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dattaswami
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5/15/2016 3:02:27 PM
Posted: 6 months ago
(Excerpt from message of Shri Datta Swami)

When you imagine God as the all-pervading space, such an imagination itself is only an item of creation. Such imagination is only an incarnation of God. When you imagine Him as space, you imagine God who has entered space and is in the space. Similarly, if you imagine God as all-pervading energy, you have imagined only the energy in which God is present. Therefore, you perceive God as space, inert energy or mental energy (awareness) such forms of God are only the incarnations of God in the forms of space, inert energy or awareness respectively. This means that you can perceive only an incarnation of God and never the absolute God.

When you perceive God as space, you call God as formless. If this space is taken as vacuum or "nothingness", then God does not exist as per Buddhism or the older concept of science. But now science accepts space as a form of energy. Therefore, according to science "nothingness" does not exist at all. According to science, the example of "nothingness" is space itself and now the space has also become "something". Therefore, now a scientist cannot say that God does not exist because non-existence or "nothing" is vacuum or space, which also is a form of energy.

Buddhism adopted ancient logic, which like the older concept of science, believed that space was non-existence of anything. Since, science, which is the modern logic overrules the ancient logic, Buddhism is naturally rejected by the modern science. If a scientist says that God does not exist, he is a no more a scientist because he is not aware of the latest special theory of relativity. Thus, an atheist is an outdated scientist. All the modern scientists, who are aware of the latest concept of space, have to believe in the existence of God.
DanneJeRusse
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5/15/2016 3:21:47 PM
Posted: 6 months ago
At 5/15/2016 3:02:27 PM, dattaswami wrote:
(Excerpt from message of Shri Datta Swami)

When you imagine God as the all-pervading space, such an imagination itself is only an item of creation. Such imagination is only an incarnation of God. When you imagine Him as space, you imagine God who has entered space and is in the space. Similarly, if you imagine God as all-pervading energy, you have imagined only the energy in which God is present. Therefore, you perceive God as space, inert energy or mental energy (awareness) such forms of God are only the incarnations of God in the forms of space, inert energy or awareness respectively. This means that you can perceive only an incarnation of God and never the absolute God.

When you perceive God as space, you call God as formless. If this space is taken as vacuum or "nothingness", then God does not exist as per Buddhism or the older concept of science. But now science accepts space as a form of energy. Therefore, according to science "nothingness" does not exist at all. According to science, the example of "nothingness" is space itself and now the space has also become "something". Therefore, now a scientist cannot say that God does not exist because non-existence or "nothing" is vacuum or space, which also is a form of energy.

Buddhism adopted ancient logic, which like the older concept of science, believed that space was non-existence of anything. Since, science, which is the modern logic overrules the ancient logic, Buddhism is naturally rejected by the modern science.

Sorry, but Science does not reject Buddhism, it simply does not find any evidence to pursue or hypotheses to submit, Science is completely indifferent to Buddhism.

If a scientist says that God does not exist, he is a no more a scientist because he is not aware of the latest special theory of relativity.

There is only one Special Theory of Relativity, of which mostly physicists and engineers will require to understand, which they do. There is no "latest" version, and the current one has nothing to do with gods or their alleged existence.

Thus, an atheist is an outdated scientist. All the modern scientists, who are aware of the latest concept of space, have to believe in the existence of God.

That is pure baloney.

It is when a religionist begins to either attempt to align their religion with science or they just outright deny and despise science, do they find themselves questioning their beliefs in light of reality and what science helps us understand about the world around us compared to myths and superstitions they still embrace today.
Marrying a 6 year old and waiting until she reaches puberty and maturity before having consensual sex is better than walking up to
a stranger in a bar and proceeding to have relations with no valid proof of the intent of the person. Muhammad wins. ~ Fatihah
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Harikrish
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5/15/2016 10:15:28 PM
Posted: 6 months ago
At 5/15/2016 3:21:47 PM, DanneJeRusse wrote:
At 5/15/2016 3:02:27 PM, dattaswami wrote:
(Excerpt from message of Shri Datta Swami)

When you imagine God as the all-pervading space, such an imagination itself is only an item of creation. Such imagination is only an incarnation of God. When you imagine Him as space, you imagine God who has entered space and is in the space. Similarly, if you imagine God as all-pervading energy, you have imagined only the energy in which God is present. Therefore, you perceive God as space, inert energy or mental energy (awareness) such forms of God are only the incarnations of God in the forms of space, inert energy or awareness respectively. This means that you can perceive only an incarnation of God and never the absolute God.

When you perceive God as space, you call God as formless. If this space is taken as vacuum or "nothingness", then God does not exist as per Buddhism or the older concept of science. But now science accepts space as a form of energy. Therefore, according to science "nothingness" does not exist at all. According to science, the example of "nothingness" is space itself and now the space has also become "something". Therefore, now a scientist cannot say that God does not exist because non-existence or "nothing" is vacuum or space, which also is a form of energy.

Buddhism adopted ancient logic, which like the older concept of science, believed that space was non-existence of anything. Since, science, which is the modern logic overrules the ancient logic, Buddhism is naturally rejected by the modern science.

Sorry, but Science does not reject Buddhism, it simply does not find any evidence to pursue or hypotheses to submit, Science is completely indifferent to Buddhism.

You are so wrong.
Harvard Goes To The Himalayas " Monks With "Superhuman" Abilities Show Scientists What We Can All Do.
http://www.collective-evolution.com...

If a scientist says that God does not exist, he is a no more a scientist because he is not aware of the latest special theory of relativity.

There is only one Special Theory of Relativity, of which mostly physicists and engineers will require to understand, which they do. There is no "latest" version, and the current one has nothing to do with gods or their alleged existence.

I am sure Dattaswami meant Quantum Theory where the boundaries between the physical and spiritual are being blurred.

Thus, an atheist is an outdated scientist. All the modern scientists, who are aware of the latest concept of space, have to believe in the existence of God.

That is pure baloney.

Show some respect you low caste untouchable.

It is when a religionist begins to either attempt to align their religion with science or they just outright deny and despise science, do they find themselves questioning their beliefs in light of reality and what science helps us understand about the world around us compared to myths and superstitions they still embrace today.

Quantum Physics came from the Vedas: Schr"dinger, Einstein and Tesla were all Vedantists
http://theattainer.com...

Did tbe Vedic Philosophy Influence the Concept of Free Energy and Quantum Mechanics?

https://www.scienceandnonduality.com...