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janesix
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5/21/2016 8:45:58 PM
Posted: 6 months ago
Can anyone point me to sources where scientists/mathematicians claim to have been inspired by god?
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5/22/2016 12:17:23 AM
Posted: 6 months ago
At 5/21/2016 8:45:58 PM, janesix wrote:
Can anyone point me to sources where scientists/mathematicians claim to have been inspired by god?

Inspired by an actual god or inspired by the idea of god?
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5/22/2016 12:42:06 AM
Posted: 6 months ago
At 5/22/2016 12:17:23 AM, dee-em wrote:
At 5/21/2016 8:45:58 PM, janesix wrote:
Can anyone point me to sources where scientists/mathematicians claim to have been inspired by god?

Inspired by an actual god or inspired by the idea of god?

By their perception of god.
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5/22/2016 12:49:39 AM
Posted: 6 months ago
At 5/22/2016 12:42:06 AM, janesix wrote:
At 5/22/2016 12:17:23 AM, dee-em wrote:
At 5/21/2016 8:45:58 PM, janesix wrote:
Can anyone point me to sources where scientists/mathematicians claim to have been inspired by god?

Inspired by an actual god or inspired by the idea of god?

By their perception of god.

Why would you be interested in that case?
Does it matter?
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5/22/2016 12:56:15 AM
Posted: 6 months ago
At 5/21/2016 8:45:58 PM, janesix wrote:
Can anyone point me to sources where scientists/mathematicians claim to have been inspired by god?

I am sure there are many, perhaps you could use Isaac Newton, but I have to ask like above. What difference does it make?
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5/22/2016 1:04:12 AM
Posted: 6 months ago
At 5/22/2016 12:49:39 AM, dee-em wrote:
At 5/22/2016 12:42:06 AM, janesix wrote:
At 5/22/2016 12:17:23 AM, dee-em wrote:
At 5/21/2016 8:45:58 PM, janesix wrote:
Can anyone point me to sources where scientists/mathematicians claim to have been inspired by god?

Inspired by an actual god or inspired by the idea of god?

By their perception of god.

Why would you be interested in that case?
Does it matter?
It matters to me.

Because the universe shows me visions and i am sure thats how it communicates with us. I dont think the universe can communicate directly.
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5/22/2016 4:22:10 AM
Posted: 6 months ago
At 5/22/2016 1:04:12 AM, janesix wrote:
At 5/22/2016 12:49:39 AM, dee-em wrote:
At 5/22/2016 12:42:06 AM, janesix wrote:
At 5/22/2016 12:17:23 AM, dee-em wrote:
At 5/21/2016 8:45:58 PM, janesix wrote:
Can anyone point me to sources where scientists/mathematicians claim to have been inspired by god?

Inspired by an actual god or inspired by the idea of god?

By their perception of god.

Why would you be interested in that case?
Does it matter?
It matters to me.

Because the universe shows me visions and i am sure thats how it communicates with us. I dont think the universe can communicate directly.

Your own mind/ imagination causes you to see so called visions.

Plenty of false prophets and mentally disturbed people have seen visions in their life.
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5/22/2016 4:46:06 AM
Posted: 6 months ago
At 5/22/2016 1:04:12 AM, janesix wrote:
At 5/22/2016 12:49:39 AM, dee-em wrote:
At 5/22/2016 12:42:06 AM, janesix wrote:
At 5/22/2016 12:17:23 AM, dee-em wrote:
At 5/21/2016 8:45:58 PM, janesix wrote:
Can anyone point me to sources where scientists/mathematicians claim to have been inspired by god?

Inspired by an actual god or inspired by the idea of god?

By their perception of god.

Why would you be interested in that case?
Does it matter?
It matters to me.

Because the universe shows me visions and i am sure thats how it communicates with us. I dont think the universe can communicate directly.

Would it not make sense that it is just you communicating with yourself? There is actually a lot of spirituality that can correlate with that idea. Nothing proven, but at least a thought... what if you knew exactly what you were doing coming here... and it is that part of you that transcends and is the one communicating? Plus, a lot of artists would say some kind of dream or thought gave them their next idea... a lot of people can say they had a dream about the missing part of a hypothesis... but that is them... who they are meant to be to this earth. You are you. Maybe not as popular but definitely a part of and influential to something here... I always tell people... do you really want to be what you think you want to be or is it just a momentary obsession? Finding the answer to these things is a journey. What if you are just guiding you on your journey?
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5/22/2016 5:06:02 AM
Posted: 6 months ago
At 5/22/2016 4:22:10 AM, Skyangel wrote:
At 5/22/2016 1:04:12 AM, janesix wrote:
At 5/22/2016 12:49:39 AM, dee-em wrote:
At 5/22/2016 12:42:06 AM, janesix wrote:
At 5/22/2016 12:17:23 AM, dee-em wrote:
At 5/21/2016 8:45:58 PM, janesix wrote:
Can anyone point me to sources where scientists/mathematicians claim to have been inspired by god?

Inspired by an actual god or inspired by the idea of god?

By their perception of god.

Why would you be interested in that case?
Does it matter?
It matters to me.

Because the universe shows me visions and i am sure thats how it communicates with us. I dont think the universe can communicate directly.

Your own mind/ imagination causes you to see so called visions.

It is not my imagination. How can I give myself information I don't know about?

Plenty of false prophets and mentally disturbed people have seen visions in their life.
janesix
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5/22/2016 5:07:19 AM
Posted: 6 months ago
At 5/22/2016 4:46:06 AM, Outplayz wrote:
At 5/22/2016 1:04:12 AM, janesix wrote:
At 5/22/2016 12:49:39 AM, dee-em wrote:
At 5/22/2016 12:42:06 AM, janesix wrote:
At 5/22/2016 12:17:23 AM, dee-em wrote:
At 5/21/2016 8:45:58 PM, janesix wrote:
Can anyone point me to sources where scientists/mathematicians claim to have been inspired by god?

Inspired by an actual god or inspired by the idea of god?

By their perception of god.

Why would you be interested in that case?
Does it matter?
It matters to me.

Because the universe shows me visions and i am sure thats how it communicates with us. I dont think the universe can communicate directly.

Would it not make sense that it is just you communicating with yourself? There is actually a lot of spirituality that can correlate with that idea. Nothing proven, but at least a thought... what if you knew exactly what you were doing coming here... and it is that part of you that transcends and is the one communicating? Plus, a lot of artists would say some kind of dream or thought gave them their next idea... a lot of people can say they had a dream about the missing part of a hypothesis... but that is them... who they are meant to be to this earth. You are you. Maybe not as popular but definitely a part of and influential to something here... I always tell people... do you really want to be what you think you want to be or is it just a momentary obsession? Finding the answer to these things is a journey. What if you are just guiding you on your journey?

It's more like I am a part of the universe, so what you are saying has truth to it.
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5/22/2016 5:14:17 AM
Posted: 6 months ago
At 5/22/2016 5:07:19 AM, janesix wrote:
At 5/22/2016 4:46:06 AM, Outplayz wrote:
At 5/22/2016 1:04:12 AM, janesix wrote:
At 5/22/2016 12:49:39 AM, dee-em wrote:
At 5/22/2016 12:42:06 AM, janesix wrote:
At 5/22/2016 12:17:23 AM, dee-em wrote:
At 5/21/2016 8:45:58 PM, janesix wrote:
Can anyone point me to sources where scientists/mathematicians claim to have been inspired by god?

Inspired by an actual god or inspired by the idea of god?

By their perception of god.

Why would you be interested in that case?
Does it matter?
It matters to me.

Because the universe shows me visions and i am sure thats how it communicates with us. I dont think the universe can communicate directly.

Would it not make sense that it is just you communicating with yourself? There is actually a lot of spirituality that can correlate with that idea. Nothing proven, but at least a thought... what if you knew exactly what you were doing coming here... and it is that part of you that transcends and is the one communicating? Plus, a lot of artists would say some kind of dream or thought gave them their next idea... a lot of people can say they had a dream about the missing part of a hypothesis... but that is them... who they are meant to be to this earth. You are you. Maybe not as popular but definitely a part of and influential to something here... I always tell people... do you really want to be what you think you want to be or is it just a momentary obsession? Finding the answer to these things is a journey. What if you are just guiding you on your journey?

It's more like I am a part of the universe, so what you are saying has truth to it.

I believe this universe is just one of many ... infinitely. Others with different rules, others in which we may be cartoon characters (if viewed from our perception now). It is all possible in my opinion, even unicorns...yep lol... Anyways, that is why i said what i did... the universe is just the platform in my opinion... you are the traveler... which should make you feel pretty free and empowered if you can see it. I just don't like the idea of a "god." It is very human. It is very primitive. It is the personification of every dictator, every oppressive government, every narcissistic authority, every thing or person that wants to have power over you, basically. Even if there is a god, within its ultimate power... i think it would do something to which it is not god. That is what most theists don't understand in my opinion. They can't empathize with what it would mean to be god.
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5/22/2016 5:20:08 AM
Posted: 6 months ago
At 5/22/2016 5:06:02 AM, janesix wrote:
It is not my imagination. How can I give myself information I don't know about?

Can you provide examples of this ' information ' you refer to?
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5/22/2016 5:22:50 AM
Posted: 6 months ago
At 5/22/2016 5:20:08 AM, Composer wrote:
At 5/22/2016 5:06:02 AM, janesix wrote:
It is not my imagination. How can I give myself information I don't know about?

Can you provide examples of this ' information ' you refer to?

Numbers, like multiples of 27. Geometry, like the squared circle of the Earth and moon. The evolution leading to humans.
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5/22/2016 5:29:50 AM
Posted: 6 months ago
At 5/22/2016 5:20:08 AM, Composer wrote:
At 5/22/2016 5:06:02 AM, janesix wrote:
It is not my imagination. How can I give myself information I don't know about?

Can you provide examples of this ' information ' you refer to?

At 5/22/2016 5:22:50 AM, janesix wrote:
Numbers, like multiples of 27. Geometry, like the squared circle of the Earth and moon. The evolution leading to humans.

It took people to figure those things out!

Did YOU figure them out first or at any time?

Or did others do it then you got to know the results of their efforts from teachers?
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5/22/2016 5:36:33 AM
Posted: 6 months ago
At 5/22/2016 5:29:50 AM, Composer wrote:
At 5/22/2016 5:20:08 AM, Composer wrote:
At 5/22/2016 5:06:02 AM, janesix wrote:
It is not my imagination. How can I give myself information I don't know about?

Can you provide examples of this ' information ' you refer to?

At 5/22/2016 5:22:50 AM, janesix wrote:
Numbers, like multiples of 27. Geometry, like the squared circle of the Earth and moon. The evolution leading to humans.

It took people to figure those things out!

Did YOU figure them out first or at any time?

Or did others do it then you got to know the results of their efforts from teachers?

No, I didn't figure these things out. The universe showed them to me. Some people have figured things out on their own. These are not things I was interested in before the universe showed me.
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5/22/2016 6:21:58 AM
Posted: 6 months ago
At 5/22/2016 5:29:50 AM, Composer wrote:
At 5/22/2016 5:20:08 AM, Composer wrote:
At 5/22/2016 5:06:02 AM, janesix wrote:
It is not my imagination. How can I give myself information I don't know about?

Can you provide examples of this ' information ' you refer to?

At 5/22/2016 5:22:50 AM, janesix wrote:
Numbers, like multiples of 27. Geometry, like the squared circle of the Earth and moon. The evolution leading to humans.

It took people to figure those things out!

Did YOU figure them out first or at any time?

Or did others do it then you got to know the results of their efforts from teachers?

At 5/22/2016 5:36:33 AM, janesix wrote:
No, I didn't figure these things out. The universe showed them to me. Some people have figured things out on their own. These are not things I was interested in before the universe showed me.

You still haven't legitimately demonstrated how ' the universe ' showed you things like, e.g. numbers, multiples of 27?
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5/22/2016 2:00:05 PM
Posted: 6 months ago
At 5/22/2016 1:04:12 AM, janesix wrote:
At 5/22/2016 12:49:39 AM, dee-em wrote:
At 5/22/2016 12:42:06 AM, janesix wrote:
At 5/22/2016 12:17:23 AM, dee-em wrote:
At 5/21/2016 8:45:58 PM, janesix wrote:
Can anyone point me to sources where scientists/mathematicians claim to have been inspired by god?

Inspired by an actual god or inspired by the idea of god?

By their perception of god.

Why would you be interested in that case?
Does it matter?
It matters to me.

Because the universe shows me visions and i am sure thats how it communicates with us. I dont think the universe can communicate directly.

Ease up on the recreational drugs and the visions may go away.
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5/22/2016 8:32:55 PM
Posted: 6 months ago
At 5/22/2016 6:21:58 AM, Composer wrote:
At 5/22/2016 5:29:50 AM, Composer wrote:
At 5/22/2016 5:20:08 AM, Composer wrote:
At 5/22/2016 5:06:02 AM, janesix wrote:
It is not my imagination. How can I give myself information I don't know about?

Can you provide examples of this ' information ' you refer to?

At 5/22/2016 5:22:50 AM, janesix wrote:
Numbers, like multiples of 27. Geometry, like the squared circle of the Earth and moon. The evolution leading to humans.

It took people to figure those things out!

Did YOU figure them out first or at any time?

Or did others do it then you got to know the results of their efforts from teachers?

At 5/22/2016 5:36:33 AM, janesix wrote:
No, I didn't figure these things out. The universe showed them to me. Some people have figured things out on their own. These are not things I was interested in before the universe showed me.

You still haven't legitimately demonstrated how ' the universe ' showed you things like, e.g. numbers, multiples of 27?

Through visions, dreams, changing my clocks, synchronicities.
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5/22/2016 8:33:35 PM
Posted: 6 months ago
At 5/22/2016 2:00:05 PM, dee-em wrote:
At 5/22/2016 1:04:12 AM, janesix wrote:
At 5/22/2016 12:49:39 AM, dee-em wrote:
At 5/22/2016 12:42:06 AM, janesix wrote:
At 5/22/2016 12:17:23 AM, dee-em wrote:
At 5/21/2016 8:45:58 PM, janesix wrote:
Can anyone point me to sources where scientists/mathematicians claim to have been inspired by god?

Inspired by an actual god or inspired by the idea of god?

By their perception of god.

Why would you be interested in that case?
Does it matter?
It matters to me.

Because the universe shows me visions and i am sure thats how it communicates with us. I dont think the universe can communicate directly.

Ease up on the recreational drugs and the visions may go away.

I don't do drugs.
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5/23/2016 2:55:24 AM
Posted: 6 months ago
At 5/22/2016 6:21:58 AM, Composer wrote:
At 5/22/2016 5:29:50 AM, Composer wrote:
At 5/22/2016 5:20:08 AM, Composer wrote:
At 5/22/2016 5:06:02 AM, janesix wrote:
It is not my imagination. How can I give myself information I don't know about?

Can you provide examples of this ' information ' you refer to?

At 5/22/2016 5:22:50 AM, janesix wrote:
Numbers, like multiples of 27. Geometry, like the squared circle of the Earth and moon. The evolution leading to humans.

It took people to figure those things out!

Did YOU figure them out first or at any time?

Or did others do it then you got to know the results of their efforts from teachers?

At 5/22/2016 5:36:33 AM, janesix wrote:
No, I didn't figure these things out. The universe showed them to me. Some people have figured things out on their own. These are not things I was interested in before the universe showed me.

You still haven't legitimately demonstrated how ' the universe ' showed you things like, e.g. numbers, multiples of 27?

At 5/22/2016 8:32:55 PM, janesix wrote:
Through visions, dreams, changing my clocks, synchronicities.
You appear to be content simply making a fool of yourself!
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5/24/2016 12:33:45 AM
Posted: 6 months ago
At 5/22/2016 5:06:02 AM, janesix wrote:
At 5/22/2016 4:22:10 AM, Skyangel wrote:
At 5/22/2016 1:04:12 AM, janesix wrote:
At 5/22/2016 12:49:39 AM, dee-em wrote:
At 5/22/2016 12:42:06 AM, janesix wrote:
At 5/22/2016 12:17:23 AM, dee-em wrote:
At 5/21/2016 8:45:58 PM, janesix wrote:
Can anyone point me to sources where scientists/mathematicians claim to have been inspired by god?

Inspired by an actual god or inspired by the idea of god?

By their perception of god.

Why would you be interested in that case?
Does it matter?
It matters to me.

Because the universe shows me visions and i am sure thats how it communicates with us. I dont think the universe can communicate directly.

Your own mind/ imagination causes you to see so called visions.

It is not my imagination. How can I give myself information I don't know about?

The same as the mind creates dreams and you don't know what you will dream till your mind is in a sleep state.
It's all about ones state of mind.


Plenty of false prophets and mentally disturbed people have seen visions in their life.
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5/24/2016 4:33:37 AM
Posted: 6 months ago
At 5/24/2016 12:33:45 AM, Skyangel wrote:
At 5/22/2016 5:06:02 AM, janesix wrote:
At 5/22/2016 4:22:10 AM, Skyangel wrote:
At 5/22/2016 1:04:12 AM, janesix wrote:
At 5/22/2016 12:49:39 AM, dee-em wrote:
At 5/22/2016 12:42:06 AM, janesix wrote:
At 5/22/2016 12:17:23 AM, dee-em wrote:
At 5/21/2016 8:45:58 PM, janesix wrote:
Can anyone point me to sources where scientists/mathematicians claim to have been inspired by god?

Inspired by an actual god or inspired by the idea of god?

By their perception of god.

Why would you be interested in that case?
Does it matter?
It matters to me.

Because the universe shows me visions and i am sure thats how it communicates with us. I dont think the universe can communicate directly.

Your own mind/ imagination causes you to see so called visions.

It is not my imagination. How can I give myself information I don't know about?

The same as the mind creates dreams and you don't know what you will dream till your mind is in a sleep state.
It's all about ones state of mind.

You are using an example of a sleep state to show how the minds works in a wake state. How does tbe mind create dreams in a wakeful state? Arent you conflating dreams with imagination?

Plenty of false prophets and mentally disturbed people have seen visions in their life.
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5/24/2016 5:47:27 AM
Posted: 6 months ago
At 5/24/2016 4:33:37 AM, Harikrish wrote:
At 5/24/2016 12:33:45 AM, Skyangel wrote:
At 5/22/2016 5:06:02 AM, janesix wrote:
At 5/22/2016 4:22:10 AM, Skyangel wrote:

Your own mind/ imagination causes you to see so called visions.

It is not my imagination. How can I give myself information I don't know about?

The same as the mind creates dreams and you don't know what you will dream till your mind is in a sleep state.
It's all about ones state of mind.

You are using an example of a sleep state to show how the minds works in a wake state. How does tbe mind create dreams in a wakeful state? Arent you conflating dreams with imagination?

People who get lost in their own imaginations are day dreamers who live in fantasy land. They are not really "awake" or alert when they are daydreaming. Their imaginations play tricks on them.

Plenty of false prophets and mentally disturbed people have seen visions in their life.
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5/24/2016 4:39:32 PM
Posted: 6 months ago
At 5/24/2016 5:47:27 AM, Skyangel wrote:
At 5/24/2016 4:33:37 AM, Harikrish wrote:
At 5/24/2016 12:33:45 AM, Skyangel wrote:
At 5/22/2016 5:06:02 AM, janesix wrote:
At 5/22/2016 4:22:10 AM, Skyangel wrote:

Your own mind/ imagination causes you to see so called visions.

It is not my imagination. How can I give myself information I don't know about?

The same as the mind creates dreams and you don't know what you will dream till your mind is in a sleep state.
It's all about ones state of mind.

You are using an example of a sleep state to show how the minds works in a wake state. How does tbe mind create dreams in a wakeful state? Arent you conflating dreams with imagination?

People who get lost in their own imaginations are day dreamers who live in fantasy land. They are not really "awake" or alert when they are daydreaming. Their imaginations play tricks on them.

Instead of responding to the question you end up contradicting yourself. You said they are not really awake when they are daydreaming. But you were asked to show an example of how the mind created dreams in a wakeful state. You cannot show the difference between dreams and imagination. Try again, granny.

Plenty of false prophets and mentally disturbed people have seen visions in their life.
Were they dreaming or were they imagining?
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5/25/2016 12:14:40 AM
Posted: 6 months ago
At 5/24/2016 4:39:32 PM, Harikrish wrote:
At 5/24/2016 5:47:27 AM, Skyangel wrote:
At 5/24/2016 4:33:37 AM, Harikrish wrote:
At 5/24/2016 12:33:45 AM, Skyangel wrote:
At 5/22/2016 5:06:02 AM, janesix wrote:
At 5/22/2016 4:22:10 AM, Skyangel wrote:

Your own mind/ imagination causes you to see so called visions.

It is not my imagination. How can I give myself information I don't know about?

The same as the mind creates dreams and you don't know what you will dream till your mind is in a sleep state.
It's all about ones state of mind.

You are using an example of a sleep state to show how the minds works in a wake state. How does tbe mind create dreams in a wakeful state? Arent you conflating dreams with imagination?

People who get lost in their own imaginations are day dreamers who live in fantasy land. They are not really "awake" or alert when they are daydreaming. Their imaginations play tricks on them.

Instead of responding to the question you end up contradicting yourself. You said they are not really awake when they are daydreaming. But you were asked to show an example of how the mind created dreams in a wakeful state. You cannot show the difference between dreams and imagination. Try again, granny.

Plenty of false prophets and mentally disturbed people have seen visions in their life.
Were they dreaming or were they imagining?

Getting lost in ones imagination is referred to as day dreaming. I am sure you can figure it out if you try really hard.
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5/25/2016 12:27:38 AM
Posted: 6 months ago
At 5/22/2016 1:04:12 AM, janesix wrote:
At 5/22/2016 12:49:39 AM, dee-em wrote:
At 5/22/2016 12:42:06 AM, janesix wrote:
At 5/22/2016 12:17:23 AM, dee-em wrote:
At 5/21/2016 8:45:58 PM, janesix wrote:
Can anyone point me to sources where scientists/mathematicians claim to have been inspired by god?

Inspired by an actual god or inspired by the idea of god?

By their perception of god.

Why would you be interested in that case?
Does it matter?
It matters to me.

Because the universe shows me visions and i am sure thats how it communicates with us. I dont think the universe can communicate directly.

Those are just hallucination you have from a self admitted mental disorder for which you take medications.
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a stranger in a bar and proceeding to have relations with no valid proof of the intent of the person. Muhammad wins. ~ Fatihah
If they don't want to be killed then they have to subdue to the Islamic laws. - Uncung
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5/25/2016 12:28:59 AM
Posted: 6 months ago
At 5/22/2016 5:22:50 AM, janesix wrote:
At 5/22/2016 5:20:08 AM, Composer wrote:
At 5/22/2016 5:06:02 AM, janesix wrote:
It is not my imagination. How can I give myself information I don't know about?

Can you provide examples of this ' information ' you refer to?

Numbers, like multiples of 27. Geometry, like the squared circle of the Earth and moon.

Those are just silly notions you got from the internet.

The evolution leading to humans.
Marrying a 6 year old and waiting until she reaches puberty and maturity before having consensual sex is better than walking up to
a stranger in a bar and proceeding to have relations with no valid proof of the intent of the person. Muhammad wins. ~ Fatihah
If they don't want to be killed then they have to subdue to the Islamic laws. - Uncung
Without God, you are lower than sh!t. ~ SpiritandTruth