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4/30/2016 10:33:46 AM
Posted: 7 months ago
\\ 1 Is atheism a strong belief?

\\ 2 Are atheists more likely to have atheist children?

\\ 3 Does this 'lack of belief in God' thing has inspired anything?

\\ 4 Is it compatible with morality?

\\ 5 Does atheism fill you with positivity and hope?

\\ 6 Do atheists practice yoga?

\\ 7 Can anything convince atheists that God exists?
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4/30/2016 1:39:04 PM
Posted: 7 months ago
At 4/30/2016 10:33:46 AM, trunkflOW wrote:
\\ 1 Is atheism a strong belief?

Depends on how you want to look at it. No, in as much as its no belief in God, yes, in as much as some proclaim God cannot exist.

\\ 2 Are atheists more likely to have atheist children?

Probably.

\\ 3 Does this 'lack of belief in God' thing has inspired anything?

Sure.

\\ 4 Is it compatible with morality?

Yes.

\\ 5 Does atheism fill you with positivity and hope?

Not specifically.

\\ 6 Do atheists practice yoga?

I would assume a few might, sure.

\\ 7 Can anything convince atheists that God exists?

Sure.

Now, the point, please.
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4/30/2016 1:45:28 PM
Posted: 7 months ago
At 4/30/2016 10:33:46 AM, trunkflOW wrote:
\\ 1 Is atheism a strong belief?

It's a lack of belief

\\ 2 Are atheists more likely to have atheist children?

Not really.

\\ 3 Does this 'lack of belief in God' thing has inspired anything?

Honesty, integrity, respect, intelligence, morality, ...the list goes on and on.

\\ 4 Is it compatible with morality?

Morality is inspired by it.

\\ 5 Does atheism fill you with positivity and hope?

Nope. That comes from what atheism inspires.

\\ 6 Do atheists practice yoga?

Sure.

\\ 7 Can anything convince atheists that God exists?

Yes, God.
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4/30/2016 2:05:03 PM
Posted: 7 months ago
At 4/30/2016 10:33:46 AM, trunkflOW wrote:
\\ 1 Is atheism a strong belief?

\\ 2 Are atheists more likely to have atheist children?

\\ 3 Does this 'lack of belief in God' thing has inspired anything?

\\ 4 Is it compatible with morality?

\\ 5 Does atheism fill you with positivity and hope?

\\ 6 Do atheists practice yoga?

\\ 7 Can anything convince atheists that God exists?

Define atheism
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4/30/2016 2:29:01 PM
Posted: 7 months ago
At 4/30/2016 10:33:46 AM, trunkflOW wrote:
\\ 1 Is atheism a strong belief?

It probably has the same strength of belief that most non-Mormons have regarding Mormonism.

\\ 2 Are atheists more likely to have atheist children?

I don't tell my kids what to think but I do teach them how to use critical thought, logic and reason. For that reason, I assume they would be less likely to be religious.

\\ 3 Does this 'lack of belief in God' thing has inspired anything?

It gives one permission to think critically.

\\ 4 Is it compatible with morality?

Not only is it compatible, it doesn't suffer for the same kind of moral confusion that religion produces.

\\ 5 Does atheism fill you with positivity and hope?

I suppose believing in Santa Claus can cause an increase in positivity and hope in small children but false beliefs also come at a price.

\\ 6 Do atheists practice yoga?

I do.

\\ 7 Can anything convince atheists that God exists?

Absolutely. If there was a God that could interact with the physical world and it could be proven, that would be convincing. There is no reason to believe this would happen however. If God took you to the Mormon planet Kolob, wouldnt you believe in Mormonism?
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4/30/2016 2:29:15 PM
Posted: 7 months ago
At 4/30/2016 10:33:46 AM, trunkflOW wrote:
\\ 1 Is atheism a strong belief?
It's not a belief
\\ 2 Are atheists more likely to have atheist children?
They are less likely to have theist children
\\ 3 Does this 'lack of belief in God' thing has inspired anything?
The desire to think for oneself
\\ 4 Is it compatible with morality?
Yes. The theist position is immoral
\\ 5 Does atheism fill you with positivity and hope?
Yes. We can control our lives
\\ 6 Do atheists practice yoga?
I don't. I suppose some do
\\ 7 Can anything convince atheists that God exists?
Proof of god. There is none atm.
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4/30/2016 3:38:34 PM
Posted: 7 months ago
At 4/30/2016 10:33:46 AM, trunkflOW wrote:
\\ 1 Is atheism a strong belief?

No, it is a lack of belief in a god. There are atheists who strongly believe that there is no god. This belief fits into atheism, but that does not make it atheism.

\\ 2 Are atheists more likely to have atheist children?

Yes. Theism thrives only because of indoctrination. If you take that away you would see a significant decrease in the theistic population.

\\ 3 Does this 'lack of belief in God' thing has inspired anything?

The question doesn't make sense. Inspiration comes from what you do believe, not what you don't.

\\ 4 Is it compatible with morality?

Of course it is, but that depends on what you think morality is. We don't need a God to determine whether something is good or bad, unless you are defining good as "that which is in accordance with Gods will".

\\ 5 Does atheism fill you with positivity and hope?

Same answer as question 3.

\\ 6 Do atheists practice yoga?

Some do. What does yoga have to do with anything?

\\ 7 Can anything convince atheists that God exists?

Every atheist is different. If you are asking me this question then that depends on what you are calling God.

If you are defining him as a timeless entity that exists outside of our physical universe then the answer is no. I am a temporal physical being confined to a temporal physical universe, thus my senses are limited to perceiving the physical in a temporal sense. Until you can explain to me how a temporal physical perception can logically infer a non-temporal non-physical existence, I see no reason to believe that this is possible.
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4/30/2016 4:35:12 PM
Posted: 7 months ago
At 4/30/2016 10:33:46 AM, trunkflOW wrote:
\\ 1 Is atheism a strong belief?

For some it is, and for others it isn't.

\\ 2 Are atheists more likely to have atheist children?

Yes,

\\ 3 Does this 'lack of belief in God' thing has inspired anything?

Not much. People who are secular tend to be more liberal and support socialist programs, education, and science.

\\ 4 Is it compatible with morality?

Partially, morality has to be reasoned for an atheist. We don't actually have any strong evidence morality exists and that includes religious morality. Its just blind faith and fallacious arguments behind religious's people belief in morality. Some atheists have blind faith in humanism themselves.

Religions have commanded some pretty harmful things. Judeo-Christianity has some pretty nasty things in the bible like male chauvinism, homophobia, slavery, genocide, generational punishment, extreme pacifism, blood sacrifice, class warfare, oppressive theocracy, and much more.

\\ 5 Does atheism fill you with positivity and hope?

No, its neutral. Just like the theory of gravity and most other beliefs about the universe.

\\ 6 Do atheists practice yoga?

Yes some do.

\\ 7 Can anything convince atheists that God exists?

Of course, we are rational people.
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5/1/2016 3:47:10 AM
Posted: 7 months ago
At 4/30/2016 10:33:46 AM, trunkflOW wrote:
\\ 1 Is atheism a strong belief?

\\ 2 Are atheists more likely to have atheist children?

\\ 3 Does this 'lack of belief in God' thing has inspired anything?

\\ 4 Is it compatible with morality?

\\ 5 Does atheism fill you with positivity and hope?

\\ 6 Do atheists practice yoga?

\\ 7 Can anything convince atheists that God exists?

Atheists already believe in God. That's why they are here in the religious forum.
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5/1/2016 8:21:43 AM
Posted: 7 months ago
At 4/30/2016 10:33:46 AM, trunkflOW wrote:
1 Is atheism a strong belief?
It can be, in the sense of being a conviction.

2 Are atheists more likely to have atheist children?
Yes, children of irreligious parents are more likely to be irreligious, just as children of religious parents are more likely to inherit their parents' faith. Over all, the rate of inheriting faith or irreligion is around 60-70% in pluralist countries.

3 Does this 'lack of belief in God' thing has inspired anything?
Perhaps. The children of atheists tend to be more altruistic and tolerant than the kids of religious parents . [http://www.theguardian.com...](Primary source: [http://www.cell.com...]) Also, atheists tend to know more about religion than many religious. [http://www.pewforum.org...] So either atheism is creating a lot of wisdom, kindness and tolerance; or wisdom, kindness and tolerance are creating atheism; or something else (perhaps secular education, the rule of law and good critical thought?) is creating both.

\\ 4 Is it compatible with morality?
Yes, to the extent that morality centres on an understanding and respect for human worth and dignity, many atheists have written extensively on just such issues.

\\ 5 Does atheism fill you with positivity and hope?
I would say that the knowledge and thought I've filled my life with has. I believe I'm happier, kinder, more knowledgeable and more respectful than many people of faith.

\\ 6 Do atheists practice yoga?
Some do, but I don't care for it.

\\ 7 Can anything convince atheists that God exists?
For some, but not in my case. I believe the proposition is epistemologically invalid, insupportable by any evidence, and therefore unworthy of serious consideration, even as a conjecture.
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5/1/2016 9:51:55 AM
Posted: 7 months ago
At 4/30/2016 10:33:46 AM, trunkflOW wrote:
\\ 1 Is atheism a strong belief?

I'm more of agnostic so I'm quite open. Nothing has been convincing so far though.

\\ 2 Are atheists more likely to have atheist children?

Children generally like to not be like their parents, so I don't really know.

\\ 3 Does this 'lack of belief in God' thing has inspired anything?

Search for knowledge perhaps, since it isn't in my hand already.

\\ 4 Is it compatible with morality?

Naturally. For example, is a belief in god required for understanding how rape will leave the victim and their closest to innocently suffer for lifetime? Of course not.

\\ 5 Does atheism fill you with positivity and hope?

The feeling of "up to us to find the truth" is somewhat hopeful.

\\ 6 Do atheists practice yoga?

Some do. Its health benefits has nothing to do with religion, and could easily be explained by science.

\\ 7 Can anything convince atheists that God exists?

A clear entrance to Earth would do it. Yes, it allegedly happened in the Bible, but that is unconfirmed hearsay, and I need to see it with my eyes. A little like conspiracy theories of Freemasons eating children, isn't it?
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5/1/2016 2:36:20 PM
Posted: 7 months ago
At 5/1/2016 9:51:55 AM, Jovian wrote:
At 4/30/2016 10:33:46 AM, trunkflOW wrote:
\\ 1 Is atheism a strong belief?

I'm more of agnostic so I'm quite open. Nothing has been convincing so far though.

\\ 2 Are atheists more likely to have atheist children?

Children generally like to not be like their parents, so I don't really know.

\\ 3 Does this 'lack of belief in God' thing has inspired anything?

Search for knowledge perhaps, since it isn't in my hand already.

\\ 4 Is it compatible with morality?

Naturally. For example, is a belief in god required for understanding how rape will leave the victim and their closest to innocently suffer for lifetime? Of course not.

\\ 5 Does atheism fill you with positivity and hope?

The feeling of "up to us to find the truth" is somewhat hopeful.

\\ 6 Do atheists practice yoga?

Some do. Its health benefits has nothing to do with religion, and could easily be explained by science.

I agree, there is nothing called 'Hinduism'.

\\ 7 Can anything convince atheists that God exists?

A clear entrance to Earth would do it. Yes, it allegedly happened in the Bible, but that is unconfirmed hearsay, and I need to see it with my eyes. A little like conspiracy theories of Freemasons eating children, isn't it?
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5/1/2016 3:08:05 PM
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At 5/1/2016 3:47:10 AM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 4/30/2016 10:33:46 AM, trunkflOW wrote:
\\ 1 Is atheism a strong belief?

\\ 2 Are atheists more likely to have atheist children?

\\ 3 Does this 'lack of belief in God' thing has inspired anything?

\\ 4 Is it compatible with morality?

\\ 5 Does atheism fill you with positivity and hope?

\\ 6 Do atheists practice yoga?

\\ 7 Can anything convince atheists that God exists?

Atheists already believe in God. That's why they are here in the religious forum.

"Atheists believe in God"

This is the kind of thing a religious person would say; along with thinking atheists have their own religion. They will argue with an atheist about what the atheist believes. They reject dictionary definitions and claim their made up definitions are the right ones. These are examples, among many, of why religion contributes to the dumbing down of the world.
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5/1/2016 6:01:56 PM
Posted: 7 months ago
At 4/30/2016 10:33:46 AM, trunkflOW wrote:
\\ 1 Is atheism a strong belief?

It isn't a belief in the way you believe in God; it is a belief in the way you would believe that Donald trump wouldn't make a good president, or you believe your wife is being faithful. It's important not to confuse the two uses of the word.

\\ 2 Are atheists more likely to have atheist children?

I suspect so.

\\ 3 Does this 'lack of belief in God' thing has inspired anything?

It's difficult to tell. Many atheists are empiric rationalists; and it's hard to tell which is an inspiration.

In reality, for me it has an influence in my decisions in the same way that if stuck on a desert island, being the one solely in control of your destiny will cause you to make drastically different decisions than if operate under the assumption that someone will come rescue you soon.

\\ 4 Is it compatible with morality?

Yes; probably more so than having a religion. In religion you effectively told what is right and wrong. Without God, there is a big part of you that is forced to actually figure out what is right or wrong.

\\ 5 Does atheism fill you with positivity and hope?

No. But don't take that the wrong way. Atheism no more fills me with positivity and hope than understanding how a nuclear reactor works fills me with positivity or hope. It's not that type of belief.

What fills me with positivity and hope, is knowing that I have the ability to make my life better tomorrow, next week, or next year; that I could well be happier tomorrow, next week or next year than I am today, and that I have the ability to make the world a better place if I chose to do so. That we, as a species, could survive and continue to advance socially, politically and technologically; and while we may not solve the problems of today in my life time, history has generally shown that we tend to solve problems in the longer term.

If you need religion to give you positivity and hope, there is something deeply wrong with your life.

\\ 6 Do atheists practice yoga?

I don't. Some do.

\\ 7 Can anything convince atheists that God exists?

I can't speak for other Atheists, but for me, certainly. For me, it is CRUCIAL to always accept the possibility that you may be wrong (however unlikely), and be absolutely clear how you can determine or tell that you are wrong. If you don't know what being wrong looks like, there is literally no way to tell if you are.
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5/1/2016 6:06:03 PM
Posted: 7 months ago
At 5/1/2016 3:47:10 AM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 4/30/2016 10:33:46 AM, trunkflOW wrote:
\\ 1 Is atheism a strong belief?

\\ 2 Are atheists more likely to have atheist children?

\\ 3 Does this 'lack of belief in God' thing has inspired anything?

\\ 4 Is it compatible with morality?

\\ 5 Does atheism fill you with positivity and hope?

\\ 6 Do atheists practice yoga?

\\ 7 Can anything convince atheists that God exists?

Atheists already believe in God. That's why they are here in the religious forum.

Oh, it's Bronto, speaking Brontish instead of English.
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5/1/2016 6:48:35 PM
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At 5/1/2016 2:36:20 PM, Riwaaz_Ras wrote:
At 5/1/2016 9:51:55 AM, Jovian wrote:
At 4/30/2016 10:33:46 AM, trunkflOW wrote:
\\ 1 Is atheism a strong belief?

I'm more of agnostic so I'm quite open. Nothing has been convincing so far though.

\\ 2 Are atheists more likely to have atheist children?

Children generally like to not be like their parents, so I don't really know.

\\ 3 Does this 'lack of belief in God' thing has inspired anything?

Search for knowledge perhaps, since it isn't in my hand already.

\\ 4 Is it compatible with morality?

Naturally. For example, is a belief in god required for understanding how rape will leave the victim and their closest to innocently suffer for lifetime? Of course not.

\\ 5 Does atheism fill you with positivity and hope?

The feeling of "up to us to find the truth" is somewhat hopeful.

\\ 6 Do atheists practice yoga?

Some do. Its health benefits has nothing to do with religion, and could easily be explained by science.

I agree, there is nothing called 'Hinduism'.

People adhering to the that religion were the ones who discovered it, but its health benefits could be explained by human biology and not any kind of spiritualism. Just like buddhism and meditation. Or any religion and praying.


\\ 7 Can anything convince atheists that God exists?

A clear entrance to Earth would do it. Yes, it allegedly happened in the Bible, but that is unconfirmed hearsay, and I need to see it with my eyes. A little like conspiracy theories of Freemasons eating children, isn't it?
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5/1/2016 7:23:36 PM
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At 4/30/2016 10:33:46 AM, trunkflOW wrote:
\\ 1 Is atheism a strong belief?


Depends on what you ascribe to "strong" and depends upon the atheist.

\\ 2 Are atheists more likely to have atheist children?


I'm not aware of any scientific study on the matter.

\\ 3 Does this 'lack of belief in God' thing has inspired anything?


Sure.

Just of the top off my head, I can point to the charity work both Richard Dawkins and the Late Hitchens were involved. In 2012, Dawkins encouraged atheists to raise $1,000,000 for the Leukemia & Lymphoma Society. I can also name a number of comedians whose atheism is part of their routine.

\\ 4 Is it compatible with morality?


Yes, it can be. Depends on the individual.
It's Christianity which is incompatible with decent morals.

\\ 5 Does atheism fill you with positivity and hope?


I am naturally hopeful and upbeat.

\\ 6 Do atheists practice yoga?


Some might.

\\ 7 Can anything convince atheists that God exists?

Evidence.
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5/1/2016 7:50:39 PM
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At 5/1/2016 6:01:56 PM, Ramshutu wrote:
At 4/30/2016 10:33:46 AM, trunkflOW wrote:
\\ 1 Is atheism a strong belief?

It isn't a belief in the way you believe in God; it is a belief in the way you would believe that Donald trump wouldn't make a good president, or you believe your wife is being faithful. It's important not to confuse the two uses of the word.

\\ 2 Are atheists more likely to have atheist children?

I suspect so.

\\ 3 Does this 'lack of belief in God' thing has inspired anything?

It's difficult to tell. Many atheists are empiric rationalists; and it's hard to tell which is an inspiration.

In reality, for me it has an influence in my decisions in the same way that if stuck on a desert island, being the one solely in control of your destiny will cause you to make drastically different decisions than if operate under the assumption that someone will come rescue you soon.

\\ 4 Is it compatible with morality?

Yes; probably more so than having a religion. In religion you effectively told what is right and wrong. Without God, there is a big part of you that is forced to actually figure out what is right or wrong.

\\ 5 Does atheism fill you with positivity and hope?

No. But don't take that the wrong way. Atheism no more fills me with positivity and hope than understanding how a nuclear reactor works fills me with positivity or hope. It's not that type of belief.

What fills me with positivity and hope, is knowing that I have the ability to make my life better tomorrow, next week, or next year; that I could well be happier tomorrow, next week or next year than I am today, and that I have the ability to make the world a better place if I chose to do so. That we, as a species, could survive and continue to advance socially, politically and technologically; and while we may not solve the problems of today in my life time, history has generally shown that we tend to solve problems in the longer term.

If you need religion to give you positivity and hope, there is something deeply wrong with your life.

\\ 6 Do atheists practice yoga?

I don't. Some do.

\\ 7 Can anything convince atheists that God exists?

I can't speak for other Atheists, but for me, certainly. For me, it is CRUCIAL to always accept the possibility that you may be wrong (however unlikely), and be absolutely clear how you can determine or tell that you are wrong. If you don't know what being wrong looks like, there is literally no way to tell if you are.

Well said.
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5/1/2016 9:53:15 PM
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At 5/1/2016 3:08:05 PM, matt8800 wrote:
At 5/1/2016 3:47:10 AM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 4/30/2016 10:33:46 AM, trunkflOW wrote:
\\ 1 Is atheism a strong belief?

\\ 2 Are atheists more likely to have atheist children?

\\ 3 Does this 'lack of belief in God' thing has inspired anything?

\\ 4 Is it compatible with morality?

\\ 5 Does atheism fill you with positivity and hope?

\\ 6 Do atheists practice yoga?

\\ 7 Can anything convince atheists that God exists?

Atheists already believe in God. That's why they are here in the religious forum.

"Atheists believe in God"

This is the kind of thing a religious person would say; along with thinking atheists have their own religion. They will argue with an atheist about what the atheist believes. They reject dictionary definitions and claim their made up definitions are the right ones. These are examples, among many, of why religion contributes to the dumbing down of the world.

Not really. When a theory is unproven and has skeptics from all phases of science, and yet is taught to ourchildren as fact, THAT is the dumbing down of society. Just believe it despite no observation of it, no change in kind ever seen, unmeasurable, and untestable...why? The militant atheist Richard Dawkins said so.
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5/1/2016 9:56:46 PM
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Atheism is the religion that has dumbed down the world. Look around. This the dumbest, most spoiled, least intellectual group that America has ever brought forth. They are forced to bring in foreigners to do anything complicated now in science. This generation of new atheism has been taught to never think or imsgine forces bigger than us and outside of our domain. This is intellectual suicide.
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5/1/2016 10:00:23 PM
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At 5/1/2016 9:53:15 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 5/1/2016 3:08:05 PM, matt8800 wrote:
At 5/1/2016 3:47:10 AM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 4/30/2016 10:33:46 AM, trunkflOW wrote:
\\ 1 Is atheism a strong belief?

\\ 2 Are atheists more likely to have atheist children?

\\ 3 Does this 'lack of belief in God' thing has inspired anything?

\\ 4 Is it compatible with morality?

\\ 5 Does atheism fill you with positivity and hope?

\\ 6 Do atheists practice yoga?

\\ 7 Can anything convince atheists that God exists?

Atheists already believe in God. That's why they are here in the religious forum.

"Atheists believe in God"

This is the kind of thing a religious person would say; along with thinking atheists have their own religion. They will argue with an atheist about what the atheist believes. They reject dictionary definitions and claim their made up definitions are the right ones. These are examples, among many, of why religion contributes to the dumbing down of the world.

Not really. When a theory is unproven and has skeptics from all phases of science, and yet is taught to ourchildren as fact, THAT is the dumbing down of society. Just believe it despite no observation of it, no change in kind ever seen, unmeasurable, and untestable...why? The militant atheist Richard Dawkins said so.

Can't define "kind" Check.
Can't provide citation. Check.
Thinks Evolution cannot be tested. Check.
Thinks it has no metrics. Check.

Buffoonish ignorance form someone who tests the limits of gullibility by claiming he has studied Evolution for 30 years.
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5/1/2016 10:45:12 PM
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At 5/1/2016 10:00:23 PM, Athomos wrote:
At 5/1/2016 9:53:15 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 5/1/2016 3:08:05 PM, matt8800 wrote:
At 5/1/2016 3:47:10 AM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 4/30/2016 10:33:46 AM, trunkflOW wrote:
\\ 1 Is atheism a strong belief?

\\ 2 Are atheists more likely to have atheist children?

\\ 3 Does this 'lack of belief in God' thing has inspired anything?

\\ 4 Is it compatible with morality?

\\ 5 Does atheism fill you with positivity and hope?

\\ 6 Do atheists practice yoga?

\\ 7 Can anything convince atheists that God exists?

Atheists already believe in God. That's why they are here in the religious forum.

"Atheists believe in God"

This is the kind of thing a religious person would say; along with thinking atheists have their own religion. They will argue with an atheist about what the atheist believes. They reject dictionary definitions and claim their made up definitions are the right ones. These are examples, among many, of why religion contributes to the dumbing down of the world.

Not really. When a theory is unproven and has skeptics from all phases of science, and yet is taught to ourchildren as fact, THAT is the dumbing down of society. Just believe it despite no observation of it, no change in kind ever seen, unmeasurable, and untestable...why? The militant atheist Richard Dawkins said so.


Can't define "kind" Check.
Can't provide citation. Check.
Thinks Evolution cannot be tested. Check.
Thinks it has no metrics. Check.

Buffoonish ignorance form someone who tests the limits of gullibility by claiming he has studied Evolution for 30 years.

How could I not? They were cramming the nonsense down our throats from youth. Then I found out the truth.
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5/1/2016 10:49:08 PM
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At 5/1/2016 10:00:23 PM, Athomos wrote:
At 5/1/2016 9:53:15 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 5/1/2016 3:08:05 PM, matt8800 wrote:
At 5/1/2016 3:47:10 AM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 4/30/2016 10:33:46 AM, trunkflOW wrote:
\\ 1 Is atheism a strong belief?

\\ 2 Are atheists more likely to have atheist children?

\\ 3 Does this 'lack of belief in God' thing has inspired anything?

\\ 4 Is it compatible with morality?

\\ 5 Does atheism fill you with positivity and hope?

\\ 6 Do atheists practice yoga?

\\ 7 Can anything convince atheists that God exists?

Atheists already believe in God. That's why they are here in the religious forum.

"Atheists believe in God"

This is the kind of thing a religious person would say; along with thinking atheists have their own religion. They will argue with an atheist about what the atheist believes. They reject dictionary definitions and claim their made up definitions are the right ones. These are examples, among many, of why religion contributes to the dumbing down of the world.

Not really. When a theory is unproven and has skeptics from all phases of science, and yet is taught to ourchildren as fact, THAT is the dumbing down of society. Just believe it despite no observation of it, no change in kind ever seen, unmeasurable, and untestable...why? The militant atheist Richard Dawkins said so.


Can't define "kind" Check.
Can't provide citation. Check.
Thinks Evolution cannot be tested. Check.
Thinks it has no metrics. Check.

Buffoonish ignorance form someone who tests the limits of gullibility by claiming he has studied Evolution for 30 years.

You wanted me to use the term "species", but I refused because I know what comes next. A manipulating of the term "species".
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5/1/2016 10:56:33 PM
Posted: 7 months ago
At 5/1/2016 10:49:08 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 5/1/2016 10:00:23 PM, Athomos wrote:
At 5/1/2016 9:53:15 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 5/1/2016 3:08:05 PM, matt8800 wrote:
At 5/1/2016 3:47:10 AM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 4/30/2016 10:33:46 AM, trunkflOW wrote:
\\ 1 Is atheism a strong belief?

\\ 2 Are atheists more likely to have atheist children?

\\ 3 Does this 'lack of belief in God' thing has inspired anything?

\\ 4 Is it compatible with morality?

\\ 5 Does atheism fill you with positivity and hope?

\\ 6 Do atheists practice yoga?

\\ 7 Can anything convince atheists that God exists?

Atheists already believe in God. That's why they are here in the religious forum.

"Atheists believe in God"

This is the kind of thing a religious person would say; along with thinking atheists have their own religion. They will argue with an atheist about what the atheist believes. They reject dictionary definitions and claim their made up definitions are the right ones. These are examples, among many, of why religion contributes to the dumbing down of the world.

Not really. When a theory is unproven and has skeptics from all phases of science, and yet is taught to ourchildren as fact, THAT is the dumbing down of society. Just believe it despite no observation of it, no change in kind ever seen, unmeasurable, and untestable...why? The militant atheist Richard Dawkins said so.


Can't define "kind" Check.
Can't provide citation. Check.
Thinks Evolution cannot be tested. Check.
Thinks it has no metrics. Check.

Buffoonish ignorance form someone who tests the limits of gullibility by claiming he has studied Evolution for 30 years.

You wanted me to use the term "species", but I refused because I know what comes next. A manipulating of the term "species".

Wrong.
I want you to define kind.

You cannot, even if you were held at point blank range. That you've been spewing creationist drivel for years now and have been asked many times to define it and you can't for the life of you even answer this straightforward basic question, that's the most revealing truth emerging out of your posts.

"Species" already has a precise scientific definition.
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5/2/2016 12:57:58 AM
Posted: 7 months ago
At 4/30/2016 10:33:46 AM, trunkflOW wrote:
\\ 1 Is atheism a strong belief?
Its a disbelief in religion (Like how not knitting isn't a hobby)

\\ 2 Are atheists more likely to have atheist children?
Most likely (Just like how Christians are more likely to have Christian children)

\\ 3 Does this 'lack of belief in God' thing has inspired anything?
Its not meant to, its a factual logical way to view the world.

\\ 4 Is it compatible with morality?
If you need religion to be moral, then that is concerning.

\\ 5 Does atheism fill you with positivity and hope?
Again, not meant to. It doesn't, but doesn't do the latter

\\ 6 Do atheists practice yoga?
Some probably do.

\\ 7 Can anything convince atheists that God exists?

Verifiable evidence
Meh!
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5/2/2016 1:55:53 AM
Posted: 7 months ago
At 5/1/2016 10:56:33 PM, Athomos wrote:
At 5/1/2016 10:49:08 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 5/1/2016 10:00:23 PM, Athomos wrote:
At 5/1/2016 9:53:15 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 5/1/2016 3:08:05 PM, matt8800 wrote:
At 5/1/2016 3:47:10 AM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 4/30/2016 10:33:46 AM, trunkflOW wrote:
\\ 1 Is atheism a strong belief?

\\ 2 Are atheists more likely to have atheist children?

\\ 3 Does this 'lack of belief in God' thing has inspired anything?

\\ 4 Is it compatible with morality?

\\ 5 Does atheism fill you with positivity and hope?

\\ 6 Do atheists practice yoga?

\\ 7 Can anything convince atheists that God exists?

Atheists already believe in God. That's why they are here in the religious forum.

"Atheists believe in God"

This is the kind of thing a religious person would say; along with thinking atheists have their own religion. They will argue with an atheist about what the atheist believes. They reject dictionary definitions and claim their made up definitions are the right ones. These are examples, among many, of why religion contributes to the dumbing down of the world.

Not really. When a theory is unproven and has skeptics from all phases of science, and yet is taught to ourchildren as fact, THAT is the dumbing down of society. Just believe it despite no observation of it, no change in kind ever seen, unmeasurable, and untestable...why? The militant atheist Richard Dawkins said so.


Can't define "kind" Check.
Can't provide citation. Check.
Thinks Evolution cannot be tested. Check.
Thinks it has no metrics. Check.

Buffoonish ignorance form someone who tests the limits of gullibility by claiming he has studied Evolution for 30 years.

You wanted me to use the term "species", but I refused because I know what comes next. A manipulating of the term "species".

Wrong.
I want you to define kind.

You cannot, even if you were held at point blank range. That you've been spewing creationist drivel for years now and have been asked many times to define it and you can't for the life of you even answer this straightforward basic question, that's the most revealing truth emerging out of your posts.

"Species" already has a precise scientific definition.

Sure I can.
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5/2/2016 2:01:54 AM
Posted: 7 months ago
a group of creatures having similar characteristics.

Imagine a circle. Inside this circle are many variations. You can begat anything that fits into the characteristics of the circle. You could get a billion different variations of the kind, but what you will never get is a completely different kind. You will not get flippers from the bird kind. You might get all variations of birds. You never get a bird with fins and a fluked tail.

Example? Bacteria. We have seen all kinds of "strands", but this is simply variation..sure, the fittest survive, but this doesn't jump out of the circle of possible variation. You still have? Bacteria.

Show us an example of bacteria becoming anything other than bacteria.
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5/2/2016 3:50:48 AM
Posted: 7 months ago
At 5/1/2016 10:45:12 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 5/1/2016 10:00:23 PM, Athomos wrote:
At 5/1/2016 9:53:15 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 5/1/2016 3:08:05 PM, matt8800 wrote:
At 5/1/2016 3:47:10 AM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 4/30/2016 10:33:46 AM, trunkflOW wrote:
\\ 1 Is atheism a strong belief?

\\ 2 Are atheists more likely to have atheist children?

\\ 3 Does this 'lack of belief in God' thing has inspired anything?

\\ 4 Is it compatible with morality?

\\ 5 Does atheism fill you with positivity and hope?

\\ 6 Do atheists practice yoga?

\\ 7 Can anything convince atheists that God exists?

Atheists already believe in God. That's why they are here in the religious forum.

"Atheists believe in God"

This is the kind of thing a religious person would say; along with thinking atheists have their own religion. They will argue with an atheist about what the atheist believes. They reject dictionary definitions and claim their made up definitions are the right ones. These are examples, among many, of why religion contributes to the dumbing down of the world.

Not really. When a theory is unproven and has skeptics from all phases of science, and yet is taught to ourchildren as fact, THAT is the dumbing down of society. Just believe it despite no observation of it, no change in kind ever seen, unmeasurable, and untestable...why? The militant atheist Richard Dawkins said so.


Can't define "kind" Check.
Can't provide citation. Check.
Thinks Evolution cannot be tested. Check.
Thinks it has no metrics. Check.

Buffoonish ignorance form someone who tests the limits of gullibility by claiming he has studied Evolution for 30 years.

How could I not? They were cramming the nonsense down our throats from youth. Then I found out the truth.

30 years? Is that how long it took you to get through high school?
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5/2/2016 4:27:35 AM
Posted: 7 months ago
At 5/1/2016 9:53:15 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 5/1/2016 3:08:05 PM, matt8800 wrote:
At 5/1/2016 3:47:10 AM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 4/30/2016 10:33:46 AM, trunkflOW wrote:
\\ 1 Is atheism a strong belief?

\\ 2 Are atheists more likely to have atheist children?

\\ 3 Does this 'lack of belief in God' thing has inspired anything?

\\ 4 Is it compatible with morality?

\\ 5 Does atheism fill you with positivity and hope?

\\ 6 Do atheists practice yoga?

\\ 7 Can anything convince atheists that God exists?

Atheists already believe in God. That's why they are here in the religious forum.

"Atheists believe in God"

This is the kind of thing a religious person would say; along with thinking atheists have their own religion. They will argue with an atheist about what the atheist believes. They reject dictionary definitions and claim their made up definitions are the right ones. These are examples, among many, of why religion contributes to the dumbing down of the world.

Not really. When a theory is unproven and has skeptics from all phases of science, and yet is taught to ourchildren as fact, THAT is the dumbing down of society. Just believe it despite no observation of it, no change in kind ever seen, unmeasurable, and untestable...why? The militant atheist Richard Dawkins said so.

I don't believe I have ever seen Dawkins advocating god...or were you referring to something else? ;-)
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5/2/2016 4:41:18 AM
Posted: 7 months ago
At 4/30/2016 10:33:46 AM, trunkflOW wrote:
\\ 1 Is atheism a strong belief?

no, that would require one support what they say.


\\ 2 Are atheists more likely to have atheist children?

Yes. But unlike Christians raised by Christians and being born in Iraq growing up Muslim, THIS correlation is because Atheist children have a higher IQ genetically inherited from high IQ atheist parents, and so their non-religiousness is from Rational smart minds. not raising.


\\ 3 Does this 'lack of belief in God' thing has inspired anything?

Yes, it inspired the Khmer Rouge to reset Cambodia back to the stone age, it inspired Church burnings, it inspires censorship of religious ideas and scripture in public places, it inspires the vandalism of historical pieces and places.

\\ 4 Is it compatible with morality?

morality is what ever we make it. So yeah it's compatible to what ever we make.


\\ 5 Does atheism fill you with positivity and hope?

As long as that hole is filled with ridiculing believers, money, sex, drugs, and rock and roll. then yes.


\\ 6 Do atheists practice yoga?

Not all,

\\ 7 Can anything convince atheists that God exists?

No. Some have said if God showed himself to them, they would think they were having a hallucination. That's what they think testimonies are.. delusions. They even say if God exists we should unite together to kill him.