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5/22/2016 9:09:09 PM
Posted: 6 months ago
Only Christianity has divine command to protect, love, and honor women.

Hinduism? Nope

Budhism? Nope

Islam? Nope

Atheism? Nope

Christianity? Yep

Atheism no divine command to value women.

Atheism=survival of the fittest or strongest.

Atheism=Females are weaker animal of the 2.

Atheism=no moral obligation to protect or value women.

"Atheism's mysogyny problem"

http://www.salon.com...

Atheism's Sexism Problem"

http://www.patheos.com...

"Sexism: Why womenAre Forced to leave Atheism"

http://qz.com...

"Will Mysogyny bring down the Atheist Movement?"

https://www.buzzfeed.com...

1 Peter 3:7 - Likewise, ye husbands, dwell with them according to knowledge, giving honour unto the wife, and as being heirs together of the grace of life; that your prayers be not hindered.

Ephesians 5:33 - Nevertheless let every one of you in particular so love his wife even as himself; and the wife see that she reverence her husband.

(1 Corinthians 7:3-4)
3 Let the husband render unto the wife due benevolence: and likewise also the wife unto the husband.
4 The wife hath not power of her own body, but the husband: and likewise also the husband hath not power of his own body, but the wife.

Ephesians 5:31 - For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and shall be joined unto his wife, and they two shall be one flesh.

Ephesians 5:28 - So ought men to love their wives as their own bodies. He that loveth his wife loveth himself.

(Ephesians 5:25)
Husbands, love your wives, as Christ loved the church and gave himself up for her.

(Colossians 3:19)
Husbands, love your wives, and do not be harsh with them.

(Proverbs 31:10)
An excellent wife who can find? She is far more precious than jewels. The heart of her husband trusts in her, and he will have no lack of gain. She does him good, and not harm, all the days of her life.

(Proverbs 18:22)
He who finds a wife finds a good thing and obtains favor from the Lord.

(Ecclesiastes 9:9)
Enjoy life with the wife whom you love, all the days of your vain life that he has given you under the sun, because that is your portion in life.

(Proverbs 1:8)
Hear, my son, your father's instruction, and forsake not your mother's teaching.

(Colossians 3:19)"
Husbands, love your wives, and do not be harsh with them.
"What Donald Trump is doing is representing the absolute heartbreak, and anger, and frustration at a government gone mad."

http://youtu.be...
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5/22/2016 9:35:32 PM
Posted: 6 months ago
Jesus: the Upholder of the value of Women:

http://www.everystudent.com...
"What Donald Trump is doing is representing the absolute heartbreak, and anger, and frustration at a government gone mad."

http://youtu.be...
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5/23/2016 5:08:53 AM
Posted: 6 months ago
At 5/22/2016 9:09:09 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
Only Christianity has divine command to protect, love, and honor incubators.
Fixed that for ya.
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5/23/2016 5:20:31 AM
Posted: 6 months ago
At 5/22/2016 9:09:09 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
Only Christianity has divine command to protect, love, and honor women.

Hinduism? Nope

Budhism? Nope

Islam? Nope

Atheism? Nope

Christianity? Yep

Atheism no divine command to value women.

Atheism=survival of the fittest or strongest.

Atheism=Females are weaker animal of the 2.

Atheism=no moral obligation to protect or value women.

"Atheism's mysogyny problem"

http://www.salon.com...

Atheism's Sexism Problem"

http://www.patheos.com...

"Sexism: Why womenAre Forced to leave Atheism"

http://qz.com...

"Will Mysogyny bring down the Atheist Movement?"

https://www.buzzfeed.com...

1 Peter 3:7 - Likewise, ye husbands, dwell with them according to knowledge, giving honour unto the wife, and as being heirs together of the grace of life; that your prayers be not hindered.

Ephesians 5:33 - Nevertheless let every one of you in particular so love his wife even as himself; and the wife see that she reverence her husband.


(1 Corinthians 7:3-4)
3 Let the husband render unto the wife due benevolence: and likewise also the wife unto the husband.
4 The wife hath not power of her own body, but the husband: and likewise also the husband hath not power of his own body, but the wife.

Ephesians 5:31 - For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and shall be joined unto his wife, and they two shall be one flesh.

Ephesians 5:28 - So ought men to love their wives as their own bodies. He that loveth his wife loveth himself.

(Ephesians 5:25)
Husbands, love your wives, as Christ loved the church and gave himself up for her.

(Colossians 3:19)
Husbands, love your wives, and do not be harsh with them.

(Proverbs 31:10)
An excellent wife who can find? She is far more precious than jewels. The heart of her husband trusts in her, and he will have no lack of gain. She does him good, and not harm, all the days of her life.

(Proverbs 18:22)
He who finds a wife finds a good thing and obtains favor from the Lord.

(Ecclesiastes 9:9)
Enjoy life with the wife whom you love, all the days of your vain life that he has given you under the sun, because that is your portion in life.

(Proverbs 1:8)
Hear, my son, your father's instruction, and forsake not your mother's teaching.

(Colossians 3:19)"
Husbands, love your wives, and do not be harsh with them.

What did the last female pope have to say on this matter?
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5/23/2016 6:22:21 AM
Posted: 6 months ago
At 5/22/2016 9:09:09 PM, brontoraptor wrote:

Lol, you've focused your links against atheism instead of the competing religions listed, and show your bias.

I'll make my rebuttal simple since I don't consider your portrayal of atheism to be honest and don't expect a respectful, considered response.

1. No divine command is necessary to treat others (including women) with empathy and respect. Additionally, Christianity doesn't do this anyway, even with its alleged divine command. I'm not going to bother citing any examples from the Bible since another member has recently gone to the trouble:

http://www.debate.org...

2. Atheism is not "survival of the fittest", and even if it were, in a sexually di-morphic species, the "fittest" would not be only one sex. (The species can't naturally survive without both sexes - duh.) Clearly, you don't understand atheism, evolution, or ...biology.

On your links:

3. 1st link: Dawkins doesn't represent the views of all atheists.
4. 2nd link: The second link is an atheist warning other atheists against sexism and reminding us that silence about it is tacit approval. The fact that it is by an atheist is problematic for your narrative against atheists.
5. 3rd link: The article talks of the misogynistic views of "atheist leaders", but (assuming there are leaders of atheism) their views not related to disbelief in god would be outside of their expertise and authority. Appealing to these views as representative of atheists in general is flawed.
6. Final link: Its pretty long and I didn't read it all. If there was illegal activity, then law enforcement should be involved. I didn't see any mention of it.
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5/23/2016 11:29:28 AM
Posted: 6 months ago
At 5/23/2016 5:20:31 AM, desmac wrote:
At 5/22/2016 9:09:09 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
Only Christianity has divine command to protect, love, and honor women.

Hinduism? Nope

Budhism? Nope

Islam? Nope

Atheism? Nope

Christianity? Yep

Atheism no divine command to value women.

Atheism=survival of the fittest or strongest.

Atheism=Females are weaker animal of the 2.

Atheism=no moral obligation to protect or value women.

"Atheism's mysogyny problem"

http://www.salon.com...

Atheism's Sexism Problem"

http://www.patheos.com...

"Sexism: Why womenAre Forced to leave Atheism"

http://qz.com...

"Will Mysogyny bring down the Atheist Movement?"

https://www.buzzfeed.com...

1 Peter 3:7 - Likewise, ye husbands, dwell with them according to knowledge, giving honour unto the wife, and as being heirs together of the grace of life; that your prayers be not hindered.

Ephesians 5:33 - Nevertheless let every one of you in particular so love his wife even as himself; and the wife see that she reverence her husband.


(1 Corinthians 7:3-4)
3 Let the husband render unto the wife due benevolence: and likewise also the wife unto the husband.
4 The wife hath not power of her own body, but the husband: and likewise also the husband hath not power of his own body, but the wife.

Ephesians 5:31 - For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and shall be joined unto his wife, and they two shall be one flesh.

Ephesians 5:28 - So ought men to love their wives as their own bodies. He that loveth his wife loveth himself.

(Ephesians 5:25)
Husbands, love your wives, as Christ loved the church and gave himself up for her.

(Colossians 3:19)
Husbands, love your wives, and do not be harsh with them.

(Proverbs 31:10)
An excellent wife who can find? She is far more precious than jewels. The heart of her husband trusts in her, and he will have no lack of gain. She does him good, and not harm, all the days of her life.

(Proverbs 18:22)
He who finds a wife finds a good thing and obtains favor from the Lord.

(Ecclesiastes 9:9)
Enjoy life with the wife whom you love, all the days of your vain life that he has given you under the sun, because that is your portion in life.

(Proverbs 1:8)
Hear, my son, your father's instruction, and forsake not your mother's teaching.

(Colossians 3:19)"
Husbands, love your wives, and do not be harsh with them.

What did the last female pope have to say on this matter?

I'm not Catholic, so the concept is meaningless to me. But I'm sure David Silverman will be stepping down soon to be replaced by a female...
"What Donald Trump is doing is representing the absolute heartbreak, and anger, and frustration at a government gone mad."

http://youtu.be...
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5/23/2016 11:44:55 AM
Posted: 6 months ago
At 5/23/2016 11:29:28 AM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 5/23/2016 5:20:31 AM, desmac wrote:
At 5/22/2016 9:09:09 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
Only Christianity has divine command to protect, love, and honor women.

Hinduism? Nope

Budhism? Nope

Islam? Nope

Atheism? Nope

Christianity? Yep

Atheism no divine command to value women.

Atheism=survival of the fittest or strongest.

Atheism=Females are weaker animal of the 2.

Atheism=no moral obligation to protect or value women.

"Atheism's mysogyny problem"

http://www.salon.com...

Atheism's Sexism Problem"

http://www.patheos.com...

"Sexism: Why womenAre Forced to leave Atheism"

http://qz.com...

"Will Mysogyny bring down the Atheist Movement?"

https://www.buzzfeed.com...

1 Peter 3:7 - Likewise, ye husbands, dwell with them according to knowledge, giving honour unto the wife, and as being heirs together of the grace of life; that your prayers be not hindered.

Ephesians 5:33 - Nevertheless let every one of you in particular so love his wife even as himself; and the wife see that she reverence her husband.


(1 Corinthians 7:3-4)
3 Let the husband render unto the wife due benevolence: and likewise also the wife unto the husband.
4 The wife hath not power of her own body, but the husband: and likewise also the husband hath not power of his own body, but the wife.

Ephesians 5:31 - For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and shall be joined unto his wife, and they two shall be one flesh.

Ephesians 5:28 - So ought men to love their wives as their own bodies. He that loveth his wife loveth himself.

(Ephesians 5:25)
Husbands, love your wives, as Christ loved the church and gave himself up for her.

(Colossians 3:19)
Husbands, love your wives, and do not be harsh with them.

(Proverbs 31:10)
An excellent wife who can find? She is far more precious than jewels. The heart of her husband trusts in her, and he will have no lack of gain. She does him good, and not harm, all the days of her life.

(Proverbs 18:22)
He who finds a wife finds a good thing and obtains favor from the Lord.

(Ecclesiastes 9:9)
Enjoy life with the wife whom you love, all the days of your vain life that he has given you under the sun, because that is your portion in life.

(Proverbs 1:8)
Hear, my son, your father's instruction, and forsake not your mother's teaching.

(Colossians 3:19)"
Husbands, love your wives, and do not be harsh with them.

What did the last female pope have to say on this matter?

I'm not Catholic, so the concept is meaningless to me. But I'm sure David Silverman will be stepping down soon to be replaced by a female...

Which cult are you in Craptor?
Wh
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5/23/2016 2:11:26 PM
Posted: 6 months ago
At 5/23/2016 11:44:55 AM, desmac wrote:
At 5/23/2016 11:29:28 AM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 5/23/2016 5:20:31 AM, desmac wrote:
At 5/22/2016 9:09:09 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
Only Christianity has divine command to protect, love, and honor women.

Hinduism? Nope

Budhism? Nope

Islam? Nope

Atheism? Nope

Christianity? Yep

Atheism no divine command to value women.

Atheism=survival of the fittest or strongest.

Atheism=Females are weaker animal of the 2.

Atheism=no moral obligation to protect or value women.

"Atheism's mysogyny problem"

http://www.salon.com...

Atheism's Sexism Problem"

http://www.patheos.com...

"Sexism: Why womenAre Forced to leave Atheism"

http://qz.com...

"Will Mysogyny bring down the Atheist Movement?"

https://www.buzzfeed.com...

1 Peter 3:7 - Likewise, ye husbands, dwell with them according to knowledge, giving honour unto the wife, and as being heirs together of the grace of life; that your prayers be not hindered.

Ephesians 5:33 - Nevertheless let every one of you in particular so love his wife even as himself; and the wife see that she reverence her husband.


(1 Corinthians 7:3-4)
3 Let the husband render unto the wife due benevolence: and likewise also the wife unto the husband.
4 The wife hath not power of her own body, but the husband: and likewise also the husband hath not power of his own body, but the wife.

Ephesians 5:31 - For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and shall be joined unto his wife, and they two shall be one flesh.

Ephesians 5:28 - So ought men to love their wives as their own bodies. He that loveth his wife loveth himself.

(Ephesians 5:25)
Husbands, love your wives, as Christ loved the church and gave himself up for her.

(Colossians 3:19)
Husbands, love your wives, and do not be harsh with them.

(Proverbs 31:10)
An excellent wife who can find? She is far more precious than jewels. The heart of her husband trusts in her, and he will have no lack of gain. She does him good, and not harm, all the days of her life.

(Proverbs 18:22)
He who finds a wife finds a good thing and obtains favor from the Lord.

(Ecclesiastes 9:9)
Enjoy life with the wife whom you love, all the days of your vain life that he has given you under the sun, because that is your portion in life.

(Proverbs 1:8)
Hear, my son, your father's instruction, and forsake not your mother's teaching.

(Colossians 3:19)"
Husbands, love your wives, and do not be harsh with them.

What did the last female pope have to say on this matter?

I'm not Catholic, so the concept is meaningless to me. But I'm sure David Silverman will be stepping down soon to be replaced by a female...

Which cult are you in Craptor?
Wh

The cult that doesn't blindly believe in fairytales such as the fish who crawled out of the water, became a hooved hyena, then became a walking whale, which then crawled BACK into the water and began swimming around after gaining 80,000 pounds, a blowhole, blubber, losing its fur, and its eyes spreading to its side, and growing a fluked tail, all after a complete redefining of bodily systems that would equal billions of transitions neccessary to happen since the Cambrian...which spontaneously and magically popped into existance from nothing...

The cult that realizes atheism believes in the box of finite within nothing while accepting the infinity model, both of which point directly and only to the highest possibly conceivable being whether you use omnipotence outside of reality OR the Darwinian fairytale model. Allpaths lead to the highest conceivable being,the neccessary singularity to satisfy the simple, basic math of it all...
"What Donald Trump is doing is representing the absolute heartbreak, and anger, and frustration at a government gone mad."

http://youtu.be...
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5/23/2016 2:27:47 PM
Posted: 6 months ago
At 5/23/2016 2:11:26 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 5/23/2016 11:44:55 AM, desmac wrote:
At 5/23/2016 11:29:28 AM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 5/23/2016 5:20:31 AM, desmac wrote:
At 5/22/2016 9:09:09 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
Only Christianity has divine command to protect, love, and honor women.

Hinduism? Nope

Budhism? Nope

Islam? Nope

Atheism? Nope

Christianity? Yep

Atheism no divine command to value women.

Atheism=survival of the fittest or strongest.

Atheism=Females are weaker animal of the 2.

Atheism=no moral obligation to protect or value women.

"Atheism's mysogyny problem"

http://www.salon.com...

Atheism's Sexism Problem"

http://www.patheos.com...

"Sexism: Why womenAre Forced to leave Atheism"

http://qz.com...

"Will Mysogyny bring down the Atheist Movement?"

https://www.buzzfeed.com...

1 Peter 3:7 - Likewise, ye husbands, dwell with them according to knowledge, giving honour unto the wife, and as being heirs together of the grace of life; that your prayers be not hindered.

Ephesians 5:33 - Nevertheless let every one of you in particular so love his wife even as himself; and the wife see that she reverence her husband.


(1 Corinthians 7:3-4)
3 Let the husband render unto the wife due benevolence: and likewise also the wife unto the husband.
4 The wife hath not power of her own body, but the husband: and likewise also the husband hath not power of his own body, but the wife.

Ephesians 5:31 - For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and shall be joined unto his wife, and they two shall be one flesh.

Ephesians 5:28 - So ought men to love their wives as their own bodies. He that loveth his wife loveth himself.

(Ephesians 5:25)
Husbands, love your wives, as Christ loved the church and gave himself up for her.

(Colossians 3:19)
Husbands, love your wives, and do not be harsh with them.

(Proverbs 31:10)
An excellent wife who can find? She is far more precious than jewels. The heart of her husband trusts in her, and he will have no lack of gain. She does him good, and not harm, all the days of her life.

(Proverbs 18:22)
He who finds a wife finds a good thing and obtains favor from the Lord.

(Ecclesiastes 9:9)
Enjoy life with the wife whom you love, all the days of your vain life that he has given you under the sun, because that is your portion in life.

(Proverbs 1:8)
Hear, my son, your father's instruction, and forsake not your mother's teaching.

(Colossians 3:19)"
Husbands, love your wives, and do not be harsh with them.

What did the last female pope have to say on this matter?

I'm not Catholic, so the concept is meaningless to me. But I'm sure David Silverman will be stepping down soon to be replaced by a female...

Which cult are you in Craptor?
Wh

The cult that doesn't....

The cult that realizes atheism believes...

Ahhh, so it is a cult!! ;-P
This thread is like eavesdropping on a conversation in a mental asylum. - Bulproof

You can call your invisible friends whatever you like. - Desmac

What the hell kind of coked up sideshow has this thread turned into. - Casten
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5/23/2016 2:30:58 PM
Posted: 6 months ago
At 5/23/2016 2:27:47 PM, Skepticalone wrote:
At 5/23/2016 2:11:26 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 5/23/2016 11:44:55 AM, desmac wrote:
At 5/23/2016 11:29:28 AM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 5/23/2016 5:20:31 AM, desmac wrote:
At 5/22/2016 9:09:09 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
Only Christianity has divine command to protect, love, and honor women.

Hinduism? Nope

Budhism? Nope

Islam? Nope

Atheism? Nope

Christianity? Yep

Atheism no divine command to value women.

Atheism=survival of the fittest or strongest.

Atheism=Females are weaker animal of the 2.

Atheism=no moral obligation to protect or value women.

"Atheism's mysogyny problem"

http://www.salon.com...

Atheism's Sexism Problem"

http://www.patheos.com...

"Sexism: Why womenAre Forced to leave Atheism"

http://qz.com...

"Will Mysogyny bring down the Atheist Movement?"

https://www.buzzfeed.com...

1 Peter 3:7 - Likewise, ye husbands, dwell with them according to knowledge, giving honour unto the wife, and as being heirs together of the grace of life; that your prayers be not hindered.

Ephesians 5:33 - Nevertheless let every one of you in particular so love his wife even as himself; and the wife see that she reverence her husband.


(1 Corinthians 7:3-4)
3 Let the husband render unto the wife due benevolence: and likewise also the wife unto the husband.
4 The wife hath not power of her own body, but the husband: and likewise also the husband hath not power of his own body, but the wife.

Ephesians 5:31 - For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and shall be joined unto his wife, and they two shall be one flesh.

Ephesians 5:28 - So ought men to love their wives as their own bodies. He that loveth his wife loveth himself.

(Ephesians 5:25)
Husbands, love your wives, as Christ loved the church and gave himself up for her.

(Colossians 3:19)
Husbands, love your wives, and do not be harsh with them.

(Proverbs 31:10)
An excellent wife who can find? She is far more precious than jewels. The heart of her husband trusts in her, and he will have no lack of gain. She does him good, and not harm, all the days of her life.

(Proverbs 18:22)
He who finds a wife finds a good thing and obtains favor from the Lord.

(Ecclesiastes 9:9)
Enjoy life with the wife whom you love, all the days of your vain life that he has given you under the sun, because that is your portion in life.

(Proverbs 1:8)
Hear, my son, your father's instruction, and forsake not your mother's teaching.

(Colossians 3:19)"
Husbands, love your wives, and do not be harsh with them.

What did the last female pope have to say on this matter?

I'm not Catholic, so the concept is meaningless to me. But I'm sure David Silverman will be stepping down soon to be replaced by a female...

Which cult are you in Craptor?
Wh

The cult that doesn't....

The cult that realizes atheism believes...

Ahhh, so it is a cult!! ;-P

A cult is only a cult to thos against it. Atheists think everything is a cult by definition. You provided no rebuttle. So you admit atheism has no reason, rule, or logic in giving women any protection or status. They are just a weaker animal correct?
"What Donald Trump is doing is representing the absolute heartbreak, and anger, and frustration at a government gone mad."

http://youtu.be...
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5/23/2016 2:50:02 PM
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At 5/23/2016 5:08:53 AM, bulproof wrote:
At 5/22/2016 9:09:09 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
Only Christianity has divine command to protect, love, and honor incubators.
Fixed that for ya.

Survival of the fittest right bull? Just a weaker animal to you. How do you like them cooked?...in case we get into an apocalyptic fight for survival...
"What Donald Trump is doing is representing the absolute heartbreak, and anger, and frustration at a government gone mad."

http://youtu.be...
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5/23/2016 2:52:15 PM
Posted: 6 months ago
At 5/23/2016 2:30:58 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 5/23/2016 2:27:47 PM, Skepticalone wrote:
At 5/23/2016 2:11:26 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 5/23/2016 11:44:55 AM, desmac wrote:
At 5/23/2016 11:29:28 AM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 5/23/2016 5:20:31 AM, desmac wrote:
At 5/22/2016 9:09:09 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
Only Christianity has divine command to protect, love, and honor women.

Hinduism? Nope

Budhism? Nope

Islam? Nope

Atheism? Nope

Christianity? Yep

Atheism no divine command to value women.

Atheism=survival of the fittest or strongest.

Atheism=Females are weaker animal of the 2.

Atheism=no moral obligation to protect or value women.

"Atheism's mysogyny problem"

http://www.salon.com...

Atheism's Sexism Problem"

http://www.patheos.com...

"Sexism: Why womenAre Forced to leave Atheism"

http://qz.com...

"Will Mysogyny bring down the Atheist Movement?"

https://www.buzzfeed.com...

1 Peter 3:7 - Likewise, ye husbands, dwell with them according to knowledge, giving honour unto the wife, and as being heirs together of the grace of life; that your prayers be not hindered.

Ephesians 5:33 - Nevertheless let every one of you in particular so love his wife even as himself; and the wife see that she reverence her husband.


(1 Corinthians 7:3-4)
3 Let the husband render unto the wife due benevolence: and likewise also the wife unto the husband.
4 The wife hath not power of her own body, but the husband: and likewise also the husband hath not power of his own body, but the wife.

Ephesians 5:31 - For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and shall be joined unto his wife, and they two shall be one flesh.

Ephesians 5:28 - So ought men to love their wives as their own bodies. He that loveth his wife loveth himself.

(Ephesians 5:25)
Husbands, love your wives, as Christ loved the church and gave himself up for her.

(Colossians 3:19)
Husbands, love your wives, and do not be harsh with them.

(Proverbs 31:10)
An excellent wife who can find? She is far more precious than jewels. The heart of her husband trusts in her, and he will have no lack of gain. She does him good, and not harm, all the days of her life.

(Proverbs 18:22)
He who finds a wife finds a good thing and obtains favor from the Lord.

(Ecclesiastes 9:9)
Enjoy life with the wife whom you love, all the days of your vain life that he has given you under the sun, because that is your portion in life.

(Proverbs 1:8)
Hear, my son, your father's instruction, and forsake not your mother's teaching.

(Colossians 3:19)"
Husbands, love your wives, and do not be harsh with them.

What did the last female pope have to say on this matter?

I'm not Catholic, so the concept is meaningless to me. But I'm sure David Silverman will be stepping down soon to be replaced by a female...

Which cult are you in Craptor?
Wh

The cult that doesn't....

The cult that realizes atheism believes...

Ahhh, so it is a cult!! ;-P

A cult is only a cult to thos against it.

You've explicitly called your group a cult, so apparently it's not just those against your group that feel that way. ;-)

Atheists think everything is a cult by definition.

No...no, they don't. Some might, but that wouldn't be all atheists, now would it?

You provided no rebuttle.

Actually, I have (provided *rebuttal*) in other threads. I can't help if you have an amazingly short memory!

So you admit atheism has no reason, rule, or logic in giving women any protection or status. They are just a weaker animal correct?

Speaking of 'no reply':

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5/23/2016 4:12:50 PM
Posted: 6 months ago
At 5/23/2016 2:11:26 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 5/23/2016 11:44:55 AM, desmac wrote:
At 5/23/2016 11:29:28 AM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 5/23/2016 5:20:31 AM, desmac wrote:
At 5/22/2016 9:09:09 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
Only Christianity has divine command to protect, love, and honor women.

Hinduism? Nope

Budhism? Nope

Islam? Nope

Atheism? Nope

Christianity? Yep

Atheism no divine command to value women.

Atheism=survival of the fittest or strongest.

Atheism=Females are weaker animal of the 2.

Atheism=no moral obligation to protect or value women.

"Atheism's mysogyny problem"

http://www.salon.com...

Atheism's Sexism Problem"

http://www.patheos.com...

"Sexism: Why womenAre Forced to leave Atheism"

http://qz.com...

"Will Mysogyny bring down the Atheist Movement?"

https://www.buzzfeed.com...

1 Peter 3:7 - Likewise, ye husbands, dwell with them according to knowledge, giving honour unto the wife, and as being heirs together of the grace of life; that your prayers be not hindered.

Ephesians 5:33 - Nevertheless let every one of you in particular so love his wife even as himself; and the wife see that she reverence her husband.


(1 Corinthians 7:3-4)
3 Let the husband render unto the wife due benevolence: and likewise also the wife unto the husband.
4 The wife hath not power of her own body, but the husband: and likewise also the husband hath not power of his own body, but the wife.

Ephesians 5:31 - For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and shall be joined unto his wife, and they two shall be one flesh.

Ephesians 5:28 - So ought men to love their wives as their own bodies. He that loveth his wife loveth himself.

(Ephesians 5:25)
Husbands, love your wives, as Christ loved the church and gave himself up for her.

(Colossians 3:19)
Husbands, love your wives, and do not be harsh with them.

(Proverbs 31:10)
An excellent wife who can find? She is far more precious than jewels. The heart of her husband trusts in her, and he will have no lack of gain. She does him good, and not harm, all the days of her life.

(Proverbs 18:22)
He who finds a wife finds a good thing and obtains favor from the Lord.

(Ecclesiastes 9:9)
Enjoy life with the wife whom you love, all the days of your vain life that he has given you under the sun, because that is your portion in life.

(Proverbs 1:8)
Hear, my son, your father's instruction, and forsake not your mother's teaching.

(Colossians 3:19)"
Husbands, love your wives, and do not be harsh with them.

What did the last female pope have to say on this matter?

I'm not Catholic, so the concept is meaningless to me. But I'm sure David Silverman will be stepping down soon to be replaced by a female...

Which cult are you in Craptor?
Wh

The cult that doesn't blindly believe in fairytales such as the fish who crawled out of the water, became a hooved hyena, then became a walking whale, which then crawled BACK into the water and began swimming around after gaining 80,000 pounds, a blowhole, blubber, losing its fur, and its eyes spreading to its side, and growing a fluked tail, all after a complete redefining of bodily systems that would equal billions of transitions neccessary to happen since the Cambrian...which spontaneously and magically popped into existance from nothing...

The cult that realizes atheism believes in the box of finite within nothing while accepting the infinity model, both of which point directly and only to the highest possibly conceivable being whether you use omnipotence outside of reality OR the Darwinian fairytale model. Allpaths lead to the highest conceivable being,the neccessary singularity to satisfy the simple, basic math of it all...

Craptor, are you too ashamed to admit to which particular cult you belong?
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5/23/2016 5:50:13 PM
Posted: 6 months ago
At 5/22/2016 9:09:09 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
Only Christianity has divine command to protect, love, and honor women.

"Now kill all the boys and all the women who have slept with a man. Only the young girls who are virgins may live; you may keep them for yourselves." Numbers 31

That was a direct quote by Moses, God's prophet and mouthpiece. The bible directly justifies kidnapping and rape of women.

Sounds like an idea for a new Mel Gibson love story movie. The trailer goes like this:

(In deep voice)
From Mel Gibson....
One young girl...
One man...
A heart warming story of true Christian love..

14 year old girl is gathering food in the fields with her mother and brother. Strange men rush out of the woods and surround them. They hack the brother and mother to death. The 14 year old girl notices that one of the men that is hacking at her mother is handsome. The marauder notices the emerging curves on the 14 year old girl's body, kidnaps her and says she must marry him if she doesn't want to be killed. "Yes! Yes! A thousand times yes!", she exclaims and they live happily ever after.
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5/23/2016 5:57:23 PM
Posted: 6 months ago
At 5/23/2016 5:50:13 PM, matt8800 wrote:
At 5/22/2016 9:09:09 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
Only Christianity has divine command to protect, love, and honor women.


"Now kill all the boys and all the women who have slept with a man. Only the young girls who are virgins may live; you may keep them for yourselves." Numbers 31

That was a direct quote by Moses, God's prophet and mouthpiece. The bible directly justifies kidnapping and rape of women.

Sounds like an idea for a new Mel Gibson love story movie. The trailer goes like this:

(In deep voice)
From Mel Gibson....
One young girl...
One man...
A heart warming story of true Christian love..

14 year old girl is gathering food in the fields with her mother and brother. Strange men rush out of the woods and surround them. They hack the brother and mother to death. The 14 year old girl notices that one of the men that is hacking at her mother is handsome. The marauder notices the emerging curves on the 14 year old girl's body, kidnaps her and says she must marry him if she doesn't want to be killed. "Yes! Yes! A thousand times yes!", she exclaims and they live happily ever after.

Men controlled the world with full dominion. So what were these women's men like? Ahem...context...

So why did He command that...
"What Donald Trump is doing is representing the absolute heartbreak, and anger, and frustration at a government gone mad."

http://youtu.be...
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5/23/2016 6:26:00 PM
Posted: 6 months ago
At 5/23/2016 5:57:23 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 5/23/2016 5:50:13 PM, matt8800 wrote:
At 5/22/2016 9:09:09 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
Only Christianity has divine command to protect, love, and honor women.


"Now kill all the boys and all the women who have slept with a man. Only the young girls who are virgins may live; you may keep them for yourselves." Numbers 31

That was a direct quote by Moses, God's prophet and mouthpiece. The bible directly justifies kidnapping and rape of women.

Sounds like an idea for a new Mel Gibson love story movie. The trailer goes like this:

(In deep voice)
From Mel Gibson....
One young girl...
One man...
A heart warming story of true Christian love..

14 year old girl is gathering food in the fields with her mother and brother. Strange men rush out of the woods and surround them. They hack the brother and mother to death. The 14 year old girl notices that one of the men that is hacking at her mother is handsome. The marauder notices the emerging curves on the 14 year old girl's body, kidnaps her and says she must marry him if she doesn't want to be killed. "Yes! Yes! A thousand times yes!", she exclaims and they live happily ever after.

Men controlled the world with full dominion. So what were these women's men like? Ahem...context...

If you are talking about the Israelites, I already told you. They kidnapped the virgins, killed their families and raped the virgins. If you are saying Christians think they are good people doing good things for the benefit of the virgins they raped, it is proof that Christianity is just a sick cult.

So why did He command that...

Because historically men enjoyed raping women of the people they plunder. Moses was keeping his troops happy. If American soldiers were kidnapping and raping girls in the middle east, you would claim the good Christians are simply doing their Christian duty to help those poor girls.
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5/23/2016 7:45:36 PM
Posted: 6 months ago
At 5/23/2016 6:26:00 PM, matt8800 wrote:
At 5/23/2016 5:57:23 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 5/23/2016 5:50:13 PM, matt8800 wrote:
At 5/22/2016 9:09:09 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
Only Christianity has divine command to protect, love, and honor women.


"Now kill all the boys and all the women who have slept with a man. Only the young girls who are virgins may live; you may keep them for yourselves." Numbers 31

That was a direct quote by Moses, God's prophet and mouthpiece. The bible directly justifies kidnapping and rape of women.

Sounds like an idea for a new Mel Gibson love story movie. The trailer goes like this:

(In deep voice)
From Mel Gibson....
One young girl...
One man...
A heart warming story of true Christian love..

14 year old girl is gathering food in the fields with her mother and brother. Strange men rush out of the woods and surround them. They hack the brother and mother to death. The 14 year old girl notices that one of the men that is hacking at her mother is handsome. The marauder notices the emerging curves on the 14 year old girl's body, kidnaps her and says she must marry him if she doesn't want to be killed. "Yes! Yes! A thousand times yes!", she exclaims and they live happily ever after.

Men controlled the world with full dominion. So what were these women's men like? Ahem...context...

If you are talking about the Israelites, I already told you. They kidnapped the virgins, killed their families and raped the virgins. If you are saying Christians think they are good people doing good things for the benefit of the virgins they raped, it is proof that Christianity is just a sick cult.

So why did He command that...

Because historically men enjoyed raping women of the people they plunder. Moses was keeping his troops happy. If American soldiers were kidnapping and raping girls in the middle east, you would claim the good Christians are simply doing their Christian duty to help those poor girls.

Nope. You didn't read the story. You tossed out a baseless assertion. If I were to guess you looked on an antichristian site, found a concept, copied, pasted, and began to peacock about a point that you hadn't actually studied. It's similar to the assertion that was presentedto me earlier by an Atheist:

The Bible contradicts itself. "In Romans 2:11 it says God shows no favortism!" Which ignored Romans 2:10 which states who He actually "shows no favortism" towards...

But I guess that's the Atheist style.
"What Donald Trump is doing is representing the absolute heartbreak, and anger, and frustration at a government gone mad."

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5/23/2016 7:56:58 PM
Posted: 6 months ago
At 5/23/2016 6:26:00 PM, matt8800 wrote:
At 5/23/2016 5:57:23 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 5/23/2016 5:50:13 PM, matt8800 wrote:
At 5/22/2016 9:09:09 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
Only Christianity has divine command to protect, love, and honor women.


"Now kill all the boys and all the women who have slept with a man. Only the young girls who are virgins may live; you may keep them for yourselves." Numbers 31

That was a direct quote by Moses, God's prophet and mouthpiece. The bible directly justifies kidnapping and rape of women.

Sounds like an idea for a new Mel Gibson love story movie. The trailer goes like this:

(In deep voice)
From Mel Gibson....
One young girl...
One man...
A heart warming story of true Christian love..

14 year old girl is gathering food in the fields with her mother and brother. Strange men rush out of the woods and surround them. They hack the brother and mother to death. The 14 year old girl notices that one of the men that is hacking at her mother is handsome. The marauder notices the emerging curves on the 14 year old girl's body, kidnaps her and says she must marry him if she doesn't want to be killed. "Yes! Yes! A thousand times yes!", she exclaims and they live happily ever after.

Men controlled the world with full dominion. So what were these women's men like? Ahem...context...

If you are talking about the Israelites, I already told you. They kidnapped the virgins, killed their families and raped the virgins. If you are saying Christians think they are good people doing good things for the benefit of the virgins they raped, it is proof that Christianity is just a sick cult.

So why did He command that...

Because historically men enjoyed raping women of the people they plunder. Moses was keeping his troops happy. If American soldiers were kidnapping and raping girls in the middle east, you would claim the good Christians are simply doing their Christian duty to help those poor girls.

I'll help you out since you prefer to not actually read the Bible, only attack it. In the story the women are the perpetrators of the plight of the Israelites. Moles, espionage, purposeful destructors. The command was to destrpy them, but since young girls could still be tsught better they were to survive. If I said "Well maybe one day this little girl will be able to marry a fine American man," I have never said she is to be raped. This is what you are doing in your baseless rant of hate.
"What Donald Trump is doing is representing the absolute heartbreak, and anger, and frustration at a government gone mad."

http://youtu.be...
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5/23/2016 8:04:36 PM
Posted: 6 months ago
At 5/23/2016 7:56:58 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 5/23/2016 6:26:00 PM, matt8800 wrote:
At 5/23/2016 5:57:23 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 5/23/2016 5:50:13 PM, matt8800 wrote:
At 5/22/2016 9:09:09 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
Only Christianity has divine command to protect, love, and honor women.


"Now kill all the boys and all the women who have slept with a man. Only the young girls who are virgins may live; you may keep them for yourselves." Numbers 31

That was a direct quote by Moses, God's prophet and mouthpiece. The bible directly justifies kidnapping and rape of women.

Sounds like an idea for a new Mel Gibson love story movie. The trailer goes like this:

(In deep voice)
From Mel Gibson....
One young girl...
One man...
A heart warming story of true Christian love..

14 year old girl is gathering food in the fields with her mother and brother. Strange men rush out of the woods and surround them. They hack the brother and mother to death. The 14 year old girl notices that one of the men that is hacking at her mother is handsome. The marauder notices the emerging curves on the 14 year old girl's body, kidnaps her and says she must marry him if she doesn't want to be killed. "Yes! Yes! A thousand times yes!", she exclaims and they live happily ever after.

Men controlled the world with full dominion. So what were these women's men like? Ahem...context...

If you are talking about the Israelites, I already told you. They kidnapped the virgins, killed their families and raped the virgins. If you are saying Christians think they are good people doing good things for the benefit of the virgins they raped, it is proof that Christianity is just a sick cult.

So why did He command that...

Because historically men enjoyed raping women of the people they plunder. Moses was keeping his troops happy. If American soldiers were kidnapping and raping girls in the middle east, you would claim the good Christians are simply doing their Christian duty to help those poor girls.

I'll help you out since you prefer to not actually read the Bible, only attack it. In the story the women are the perpetrators of the plight of the Israelites. Moles, espionage, purposeful destructors. The command was to destrpy them, but since young girls could still be tsught better they were to survive. If I said "Well maybe one day this little girl will be able to marry a fine American man," I have never said she is to be raped. This is what you are doing in your baseless rant of hate.

So, according to the Christian perspective, it is justifiable to kill the neighboring peoples for (insert justification here) and the warring men can keep the young virgins for themselves? Do you suggest we do this in Afghanistan?

Only a Christian would call condemnation of rape a baseless rant of hate.
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5/23/2016 8:25:33 PM
Posted: 6 months ago
At 5/23/2016 8:04:36 PM, matt8800 wrote:
At 5/23/2016 7:56:58 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
i: At 5/23/2016 6:26:00 PM, matt8800 wrote:
At 5/23/2016 5:57:23 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 5/23/2016 5:50:13 PM, matt8800 wrote:
At 5/22/2016 9:09:09 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
Only Christianity has divine command to protect, love, and honor women.


"Now kill all the boys and all the women who have slept with a man. Only the young girls who are virgins may live; you may keep them for yourselves." Numbers 31

That was a direct quote by Moses, God's prophet and mouthpiece. The bible directly justifies kidnapping and rape of women.

Sounds like an idea for a new Mel Gibson love story movie. The trailer goes like this:

(In deep voice)
From Mel Gibson....
One young girl...
One man...
A heart warming story of true Christian love..

14 year old girl is gathering food in the fields with her mother and brother. Strange men rush out of the woods and surround them. They hack the brother and mother to death. The 14 year old girl notices that one of the men that is hacking at her mother is handsome. The marauder notices the emerging curves on the 14 year old girl's body, kidnaps her and says she must marry him if she doesn't want to be killed. "Yes! Yes! A thousand times yes!", she exclaims and they live happily ever after.

Men controlled the world with full dominion. So what were these women's men like? Ahem...context...

If you are talking about the Israelites, I already told you. They kidnapped the virgins, killed their families and raped the virgins. If you are saying Christians think they are good people doing good things for the benefit of the virgins they raped, it is proof that Christianity is just a sick cult.

So why did He command that...

Because historically men enjoyed raping women of the people they plunder. Moses was keeping his troops happy. If American soldiers were kidnapping and raping girls in the middle east, you would claim the good Christians are simply doing their Christian duty to help those poor girls.

I'll help you out since you prefer to not actually read the Bible, only attack it. In the story the women are the perpetrators of the plight of the Israelites. Moles, espionage, purposeful destructors. The command was to destrpy them, but since young girls could still be tsught better they were to survive. If I said "Well maybe one day this little girl will be able to marry a fine American man," I have never said she is to be raped. This is what you are doing in your baseless rant of hate.

So, according to the Christian perspective, it is justifiable to kill the neighboring peoples for (insert justification here) and the warring men can keep the young virgins for themselves? Do you suggest we do this in Afghanistan?

Only a Christian would call condemnation of rape a baseless rant of hate.

Slander, Libel, and falsifying stories is a rant of hate, yes.

Was it baseless to kill the Nazis during WWII? There's a difference between defending yourself and being aggressor on an innocent victim. There enemies were bloid thristy savages hell bent on their destruction. If you kill a wasp, do you not destroy the nest...do you just let them regroup and attack again? No. That'd be Barack Obama.
"What Donald Trump is doing is representing the absolute heartbreak, and anger, and frustration at a government gone mad."

http://youtu.be...
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5/23/2016 8:29:43 PM
Posted: 6 months ago
At 5/23/2016 8:04:36 PM, matt8800 wrote:
At 5/23/2016 7:56:58 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 5/23/2016 6:26:00 PM, matt8800 wrote:
At 5/23/2016 5:57:23 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 5/23/2016 5:50:13 PM, matt8800 wrote:
At 5/22/2016 9:09:09 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
Only Christianity has divine command to protect, love, and honor women.


"Now kill all the boys and all the women who have slept with a man. Only the young girls who are virgins may live; you may keep them for yourselves." Numbers 31

That was a direct quote by Moses, God's prophet and mouthpiece. The bible directly justifies kidnapping and rape of women.

Sounds like an idea for a new Mel Gibson love story movie. The trailer goes like this:

(In deep voice)
From Mel Gibson....
One young girl...
One man...
A heart warming story of true Christian love..

14 year old girl is gathering food in the fields with her mother and brother. Strange men rush out of the woods and surround them. They hack the brother and mother to death. The 14 year old girl notices that one of the men that is hacking at her mother is handsome. The marauder notices the emerging curves on the 14 year old girl's body, kidnaps her and says she must marry him if she doesn't want to be killed. "Yes! Yes! A thousand times yes!", she exclaims and they live happily ever after.

Men controlled the world with full dominion. So what were these women's men like? Ahem...context...

If you are talking about the Israelites, I already told you. They kidnapped the virgins, killed their families and raped the virgins. If you are saying Christians think they are good people doing good things for the benefit of the virgins they raped, it is proof that Christianity is just a sick cult.

So why did He command that...

Because historically men enjoyed raping women of the people they plunder. Moses was keeping his troops happy. If American soldiers were kidnapping and raping girls in the middle east, you would claim the good Christians are simply doing their Christian duty to help those poor girls.

I'll help you out since you prefer to not actually read the Bible, only attack it. In the story the women are the perpetrators of the plight of the Israelites. Moles, espionage, purposeful destructors. The command was to destrpy them, but since young girls could still be tsught better they were to survive. If I said "Well maybe one day this little girl will be able to marry a fine American man," I have never said she is to be raped. This is what you are doing in your baseless rant of hate.

So, according to the Christian perspective, it is justifiable to kill the neighboring peoples for (insert justification here) and the warring men can keep the young virgins for themselves? Do you suggest we do this in Afghanistan?

Only a Christian would call condemnation of rape a baseless rant of hate.

Remember the parable of the seed with shallow roots Matt? Plucked up by its own choice.
"What Donald Trump is doing is representing the absolute heartbreak, and anger, and frustration at a government gone mad."

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5/23/2016 9:12:41 PM
Posted: 6 months ago
At 5/23/2016 7:56:58 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 5/23/2016 6:26:00 PM, matt8800 wrote:
At 5/23/2016 5:57:23 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 5/23/2016 5:50:13 PM, matt8800 wrote:
At 5/22/2016 9:09:09 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
Only Christianity has divine command to protect, love, and honor women.


"Now kill all the boys and all the women who have slept with a man. Only the young girls who are virgins may live; you may keep them for yourselves." Numbers 31

According to Dt 21:10-14, these captive women had a month to mourn their family before anyone could take them as a wife and mount them...er..."go in unto her". Notice how this edict outlines no right for the woman to refuse marriage or sex? The authority of man over woman is presupposed by the author. So, while you may be able to claim the half-truth, "Christianity values women", you cannot claim Christianity values men and women equally, and that, sir, is misogyny.

Deuteronomy 21:10-14
10 "When you go out to battle against your enemies, and the Lord your God delivers them into your hands and you take them away captive, 11 and see among the captives a beautiful woman, and have a desire for her and would take her as a wife for yourself, 12 then you shall bring her home to your house, and she shall shave her head and [a]trim her nails. 13 She shall also [b]remove the clothes of her captivity and shall remain in your house, and mourn her father and mother a full month; and after that you may go in to her and be her husband and she shall be your wife. 14 It shall be, if you are not pleased with her, then you shall let her go [c]wherever she wishes; but you shall certainly not sell her for money, you shall not [d]mistreat her, because you have humbled her.
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What the hell kind of coked up sideshow has this thread turned into. - Casten
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5/23/2016 10:20:35 PM
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There are probably a million different religions out there. It is unlikely that Christianityvis the only one that values women. What about ISIS worship?
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5/23/2016 10:31:16 PM
Posted: 6 months ago
At 5/23/2016 8:29:43 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 5/23/2016 8:04:36 PM, matt8800 wrote:
At 5/23/2016 7:56:58 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 5/23/2016 6:26:00 PM, matt8800 wrote:
At 5/23/2016 5:57:23 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 5/23/2016 5:50:13 PM, matt8800 wrote:
At 5/22/2016 9:09:09 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
Only Christianity has divine command to protect, love, and honor women.


"Now kill all the boys and all the women who have slept with a man. Only the young girls who are virgins may live; you may keep them for yourselves." Numbers 31

That was a direct quote by Moses, God's prophet and mouthpiece. The bible directly justifies kidnapping and rape of women.

Sounds like an idea for a new Mel Gibson love story movie. The trailer goes like this:

(In deep voice)
From Mel Gibson....
One young girl...
One man...
A heart warming story of true Christian love..

14 year old girl is gathering food in the fields with her mother and brother. Strange men rush out of the woods and surround them. They hack the brother and mother to death. The 14 year old girl notices that one of the men that is hacking at her mother is handsome. The marauder notices the emerging curves on the 14 year old girl's body, kidnaps her and says she must marry him if she doesn't want to be killed. "Yes! Yes! A thousand times yes!", she exclaims and they live happily ever after.

Men controlled the world with full dominion. So what were these women's men like? Ahem...context...

If you are talking about the Israelites, I already told you. They kidnapped the virgins, killed their families and raped the virgins. If you are saying Christians think they are good people doing good things for the benefit of the virgins they raped, it is proof that Christianity is just a sick cult.

So why did He command that...

Because historically men enjoyed raping women of the people they plunder. Moses was keeping his troops happy. If American soldiers were kidnapping and raping girls in the middle east, you would claim the good Christians are simply doing their Christian duty to help those poor girls.

I'll help you out since you prefer to not actually read the Bible, only attack it. In the story the women are the perpetrators of the plight of the Israelites. Moles, espionage, purposeful destructors. The command was to destrpy them, but since young girls could still be tsught better they were to survive. If I said "Well maybe one day this little girl will be able to marry a fine American man," I have never said she is to be raped. This is what you are doing in your baseless rant of hate.

So, according to the Christian perspective, it is justifiable to kill the neighboring peoples for (insert justification here) and the warring men can keep the young virgins for themselves? Do you suggest we do this in Afghanistan?

Only a Christian would call condemnation of rape a baseless rant of hate.

Remember the parable of the seed with shallow roots Matt? Plucked up by its own choice.

Yeah, that's in the same book that says a man is godly if he intends to stab his son to death and burn his body in an act of human sacrifice. That would the last place I would look for moral guidance.
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5/23/2016 10:51:29 PM
Posted: 6 months ago
At 5/23/2016 10:31:16 PM, matt8800 wrote:
At 5/23/2016 8:29:43 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 5/23/2016 8:04:36 PM, matt8800 wrote:
At 5/23/2016 7:56:58 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 5/23/2016 6:26:00 PM, matt8800 wrote:
At 5/23/2016 5:57:23 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 5/23/2016 5:50:13 PM, matt8800 wrote:
At 5/22/2016 9:09:09 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
Only Christianity has divine command to protect, love, and honor women.


"Now kill all the boys and all the women who have slept with a man. Only the young girls who are virgins may live; you may keep them for yourselves." Numbers 31

That was a direct quote by Moses, God's prophet and mouthpiece. The bible directly justifies kidnapping and rape of women.

Sounds like an idea for a new Mel Gibson love story movie. The trailer goes like this:

(In deep voice)
From Mel Gibson....
One young girl...
One man...
A heart warming story of true Christian love..

14 year old girl is gathering food in the fields with her mother and brother. Strange men rush out of the woods and surround them. They hack the brother and mother to death. The 14 year old girl notices that one of the men that is hacking at her mother is handsome. The marauder notices the emerging curves on the 14 year old girl's body, kidnaps her and says she must marry him if she doesn't want to be killed. "Yes! Yes! A thousand times yes!", she exclaims and they live happily ever after.

Men controlled the world with full dominion. So what were these women's men like? Ahem...context...

If you are talking about the Israelites, I already told you. They kidnapped the virgins, killed their families and raped the virgins. If you are saying Christians think they are good people doing good things for the benefit of the virgins they raped, it is proof that Christianity is just a sick cult.

So why did He command that...

Because historically men enjoyed raping women of the people they plunder. Moses was keeping his troops happy. If American soldiers were kidnapping and raping girls in the middle east, you would claim the good Christians are simply doing their Christian duty to help those poor girls.

I'll help you out since you prefer to not actually read the Bible, only attack it. In the story the women are the perpetrators of the plight of the Israelites. Moles, espionage, purposeful destructors. The command was to destrpy them, but since young girls could still be tsught better they were to survive. If I said "Well maybe one day this little girl will be able to marry a fine American man," I have never said she is to be raped. This is what you are doing in your baseless rant of hate.

So, according to the Christian perspective, it is justifiable to kill the neighboring peoples for (insert justification here) and the warring men can keep the young virgins for themselves? Do you suggest we do this in Afghanistan?

Only a Christian would call condemnation of rape a baseless rant of hate.

Remember the parable of the seed with shallow roots Matt? Plucked up by its own choice.

Yeah, that's in the same book that says a man is godly if he intends to stab his son to death and burn his body in an act of human sacrifice. That would the last place I would look for moral guidance.

So who was sacrificed? Let's see if you know. Sadly, you rejected your faith without actually knowing the Bible. I'll wait.
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5/23/2016 11:03:06 PM
Posted: 6 months ago
At 5/23/2016 10:51:29 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 5/23/2016 10:31:16 PM, matt8800 wrote:
At 5/23/2016 8:29:43 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 5/23/2016 8:04:36 PM, matt8800 wrote:
At 5/23/2016 7:56:58 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 5/23/2016 6:26:00 PM, matt8800 wrote:
At 5/23/2016 5:57:23 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 5/23/2016 5:50:13 PM, matt8800 wrote:
At 5/22/2016 9:09:09 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
Only Christianity has divine command to protect, love, and honor women.


"Now kill all the boys and all the women who have slept with a man. Only the young girls who are virgins may live; you may keep them for yourselves." Numbers 31

That was a direct quote by Moses, God's prophet and mouthpiece. The bible directly justifies kidnapping and rape of women.

Sounds like an idea for a new Mel Gibson love story movie. The trailer goes like this:

(In deep voice)
From Mel Gibson....
One young girl...
One man...
A heart warming story of true Christian love..

14 year old girl is gathering food in the fields with her mother and brother. Strange men rush out of the woods and surround them. They hack the brother and mother to death. The 14 year old girl notices that one of the men that is hacking at her mother is handsome. The marauder notices the emerging curves on the 14 year old girl's body, kidnaps her and says she must marry him if she doesn't want to be killed. "Yes! Yes! A thousand times yes!", she exclaims and they live happily ever after.

Men controlled the world with full dominion. So what were these women's men like? Ahem...context...

If you are talking about the Israelites, I already told you. They kidnapped the virgins, killed their families and raped the virgins. If you are saying Christians think they are good people doing good things for the benefit of the virgins they raped, it is proof that Christianity is just a sick cult.

So why did He command that...

Because historically men enjoyed raping women of the people they plunder. Moses was keeping his troops happy. If American soldiers were kidnapping and raping girls in the middle east, you would claim the good Christians are simply doing their Christian duty to help those poor girls.

I'll help you out since you prefer to not actually read the Bible, only attack it. In the story the women are the perpetrators of the plight of the Israelites. Moles, espionage, purposeful destructors. The command was to destrpy them, but since young girls could still be tsught better they were to survive. If I said "Well maybe one day this little girl will be able to marry a fine American man," I have never said she is to be raped. This is what you are doing in your baseless rant of hate.

So, according to the Christian perspective, it is justifiable to kill the neighboring peoples for (insert justification here) and the warring men can keep the young virgins for themselves? Do you suggest we do this in Afghanistan?

Only a Christian would call condemnation of rape a baseless rant of hate.

Remember the parable of the seed with shallow roots Matt? Plucked up by its own choice.

Yeah, that's in the same book that says a man is godly if he intends to stab his son to death and burn his body in an act of human sacrifice. That would the last place I would look for moral guidance.

So who was sacrificed? Let's see if you know. Sadly, you rejected your faith without actually knowing the Bible. I'll wait.

He was intending on killing and burning his sons body in human sacrifice before god said, "Just joking!".

If its such a great moral example, maybe more Christian fathers should tell their sons to stab their puppies to death and then burn them as a test of their love. Then they could tell them they were just kidding right before they did it.

Ahhh...what a heartwarming story. All this Christian goodness makes me feel all warm and fuzzy.
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5/23/2016 11:19:48 PM
Posted: 6 months ago
At 5/22/2016 9:09:09 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
Only Christianity has divine command to protect, love, and honor women.
...as chattels.
Oh wait, Islam, Hinduism and orthodox Judaism have that too, as did ancient Roman paganism.

In other words, Christian doctrinal morality toward women looks like the same benighted thought to be found throughout the world that birthed it.
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5/23/2016 11:24:45 PM
Posted: 6 months ago
At 5/23/2016 11:19:48 PM, RuvDraba wrote:
At 5/22/2016 9:09:09 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
Only Christianity has divine command to protect, love, and honor women.
...as chattels.
Oh wait, Islam, Hinduism and orthodox Judaism have that too, as did ancient Roman paganism.

In other words, Christian doctrinal morality toward women looks like the same benighted thought to be found throughout the world that birthed it.

Wow! Look at that! The model of atheistic debate that I just posed to Matt. No chapter. No verse. Just blind assertions right Ruv? Of course we know the atheist version of females. Simply weaker animals. Rape, poop, eat, right Ruv. Isn't that your lack of being religious model/
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5/23/2016 11:40:13 PM
Posted: 6 months ago
At 5/23/2016 11:24:45 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 5/23/2016 11:19:48 PM, RuvDraba wrote:
At 5/22/2016 9:09:09 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
Only Christianity has divine command to protect, love, and honor women.
...as chattels.
Oh wait, Islam, Hinduism and orthodox Judaism have that too, as did ancient Roman paganism.

In other words, Christian doctrinal morality toward women looks like the same benighted thought to be found throughout the world that birthed it.

Wow! Look at that! The model of atheistic debate that I just posed to Matt. No chapter. No verse.
As a claim it'd be easy to refute, Bronto, just as I frequently refute your non-facts about science and history. Please show any of the following:

1) A place in the Bible that says a woman is man's equal, and entitled to identical privileges; OR
2) Any part of the Bible that says a women is entitled to inherit and own property; to an education in literacy or numeracy; to her choice of husband; to refuse sex in marriage; to vote, govern, administer and sit on a jury; to her own choice of religion; to disobey a father or husband; and that she need not submit to a patriarch's will; OR
3) Any Christian tradition dating from the early Church that has consistently upheld these rights as implicit in scriptural interpretation.

If you can't, then you acknowledge that the Bible has kept women subordinate; never acknowledged her rights to autonomy; that Christians history has gleefully kept women as chattels; and that you yourself do not believe this is inadequate and should be improved.

Just blind assertions right Ruv?
Hardly blind. You know very well it's evidenced in both doctrine and tradition. You're just engaged in dishonest time-wasting.

Of course we know the atheist version of females.
There is no 'atheist version of females', since there is neither atheist doctrine nor tradition. However secular and irreligious traditions eliminate most religious objections to female equality, and the benefits of this are seen throughout the developed world.

I'm aware that as your knowledge of history is weak, you may not be aware of evidence of that but if you want it, feel free to first admit you cannot supply evidence of 1-3, and then ask me for examples of how secularism has helped women.