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6/26/2016 3:50:07 PM
Posted: 5 months ago
Many women have been tricked into believing in Christianity despite it clearly being a false religion that is easily disproved in numerous ways. Many of them have not read the bible in its entirety. If you are one of those half hearted Christians yet to read the bible from genesis to revelation I will give you a preview to the sort of things you will come across.

1. Daughters can be bought and sold:

If a man sells his daughter as a servant, she is not to go free as male servants do. Exodus 21:7

2. A raped daughter can be sold to her rapist:

28 If a man happens to meet a virgin who is not pledged to be married and rapes her and they are discovered, 29 he shall pay her father fifty shekels of silver. He must marry the young woman, for he has violated her. He can never divorce her as long as he lives. Deuteronomy 22:28-29

3. Collecting wives and sex slaves is a sign of status:

He [Solomon] had seven hundred wives of royal birth and three hundred concubines, and his wives led him astray. 1 Kings 11:3

4. Used brides deserve death:

If, however the charge is true and no proof of the girl"s virginity can be found, she shall be brought to the door of her father"s house and there the men of her town shall stone her to death. Deuteronomy 22:20-21.

5. Women, but only virgins, are to be taken as spoils of war:

Now kill all the boys. And kill every woman who has slept with a man, 18 but save for yourselves every girl who has never slept with a man. Numbers 31:17-18

6. Menstruating women are spiritually unclean:

19 ""When a woman has her regular flow of blood, the impurity of her monthly period will last seven days, and anyone who touches her will be unclean till evening. 20 ""Anything she lies on during her period will be unclean, and anything she sits on will be unclean. 21 Anyone who touches her bed will be unclean; they must wash their clothes and bathe with water, and they will be unclean till evening. 22 Anyone who touches anything she sits on will be unclean; they must wash their clothes and bathe with water, . . . 30 The priest is to sacrifice one for a sin offering and the other for a burnt offering. In this way he will make atonement for her before the LORD for the uncleanness of her discharge. 31 ""You must keep the Israelites separate from things that make them unclean, so they will not die in their uncleanness for defiling my dwelling place,[a] which is among them."" Leviticus 15: 19-31

7. A woman is twice as unclean after giving birth to girl as to a boy:

A woman who becomes pregnant and gives birth to a son will be ceremonially unclean for seven days, just as she is unclean during her monthly period. " 3 On the eighth day the boy is to be circumcised. 4 Then the woman must wait thirty-three days to be purified from her bleeding. She must not touch anything sacred or go to the sanctuary until the days of her purification are over. 5 If she gives birth to a daughter, for two weeks the woman will be unclean, as during her period. Then she must wait sixty-six days to be purified from her bleeding. 6 " "When the days of her purification for a son or daughter are over, she is to bring to the priest at the entrance to the tent of meeting a year-old lamb for a burnt offering and a young pigeon or a dove for a sin offering. Leviticus 12: 1-8

8. A woman"s promise is binding only if her father or husband agrees:

2 When a man makes a vow to the LORD or takes an oath to obligate himself by a pledge, he must not break his word but must do everything he said. 3 "When a young woman still living in her father"s household makes a vow to the LORD or obligates herself by a pledge 4 and her father hears about her vow or pledge but says nothing to her, then all her vows and every pledge by which she obligated herself will stand. 5 But if her father forbids her when he hears about it, none of her vows or the pledges by which she obligated herself will stand; the LORD will release her because her father has forbidden her. . . . . A woman"s vow is meaningless unless approved by her husband or father. But if her husband nullifies them when he hears about them, then none of the vows or pledges that came from her lips will stand. Her husband has nullified them, and the LORD will release her. 13 Her husband may confirm or nullify any vow she makes or any sworn pledge to deny herself. Numbers 30:1-16

9. Women should be seen not heard:

Women should remain silent in the churches. They are not allowed to speak, but must be in submission, as the law says. 1 Corinthians 14:34

10. Wives should submit to their husband"s instructions and desires:

Wives, submit yourselves to your husbands, as is fitting in the Lord. Colossians 3:18

Wives, submit yourselves to your own husbands as you do to the Lord. 23 For the husband is the head of the wife as Christ is the head of the church, his body, of which he is the Savior. 24 Now as the church submits to Christ, so also wives should submit to their husbands in everything. Ephesians 5:22-24.

11. More submission " and childbearing as a form of atonement:

A woman should learn in quietness and full submission. 12 I do not permit a woman to teach or to assume authority over a man; she must be quiet. 13 For Adam was formed first, then Eve. 14 And Adam was not the one deceived; it was the woman who was deceived and became a sinner. 15 But women will be saved through childbearing"if they continue in faith, love and holiness with propriety. 1 Timothy 2: 11-15

12. Women were created for men:

For if a woman does not cover her head, she might as well have her hair cut off; but if it is a disgrace for a woman to have her hair cut off or her head shaved, then she should cover her head. 7 A man ought not to cover his head, since he is the image and glory of God; but woman is the glory of man. 8 For man did not come from woman, but woman from man; 9 neither was man created for woman, but woman for man. 1 Corinthians 11:2-10

13. Sleeping with women is dirty:

No one could learn the song except the 144,000 who had been redeemed from the earth. 4 These are those who did not defile themselves with women, for they remained virgins. They follow the Lamb wherever he goes. They were purchased from among mankind and offered as first-fruits to God and the Lamb. Revelation 14:3-4

14. A wife is a man"s property:

You shall not covet your neighbor"s house. You shall not covet your neighbor"s wife, or his male or female servant, his ox or donkey, or anything that belongs to your neighbor. Exodus 20:17

Clearly the misogynists who wrote these bible verses were not inspired by a God. It is simply impossible for a perfect, omniscient creature to hold such ridiculous views. These verses are written by unenlightened men in ancient times looking for excuses to control women and treat them as second class citizens with no other purposes in life other than reproduction, pleasing men in bed, cooking, cleaning and looking after children.

The sad thing is many people actually identify as believers in the religion that has a holy book containing these verses. It is not just intellectually dishonest to believe in Christianity, it is immoral. In your ignorance to the truth your false beliefs allow sexism against women to be tolerated according to your holy book you claim is the word of your unchanging God. Sexism is immoral and never justified in any circumstances.

Women should rise up against the sexism found in the bible and the sexism displayed by the church in discriminating against women by preventing them from being appointed to certain roles on the grounds of their gender.

The way to do this is to reject all elements of Christianity on grounds of principle and expose it for being the lie it really is! The less people are influenced by belief in a false religion that promotes discrimination against women the less they will oppose gender equality and women's rights.
"I don't need experience.to knock you out. I'm a man. that's all I need to beat you and any woman."

Fatihah, in his delusion that he could knock out any woman while bragging about being able to knock me out. An example of 7th century Islamic thinking inspired by his hero the paedophile Muhammad.
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6/26/2016 4:13:09 PM
Posted: 5 months ago
It's ridiculous to think that the bible is anti-woman, and it is very sad to see a girl who thinks that being a good mother is somehow dishonorable.

A wife is supposed to submit her body to her husband, yes, but a husband likewise must submit his body to his wife.

There is nothing dishonorable about a woman's place. It's that way for a reason. Biologically it works that way. A man brings in resources, a woman is steward over the home. It's a cooperative effort that is time tested as being optimal for raising children.

Men and women are made for each other. We are supposed to get married, that's how we were made to be. This whole idea that marriages are disposable and people should be perpetually single is immoral and harmful to society.

You make adultery the norm, it isn't too long after before there is widespread perversion.
And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up: That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life. As many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name: which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of the will of God. The hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth,
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6/26/2016 4:27:12 PM
Posted: 5 months ago
At 6/26/2016 4:13:09 PM, SpiritandTruth wrote:
It's ridiculous to think that the bible is anti-woman, and it is very sad to see a girl who thinks that being a good mother is somehow dishonorable.
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A wife is supposed to submit her body to her husband, yes, but a husband likewise must submit his body to his wife.
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There is nothing dishonorable about a woman's place. It's that way for a reason. Biologically it works that way. A man brings in resources, a woman is steward over the home. It's a cooperative effort that is time tested as being optimal for raising children.
The dishonour is all in your misogynistic beliefs.
Men and women are made for each other. We are supposed to get married, that's how we were made to be. This whole idea that marriages are disposable and people should be perpetually single is immoral and harmful to society.
What an idiot, we are meant to get married, so says the caveman you believe.
You make adultery the norm, it isn't too long after before there is widespread perversion.
What an idiot.
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6/26/2016 4:44:54 PM
Posted: 5 months ago
At 6/26/2016 4:27:12 PM, bulproof wrote:
The dishonour is all in your misogynistic beliefs.

Oh no, one of those cursed words that is intended to destroy all sense and decency!

No, I think the real people who hate woman and humanity in general are the ones who live the life of rampant fornication.
And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up: That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life. As many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name: which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of the will of God. The hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth,
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6/26/2016 4:54:44 PM
Posted: 5 months ago
At 6/26/2016 4:13:09 PM, SpiritandTruth wrote:
It's ridiculous to think that the bible is anti-woman, and it is very sad to see a girl who thinks that being a good mother is somehow dishonorable.

A wife is supposed to submit her body to her husband, yes, but a husband likewise must submit his body to his wife.

There is nothing dishonorable about a woman's place. It's that way for a reason. Biologically it works that way. A man brings in resources, a woman is steward over the home. It's a cooperative effort that is time tested as being optimal for raising children.

Yet, biologically, women are bringing in resources and men are stewards over the home, another optical cooperative effort for raising children.

Men and women are made for each other. We are supposed to get married, that's how we were made to be. This whole idea that marriages are disposable and people should be perpetually single is immoral and harmful to society.

And yet, your vacuous opinion is not substantiated in any way.

You make adultery the norm, it isn't too long after before there is widespread perversion.

"Divorce rates among conservative Christians were significantly higher than for other faith groups, and much higher than Atheists and Agnostics experience."

http://www.religioustolerance.org...
Marrying a 6 year old and waiting until she reaches puberty and maturity before having consensual sex is better than walking up to
a stranger in a bar and proceeding to have relations with no valid proof of the intent of the person. Muhammad wins. ~ Fatihah
If they don't want to be killed then they have to subdue to the Islamic laws. - Uncung
Without God, you are lower than sh!t. ~ SpiritandTruth
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6/26/2016 5:24:55 PM
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At 6/26/2016 4:54:44 PM, DanneJeRusse wrote:
At 6/26/2016 4:13:09 PM, SpiritandTruth wrote:
It's ridiculous to think that the bible is anti-woman, and it is very sad to see a girl who thinks that being a good mother is somehow dishonorable.

A wife is supposed to submit her body to her husband, yes, but a husband likewise must submit his body to his wife.

There is nothing dishonorable about a woman's place. It's that way for a reason. Biologically it works that way. A man brings in resources, a woman is steward over the home. It's a cooperative effort that is time tested as being optimal for raising children.

Yet, biologically, women are bringing in resources and men are stewards over the home, another optical cooperative effort for raising children.

Men and women are made for each other. We are supposed to get married, that's how we were made to be. This whole idea that marriages are disposable and people should be perpetually single is immoral and harmful to society.

And yet, your vacuous opinion is not substantiated in any way.

You make adultery the norm, it isn't too long after before there is widespread perversion.

"Divorce rates among conservative Christians were significantly higher than for other faith groups, and much higher than Atheists and Agnostics experience."

http://www.religioustolerance.org...

When people are born "Christian", it loses the meaning. The scriptures say, "you must be born again of the spirit".

This is a trick the devil will use. Demographics and statistics are used by the enemy to divide, conquer, and justify all sorts of oppressive evils.
And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up: That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life. As many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name: which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of the will of God. The hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth,
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6/26/2016 5:31:53 PM
Posted: 5 months ago
At 6/26/2016 4:44:54 PM, SpiritandTruth wrote:
At 6/26/2016 4:27:12 PM, bulproof wrote:
The dishonour is all in your misogynistic beliefs.

Oh no, one of those cursed words that is intended to destroy all sense and decency!


No, I think the real people who hate woman and humanity in general are the ones who live the life of rampant fornication.

Proof positive that you are an idiot.
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6/26/2016 5:46:55 PM
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At 6/26/2016 5:24:55 PM, SpiritandTruth wrote:
At 6/26/2016 4:54:44 PM, DanneJeRusse wrote:
At 6/26/2016 4:13:09 PM, SpiritandTruth wrote:
It's ridiculous to think that the bible is anti-woman, and it is very sad to see a girl who thinks that being a good mother is somehow dishonorable.

A wife is supposed to submit her body to her husband, yes, but a husband likewise must submit his body to his wife.

There is nothing dishonorable about a woman's place. It's that way for a reason. Biologically it works that way. A man brings in resources, a woman is steward over the home. It's a cooperative effort that is time tested as being optimal for raising children.

Yet, biologically, women are bringing in resources and men are stewards over the home, another optical cooperative effort for raising children.

Men and women are made for each other. We are supposed to get married, that's how we were made to be. This whole idea that marriages are disposable and people should be perpetually single is immoral and harmful to society.

And yet, your vacuous opinion is not substantiated in any way.

You make adultery the norm, it isn't too long after before there is widespread perversion.

"Divorce rates among conservative Christians were significantly higher than for other faith groups, and much higher than Atheists and Agnostics experience."

http://www.religioustolerance.org...

When people are born "Christian", it loses the meaning. The scriptures say, "you must be born again of the spirit".

This is a trick the devil will use. Demographics and statistics are used by the enemy to divide, conquer, and justify all sorts of oppressive evils.

LOL. Invoking your boogieman is not an argument, it means you can't come up with an argument or refutation of the facts, which show you and your ilk are the ones who will bring on the perversion you're do desperately afraid.
Marrying a 6 year old and waiting until she reaches puberty and maturity before having consensual sex is better than walking up to
a stranger in a bar and proceeding to have relations with no valid proof of the intent of the person. Muhammad wins. ~ Fatihah
If they don't want to be killed then they have to subdue to the Islamic laws. - Uncung
Without God, you are lower than sh!t. ~ SpiritandTruth
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6/26/2016 5:48:37 PM
Posted: 5 months ago
At 6/26/2016 5:31:53 PM, bulproof wrote:
At 6/26/2016 4:44:54 PM, SpiritandTruth wrote:
At 6/26/2016 4:27:12 PM, bulproof wrote:
The dishonour is all in your misogynistic beliefs.

Oh no, one of those cursed words that is intended to destroy all sense and decency!


No, I think the real people who hate woman and humanity in general are the ones who live the life of rampant fornication.

Proof positive that you are an idiot.

You say this because you neglect to ponder the long term societal effects on family, stability of wealth, on health, on psychology, and on ultimately on government.

Yeah, there are ways of thinking and doing things that seem right to the reasonings of corrupted men, but in the end lead to nothing but death. There is plenty enough historical evidence to suggest that these "good old fashioned values" were not decided on arbitrarily, but dictated by natural selection.

It is more skillful and better for future generations to maintain the traditional family and that we write it in our hearts to hold marriage as being a sacred and indissoluble covenant. It is important that we write it in our hearts that sexual immorality can be deceptively innocent, but harmful none the less. It is important that men and women are married, and perfect their love through the sacred union of when two persons become one flesh. They are no longer simply themselves now, they are together one being. This needs to be respected. It needs to be understood that sex outside of marriage is fornication, and believers are not to do this.

People will do things the way people have always done things, but lets not pretend that there isn't a skillful and stewardly way of doing things.
And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up: That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life. As many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name: which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of the will of God. The hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth,
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6/26/2016 6:03:33 PM
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At 6/26/2016 5:48:37 PM, SpiritandTruth wrote:
At 6/26/2016 5:31:53 PM, bulproof wrote:
At 6/26/2016 4:44:54 PM, SpiritandTruth wrote:
At 6/26/2016 4:27:12 PM, bulproof wrote:
The dishonour is all in your misogynistic beliefs.

Oh no, one of those cursed words that is intended to destroy all sense and decency!


No, I think the real people who hate woman and humanity in general are the ones who live the life of rampant fornication.

Proof positive that you are an idiot.

You say this because you neglect to ponder the long term societal effects on family, stability of wealth, on health, on psychology, and on ultimately on government.

Yeah, there are ways of thinking and doing things that seem right to the reasonings of corrupted men, but in the end lead to nothing but death. There is plenty enough historical evidence to suggest that these "good old fashioned values" were not decided on arbitrarily, but dictated by natural selection.

It is more skillful and better for future generations to maintain the traditional family and that we write it in our hearts to hold marriage as being a sacred and indissoluble covenant. It is important that we write it in our hearts that sexual immorality can be deceptively innocent, but harmful none the less. It is important that men and women are married, and perfect their love through the sacred union of when two persons become one flesh. They are no longer simply themselves now, they are together one being. This needs to be respected. It needs to be understood that sex outside of marriage is fornication, and believers are not to do this.

Then, you need to talk with your own Christian brethren who are the worst offenders of your so-called covenant. Clean up your own backyard, first, before complaining about your neighbors.

People will do things the way people have always done things, but lets not pretend that there isn't a skillful and stewardly way of doing things.
Marrying a 6 year old and waiting until she reaches puberty and maturity before having consensual sex is better than walking up to
a stranger in a bar and proceeding to have relations with no valid proof of the intent of the person. Muhammad wins. ~ Fatihah
If they don't want to be killed then they have to subdue to the Islamic laws. - Uncung
Without God, you are lower than sh!t. ~ SpiritandTruth
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6/26/2016 6:09:33 PM
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At 6/26/2016 4:13:09 PM, SpiritandTruth wrote:
It's ridiculous to think that the bible is anti-woman, and it is very sad to see a girl who thinks that being a good mother is somehow dishonorable.

The bible is certainly anti-women. That cannot be reasonably disputed. Who claimed being a good mother is dishonorable?

A wife is supposed to submit her body to her husband, yes, but a husband likewise must submit his body to his wife.

That does not answer the sexist verses I highlight in the op.

There is nothing dishonorable about a woman's place. It's that way for a reason. Biologically it works that way. A man brings in resources, a woman is steward over the home. It's a cooperative effort that is time tested as being optimal for raising children.

Raising children is not the only thing in life. There is no logical reason for women to take a secondary role in society as there is no measurable difference in average intelligence between males and females.

Men and women are made for each other. We are supposed to get married, that's how we were made to be. This whole idea that marriages are disposable and people should be perpetually single is immoral and harmful to society.

We are not supposed to get married. It's something that we can choose to do if we want to.

You make adultery the norm, it isn't too long after before there is widespread perversion.

I didn't mention anything about adultery. What are you on about?
"I don't need experience.to knock you out. I'm a man. that's all I need to beat you and any woman."

Fatihah, in his delusion that he could knock out any woman while bragging about being able to knock me out. An example of 7th century Islamic thinking inspired by his hero the paedophile Muhammad.
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6/26/2016 6:11:43 PM
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At 6/26/2016 4:54:44 PM, DanneJeRusse wrote:
At 6/26/2016 4:13:09 PM, SpiritandTruth wrote:
It's ridiculous to think that the bible is anti-woman, and it is very sad to see a girl who thinks that being a good mother is somehow dishonorable.

A wife is supposed to submit her body to her husband, yes, but a husband likewise must submit his body to his wife.

There is nothing dishonorable about a woman's place. It's that way for a reason. Biologically it works that way. A man brings in resources, a woman is steward over the home. It's a cooperative effort that is time tested as being optimal for raising children.

Yet, biologically, women are bringing in resources and men are stewards over the home, another optical cooperative effort for raising children.

Men and women are made for each other. We are supposed to get married, that's how we were made to be. This whole idea that marriages are disposable and people should be perpetually single is immoral and harmful to society.

And yet, your vacuous opinion is not substantiated in any way.

You make adultery the norm, it isn't too long after before there is widespread perversion.

"Divorce rates among conservative Christians were significantly higher than for other faith groups, and much higher than Atheists and Agnostics experience."

http://www.religioustolerance.org...

Great point!
"I don't need experience.to knock you out. I'm a man. that's all I need to beat you and any woman."

Fatihah, in his delusion that he could knock out any woman while bragging about being able to knock me out. An example of 7th century Islamic thinking inspired by his hero the paedophile Muhammad.
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6/26/2016 6:13:59 PM
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At 6/26/2016 6:03:33 PM, DanneJeRusse wrote:
Then, you need to talk with your own Christian brethren who are the worst offenders of your so-called covenant. Clean up your own backyard, first, before complaining about your neighbors.

Who am I to judge whether or not someone is a believer? I know this, that believers and unbelievers alike will see my words, and believers and unbelievers alike will see the words of the enemy contained in this topic.

The enemy wants to silence me, because I am aware that God is Salvation, and I want others to be aware. Let it be known that the devil has lost since the foundation of the world, and God is The One who reigns in unmatched majesty.
And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up: That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life. As many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name: which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of the will of God. The hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth,
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6/26/2016 6:14:22 PM
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At 6/26/2016 5:24:55 PM, SpiritandTruth wrote:
At 6/26/2016 4:54:44 PM, DanneJeRusse wrote:
At 6/26/2016 4:13:09 PM, SpiritandTruth wrote:
It's ridiculous to think that the bible is anti-woman, and it is very sad to see a girl who thinks that being a good mother is somehow dishonorable.

A wife is supposed to submit her body to her husband, yes, but a husband likewise must submit his body to his wife.

There is nothing dishonorable about a woman's place. It's that way for a reason. Biologically it works that way. A man brings in resources, a woman is steward over the home. It's a cooperative effort that is time tested as being optimal for raising children.

Yet, biologically, women are bringing in resources and men are stewards over the home, another optical cooperative effort for raising children.

Men and women are made for each other. We are supposed to get married, that's how we were made to be. This whole idea that marriages are disposable and people should be perpetually single is immoral and harmful to society.

And yet, your vacuous opinion is not substantiated in any way.

You make adultery the norm, it isn't too long after before there is widespread perversion.

"Divorce rates among conservative Christians were significantly higher than for other faith groups, and much higher than Atheists and Agnostics experience."

http://www.religioustolerance.org...

When people are born "Christian", it loses the meaning. The scriptures say, "you must be born again of the spirit".

This is a trick the devil will use. Demographics and statistics are used by the enemy to divide, conquer, and justify all sorts of oppressive evils.

It's a fact. Conservative Christians are more likely to get divorced than atheists. Therefore belief in fairytales that claim men are better than women leads to higher divorce rates.
"I don't need experience.to knock you out. I'm a man. that's all I need to beat you and any woman."

Fatihah, in his delusion that he could knock out any woman while bragging about being able to knock me out. An example of 7th century Islamic thinking inspired by his hero the paedophile Muhammad.
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6/26/2016 6:16:03 PM
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At 6/26/2016 6:09:33 PM, Chloe8 wrote:
The bible is certainly anti-women. That cannot be reasonably disputed. Who claimed being a good mother is dishonorable?

Raising children is not the only thing in life. There is no logical reason for women to take a secondary role in society as there is no measurable difference in average intelligence between males and females.

You did, obviously.
And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up: That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life. As many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name: which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of the will of God. The hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth,
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6/26/2016 6:17:23 PM
Posted: 5 months ago
At 6/26/2016 6:13:59 PM, SpiritandTruth wrote:
At 6/26/2016 6:03:33 PM, DanneJeRusse wrote:
Then, you need to talk with your own Christian brethren who are the worst offenders of your so-called covenant. Clean up your own backyard, first, before complaining about your neighbors.

Who am I to judge whether or not someone is a believer? I know this, that believers and unbelievers alike will see my words, and believers and unbelievers alike will see the words of the enemy contained in this topic.

The enemy wants to silence me, because I am aware that God is Salvation, and I want others to be aware. Let it be known that the devil has lost since the foundation of the world, and God is The One who reigns in unmatched majesty.

Bat sh1t crazy.
Marrying a 6 year old and waiting until she reaches puberty and maturity before having consensual sex is better than walking up to
a stranger in a bar and proceeding to have relations with no valid proof of the intent of the person. Muhammad wins. ~ Fatihah
If they don't want to be killed then they have to subdue to the Islamic laws. - Uncung
Without God, you are lower than sh!t. ~ SpiritandTruth
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6/26/2016 6:23:32 PM
Posted: 5 months ago
At 6/26/2016 6:16:03 PM, SpiritandTruth wrote:
At 6/26/2016 6:09:33 PM, Chloe8 wrote:
The bible is certainly anti-women. That cannot be reasonably disputed. Who claimed being a good mother is dishonorable?

Raising children is not the only thing in life. There is no logical reason for women to take a secondary role in society as there is no measurable difference in average intelligence between males and females.


You did, obviously.

I said raising children is not the only thing in life refuting your claim that it's the only thing of any importance in life. Then I said there is no logical reason for women to take a secondary role in society. I was addressing separate points you made. The 14 bible versus I listed claim women are second class citizens. That is what I was addressing with that point.
"I don't need experience.to knock you out. I'm a man. that's all I need to beat you and any woman."

Fatihah, in his delusion that he could knock out any woman while bragging about being able to knock me out. An example of 7th century Islamic thinking inspired by his hero the paedophile Muhammad.
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6/26/2016 6:46:12 PM
Posted: 5 months ago
At 6/26/2016 6:23:32 PM, Chloe8 wrote:
At 6/26/2016 6:16:03 PM, SpiritandTruth wrote:
At 6/26/2016 6:09:33 PM, Chloe8 wrote:
The bible is certainly anti-women. That cannot be reasonably disputed. Who claimed being a good mother is dishonorable?

Raising children is not the only thing in life. There is no logical reason for women to take a secondary role in society as there is no measurable difference in average intelligence between males and females.


You did, obviously.

I said raising children is not the only thing in life refuting your claim that it's the only thing of any importance in life. Then I said there is no logical reason for women to take a secondary role in society. I was addressing separate points you made. The 14 bible versus I listed claim women are second class citizens. That is what I was addressing with that point.

Look, you don't know what you are talking about. You might think all those verses up there prove some type of point, but they only thing they show is that you haven't studied as much as you think.

Men and women are different, and that is ok. They live in different worlds, and that is ok. There are few in the world who are more worthy of respect and adoration than a good mother. It is honorable to be a mother and homemaker, and it is not nearly as degrading than what most people do for a living.
And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up: That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life. As many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name: which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of the will of God. The hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth,
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6/26/2016 7:06:16 PM
Posted: 5 months ago
At 6/26/2016 6:46:12 PM, SpiritandTruth wrote:
At 6/26/2016 6:23:32 PM, Chloe8 wrote:
At 6/26/2016 6:16:03 PM, SpiritandTruth wrote:
At 6/26/2016 6:09:33 PM, Chloe8 wrote:
The bible is certainly anti-women. That cannot be reasonably disputed. Who claimed being a good mother is dishonorable?

Raising children is not the only thing in life. There is no logical reason for women to take a secondary role in society as there is no measurable difference in average intelligence between males and females.


You did, obviously.

I said raising children is not the only thing in life refuting your claim that it's the only thing of any importance in life. Then I said there is no logical reason for women to take a secondary role in society. I was addressing separate points you made. The 14 bible versus I listed claim women are second class citizens. That is what I was addressing with that point.

Look, you don't know what you are talking about. You might think all those verses up there prove some type of point, but they only thing they show is that you haven't studied as much as you think.

They prove that Christianity Is a sexist religion created by ancient misogynists. How does highlighting bible verses demonstrate bible ignorance? You have no way of defending them. They are in your holy book.

Men and women are different, and that is ok. They live in different worlds, and that is ok. There are few in the world who are more worthy of respect and adoration than a good mother. It is honorable to be a mother and homemaker, and it is not nearly as degrading than what most people do for a living.

Actually we all live on planet earth! Your point is?
"I don't need experience.to knock you out. I'm a man. that's all I need to beat you and any woman."

Fatihah, in his delusion that he could knock out any woman while bragging about being able to knock me out. An example of 7th century Islamic thinking inspired by his hero the paedophile Muhammad.
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6/26/2016 7:11:13 PM
Posted: 5 months ago
At 6/26/2016 6:46:12 PM, SpiritandTruth wrote:
At 6/26/2016 6:23:32 PM, Chloe8 wrote:
At 6/26/2016 6:16:03 PM, SpiritandTruth wrote:
At 6/26/2016 6:09:33 PM, Chloe8 wrote:
The bible is certainly anti-women. That cannot be reasonably disputed. Who claimed being a good mother is dishonorable?

Raising children is not the only thing in life. There is no logical reason for women to take a secondary role in society as there is no measurable difference in average intelligence between males and females.


You did, obviously.

I said raising children is not the only thing in life refuting your claim that it's the only thing of any importance in life. Then I said there is no logical reason for women to take a secondary role in society. I was addressing separate points you made. The 14 bible versus I listed claim women are second class citizens. That is what I was addressing with that point.

Look, you don't know what you are talking about. You might think all those verses up there prove some type of point, but they only thing they show is that you haven't studied as much as you think.

Men and women are different, and that is ok. They live in different worlds, and that is ok. There are few in the world who are more worthy of respect and adoration than a good mother. It is honorable to be a mother and homemaker, and it is not nearly as degrading than what most people do for a living.

So why don't you explain why some of the quotes provided in the OP do not suggest women are inferior and get away from your focus on the value of being a good mother, which is completely irrelevant to the OP.
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6/26/2016 7:13:19 PM
Posted: 5 months ago
The bible is a product of another age and an antiquated worldview. This world was unschooled, illiterate and intolerant. This world was dominated by men, who also were the ones knowing how to write -of course male dominance will then be reflected in their scriptures.

But women should not reject Christianity on the basis of it being sexist. We should reject Christianity if one thinks it is false.
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6/26/2016 7:17:49 PM
Posted: 5 months ago
At 6/26/2016 7:06:16 PM, Chloe8 wrote:

They prove that Christianity Is a sexist religion created by ancient misogynists. How does highlighting bible verses demonstrate bible ignorance? You have no way of defending them. They are in your holy book.

You don't understand the context. You don't understand the intent of scripture. You don't know what "holy book" even means. You think that Christians worship scripture as an idol before God. No, that isn't how it works.

I don't have to defend them, because as long as you have this incorrect approach, there will be no end to it. If it isn't these scriptures, it'll be some other scriptures, and then you'll still be missing the point.
And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up: That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life. As many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name: which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of the will of God. The hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth,
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6/26/2016 7:36:21 PM
Posted: 5 months ago
At 6/26/2016 7:11:13 PM, Canuck wrote:
So why don't you explain why some of the quotes provided in the OP do not suggest women are inferior and get away from your focus on the value of being a good mother, which is completely irrelevant to the OP.

Nearly everything in the OP is irrelevant to how women are treated in Christianity. You think it isn't because you don't understand the faith.

It's nonsense, women are loved and respected in Christianity. The world wants to exploit, abuse, degrade, and do everything ill to women. It is gone so far that they even have people believing that evil is good and that good is evil. I tell you, a Christian woman has dignity.
And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up: That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life. As many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name: which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of the will of God. The hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth,
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6/26/2016 7:39:17 PM
Posted: 5 months ago
At 6/26/2016 7:17:49 PM, SpiritandTruth wrote:
At 6/26/2016 7:06:16 PM, Chloe8 wrote:

They prove that Christianity Is a sexist religion created by ancient misogynists. How does highlighting bible verses demonstrate bible ignorance? You have no way of defending them. They are in your holy book.

You don't understand the context. You don't understand the intent of scripture. You don't know what "holy book" even means. You think that Christians worship scripture as an idol before God. No, that isn't how it works.

I know the context. It's you who makes it an excuse for unacceptable sexism.

I don't have to defend them, because as long as you have this incorrect approach, there will be no end to it. If it isn't these scriptures, it'll be some other scriptures, and then you'll still be missing the point.

Exactly. There are so many ways I can prove the bible God is a misogynistic male chauvinist you are forced to concede. It's you who has the wrong approach as you are the one who thinks these bible verses are ok. Your views are from the first century. I just show people the truth about what the bible contains. It has no place in the 21st century.
"I don't need experience.to knock you out. I'm a man. that's all I need to beat you and any woman."

Fatihah, in his delusion that he could knock out any woman while bragging about being able to knock me out. An example of 7th century Islamic thinking inspired by his hero the paedophile Muhammad.
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6/26/2016 7:41:08 PM
Posted: 5 months ago
At 6/26/2016 7:39:17 PM, Chloe8 wrote:
At 6/26/2016 7:17:49 PM, SpiritandTruth wrote:
At 6/26/2016 7:06:16 PM, Chloe8 wrote:

They prove that Christianity Is a sexist religion created by ancient misogynists. How does highlighting bible verses demonstrate bible ignorance? You have no way of defending them. They are in your holy book.

You don't understand the context. You don't understand the intent of scripture. You don't know what "holy book" even means. You think that Christians worship scripture as an idol before God. No, that isn't how it works.

I know the context. It's you who makes it an excuse for unacceptable sexism.

Obviously, I don't.

I don't have to defend them, because as long as you have this incorrect approach, there will be no end to it. If it isn't these scriptures, it'll be some other scriptures, and then you'll still be missing the point.

Exactly. There are so many ways I can prove the bible God is a misogynistic male chauvinist you are forced to concede. It's you who has the wrong approach as you are the one who thinks these bible verses are ok. Your views are from the first century. I just show people the truth about what the bible contains. It has no place in the 21st century.

Maybe you shouldn't stop there, and read the rest of the bible.
And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up: That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life. As many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name: which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of the will of God. The hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth,
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6/26/2016 7:45:14 PM
Posted: 5 months ago
At 6/26/2016 7:13:19 PM, vic.berg wrote:
The bible is a product of another age and an antiquated worldview. This world was unschooled, illiterate and intolerant. This world was dominated by men, who also were the ones knowing how to write -of course male dominance will then be reflected in their scriptures.

But women should not reject Christianity on the basis of it being sexist. We should reject Christianity if one thinks it is false.

+1
Marrying a 6 year old and waiting until she reaches puberty and maturity before having consensual sex is better than walking up to
a stranger in a bar and proceeding to have relations with no valid proof of the intent of the person. Muhammad wins. ~ Fatihah
If they don't want to be killed then they have to subdue to the Islamic laws. - Uncung
Without God, you are lower than sh!t. ~ SpiritandTruth
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6/26/2016 7:47:09 PM
Posted: 5 months ago
At 6/26/2016 7:41:08 PM, SpiritandTruth wrote:
At 6/26/2016 7:39:17 PM, Chloe8 wrote:
At 6/26/2016 7:17:49 PM, SpiritandTruth wrote:
At 6/26/2016 7:06:16 PM, Chloe8 wrote:

They prove that Christianity Is a sexist religion created by ancient misogynists. How does highlighting bible verses demonstrate bible ignorance? You have no way of defending them. They are in your holy book.

You don't understand the context. You don't understand the intent of scripture. You don't know what "holy book" even means. You think that Christians worship scripture as an idol before God. No, that isn't how it works.

I know the context. It's you who makes it an excuse for unacceptable sexism.

Obviously, I don't.

So you accept that the bible condones sexism?

I don't have to defend them, because as long as you have this incorrect approach, there will be no end to it. If it isn't these scriptures, it'll be some other scriptures, and then you'll still be missing the point.

Exactly. There are so many ways I can prove the bible God is a misogynistic male chauvinist you are forced to concede. It's you who has the wrong approach as you are the one who thinks these bible verses are ok. Your views are from the first century. I just show people the truth about what the bible contains. It has no place in the 21st century.

Maybe you shouldn't stop there, and read the rest of the bible.

I've read the whole book.
"I don't need experience.to knock you out. I'm a man. that's all I need to beat you and any woman."

Fatihah, in his delusion that he could knock out any woman while bragging about being able to knock me out. An example of 7th century Islamic thinking inspired by his hero the paedophile Muhammad.
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6/26/2016 7:51:14 PM
Posted: 5 months ago
At 6/26/2016 7:36:21 PM, SpiritandTruth wrote:
At 6/26/2016 7:11:13 PM, Canuck wrote:
So why don't you explain why some of the quotes provided in the OP do not suggest women are inferior and get away from your focus on the value of being a good mother, which is completely irrelevant to the OP.

Nearly everything in the OP is irrelevant to how women are treated in Christianity. You think it isn't because you don't understand the faith.

It's nonsense, women are loved and respected in Christianity. The world wants to exploit, abuse, degrade, and do everything ill to women. It is gone so far that they even have people believing that evil is good and that good is evil. I tell you, a Christian woman has dignity.

I don't doubt that most Christians do not follow many of the sexist practices. But where in the bible does it clearly define which of these rules can be ignored? I'm not a biblical scholar and am truly interested in learning more, but it sure seems that those that believe the bible represents God's teachings pick and choose which parts they want to follow.
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6/26/2016 7:52:35 PM
Posted: 5 months ago
At 6/26/2016 4:13:09 PM, SpiritandTruth wrote:
You make adultery the norm, it isn't too long after before there is widespread perversion.

My concern is that if society made pederasty the norm, it wouldn't be long before there were widespread religious education. :p