do justice between them u only allowed to marry 1 wive. u dont know things in this world not the bible or quran go to sleep baboon
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4/29/2016 3:04:53 AM
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At 4/29/2016 2:57:15 AM, uncung wrote:
At 4/29/2016 2:54:25 AM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 4/29/2016 2:50:17 AM, uncung wrote:
At 4/29/2016 2:44:06 AM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 4/29/2016 2:37:15 AM, uncung wrote:
Having sex does not always imply rape, does it?

You're right uncung. These prisoner's of war want to have sex with goat herding bearded, maniacs who have no problem beheading nonmuslims and killing infidel children.

Certainly, I am right.

On which part? That Muhammed had well more wives than he himself said was permissable? And that he had the sexual ability of 20 men? Please. This is a guy who claimed he rode a flying horse with a human face from mosque to mosque and married a 6year old. Muhammed was a Satan worshipper as confessed in his replication of the Hindu goddess Kaali ma who loved to behead and trounce on anything good. This is the Muhammed who set up a graven image for Moslems to bow to, which is idolotry, and claimed he got his revelation from a demon.

- I am right that having sex is not always implying rape
- Having many wives is allowed in all religions and there is no a limit permission.
- Marrying young woman is allowed in all religions as well.
- Ascending to heaven is the prophet miracle.
- The prophet worshiped Allah alone.
- Muslims don't bow before the image.
- Idolatry is not permissible in Islam at all.
- The prophet got the revelation from the God.

All religions permit multiple wives? You need a religion lesson uncung. Is it or is it not true that Muhammed had more wives permissable?

Yes, all religion permit having multiple wives.
Yes, Prophet Muhammad also allowed to have many wives. And there is no limitation in it.

You are lying right now uncung. Trying to slip taqiyya by an ex Moslem is futile uncung. I seethrough you like a window.
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4/29/2016 3:06:24 AM
Posted: 7 months ago
At 4/29/2016 3:04:53 AM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 4/29/2016 2:57:15 AM, uncung wrote:
At 4/29/2016 2:54:25 AM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 4/29/2016 2:50:17 AM, uncung wrote:
At 4/29/2016 2:44:06 AM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 4/29/2016 2:37:15 AM, uncung wrote:
Having sex does not always imply rape, does it?

You're right uncung. These prisoner's of war want to have sex with goat herding bearded, maniacs who have no problem beheading nonmuslims and killing infidel children.

Certainly, I am right.

On which part? That Muhammed had well more wives than he himself said was permissable? And that he had the sexual ability of 20 men? Please. This is a guy who claimed he rode a flying horse with a human face from mosque to mosque and married a 6year old. Muhammed was a Satan worshipper as confessed in his replication of the Hindu goddess Kaali ma who loved to behead and trounce on anything good. This is the Muhammed who set up a graven image for Moslems to bow to, which is idolotry, and claimed he got his revelation from a demon.

- I am right that having sex is not always implying rape
- Having many wives is allowed in all religions and there is no a limit permission.
- Marrying young woman is allowed in all religions as well.
- Ascending to heaven is the prophet miracle.
- The prophet worshiped Allah alone.
- Muslims don't bow before the image.
- Idolatry is not permissible in Islam at all.
- The prophet got the revelation from the God.

All religions permit multiple wives? You need a religion lesson uncung. Is it or is it not true that Muhammed had more wives permissable?

Yes, all religion permit having multiple wives.
Yes, Prophet Muhammad also allowed to have many wives. And there is no limitation in it.

You are lying right now uncung. Trying to slip taqiyya by an ex Moslem is futile uncung. I seethrough you like a window.

sigh.
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4/29/2016 3:17:07 AM
Posted: 7 months ago
At 4/29/2016 3:06:24 AM, uncung wrote:
At 4/29/2016 3:04:53 AM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 4/29/2016 2:57:15 AM, uncung wrote:
At 4/29/2016 2:54:25 AM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 4/29/2016 2:50:17 AM, uncung wrote:
At 4/29/2016 2:44:06 AM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 4/29/2016 2:37:15 AM, uncung wrote:
Having sex does not always imply rape, does it?

You're right uncung. These prisoner's of war want to have sex with goat herding bearded, maniacs who have no problem beheading nonmuslims and killing infidel children.

Certainly, I am right.

On which part? That Muhammed had well more wives than he himself said was permissable? And that he had the sexual ability of 20 men? Please. This is a guy who claimed he rode a flying horse with a human face from mosque to mosque and married a 6year old. Muhammed was a Satan worshipper as confessed in his replication of the Hindu goddess Kaali ma who loved to behead and trounce on anything good. This is the Muhammed who set up a graven image for Moslems to bow to, which is idolotry, and claimed he got his revelation from a demon.

- I am right that having sex is not always implying rape
- Having many wives is allowed in all religions and there is no a limit permission.
- Marrying young woman is allowed in all religions as well.
- Ascending to heaven is the prophet miracle.
- The prophet worshiped Allah alone.
- Muslims don't bow before the image.
- Idolatry is not permissible in Islam at all.
- The prophet got the revelation from the God.

All religions permit multiple wives? You need a religion lesson uncung. Is it or is it not true that Muhammed had more wives permissable?

Yes, all religion permit having multiple wives.
Yes, Prophet Muhammad also allowed to have many wives. And there is no limitation in it.

You are lying right now uncung. Trying to slip taqiyya by an ex Moslem is futile uncung. I seethrough you like a window.

sigh.

You adhere to a man who was evil. Repent while the chance exists.
"What Donald Trump is doing is representing the absolute heartbreak, and anger, and frustration at a government gone mad."

http://youtu.be...
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4/29/2016 3:20:43 AM
Posted: 7 months ago
At 4/29/2016 3:17:07 AM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 4/29/2016 3:06:24 AM, uncung wrote:
At 4/29/2016 3:04:53 AM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 4/29/2016 2:57:15 AM, uncung wrote:
At 4/29/2016 2:54:25 AM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 4/29/2016 2:50:17 AM, uncung wrote:
At 4/29/2016 2:44:06 AM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 4/29/2016 2:37:15 AM, uncung wrote:
Having sex does not always imply rape, does it?

You're right uncung. These prisoner's of war want to have sex with goat herding bearded, maniacs who have no problem beheading nonmuslims and killing infidel children.

Certainly, I am right.

On which part? That Muhammed had well more wives than he himself said was permissable? And that he had the sexual ability of 20 men? Please. This is a guy who claimed he rode a flying horse with a human face from mosque to mosque and married a 6year old. Muhammed was a Satan worshipper as confessed in his replication of the Hindu goddess Kaali ma who loved to behead and trounce on anything good. This is the Muhammed who set up a graven image for Moslems to bow to, which is idolotry, and claimed he got his revelation from a demon.

- I am right that having sex is not always implying rape
- Having many wives is allowed in all religions and there is no a limit permission.
- Marrying young woman is allowed in all religions as well.
- Ascending to heaven is the prophet miracle.
- The prophet worshiped Allah alone.
- Muslims don't bow before the image.
- Idolatry is not permissible in Islam at all.
- The prophet got the revelation from the God.

All religions permit multiple wives? You need a religion lesson uncung. Is it or is it not true that Muhammed had more wives permissable?

Yes, all religion permit having multiple wives.
Yes, Prophet Muhammad also allowed to have many wives. And there is no limitation in it.

You are lying right now uncung. Trying to slip taqiyya by an ex Moslem is futile uncung. I seethrough you like a window.

sigh.

You adhere to a man who was evil. Repent while the chance exists.

Did he commit an evil thing?
Why should I repent? what about you have you repented?
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4/29/2016 3:23:39 AM
Posted: 7 months ago
At 4/29/2016 3:20:43 AM, uncung wrote:
At 4/29/2016 3:17:07 AM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 4/29/2016 3:06:24 AM, uncung wrote:
At 4/29/2016 3:04:53 AM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 4/29/2016 2:57:15 AM, uncung wrote:
At 4/29/2016 2:54:25 AM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 4/29/2016 2:50:17 AM, uncung wrote:
At 4/29/2016 2:44:06 AM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 4/29/2016 2:37:15 AM, uncung wrote:
Having sex does not always imply rape, does it?

You're right uncung. These prisoner's of war want to have sex with goat herding bearded, maniacs who have no problem beheading nonmuslims and killing infidel children.

Certainly, I am right.

On which part? That Muhammed had well more wives than he himself said was permissable? And that he had the sexual ability of 20 men? Please. This is a guy who claimed he rode a flying horse with a human face from mosque to mosque and married a 6year old. Muhammed was a Satan worshipper as confessed in his replication of the Hindu goddess Kaali ma who loved to behead and trounce on anything good. This is the Muhammed who set up a graven image for Moslems to bow to, which is idolotry, and claimed he got his revelation from a demon.

- I am right that having sex is not always implying rape
- Having many wives is allowed in all religions and there is no a limit permission.
- Marrying young woman is allowed in all religions as well.
- Ascending to heaven is the prophet miracle.
- The prophet worshiped Allah alone.
- Muslims don't bow before the image.
- Idolatry is not permissible in Islam at all.
- The prophet got the revelation from the God.

All religions permit multiple wives? You need a religion lesson uncung. Is it or is it not true that Muhammed had more wives permissable?

Yes, all religion permit having multiple wives.
Yes, Prophet Muhammad also allowed to have many wives. And there is no limitation in it.

You are lying right now uncung. Trying to slip taqiyya by an ex Moslem is futile uncung. I seethrough you like a window.

sigh.

You adhere to a man who was evil. Repent while the chance exists.

Did he commit an evil thing?
Why should I repent? what about you have you repented?

I don't have to repent from things I haven't done. I'm amazingly yet to behead or rape a single person. Hard to believe eh?
"What Donald Trump is doing is representing the absolute heartbreak, and anger, and frustration at a government gone mad."

http://youtu.be...
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4/29/2016 3:26:03 AM
Posted: 7 months ago
You adhere to a man who was evil. Repent while the chance exists.

Did he commit an evil thing?
Why should I repent? what about you have you repented?

I don't have to repent from things I haven't done. I'm amazingly yet to behead or rape a single person. Hard to believe eh?

But what things I have done thereby I have to repent?
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4/29/2016 7:19:03 AM
Posted: 7 months ago
At 4/29/2016 1:40:18 AM, uncung wrote:
At 4/28/2016 7:58:03 AM, Looncall wrote:
At 4/28/2016 1:09:29 AM, uncung wrote:
At 4/28/2016 12:48:27 AM, Looncall wrote:
At 4/28/2016 12:15:32 AM, uncung wrote:
I don't see any "rape" word be mentioned in those passages.

When you imprison someone against their will and use them as a sex slave, every time you engage in sexual intercourse it is rape. Do you disagree?

Having sex is not always implying raping, is it?

Sex without consent is rape. A slave is unlikely to consent to forced sex.

The slaves already knew well their role in the society, they knew they may have sex with their masters.

They knew they would be forced to have sex. Still rape.

I find it unsettling that you seem comfortable with the ideas of slavery and forced sex. I guess it follows from the muslim view of women as livestock.

Were they ever forced to have sex with their masters?

Of course. You could ask the girls ISIS and Boko Haram have forced into sex slavery.

Muslims have kept concubines: slaves used for sex.

The whole point of slavery is having no choice about what you do. It is an unspeakable evil.
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4/29/2016 11:59:57 AM
Posted: 7 months ago
Were they ever forced to have sex with their masters?

Of course. You could ask the girls ISIS and Boko Haram have forced into sex slavery.

Muslims have kept concubines: slaves used for sex.

The whole point of slavery is having no choice about what you do. It is an unspeakable evil.

Do ISIS and Boko Haram force the girls to have sex with them?