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Hayd
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5/8/2016 5:15:07 PM
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What do you think life would have been like if Adam and Eve would have not given into temptation and didn't eat the fruits in the garden of Eden? Do you think it would have been a net positive?
bulproof
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5/9/2016 3:23:03 AM
Posted: 6 months ago
At 5/9/2016 3:14:37 AM, Hayd wrote:
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A&E are fictional.
Religion is just mind control. George Carlin
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5/9/2016 3:26:37 AM
Posted: 6 months ago
At 5/8/2016 5:15:07 PM, Hayd wrote:
What do you think life would have been like if Adam and Eve would have not given into temptation and didn't eat the fruits in the garden of Eden? Do you think it would have been a net positive? : :

Most people who read the story about Adam and Eve in the garden do not understand it's symbolism. It was impossible for Adam and Eve not to eat the fruit from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil.
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5/9/2016 3:29:14 AM
Posted: 6 months ago
A & E are indeed Fictional!

The entire bible and ALL religious books are 100% human devised!

If we take a look at the Story book bible about A & Eve and their supposed bringing Death upon themselves, the bible lies that they brought Death upon themselves (in ANY Form) because they sinned - ate the forbidden fruit!

We know this simply because they were innately dependent on the Tree of Life to make them ' Live Forever '.

Hence they were Created innately 100% MORTAL!

bible-based ideology is founded upon LIES!
Hayd
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5/9/2016 3:31:42 AM
Posted: 6 months ago
At 5/9/2016 3:23:03 AM, bulproof wrote:
At 5/9/2016 3:14:37 AM, Hayd wrote:
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A&E are fictional.

I know. That doesn't mean we can't discuss it. If we assume that it were true, then answer the question. Its still interesting
Hayd
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5/9/2016 3:32:32 AM
Posted: 6 months ago
At 5/9/2016 3:26:37 AM, jdmorgan wrote:
At 5/8/2016 5:15:07 PM, Hayd wrote:
What do you think life would have been like if Adam and Eve would have not given into temptation and didn't eat the fruits in the garden of Eden? Do you think it would have been a net positive? : :

Most people who read the story about Adam and Eve in the garden do not understand it's symbolism. It was impossible for Adam and Eve not to eat the fruit from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil.

Why's is impossible? Were Adam and Eve not equipped with enough holiness to resist the sinful snake?
Hayd
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5/9/2016 3:33:21 AM
Posted: 6 months ago
At 5/9/2016 3:29:14 AM, Composer wrote:
A & E are indeed Fictional!

The entire bible and ALL religious books are 100% human devised!

If we take a look at the Story book bible about A & Eve and their supposed bringing Death upon themselves, the bible lies that they brought Death upon themselves (in ANY Form) because they sinned - ate the forbidden fruit!

We know this simply because they were innately dependent on the Tree of Life to make them ' Live Forever '.

Hence they were Created innately 100% MORTAL!

bible-based ideology is founded upon LIES!

This is irrelevnent. If we were to take A and E as true, what would the earth be like? Its a discussion point on that, not meta
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5/9/2016 3:37:21 AM
Posted: 6 months ago
At 5/9/2016 3:32:32 AM, Hayd wrote:
At 5/9/2016 3:26:37 AM, jdmorgan wrote:
At 5/8/2016 5:15:07 PM, Hayd wrote:
What do you think life would have been like if Adam and Eve would have not given into temptation and didn't eat the fruits in the garden of Eden? Do you think it would have been a net positive? : :

Most people who read the story about Adam and Eve in the garden do not understand it's symbolism. It was impossible for Adam and Eve not to eat the fruit from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil.

Why's is impossible? Were Adam and Eve not equipped with enough holiness to resist the sinful snake?

What do you allege was sinful about the bible Story book Serpent!
Hayd
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5/9/2016 3:38:16 AM
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At 5/9/2016 3:37:21 AM, Composer wrote:
At 5/9/2016 3:32:32 AM, Hayd wrote:
At 5/9/2016 3:26:37 AM, jdmorgan wrote:
At 5/8/2016 5:15:07 PM, Hayd wrote:
What do you think life would have been like if Adam and Eve would have not given into temptation and didn't eat the fruits in the garden of Eden? Do you think it would have been a net positive? : :

Most people who read the story about Adam and Eve in the garden do not understand it's symbolism. It was impossible for Adam and Eve not to eat the fruit from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil.

Why's is impossible? Were Adam and Eve not equipped with enough holiness to resist the sinful snake?

What do you allege was sinful about the bible Story book Serpent!

It was inherently sinful, it wanted adam and eve to sin.
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5/9/2016 4:32:04 AM
Posted: 6 months ago
At 5/9/2016 3:32:32 AM, Hayd wrote:
At 5/9/2016 3:26:37 AM, jdmorgan wrote:
At 5/8/2016 5:15:07 PM, Hayd wrote:
What do you think life would have been like if Adam and Eve would have not given into temptation and didn't eat the fruits in the garden of Eden? Do you think it would have been a net positive? : :

Most people who read the story about Adam and Eve in the garden do not understand it's symbolism. It was impossible for Adam and Eve not to eat the fruit from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil.

Why's is impossible? Were Adam and Eve not equipped with enough holiness to resist the sinful snake? : :

Adam and Eve actually believed that the objects they observed in their minds were real. It would have been impossible for God to tell them they were only illusions within their minds. In fact, most people today still believe the objects they view within their minds are real.
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5/9/2016 5:20:30 AM
Posted: 6 months ago
At 5/9/2016 3:37:21 AM, Composer wrote:
What do you allege was sinful about the bible Story book Serpent!

At 5/9/2016 3:38:16 AM, Hayd wrote:
It was inherently sinful, it wanted adam and eve to sin.

You are making a claim, but provide NO supportive evidence for that claim!

IF you really wish to discuss this fully? then you need more than accusations, which is all you have so far!
desmac
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5/9/2016 6:42:11 AM
Posted: 6 months ago
How would A and E (not accident and emergency) have got their vitamins if they hadn't eaten the fruit?
EtrnlVw
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5/9/2016 11:25:36 AM
Posted: 6 months ago
At 5/8/2016 5:15:07 PM, Hayd wrote:
What do you think life would have been like if Adam and Eve would have not given into temptation and didn't eat the fruits in the garden of Eden? Do you think it would have been a net positive?

You can look at the Adam and Eve account as a representation of our sin nature. A lot of people miss the point so they think it's unfair we all pay a price for what one man did, that is silly and that is missing the moral behind the story (not saying you have).
The point...is that we all fall short of being perfect or making only good, righteous decisions or maintaining positive behaviors all the time, at some point we fall....

The snake is representative of our temptations, our weaknesses, our flesh nature or carnal nature (notice how the snake subtly seduces). When people focus too much on the story they miss the backdrop and spiritual lesson behind it.
The "fruit, snake, tree, fig leaves" ect. are all irrelevant, those things represent us universally, in other words the story represents all of our short comings as a whole.

So basically seeing as how the account is a representation of our flesh nature it's not possible to have not eaten the fruit, that would diminish the moral of the story completely.
But "what if" we all only made good, loving, Godly, self-less decisions all the time...? it would probably be a paradise on earth lol, kinda like the Garden prior to the fall, before corruptible human nature, manipulation and control set afoot.
matt8800
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5/9/2016 3:02:50 PM
Posted: 6 months ago
At 5/8/2016 5:15:07 PM, Hayd wrote:
What do you think life would have been like if Adam and Eve would have not given into temptation and didn't eat the fruits in the garden of Eden? Do you think it would have been a net positive?

Here is another thought to ponder:

What if Xenu had not sent thetans to earth 75 million years ago?

To all the disbelievers - It happened because Scientology says so and Scientology says Scientology is accurate...case closed ;)
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5/9/2016 3:05:56 PM
Posted: 6 months ago
At 5/8/2016 5:15:07 PM, Hayd wrote:
What do you think life would have been like if Adam and Eve would have not given into temptation and didn't eat the fruits in the garden of Eden? Do you think it would have been a net positive?

Why did "god" put it there in the first place if he didn't want it eaten? God sounds like an idiot.
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5/9/2016 6:11:54 PM
Posted: 6 months ago
At 5/9/2016 3:26:37 AM, jdmorgan wrote:
At 5/8/2016 5:15:07 PM, Hayd wrote:
What do you think life would have been like if Adam and Eve would have not given into temptation and didn't eat the fruits in the garden of Eden? Do you think it would have been a net positive? : :

Most people who read the story about Adam and Eve in the garden do not understand it's symbolism. It was impossible for Adam and Eve not to eat the fruit from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil.

Then, if it was impossible for Adam and Eve to not eat from the tree of knowledge. why were they punished? And why were all humans after them punished?
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5/9/2016 7:14:55 PM
Posted: 6 months ago
At 5/8/2016 5:15:07 PM, Hayd wrote:
What do you think life would have been like if Adam and Eve would have not given into temptation and didn't eat the fruits in the garden of Eden? Do you think it would have been a net positive?

god knew the outcome before he put A&E and the snake in the garden, this way god can put blame on his imperfect creations and give them and there children sin.
Skepticalone
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5/9/2016 8:01:02 PM
Posted: 6 months ago
At 5/8/2016 5:15:07 PM, Hayd wrote:
What do you think life would have been like if Adam and Eve would have not given into temptation and didn't eat the fruits in the garden of Eden? Do you think it would have been a net positive?

IT'S FICTIONAL!!! ...oh, nevermind, I see that's already been covered. ;-)

Well, there would have been no death, no painful childbirth, and no struggle against nature. Overall, I think eating the fruit would be better for mankind since life without failure is also life without success. Without difficulties, humanity would have no strength of character and simply take every thing for granted. Without curiosity, we would never learn new things.
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