Total Posts:2|Showing Posts:1-2
Jump to topic:

St. Peter is the Rock.

shnarkle
Posts: 68
Add as Friend
Challenge to a Debate
Send a Message
6/23/2016 6:07:12 PM
Posted: 5 months ago
This topic is open for debate, but since I'm not allowed to debate the issue in the debates section, I thought I'd just copy and paste it here to see if anyone is interested in debating this hot topic.

Is St. Peter the rock on which the Church is built? This debate will revolve around the text found in St. Matthew 16:13-19, which reads:

When Jesus went into the region of Caesarea Philippi he asked his disciples, "Who do people say that the Son of Man is?" They replied, "Some say John the Baptist, others Elijah, still others Jeremiah or one of the prophets." He said to them, "But who do you say that I am?" Simon Peter said in reply, "You are the Messiah, the Son of the living God." Jesus said to him in reply, "Blessed are you, Simon son of Jonah. For flesh and blood has not revealed this to you, but my heavenly Father. And so I say to you, you are Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church, and the gates of the netherworld shall not prevail against it. I will give you the keys to the kingdom of heaven. Whatever you bind on earth shall be bound in heaven; and whatever you loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven."

The instigator in the Debates section took the Pro position so I would like to take the Con position; any takers?
MadCornishBiker
Posts: 23,302
Add as Friend
Challenge to a Debate
Send a Message
6/23/2016 6:25:47 PM
Posted: 5 months ago
At 6/23/2016 6:07:12 PM, shnarkle wrote:
This topic is open for debate, but since I'm not allowed to debate the issue in the debates section, I thought I'd just copy and paste it here to see if anyone is interested in debating this hot topic.

Is St. Peter the rock on which the Church is built? This debate will revolve around the text found in St. Matthew 16:13-19, which reads:

When Jesus went into the region of Caesarea Philippi he asked his disciples, "Who do people say that the Son of Man is?" They replied, "Some say John the Baptist, others Elijah, still others Jeremiah or one of the prophets." He said to them, "But who do you say that I am?" Simon Peter said in reply, "You are the Messiah, the Son of the living God." Jesus said to him in reply, "Blessed are you, Simon son of Jonah. For flesh and blood has not revealed this to you, but my heavenly Father. And so I say to you, you are Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church, and the gates of the netherworld shall not prevail against it. I will give you the keys to the kingdom of heaven. Whatever you bind on earth shall be bound in heaven; and whatever you loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven."

Think about how that is worded.

First off Peter means stone, not rock.

If Christ had been indicating Peter as the risk would he not have said "on you I shall build my church.

No Christ is the rock, the foundation of the church.

The RCs twist the meaning of that passage in this way because they wish to claim Pter as the first pope, but there is not one scrap of scriptural evidence that Peter ever even went to Rome.

Plus, of course, the Roman Catholic Church wasn't formed until the 4th century, for all their completely unsubstantiatable claims to the opposite.


The instigator in the Debates section took the Pro position so I would like to take the Con position; any takers?