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RFD: Anselm"s Ontological Argument

kasmic
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6/6/2016 7:03:12 PM
Posted: 6 months ago
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RFD: Anselm"s Ontological Argument for God is Sound

It seems to me that Pro has the BOP as they instigated and are making a positive claim. Going into this debate with this understanding I expect from pro to present the argument and then justify it to demonstrate it is sound. This does not happen in any significant way. Pro merely presents the argument with little to no support in the first round. I would also like to add that much of this debate was off topic from both sides.

Con argues two things that seem relevant to this debate. First, he argues that experience is how we discover truth. This undermines Anselm"s argument as it is based on rationalism not empiricism. In my opinion pro sufficiently addresses this in round three providing examples of rationalism. The second thing con argues is against the first premise of Pro"s argument. He states in the final round "My objection to this premise has been that it is not a conceptual truth that God is a being than which none greater can be conceived, because that definition is not based on any observed facts. It is not a conceptual truth, it is only an expression of emotion." While, I think pro did enough to defend the concept of rationalism, I do not think enough was done to justify the definition of God.

Thus, at the end of the debate, I have the first premise negated which is enough to stop Pro from meeting their BOP. Ergo I vote Con. On a side note, I have done some study on this topic myself and found this video to be useful. https://www.youtube.com...
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6/7/2016 12:10:06 PM
Posted: 6 months ago
At 6/6/2016 7:03:12 PM, kasmic wrote:
This vote is on behalf of the VU for this debate. http://www.debate.org...

RFD: Anselm"s Ontological Argument for God is Sound

It seems to me that Pro has the BOP as they instigated and are making a positive claim. Going into this debate with this understanding I expect from pro to present the argument and then justify it to demonstrate it is sound. This does not happen in any significant way. Pro merely presents the argument with little to no support in the first round. I would also like to add that much of this debate was off topic from both sides.

Con argues two things that seem relevant to this debate. First, he argues that experience is how we discover truth. This undermines Anselm"s argument as it is based on rationalism not empiricism. In my opinion pro sufficiently addresses this in round three providing examples of rationalism. The second thing con argues is against the first premise of Pro"s argument. He states in the final round "My objection to this premise has been that it is not a conceptual truth that God is a being than which none greater can be conceived, because that definition is not based on any observed facts. It is not a conceptual truth, it is only an expression of emotion." While, I think pro did enough to defend the concept of rationalism, I do not think enough was done to justify the definition of God.

Thus, at the end of the debate, I have the first premise negated which is enough to stop Pro from meeting their BOP. Ergo I vote Con. On a side note, I have done some study on this topic myself and found this video to be useful. https://www.youtube.com...

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6/16/2016 8:38:01 PM
Posted: 5 months ago
I sent you a message about the example of I gave of lesser beings, like a good friend of yours being true. That person has good intentions and is sentient. However, the idea behind the greatest idea ever thought, is more than that.
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