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Why would you bring a gun to church?

dee-em
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5/2/2016 2:52:01 PM
Posted: 7 months ago
To answer the thread title: It's a self-defence measure in case some crazed atheist attacks the congregation. You know how militant these atheist types are, right?

(Christians take the commandment "though shalt not kill" as an advisory admonition only).
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5/2/2016 2:56:33 PM
Posted: 7 months ago
At 5/2/2016 2:34:47 PM, dhardage wrote:
Seriously, what kind of church service should ever end up like this?

http://www.theepochtimes.com...

To be fair, this has little to do with religion.
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5/2/2016 2:59:35 PM
Posted: 7 months ago
At 5/2/2016 2:56:33 PM, Skepticalone wrote:
At 5/2/2016 2:34:47 PM, dhardage wrote:
Seriously, what kind of church service should ever end up like this?

http://www.theepochtimes.com...

To be fair, this has little to do with religion.

Perhaps, but it demonstrates how far from their religious strictures that theists wander.
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5/2/2016 3:00:57 PM
Posted: 7 months ago
At 5/2/2016 2:52:01 PM, dee-em wrote:
To answer the thread title: It's a self-defence measure in case some crazed atheist attacks the congregation. You know how militant these atheist types are, right?

(Christians take the commandment "though shalt not kill" as an advisory admonition only).

Self defense is the correct answer, and self defense is not equivalent to murder. This is not a concept exclusive to religion.

Also, it doesn't sound like this case has anything to do with self defense.
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5/2/2016 3:11:02 PM
Posted: 7 months ago
At 5/2/2016 2:59:35 PM, dhardage wrote:
At 5/2/2016 2:56:33 PM, Skepticalone wrote:
At 5/2/2016 2:34:47 PM, dhardage wrote:
Seriously, what kind of church service should ever end up like this?

http://www.theepochtimes.com...

To be fair, this has little to do with religion.

Perhaps, but it demonstrates how far from their religious strictures that theists wander.

I don't think the shooter killed "in the name of god", so it shouldn't be conflated to a religious view. If the shooter were an atheist, we would be quick to point out the shooter did not act according to any atheistic view.
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5/2/2016 3:36:44 PM
Posted: 7 months ago
At 5/2/2016 3:11:02 PM, Skepticalone wrote:
At 5/2/2016 2:59:35 PM, dhardage wrote:
At 5/2/2016 2:56:33 PM, Skepticalone wrote:
At 5/2/2016 2:34:47 PM, dhardage wrote:
Seriously, what kind of church service should ever end up like this?

http://www.theepochtimes.com...

To be fair, this has little to do with religion.

Perhaps, but it demonstrates how far from their religious strictures that theists wander.

I don't think the shooter killed "in the name of god", so it shouldn't be conflated to a religious view. If the shooter were an atheist, we would be quick to point out the shooter did not act according to any atheistic view.

Sorry, a Christian who is supposed to 'turn the other cheek' shouldn't even be carrying a weapon. There is no such stricture for an atheist so that is not a valid comparison, IMO.
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5/2/2016 3:49:19 PM
Posted: 7 months ago
At 5/2/2016 3:36:44 PM, dhardage wrote:
At 5/2/2016 3:11:02 PM, Skepticalone wrote:
At 5/2/2016 2:59:35 PM, dhardage wrote:
At 5/2/2016 2:56:33 PM, Skepticalone wrote:
At 5/2/2016 2:34:47 PM, dhardage wrote:
Seriously, what kind of church service should ever end up like this?

http://www.theepochtimes.com...

To be fair, this has little to do with religion.

Perhaps, but it demonstrates how far from their religious strictures that theists wander.

I don't think the shooter killed "in the name of god", so it shouldn't be conflated to a religious view. If the shooter were an atheist, we would be quick to point out the shooter did not act according to any atheistic view.

Sorry, a Christian who is supposed to 'turn the other cheek' shouldn't even be carrying a weapon. There is no such stricture for an atheist so that is not a valid comparison, IMO.

I think that is a good point if the Bible had only one interpretation, but we would need to be as dogmatic as some believers to claim that.
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5/2/2016 3:59:38 PM
Posted: 7 months ago
At 5/2/2016 3:36:44 PM, dhardage wrote:
At 5/2/2016 3:11:02 PM, Skepticalone wrote:
At 5/2/2016 2:59:35 PM, dhardage wrote:
At 5/2/2016 2:56:33 PM, Skepticalone wrote:
At 5/2/2016 2:34:47 PM, dhardage wrote:
Seriously, what kind of church service should ever end up like this?

http://www.theepochtimes.com...

To be fair, this has little to do with religion.

Perhaps, but it demonstrates how far from their religious strictures that theists wander.

I don't think the shooter killed "in the name of god", so it shouldn't be conflated to a religious view. If the shooter were an atheist, we would be quick to point out the shooter did not act according to any atheistic view.

Sorry, a Christian who is supposed to 'turn the other cheek' shouldn't even be carrying a weapon. There is no such stricture for an atheist so that is not a valid comparison, IMO.

This article is not representative of that point just because it occurred in a church, though. You could choose any instance in which a Christian brandishes a weapon as an equally valid example. Would you argue that Christians should not be police, as well?

People will be people no matter where they are.