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Shukr
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6/28/2016 4:39:47 PM
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Why you disbelieve / believe in god ?

Take your time and share the best reason you can think of.
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Chaosism
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6/28/2016 4:54:24 PM
Posted: 5 months ago
At 6/28/2016 4:39:47 PM, Shukr wrote:
Why you disbelieve / believe in god ?

Take your time and share the best reason you can think of.

Demonstrable human psychological/behavioral tendencies well explain why human beings are inclined towards belief in God and religious belief, in general. Very basically, the human mind craves explanations about the nature of the world, prefers to fabricate explanations rather than accept uncertainty, favor that which benefits the cohesion of a social group despite the truth of the matter, and treats internal consistency of beliefs with greater priority than truth.

Certainly, a God could be potentially be responsible for our abysmally poor ability to truly understand the world around us, but that introduces a lot of questions and requires a lot of assumptions about the nature and motives of said God.
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6/28/2016 5:33:51 PM
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At 6/28/2016 4:39:47 PM, Shukr wrote:
Why you disbelieve / believe in god ?

Take your time and share the best reason you can think of.

The reason I don't own a belief in an interventionist god is because lack of evidence of intervention. If the claims of intervention don't amount to much more than faces in toast or people's claims of unverified wisperings in their head, that is less than convincing.

What is the importance of an interventionist god that doesn't intervene? Here we are debating about his existence and this supposedly all powerful god cant/wont speak up. When asked about these things, theists seem content to simply say his ways are mysterious.

The best argument theist can present is that the universe is too complicated too pop into existence yet don't see the irony in stating that god always existed and was not created.

The argument goes like this: The universe is too complicated to pop into existence therefore that indirectly proves that claims of talking snakes are true.

I am agnostic on the idea of an intelligence and/or consciousness as an inherent property of the universe but that does not fit the definition of "god".
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6/28/2016 5:36:15 PM
Posted: 5 months ago
At 6/28/2016 4:39:47 PM, Shukr wrote:
Why you disbelieve / believe in god ?

Take your time and share the best reason you can think of.

The existence of gods is an unsubstantiated claim made by man for many thousands of years and many thousands of gods.
Dismissed.
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6/28/2016 5:44:03 PM
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At 6/28/2016 4:39:47 PM, Shukr wrote:
Why you disbelieve / believe in god ?

Take your time and share the best reason you can think of.

I believe in the God of the Bible because of my interpretation
of the evidence I see around me.
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6/28/2016 5:50:52 PM
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At 6/28/2016 5:44:03 PM, rnjs wrote:
At 6/28/2016 4:39:47 PM, Shukr wrote:
Why you disbelieve / believe in god ?

Take your time and share the best reason you can think of.

I believe in the God of the Bible because of my interpretation
of the evidence I see around me.

Tell us about the evidence of the Jews/Hebrews/Canaanites being enslaved by the Egyptians for 400yrs and the archaeological evidence of upwards of 4 million people and their livestock wandering a very small desert for 40 yrs.
Try not to take too long.
janesix
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6/28/2016 6:37:57 PM
Posted: 5 months ago
At 6/28/2016 4:39:47 PM, Shukr wrote:
Why you disbelieve / believe in god ?

Take your time and share the best reason you can think of.

I have two reasons to believe. One is personal experience.

The second is the recurrance of specific numbers in everything from the solar system to geometry to the speed of light.
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6/28/2016 7:02:23 PM
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At 6/28/2016 6:37:57 PM, janesix wrote:
At 6/28/2016 4:39:47 PM, Shukr wrote:
Why you disbelieve / believe in god ?

Take your time and share the best reason you can think of.

I have two reasons to believe. One is personal experience.

The second is the recurrance of specific numbers in everything from the solar system to geometry to the speed of light.
WOW 186,000 mps recurs where?
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6/28/2016 7:02:50 PM
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At 6/28/2016 4:39:47 PM, Shukr wrote:
Why you disbelieve / believe in god ?

Take your time and share the best reason you can think of.

I cannot know what cannot be unambiguously defined.
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6/28/2016 7:06:33 PM
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At 6/28/2016 7:02:50 PM, Skepticalone wrote:
At 6/28/2016 4:39:47 PM, Shukr wrote:
Why you disbelieve / believe in god ?

Take your time and share the best reason you can think of.

I cannot know what cannot be unambiguously defined.

Darn Ignostics! ;P
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6/28/2016 7:07:34 PM
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At 6/28/2016 7:02:23 PM, bulproof wrote:
At 6/28/2016 6:37:57 PM, janesix wrote:
At 6/28/2016 4:39:47 PM, Shukr wrote:
Why you disbelieve / believe in god ?

Take your time and share the best reason you can think of.

I have two reasons to believe. One is personal experience.

The second is the recurrance of specific numbers in everything from the solar system to geometry to the speed of light.
WOW 186,000 mps recurs where?

432x432

Also the great pyramid encodes the speed of light.
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6/28/2016 7:11:28 PM
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At 6/28/2016 7:06:33 PM, Chaosism wrote:
At 6/28/2016 7:02:50 PM, Skepticalone wrote:
At 6/28/2016 4:39:47 PM, Shukr wrote:
Why you disbelieve / believe in god ?

Take your time and share the best reason you can think of.

I cannot know what cannot be unambiguously defined.

Darn Ignostics! ;P

Ikr!? :-)
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What the hell kind of coked up sideshow has this thread turned into. - Casten
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6/28/2016 7:12:36 PM
Posted: 5 months ago
At 6/28/2016 7:07:34 PM, janesix wrote:
At 6/28/2016 7:02:23 PM, bulproof wrote:
At 6/28/2016 6:37:57 PM, janesix wrote:
At 6/28/2016 4:39:47 PM, Shukr wrote:
Why you disbelieve / believe in god ?

Take your time and share the best reason you can think of.

I have two reasons to believe. One is personal experience.

The second is the recurrance of specific numbers in everything from the solar system to geometry to the speed of light.
WOW 186,000 mps recurs where?

432x432

Also the great pyramid encodes the speed of light.

Where do you see 432x432 on a regular basis?
The great pyramid? Are you talking of Cheops? it encodes 432x432 perhaps?
janesix
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6/28/2016 7:25:10 PM
Posted: 5 months ago
At 6/28/2016 7:12:36 PM, bulproof wrote:
At 6/28/2016 7:07:34 PM, janesix wrote:
At 6/28/2016 7:02:23 PM, bulproof wrote:
At 6/28/2016 6:37:57 PM, janesix wrote:
At 6/28/2016 4:39:47 PM, Shukr wrote:
Why you disbelieve / believe in god ?

Take your time and share the best reason you can think of.

I have two reasons to believe. One is personal experience.

The second is the recurrance of specific numbers in everything from the solar system to geometry to the speed of light.
WOW 186,000 mps recurs where?

432x432

Also the great pyramid encodes the speed of light.

Where do you see 432x432 on a regular basis?
The great pyramid? Are you talking of Cheops? it encodes 432x432 perhaps?
Actually it does, the great pyramid to the size of the northern hemisphere at a ratio of 43200 to 1.

But that isnt what i meant. The great pyramid is located at 299792 north which is the speed of light in m/s
bulproof
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6/28/2016 7:29:30 PM
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At 6/28/2016 7:25:10 PM, janesix wrote:
At 6/28/2016 7:12:36 PM, bulproof wrote:
At 6/28/2016 7:07:34 PM, janesix wrote:
At 6/28/2016 7:02:23 PM, bulproof wrote:
At 6/28/2016 6:37:57 PM, janesix wrote:
At 6/28/2016 4:39:47 PM, Shukr wrote:
Why you disbelieve / believe in god ?

Take your time and share the best reason you can think of.

I have two reasons to believe. One is personal experience.

The second is the recurrance of specific numbers in everything from the solar system to geometry to the speed of light.
WOW 186,000 mps recurs where?

432x432

Also the great pyramid encodes the speed of light.

Where do you see 432x432 on a regular basis?
The great pyramid? Are you talking of Cheops? it encodes 432x432 perhaps?
Actually it does, the great pyramid to the size of the northern hemisphere at a ratio of 43200 to 1.

But that isnt what i meant. The great pyramid is located at 299792 north which is the speed of light in m/s
Which part?
janesix
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6/28/2016 7:31:03 PM
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At 6/28/2016 7:29:30 PM, bulproof wrote:
At 6/28/2016 7:25:10 PM, janesix wrote:
At 6/28/2016 7:12:36 PM, bulproof wrote:
At 6/28/2016 7:07:34 PM, janesix wrote:
At 6/28/2016 7:02:23 PM, bulproof wrote:
At 6/28/2016 6:37:57 PM, janesix wrote:
At 6/28/2016 4:39:47 PM, Shukr wrote:
Why you disbelieve / believe in god ?

Take your time and share the best reason you can think of.

I have two reasons to believe. One is personal experience.

The second is the recurrance of specific numbers in everything from the solar system to geometry to the speed of light.
WOW 186,000 mps recurs where?

432x432

Also the great pyramid encodes the speed of light.

Where do you see 432x432 on a regular basis?
The great pyramid? Are you talking of Cheops? it encodes 432x432 perhaps?
Actually it does, the great pyramid to the size of the northern hemisphere at a ratio of 43200 to 1.

But that isnt what i meant. The great pyramid is located at 299792 north which is the speed of light in m/s
Which part?
Which part of what?
Chaosism
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6/28/2016 7:31:29 PM
Posted: 5 months ago
At 6/28/2016 7:29:30 PM, bulproof wrote:
At 6/28/2016 7:25:10 PM, janesix wrote:
At 6/28/2016 7:12:36 PM, bulproof wrote:
At 6/28/2016 7:07:34 PM, janesix wrote:
At 6/28/2016 7:02:23 PM, bulproof wrote:
At 6/28/2016 6:37:57 PM, janesix wrote:
At 6/28/2016 4:39:47 PM, Shukr wrote:
Why you disbelieve / believe in god ?

Take your time and share the best reason you can think of.

I have two reasons to believe. One is personal experience.

The second is the recurrance of specific numbers in everything from the solar system to geometry to the speed of light.
WOW 186,000 mps recurs where?

432x432

Also the great pyramid encodes the speed of light.

Where do you see 432x432 on a regular basis?
The great pyramid? Are you talking of Cheops? it encodes 432x432 perhaps?
Actually it does, the great pyramid to the size of the northern hemisphere at a ratio of 43200 to 1.

But that isnt what i meant. The great pyramid is located at 299792 north which is the speed of light in m/s
Which part?

This should help: http://world-pyramids.com...
lovesnivy
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6/28/2016 7:48:18 PM
Posted: 5 months ago
At 6/28/2016 4:39:47 PM, Shukr wrote:
Why you disbelieve / believe in god ?

Take your time and share the best reason you can think of.

I do not belive in God because the religious books:
1. It always has ridiculous stunts that could never happen in real life and
2. Do not have any evidence to support them. In fact, quite the contrary.
janesix
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6/28/2016 8:13:57 PM
Posted: 5 months ago
At 6/28/2016 7:31:29 PM, Chaosism wrote:
At 6/28/2016 7:29:30 PM, bulproof wrote:
At 6/28/2016 7:25:10 PM, janesix wrote:
At 6/28/2016 7:12:36 PM, bulproof wrote:
At 6/28/2016 7:07:34 PM, janesix wrote:
At 6/28/2016 7:02:23 PM, bulproof wrote:
At 6/28/2016 6:37:57 PM, janesix wrote:
At 6/28/2016 4:39:47 PM, Shukr wrote:
Why you disbelieve / believe in god ?

Take your time and share the best reason you can think of.

I have two reasons to believe. One is personal experience.

The second is the recurrance of specific numbers in everything from the solar system to geometry to the speed of light.
WOW 186,000 mps recurs where?

432x432

Also the great pyramid encodes the speed of light.

Where do you see 432x432 on a regular basis?
The great pyramid? Are you talking of Cheops? it encodes 432x432 perhaps?
Actually it does, the great pyramid to the size of the northern hemisphere at a ratio of 43200 to 1.

But that isnt what i meant. The great pyramid is located at 299792 north which is the speed of light in m/s
Which part?

This should help: http://world-pyramids.com...

Thanks.
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6/28/2016 8:23:43 PM
Posted: 5 months ago
At 6/28/2016 8:13:57 PM, janesix wrote:
At 6/28/2016 7:31:29 PM, Chaosism wrote:
At 6/28/2016 7:29:30 PM, bulproof wrote:
At 6/28/2016 7:25:10 PM, janesix wrote:
At 6/28/2016 7:12:36 PM, bulproof wrote:
At 6/28/2016 7:07:34 PM, janesix wrote:
At 6/28/2016 7:02:23 PM, bulproof wrote:
At 6/28/2016 6:37:57 PM, janesix wrote:
At 6/28/2016 4:39:47 PM, Shukr wrote:
Why you disbelieve / believe in god ?

Take your time and share the best reason you can think of.

I have two reasons to believe. One is personal experience.

The second is the recurrance of specific numbers in everything from the solar system to geometry to the speed of light.
WOW 186,000 mps recurs where?

432x432

Also the great pyramid encodes the speed of light.

Where do you see 432x432 on a regular basis?
The great pyramid? Are you talking of Cheops? it encodes 432x432 perhaps?
Actually it does, the great pyramid to the size of the northern hemisphere at a ratio of 43200 to 1.

But that isnt what i meant. The great pyramid is located at 299792 north which is the speed of light in m/s
Which part?

This should help: http://world-pyramids.com...

Thanks.
What a wank.
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6/28/2016 8:30:56 PM
Posted: 5 months ago
At 6/28/2016 8:23:43 PM, bulproof wrote:
At 6/28/2016 8:13:57 PM, janesix wrote:
At 6/28/2016 7:31:29 PM, Chaosism wrote:
At 6/28/2016 7:29:30 PM, bulproof wrote:
At 6/28/2016 7:25:10 PM, janesix wrote:
At 6/28/2016 7:12:36 PM, bulproof wrote:
At 6/28/2016 7:07:34 PM, janesix wrote:
At 6/28/2016 7:02:23 PM, bulproof wrote:
At 6/28/2016 6:37:57 PM, janesix wrote:
At 6/28/2016 4:39:47 PM, Shukr wrote:
Why you disbelieve / believe in god ?

Take your time and share the best reason you can think of.

I have two reasons to believe. One is personal experience.

The second is the recurrance of specific numbers in everything from the solar system to geometry to the speed of light.
WOW 186,000 mps recurs where?

432x432

Also the great pyramid encodes the speed of light.

Where do you see 432x432 on a regular basis?
The great pyramid? Are you talking of Cheops? it encodes 432x432 perhaps?
Actually it does, the great pyramid to the size of the northern hemisphere at a ratio of 43200 to 1.

But that isnt what i meant. The great pyramid is located at 299792 north which is the speed of light in m/s
Which part?

This should help: http://world-pyramids.com...

Thanks.
What a wank.
Go fvck yourself bul
You are living in a delusion and you're proud of that. You're the wank.
Skyangel
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6/29/2016 1:12:08 AM
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At 6/28/2016 4:39:47 PM, Shukr wrote:
Why you disbelieve / believe in god ?

Take your time and share the best reason you can think of.

Invisible gods with supernatural powers are mythical characters.
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6/29/2016 5:01:57 AM
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At 6/28/2016 4:39:47 PM, Shukr wrote:
Why you disbelieve / believe in god ?

Take your time and share the best reason you can think of.

Atheism is an abomination to the psychological hierarchy of needs, and so much so, as atheism has increased, suicides have went through the roof.
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6/29/2016 5:23:48 AM
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At 6/28/2016 4:39:47 PM, Shukr wrote:
Why you disbelieve / believe in god ?

Take your time and share the best reason you can think of.

Disbelieve. It doesn't make sense.

I don't think science answers truth though...
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6/29/2016 5:28:25 AM
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At 6/29/2016 5:01:57 AM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 6/28/2016 4:39:47 PM, Shukr wrote:
Why you disbelieve / believe in god ?

Take your time and share the best reason you can think of.

Atheism is an abomination to the psychological hierarchy of needs, and so much so, as atheism has increased, suicides have went through the roof.
Most of the deaths attributed to falling through a roof are accidents not suicides.
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6/29/2016 9:44:13 AM
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At 6/28/2016 7:25:10 PM, janesix wrote:
At 6/28/2016 7:12:36 PM, bulproof wrote:
At 6/28/2016 7:07:34 PM, janesix wrote:
At 6/28/2016 7:02:23 PM, bulproof wrote:
At 6/28/2016 6:37:57 PM, janesix wrote:
At 6/28/2016 4:39:47 PM, Shukr wrote:
Why you disbelieve / believe in god ?

Take your time and share the best reason you can think of.

I have two reasons to believe. One is personal experience.

The second is the recurrance of specific numbers in everything from the solar system to geometry to the speed of light.
WOW 186,000 mps recurs where?

432x432

Also the great pyramid encodes the speed of light.

Where do you see 432x432 on a regular basis?
The great pyramid? Are you talking of Cheops? it encodes 432x432 perhaps?
Actually it does, the great pyramid to the size of the northern hemisphere at a ratio of 43200 to 1.

But that isnt what i meant. The great pyramid is located at 299792 north which is the speed of light in m/s

The ancient Egyptians would have known nothing of miles, or seconds.
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6/29/2016 11:05:59 AM
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At 6/28/2016 4:39:47 PM, Shukr wrote:
Why you disbelieve / believe in god ?

Take your time and share the best reason you can think of.

Surely if it existed it would make its presence irrefutable, not just a matter of faith?
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6/29/2016 12:10:15 PM
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At 6/29/2016 11:05:59 AM, tarantula wrote:
At 6/28/2016 4:39:47 PM, Shukr wrote:
Why you disbelieve / believe in god ?

Take your time and share the best reason you can think of.

Surely if it existed it would make its presence irrefutable, not just a matter of faith?

And how can you refute its presence??
(:'j
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6/29/2016 1:10:30 PM
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At 6/29/2016 11:05:59 AM, tarantula wrote:
At 6/28/2016 4:39:47 PM, Shukr wrote:
Why you disbelieve / believe in god ?

Take your time and share the best reason you can think of.

Surely if it existed it would make its presence irrefutable, not just a matter of faith?

Why?
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6/29/2016 1:37:22 PM
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At 6/28/2016 4:39:47 PM, Shukr wrote:
Why you disbelieve / believe in god ?

Take your time and share the best reason you can think of.

I don't believe in God since there is no viable evidence to confirm that there is one. Grasping at straws, making up explanations or listening to anecdotes all tend to take a life of their own and lead the believer to believe anything that may circulate at any given time. This is how we get religion and it didn't take long for it to get ridiculously incredulous.
I will be the first to get down on my knees if a giant finger points through the clouds at me or I see a piano fall out of the sky onto somebody.