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6/29/2016 3:31:35 AM
Posted: 5 months ago
Can God bless a godless America?

-The White House is waging an all-out assault on religious liberty. Public schools are indoctrinating our children with the gospel of secularism. Hollywood is spewing toxins into our homes. The soundtrack of our lives is a pulsating mix of sex and violence and filth. The American family is in ruins. What was once wrong is now right and what was once right is now wrong.

Our nation stands on a precipice. Freedom hangs in the balance. We live in a postmodern and post-God nation. The perfect storm is brewing. Do not be deceived. There may be a war on religious liberty, but the true target is Christianity.

Tony Perkins, president of the Family Research Council, and Kelly Shackelford, president of Liberty Institute, penned an open letter to the American people last year. Hostility against religious liberty has reached an all-time high, they warned. The freedom of religion is being pushed out of public life, schools and even churches.

http://www.foxnews.com...

-Russian President Vladimir Putin"condemned the West, including the United States, for eschewing Christian values and opting instead for a "path to degradation."

In his State of the Nation speech last month, Putin asserted that, "Many Euro-Atlantic countries have moved away from their roots, including Christian values" Policies are being pursued that place on the same level a multi-child family and a same-sex partnership, a faith in God and a belief in Satan." Russia has adopted new laws that ban homosexual propaganda and criminalizes the insulting of religious sensibilities.

http://www.breitbart.com...

http://www.inquisitr.com...

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Joseph Stalin outlined how to destroy America-

"If we (the Communist) can destroy America's religion and morality, that is a key to undermining their culture and society. "Then America will crumble from within.""
-Joseph Stalin, ruthless ruler of the Soviet Union

Communist Goals from 1958
A book titled "The Naked Communist" was published in 1958, which"outlined"Communist goals of the"Communist Party to take over America. "Primary goals were to take over key positions in education, the media and government from which they could start to mold public opinion to favor Socialism. "Here are some of the numbered goals"printed on pages 259-262.

28. "Eliminate prayer or any phase of religious expression in the schools on the ground that it violates the principle of "separation of church and state." "

17. "Get control of the schools. "Use them as transmission belts for socialism and current Communist propaganda. "Soften the curriculum. "Get control of teacher's associations. "Put the party line in textbooks.

24. "Eliminate all laws governing obscenity by calling them "censorship" and a violation of free speech and free press.
25. "Break down cultural standards of morality by promoting pornography and obscenity in books, magazines, motion pictures, radio and TV. "
26. "Present homo-sexuality, degeneracy and promiscuity as "normal, natural, healthy."

27. "Infiltrate the churches and replace revealed religion with "social" religion. "Discredit the Bible and emphasize the need for intellectual maturity which does not need a "religious crutch." "

40. "Discredit the family as an institution. "Encourage promiscuity and easy divorce.
41. "Emphasize the need to raise children away from the negative influence of parents. "Attribute prejudices, mental blocks and retarding of children to suppressive influence of parents.

*

The True Story of How the Communist got Prayer and Bible Reading Removed from our Public Schools.

From William Murray's book Let Us Pray. "William Murray's mother was Madalyn O'Hair who brought the school prayer issue before the U.S. Supreme Court back in 1963. " The following is a first hand eyewitness account how this atheist Marxist got prayer removed from our public schools.......

www.shemitah-blood-moons.net/godless.html
"What Donald Trump is doing is representing the absolute heartbreak, and anger, and frustration at a government gone mad."

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6/29/2016 3:38:20 AM
Posted: 5 months ago
Atheism has always existed, there's no reason that this has harmed the US in the process.
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6/29/2016 3:40:20 AM
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6/29/2016 5:11:09 AM
Posted: 5 months ago
At 6/29/2016 3:31:35 AM, brontoraptor wrote:
Can God bless a godless America?

-The White House is waging an all-out assault on religious liberty. Public schools are indoctrinating our children with the gospel of secularism. Hollywood is spewing toxins into our homes. The soundtrack of our lives is a pulsating mix of sex and violence and filth. The American family is in ruins. What was once wrong is now right and what was once right is now wrong.

Our nation stands on a precipice. Freedom hangs in the balance. We live in a postmodern and post-God nation. The perfect storm is brewing. Do not be deceived. There may be a war on religious liberty, but the true target is Christianity.

Tony Perkins, president of the Family Research Council, and Kelly Shackelford, president of Liberty Institute, penned an open letter to the American people last year. Hostility against religious liberty has reached an all-time high, they warned. The freedom of religion is being pushed out of public life, schools and even churches.

http://www.foxnews.com...

-Russian President Vladimir Putin"condemned the West, including the United States, for eschewing Christian values and opting instead for a "path to degradation."

In his State of the Nation speech last month, Putin asserted that, "Many Euro-Atlantic countries have moved away from their roots, including Christian values" Policies are being pursued that place on the same level a multi-child family and a same-sex partnership, a faith in God and a belief in Satan." Russia has adopted new laws that ban homosexual propaganda and criminalizes the insulting of religious sensibilities.

http://www.breitbart.com...

http://www.inquisitr.com...

*

Joseph Stalin outlined how to destroy America-

"If we (the Communist) can destroy America's religion and morality, that is a key to undermining their culture and society. "Then America will crumble from within.""
-Joseph Stalin, ruthless ruler of the Soviet Union

Communist Goals from 1958
A book titled "The Naked Communist" was published in 1958, which"outlined"Communist goals of the"Communist Party to take over America. "Primary goals were to take over key positions in education, the media and government from which they could start to mold public opinion to favor Socialism. "Here are some of the numbered goals"printed on pages 259-262.

28. "Eliminate prayer or any phase of religious expression in the schools on the ground that it violates the principle of "separation of church and state." "

17. "Get control of the schools. "Use them as transmission belts for socialism and current Communist propaganda. "Soften the curriculum. "Get control of teacher's associations. "Put the party line in textbooks.

24. "Eliminate all laws governing obscenity by calling them "censorship" and a violation of free speech and free press.
25. "Break down cultural standards of morality by promoting pornography and obscenity in books, magazines, motion pictures, radio and TV. "
26. "Present homo-sexuality, degeneracy and promiscuity as "normal, natural, healthy."

27. "Infiltrate the churches and replace revealed religion with "social" religion. "Discredit the Bible and emphasize the need for intellectual maturity which does not need a "religious crutch." "

40. "Discredit the family as an institution. "Encourage promiscuity and easy divorce.
41. "Emphasize the need to raise children away from the negative influence of parents. "Attribute prejudices, mental blocks and retarding of children to suppressive influence of parents.

*

The True Story of How the Communist got Prayer and Bible Reading Removed from our Public Schools.

From William Murray's book Let Us Pray. "William Murray's mother was Madalyn O'Hair who brought the school prayer issue before the U.S. Supreme Court back in 1963. " The following is a first hand eyewitness account how this atheist Marxist got prayer removed from our public schools.......

www.shemitah-blood-moons.net/godless.html

tl;dr

The United states is ~70% Christian so "Hollywood spewing toxins into our homes, the soundtrack of our lives pulsating a mix of sex and violence and filth, the American family in ruins" is completely being embraced and contributed to by Christians.

Why don't you just be honest with yourself and admit that what you see as horrible and wrong is generally not viewed the same by other Christians and the state of America has more to do with the majority (Christians) rather than atheists.
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6/29/2016 12:07:17 PM
Posted: 5 months ago
Can God bless a godless America?

I am under the impression that God can do anything He wants.

-The White House is waging an all-out assault on religious liberty. Public schools are indoctrinating our children with the gospel of secularism. Hollywood is spewing toxins into our homes. The soundtrack of our lives is a pulsating mix of sex and violence and filth. The American family is in ruins. What was once wrong is now right and what was once right is now wrong.

If the majority of the country is Christian, whom must be producing, buying, and selling all this? Could it be the majority of the population?

Our nation stands on a precipice. Freedom hangs in the balance. We live in a postmodern and post-God nation. The perfect storm is brewing. Do not be deceived. There may be a war on religious liberty, but the true target is Christianity.

Well, you guys wrote the book on marginalization of minorities, I guess you would know it when you see it.

Tony Perkins, president of the Family Research Council, and Kelly Shackelford, president of Liberty Institute, penned an open letter to the American people last year. Hostility against religious liberty has reached an all-time high, they warned. The freedom of religion is being pushed out of public life, schools and even churches.

http://www.foxnews.com...

-Russian President Vladimir Putin"condemned the West, including the United States, for eschewing Christian values and opting instead for a "path to degradation."

In his State of the Nation speech last month, Putin asserted that, "Many Euro-Atlantic countries have moved away from their roots, including Christian values" Policies are being pursued that place on the same level a multi-child family and a same-sex partnership, a faith in God and a belief in Satan." Russia has adopted new laws that ban homosexual propaganda and criminalizes the insulting of religious sensibilities.

http://www.breitbart.com...

http://www.inquisitr.com...


Joseph Stalin outlined how to destroy America-

"If we (the Communist) can destroy America's religion and morality, that is a key to undermining their culture and society. "Then America will crumble from within.""
-Joseph Stalin, ruthless ruler of the Soviet Union

Do you think Stalin was tacitly admitting his own country had no morality, and that religion was a requirement?

Communist Goals from 1958
A book titled "The Naked Communist" was published in 1958, which"outlined"Communist goals of the"Communist Party to take over America. "Primary goals were to take over key positions in education, the media and government from which they could start to mold public opinion to favor Socialism. "Here are some of the numbered goals"printed on pages 259-262.

28. "Eliminate prayer or any phase of religious expression in the schools on the ground that it violates the principle of "separation of church and state." "

Students can do whatever they want, religiously. No one can prevent them. The school, however, is not allowed to lead it.

17. "Get control of the schools. "Use them as transmission belts for socialism and current Communist propaganda. "Soften the curriculum. "Get control of teacher's associations. "Put the party line in textbooks. "

Interesting. What thus far do you think is a good representative of that?

24. "Eliminate all laws governing obscenity by calling them "censorship" and a violation of free speech and free press.

How do you feel that is working, thus far?

25. "Break down cultural standards of morality by promoting pornography and obscenity in books, magazines, motion pictures, radio and TV. "

Again, how do you think that is working, thus far?

26. "Present homo-sexuality, degeneracy and promiscuity as "normal, natural, healthy."

I can grant 1 of the three in that, but your bias was plainly revealed in the process.

27. "Infiltrate the churches and replace revealed religion with "social" religion. "Discredit the Bible and emphasize the need for intellectual maturity which does not need a "religious crutch." "

You don't think some people use religion as a crutch? Its a stick of wood, religion. It can be used to hit others or to help one self.


40. "Discredit the family as an institution. "Encourage promiscuity and easy divorce. "

Not sure how one relates to the other, really.

41. "Emphasize the need to raise children away from the negative influence of parents. "Attribute prejudices, mental blocks and retarding of children to suppressive influence of parents.

... is this something you honestly feel is happening?


*

The True Story of How the Communist got Prayer and Bible Reading Removed from our Public Schools.

From William Murray's book Let Us Pray. "William Murray's mother was Madalyn O'Hair who brought the school prayer issue before the U.S. Supreme Court back in 1963. " The following is a first hand eyewitness account how this atheist Marxist got prayer removed from our public schools.......

www.shemitah-blood-moons.net/godless.html

As led by the school. Literally nothing prevents a student from reading the Bible on their own.
Here we have an advocate for Islamic arranged marriages demonstrating that children can consent to sex.
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6/29/2016 1:24:07 PM
Posted: 5 months ago
At 6/29/2016 3:38:20 AM, lannan13 wrote:
Atheism has always existed, there's no reason that this has harmed the US in the process.

It's on a steep incline. Christianity was 86% in 1990. Now it's 69%
"What Donald Trump is doing is representing the absolute heartbreak, and anger, and frustration at a government gone mad."

http://youtu.be...
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6/29/2016 1:25:10 PM
Posted: 5 months ago
At 6/29/2016 12:07:17 PM, FaustianJustice wrote:
Can God bless a godless America?

I am under the impression that God can do anything He wants.

-The White House is waging an all-out assault on religious liberty. Public schools are indoctrinating our children with the gospel of secularism. Hollywood is spewing toxins into our homes. The soundtrack of our lives is a pulsating mix of sex and violence and filth. The American family is in ruins. What was once wrong is now right and what was once right is now wrong.

If the majority of the country is Christian, whom must be producing, buying, and selling all this? Could it be the majority of the population?

Our nation stands on a precipice. Freedom hangs in the balance. We live in a postmodern and post-God nation. The perfect storm is brewing. Do not be deceived. There may be a war on religious liberty, but the true target is Christianity.

Well, you guys wrote the book on marginalization of minorities, I guess you would know it when you see it.

Tony Perkins, president of the Family Research Council, and Kelly Shackelford, president of Liberty Institute, penned an open letter to the American people last year. Hostility against religious liberty has reached an all-time high, they warned. The freedom of religion is being pushed out of public life, schools and even churches.

http://www.foxnews.com...

-Russian President Vladimir Putin"condemned the West, including the United States, for eschewing Christian values and opting instead for a "path to degradation."

In his State of the Nation speech last month, Putin asserted that, "Many Euro-Atlantic countries have moved away from their roots, including Christian values" Policies are being pursued that place on the same level a multi-child family and a same-sex partnership, a faith in God and a belief in Satan." Russia has adopted new laws that ban homosexual propaganda and criminalizes the insulting of religious sensibilities.

http://www.breitbart.com...

http://www.inquisitr.com...


Joseph Stalin outlined how to destroy America-

"If we (the Communist) can destroy America's religion and morality, that is a key to undermining their culture and society. "Then America will crumble from within.""
-Joseph Stalin, ruthless ruler of the Soviet Union

Do you think Stalin was tacitly admitting his own country had no morality, and that religion was a requirement?

Communist Goals from 1958
A book titled "The Naked Communist" was published in 1958, which"outlined"Communist goals of the"Communist Party to take over America. "Primary goals were to take over key positions in education, the media and government from which they could start to mold public opinion to favor Socialism. "Here are some of the numbered goals"printed on pages 259-262.

28. "Eliminate prayer or any phase of religious expression in the schools on the ground that it violates the principle of "separation of church and state." "

Students can do whatever they want, religiously. No one can prevent them. The school, however, is not allowed to lead it.

17. "Get control of the schools. "Use them as transmission belts for socialism and current Communist propaganda. "Soften the curriculum. "Get control of teacher's associations. "Put the party line in textbooks. "

Interesting. What thus far do you think is a good representative of that?

24. "Eliminate all laws governing obscenity by calling them "censorship" and a violation of free speech and free press.

How do you feel that is working, thus far?

25. "Break down cultural standards of morality by promoting pornography and obscenity in books, magazines, motion pictures, radio and TV. "

Again, how do you think that is working, thus far?

26. "Present homo-sexuality, degeneracy and promiscuity as "normal, natural, healthy."

I can grant 1 of the three in that, but your bias was plainly revealed in the process.

27. "Infiltrate the churches and replace revealed religion with "social" religion. "Discredit the Bible and emphasize the need for intellectual maturity which does not need a "religious crutch." "

You don't think some people use religion as a crutch? Its a stick of wood, religion. It can be used to hit others or to help one self.


40. "Discredit the family as an institution. "Encourage promiscuity and easy divorce. "

Not sure how one relates to the other, really.

41. "Emphasize the need to raise children away from the negative influence of parents. "Attribute prejudices, mental blocks and retarding of children to suppressive influence of parents.

... is this something you honestly feel is happening?


*

The True Story of How the Communist got Prayer and Bible Reading Removed from our Public Schools.

From William Murray's book Let Us Pray. "William Murray's mother was Madalyn O'Hair who brought the school prayer issue before the U.S. Supreme Court back in 1963. " The following is a first hand eyewitness account how this atheist Marxist got prayer removed from our public schools.......

www.shemitah-blood-moons.net/godless.html

As led by the school. Literally nothing prevents a student from reading the Bible on their own.

The majority isn't running this country.
"What Donald Trump is doing is representing the absolute heartbreak, and anger, and frustration at a government gone mad."

http://youtu.be...
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6/29/2016 1:41:21 PM
Posted: 5 months ago
At 6/29/2016 1:25:10 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 6/29/2016 12:07:17 PM, FaustianJustice wrote:
Can God bless a godless America?

I am under the impression that God can do anything He wants.

-The White House is waging an all-out assault on religious liberty. Public schools are indoctrinating our children with the gospel of secularism. Hollywood is spewing toxins into our homes. The soundtrack of our lives is a pulsating mix of sex and violence and filth. The American family is in ruins. What was once wrong is now right and what was once right is now wrong.

If the majority of the country is Christian, whom must be producing, buying, and selling all this? Could it be the majority of the population?

Our nation stands on a precipice. Freedom hangs in the balance. We live in a postmodern and post-God nation. The perfect storm is brewing. Do not be deceived. There may be a war on religious liberty, but the true target is Christianity.

Well, you guys wrote the book on marginalization of minorities, I guess you would know it when you see it.

Tony Perkins, president of the Family Research Council, and Kelly Shackelford, president of Liberty Institute, penned an open letter to the American people last year. Hostility against religious liberty has reached an all-time high, they warned. The freedom of religion is being pushed out of public life, schools and even churches.

http://www.foxnews.com...

-Russian President Vladimir Putin"condemned the West, including the United States, for eschewing Christian values and opting instead for a "path to degradation."

In his State of the Nation speech last month, Putin asserted that, "Many Euro-Atlantic countries have moved away from their roots, including Christian values" Policies are being pursued that place on the same level a multi-child family and a same-sex partnership, a faith in God and a belief in Satan." Russia has adopted new laws that ban homosexual propaganda and criminalizes the insulting of religious sensibilities.

http://www.breitbart.com...

http://www.inquisitr.com...


Joseph Stalin outlined how to destroy America-

"If we (the Communist) can destroy America's religion and morality, that is a key to undermining their culture and society. "Then America will crumble from within.""
-Joseph Stalin, ruthless ruler of the Soviet Union

Do you think Stalin was tacitly admitting his own country had no morality, and that religion was a requirement?

Communist Goals from 1958
A book titled "The Naked Communist" was published in 1958, which"outlined"Communist goals of the"Communist Party to take over America. "Primary goals were to take over key positions in education, the media and government from which they could start to mold public opinion to favor Socialism. "Here are some of the numbered goals"printed on pages 259-262.

28. "Eliminate prayer or any phase of religious expression in the schools on the ground that it violates the principle of "separation of church and state." "

Students can do whatever they want, religiously. No one can prevent them. The school, however, is not allowed to lead it.

17. "Get control of the schools. "Use them as transmission belts for socialism and current Communist propaganda. "Soften the curriculum. "Get control of teacher's associations. "Put the party line in textbooks. "

Interesting. What thus far do you think is a good representative of that?

24. "Eliminate all laws governing obscenity by calling them "censorship" and a violation of free speech and free press.

How do you feel that is working, thus far?

25. "Break down cultural standards of morality by promoting pornography and obscenity in books, magazines, motion pictures, radio and TV. "

Again, how do you think that is working, thus far?

26. "Present homo-sexuality, degeneracy and promiscuity as "normal, natural, healthy."

I can grant 1 of the three in that, but your bias was plainly revealed in the process.

27. "Infiltrate the churches and replace revealed religion with "social" religion. "Discredit the Bible and emphasize the need for intellectual maturity which does not need a "religious crutch." "

You don't think some people use religion as a crutch? Its a stick of wood, religion. It can be used to hit others or to help one self.


40. "Discredit the family as an institution. "Encourage promiscuity and easy divorce. "

Not sure how one relates to the other, really.

41. "Emphasize the need to raise children away from the negative influence of parents. "Attribute prejudices, mental blocks and retarding of children to suppressive influence of parents.

... is this something you honestly feel is happening?


*

The True Story of How the Communist got Prayer and Bible Reading Removed from our Public Schools.

From William Murray's book Let Us Pray. "William Murray's mother was Madalyn O'Hair who brought the school prayer issue before the U.S. Supreme Court back in 1963. " The following is a first hand eyewitness account how this atheist Marxist got prayer removed from our public schools.......

www.shemitah-blood-moons.net/godless.html

As led by the school. Literally nothing prevents a student from reading the Bible on their own.

The majority isn't running this country.

Are you insinuating wide spread voter fraud, and that the people whom are on the SC, in the House, Senate, and White House are not majority Christian?
Here we have an advocate for Islamic arranged marriages demonstrating that children can consent to sex.
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6/29/2016 1:42:33 PM
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At 6/29/2016 5:11:09 AM, Skepticalone wrote:
At 6/29/2016 3:31:35 AM, brontoraptor wrote:
Can God bless a godless America?

-The White House is waging an all-out assault on religious liberty. Public schools are indoctrinating our children with the gospel of secularism. Hollywood is spewing toxins into our homes. The soundtrack of our lives is a pulsating mix of sex and violence and filth. The American family is in ruins. What was once wrong is now right and what was once right is now wrong.

Our nation stands on a precipice. Freedom hangs in the balance. We live in a postmodern and post-God nation. The perfect storm is brewing. Do not be deceived. There may be a war on religious liberty, but the true target is Christianity.

Tony Perkins, president of the Family Research Council, and Kelly Shackelford, president of Liberty Institute, penned an open letter to the American people last year. Hostility against religious liberty has reached an all-time high, they warned. The freedom of religion is being pushed out of public life, schools and even churches.

http://www.foxnews.com...

-Russian President Vladimir Putin"condemned the West, including the United States, for eschewing Christian values and opting instead for a "path to degradation."

In his State of the Nation speech last month, Putin asserted that, "Many Euro-Atlantic countries have moved away from their roots, including Christian values" Policies are being pursued that place on the same level a multi-child family and a same-sex partnership, a faith in God and a belief in Satan." Russia has adopted new laws that ban homosexual propaganda and criminalizes the insulting of religious sensibilities.

http://www.breitbart.com...

http://www.inquisitr.com...

*

Joseph Stalin outlined how to destroy America-

"If we (the Communist) can destroy America's religion and morality, that is a key to undermining their culture and society. "Then America will crumble from within.""
-Joseph Stalin, ruthless ruler of the Soviet Union

Communist Goals from 1958
A book titled "The Naked Communist" was published in 1958, which"outlined"Communist goals of the"Communist Party to take over America. "Primary goals were to take over key positions in education, the media and government from which they could start to mold public opinion to favor Socialism. "Here are some of the numbered goals"printed on pages 259-262.

28. "Eliminate prayer or any phase of religious expression in the schools on the ground that it violates the principle of "separation of church and state." "

17. "Get control of the schools. "Use them as transmission belts for socialism and current Communist propaganda. "Soften the curriculum. "Get control of teacher's associations. "Put the party line in textbooks.

24. "Eliminate all laws governing obscenity by calling them "censorship" and a violation of free speech and free press.
25. "Break down cultural standards of morality by promoting pornography and obscenity in books, magazines, motion pictures, radio and TV. "
26. "Present homo-sexuality, degeneracy and promiscuity as "normal, natural, healthy."

27. "Infiltrate the churches and replace revealed religion with "social" religion. "Discredit the Bible and emphasize the need for intellectual maturity which does not need a "religious crutch." "

40. "Discredit the family as an institution. "Encourage promiscuity and easy divorce.
41. "Emphasize the need to raise children away from the negative influence of parents. "Attribute prejudices, mental blocks and retarding of children to suppressive influence of parents.

*

The True Story of How the Communist got Prayer and Bible Reading Removed from our Public Schools.

From William Murray's book Let Us Pray. "William Murray's mother was Madalyn O'Hair who brought the school prayer issue before the U.S. Supreme Court back in 1963. " The following is a first hand eyewitness account how this atheist Marxist got prayer removed from our public schools.......

www.shemitah-blood-moons.net/godless.html

tl;dr

The United states is ~70% Christian so "Hollywood spewing toxins into our homes, the soundtrack of our lives pulsating a mix of sex and violence and filth, the American family in ruins" is completely being embraced and contributed to by Christians.

Why don't you just be honest with yourself and admit that what you see as horrible and wrong is generally not viewed the same by other Christians and the state of America has more to do with the majority (Christians) rather than atheists.

One of the problems with Christianity today is that you generally can't tell the difference between a Christian and a non Christian in many cases. Christians are supposed to stand out as being different, so to say that a certain percentage of a population is Christian is misleading because many talk the talk but don't walk the walk which leads one to question whether or not they truly love the Lord.
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6/29/2016 1:55:24 PM
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At 6/29/2016 1:41:21 PM, FaustianJustice wrote:
At 6/29/2016 1:25:10 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 6/29/2016 12:07:17 PM, FaustianJustice wrote:
Can God bless a godless America?

I am under the impression that God can do anything He wants.

-The White House is waging an all-out assault on religious liberty. Public schools are indoctrinating our children with the gospel of secularism. Hollywood is spewing toxins into our homes. The soundtrack of our lives is a pulsating mix of sex and violence and filth. The American family is in ruins. What was once wrong is now right and what was once right is now wrong.

If the majority of the country is Christian, whom must be producing, buying, and selling all this? Could it be the majority of the population?

Our nation stands on a precipice. Freedom hangs in the balance. We live in a postmodern and post-God nation. The perfect storm is brewing. Do not be deceived. There may be a war on religious liberty, but the true target is Christianity.

Well, you guys wrote the book on marginalization of minorities, I guess you would know it when you see it.

Tony Perkins, president of the Family Research Council, and Kelly Shackelford, president of Liberty Institute, penned an open letter to the American people last year. Hostility against religious liberty has reached an all-time high, they warned. The freedom of religion is being pushed out of public life, schools and even churches.

http://www.foxnews.com...

-Russian President Vladimir Putin"condemned the West, including the United States, for eschewing Christian values and opting instead for a "path to degradation."

In his State of the Nation speech last month, Putin asserted that, "Many Euro-Atlantic countries have moved away from their roots, including Christian values" Policies are being pursued that place on the same level a multi-child family and a same-sex partnership, a faith in God and a belief in Satan." Russia has adopted new laws that ban homosexual propaganda and criminalizes the insulting of religious sensibilities.

http://www.breitbart.com...

http://www.inquisitr.com...


Joseph Stalin outlined how to destroy America-

"If we (the Communist) can destroy America's religion and morality, that is a key to undermining their culture and society. "Then America will crumble from within.""
-Joseph Stalin, ruthless ruler of the Soviet Union

Do you think Stalin was tacitly admitting his own country had no morality, and that religion was a requirement?

Communist Goals from 1958
A book titled "The Naked Communist" was published in 1958, which"outlined"Communist goals of the"Communist Party to take over America. "Primary goals were to take over key positions in education, the media and government from which they could start to mold public opinion to favor Socialism. "Here are some of the numbered goals"printed on pages 259-262.

28. "Eliminate prayer or any phase of religious expression in the schools on the ground that it violates the principle of "separation of church and state." "

Students can do whatever they want, religiously. No one can prevent them. The school, however, is not allowed to lead it.

17. "Get control of the schools. "Use them as transmission belts for socialism and current Communist propaganda. "Soften the curriculum. "Get control of teacher's associations. "Put the party line in textbooks. "

Interesting. What thus far do you think is a good representative of that?

24. "Eliminate all laws governing obscenity by calling them "censorship" and a violation of free speech and free press.

How do you feel that is working, thus far?

25. "Break down cultural standards of morality by promoting pornography and obscenity in books, magazines, motion pictures, radio and TV. "

Again, how do you think that is working, thus far?

26. "Present homo-sexuality, degeneracy and promiscuity as "normal, natural, healthy."

I can grant 1 of the three in that, but your bias was plainly revealed in the process.

27. "Infiltrate the churches and replace revealed religion with "social" religion. "Discredit the Bible and emphasize the need for intellectual maturity which does not need a "religious crutch." "

You don't think some people use religion as a crutch? Its a stick of wood, religion. It can be used to hit others or to help one self.


40. "Discredit the family as an institution. "Encourage promiscuity and easy divorce. "

Not sure how one relates to the other, really.

41. "Emphasize the need to raise children away from the negative influence of parents. "Attribute prejudices, mental blocks and retarding of children to suppressive influence of parents.

... is this something you honestly feel is happening?


*

The True Story of How the Communist got Prayer and Bible Reading Removed from our Public Schools.

From William Murray's book Let Us Pray. "William Murray's mother was Madalyn O'Hair who brought the school prayer issue before the U.S. Supreme Court back in 1963. " The following is a first hand eyewitness account how this atheist Marxist got prayer removed from our public schools.......

www.shemitah-blood-moons.net/godless.html

As led by the school. Literally nothing prevents a student from reading the Bible on their own.

The majority isn't running this country.


Are you insinuating wide spread voter fraud, and that the people whom are on the SC, in the House, Senate, and White House are not majority Christian?

It's like liberals love to shout. Just vecause you are "of a religion, that doesn't mean you take it seriously." End of quote. This is in defense of Islam. If true shall it be applied in this case...
"What Donald Trump is doing is representing the absolute heartbreak, and anger, and frustration at a government gone mad."

http://youtu.be...
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6/29/2016 1:56:41 PM
Posted: 5 months ago
At 6/29/2016 1:41:21 PM, FaustianJustice wrote:
At 6/29/2016 1:25:10 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 6/29/2016 12:07:17 PM, FaustianJustice wrote:
Can God bless a godless America?

I am under the impression that God can do anything He wants.

-The White House is waging an all-out assault on religious liberty. Public schools are indoctrinating our children with the gospel of secularism. Hollywood is spewing toxins into our homes. The soundtrack of our lives is a pulsating mix of sex and violence and filth. The American family is in ruins. What was once wrong is now right and what was once right is now wrong.

If the majority of the country is Christian, whom must be producing, buying, and selling all this? Could it be the majority of the population?

Our nation stands on a precipice. Freedom hangs in the balance. We live in a postmodern and post-God nation. The perfect storm is brewing. Do not be deceived. There may be a war on religious liberty, but the true target is Christianity.

Well, you guys wrote the book on marginalization of minorities, I guess you would know it when you see it.

Tony Perkins, president of the Family Research Council, and Kelly Shackelford, president of Liberty Institute, penned an open letter to the American people last year. Hostility against religious liberty has reached an all-time high, they warned. The freedom of religion is being pushed out of public life, schools and even churches.

http://www.foxnews.com...

-Russian President Vladimir Putin"condemned the West, including the United States, for eschewing Christian values and opting instead for a "path to degradation."

In his State of the Nation speech last month, Putin asserted that, "Many Euro-Atlantic countries have moved away from their roots, including Christian values" Policies are being pursued that place on the same level a multi-child family and a same-sex partnership, a faith in God and a belief in Satan." Russia has adopted new laws that ban homosexual propaganda and criminalizes the insulting of religious sensibilities.

http://www.breitbart.com...

http://www.inquisitr.com...


Joseph Stalin outlined how to destroy America-

"If we (the Communist) can destroy America's religion and morality, that is a key to undermining their culture and society. "Then America will crumble from within.""
-Joseph Stalin, ruthless ruler of the Soviet Union

Do you think Stalin was tacitly admitting his own country had no morality, and that religion was a requirement?

Communist Goals from 1958
A book titled "The Naked Communist" was published in 1958, which"outlined"Communist goals of the"Communist Party to take over America. "Primary goals were to take over key positions in education, the media and government from which they could start to mold public opinion to favor Socialism. "Here are some of the numbered goals"printed on pages 259-262.

28. "Eliminate prayer or any phase of religious expression in the schools on the ground that it violates the principle of "separation of church and state." "

Students can do whatever they want, religiously. No one can prevent them. The school, however, is not allowed to lead it.

17. "Get control of the schools. "Use them as transmission belts for socialism and current Communist propaganda. "Soften the curriculum. "Get control of teacher's associations. "Put the party line in textbooks. "

Interesting. What thus far do you think is a good representative of that?

24. "Eliminate all laws governing obscenity by calling them "censorship" and a violation of free speech and free press.

How do you feel that is working, thus far?

25. "Break down cultural standards of morality by promoting pornography and obscenity in books, magazines, motion pictures, radio and TV. "

Again, how do you think that is working, thus far?

26. "Present homo-sexuality, degeneracy and promiscuity as "normal, natural, healthy."

I can grant 1 of the three in that, but your bias was plainly revealed in the process.

27. "Infiltrate the churches and replace revealed religion with "social" religion. "Discredit the Bible and emphasize the need for intellectual maturity which does not need a "religious crutch." "

You don't think some people use religion as a crutch? Its a stick of wood, religion. It can be used to hit others or to help one self.


40. "Discredit the family as an institution. "Encourage promiscuity and easy divorce. "

Not sure how one relates to the other, really.

41. "Emphasize the need to raise children away from the negative influence of parents. "Attribute prejudices, mental blocks and retarding of children to suppressive influence of parents.

... is this something you honestly feel is happening?


*

The True Story of How the Communist got Prayer and Bible Reading Removed from our Public Schools.

From William Murray's book Let Us Pray. "William Murray's mother was Madalyn O'Hair who brought the school prayer issue before the U.S. Supreme Court back in 1963. " The following is a first hand eyewitness account how this atheist Marxist got prayer removed from our public schools.......

www.shemitah-blood-moons.net/godless.html

As led by the school. Literally nothing prevents a student from reading the Bible on their own.

The majority isn't running this country.


Are you insinuating wide spread voter fraud, and that the people whom are on the SC, in the House, Senate, and White House are not majority Christian?

I made this one just for you faust.
"What Donald Trump is doing is representing the absolute heartbreak, and anger, and frustration at a government gone mad."

http://youtu.be...
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6/29/2016 1:57:37 PM
Posted: 5 months ago
At 6/29/2016 1:55:24 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 6/29/2016 1:41:21 PM, FaustianJustice wrote:
At 6/29/2016 1:25:10 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 6/29/2016 12:07:17 PM, FaustianJustice wrote:
Can God bless a godless America?

I am under the impression that God can do anything He wants.

-The White House is waging an all-out assault on religious liberty. Public schools are indoctrinating our children with the gospel of secularism. Hollywood is spewing toxins into our homes. The soundtrack of our lives is a pulsating mix of sex and violence and filth. The American family is in ruins. What was once wrong is now right and what was once right is now wrong.

If the majority of the country is Christian, whom must be producing, buying, and selling all this? Could it be the majority of the population?

Our nation stands on a precipice. Freedom hangs in the balance. We live in a postmodern and post-God nation. The perfect storm is brewing. Do not be deceived. There may be a war on religious liberty, but the true target is Christianity.

Well, you guys wrote the book on marginalization of minorities, I guess you would know it when you see it.

Tony Perkins, president of the Family Research Council, and Kelly Shackelford, president of Liberty Institute, penned an open letter to the American people last year. Hostility against religious liberty has reached an all-time high, they warned. The freedom of religion is being pushed out of public life, schools and even churches.

http://www.foxnews.com...

-Russian President Vladimir Putin"condemned the West, including the United States, for eschewing Christian values and opting instead for a "path to degradation."

In his State of the Nation speech last month, Putin asserted that, "Many Euro-Atlantic countries have moved away from their roots, including Christian values" Policies are being pursued that place on the same level a multi-child family and a same-sex partnership, a faith in God and a belief in Satan." Russia has adopted new laws that ban homosexual propaganda and criminalizes the insulting of religious sensibilities.

http://www.breitbart.com...

http://www.inquisitr.com...


Joseph Stalin outlined how to destroy America-

"If we (the Communist) can destroy America's religion and morality, that is a key to undermining their culture and society. "Then America will crumble from within.""
-Joseph Stalin, ruthless ruler of the Soviet Union

Do you think Stalin was tacitly admitting his own country had no morality, and that religion was a requirement?

Communist Goals from 1958
A book titled "The Naked Communist" was published in 1958, which"outlined"Communist goals of the"Communist Party to take over America. "Primary goals were to take over key positions in education, the media and government from which they could start to mold public opinion to favor Socialism. "Here are some of the numbered goals"printed on pages 259-262.

28. "Eliminate prayer or any phase of religious expression in the schools on the ground that it violates the principle of "separation of church and state." "

Students can do whatever they want, religiously. No one can prevent them. The school, however, is not allowed to lead it.

17. "Get control of the schools. "Use them as transmission belts for socialism and current Communist propaganda. "Soften the curriculum. "Get control of teacher's associations. "Put the party line in textbooks. "

Interesting. What thus far do you think is a good representative of that?

24. "Eliminate all laws governing obscenity by calling them "censorship" and a violation of free speech and free press.

How do you feel that is working, thus far?

25. "Break down cultural standards of morality by promoting pornography and obscenity in books, magazines, motion pictures, radio and TV. "

Again, how do you think that is working, thus far?

26. "Present homo-sexuality, degeneracy and promiscuity as "normal, natural, healthy."

I can grant 1 of the three in that, but your bias was plainly revealed in the process.

27. "Infiltrate the churches and replace revealed religion with "social" religion. "Discredit the Bible and emphasize the need for intellectual maturity which does not need a "religious crutch." "

You don't think some people use religion as a crutch? Its a stick of wood, religion. It can be used to hit others or to help one self.


40. "Discredit the family as an institution. "Encourage promiscuity and easy divorce. "

Not sure how one relates to the other, really.

41. "Emphasize the need to raise children away from the negative influence of parents. "Attribute prejudices, mental blocks and retarding of children to suppressive influence of parents.

... is this something you honestly feel is happening?


*

The True Story of How the Communist got Prayer and Bible Reading Removed from our Public Schools.

From William Murray's book Let Us Pray. "William Murray's mother was Madalyn O'Hair who brought the school prayer issue before the U.S. Supreme Court back in 1963. " The following is a first hand eyewitness account how this atheist Marxist got prayer removed from our public schools.......

www.shemitah-blood-moons.net/godless.html

As led by the school. Literally nothing prevents a student from reading the Bible on their own.

The majority isn't running this country.


Are you insinuating wide spread voter fraud, and that the people whom are on the SC, in the House, Senate, and White House are not majority Christian?

It's like liberals love to shout. Just vecause you are "of a religion, that doesn't mean you take it seriously." End of quote. This is in defense of Islam. If true shall it be applied in this case...

Okay, so you are claiming that people whom are on the SC, in the House, Senate, and White House, as well a majority of voters are not Christians, despite claiming they are, or at least aren't Christian enough.

For your tastes.
Here we have an advocate for Islamic arranged marriages demonstrating that children can consent to sex.
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6/29/2016 2:22:57 PM
Posted: 5 months ago
If America is failing its because our leaders, elected by a majority Christian population, have sold themselves and their votes to the highest bidders. Most of them claim to be Christian as well. Looks like God isn't doing his job and helping them to remain moral an upright.
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6/29/2016 2:39:13 PM
Posted: 5 months ago
At 6/29/2016 1:42:33 PM, rnjs wrote:
At 6/29/2016 5:11:09 AM, Skepticalone wrote:
At 6/29/2016 3:31:35 AM, brontoraptor wrote:
Can God bless a godless America?

-The White House is waging an all-out assault on religious liberty. Public schools are indoctrinating our children with the gospel of secularism. Hollywood is spewing toxins into our homes. The soundtrack of our lives is a pulsating mix of sex and violence and filth. The American family is in ruins. What was once wrong is now right and what was once right is now wrong.

Our nation stands on a precipice. Freedom hangs in the balance. We live in a postmodern and post-God nation. The perfect storm is brewing. Do not be deceived. There may be a war on religious liberty, but the true target is Christianity.

Tony Perkins, president of the Family Research Council, and Kelly Shackelford, president of Liberty Institute, penned an open letter to the American people last year. Hostility against religious liberty has reached an all-time high, they warned. The freedom of religion is being pushed out of public life, schools and even churches.

http://www.foxnews.com...

-Russian President Vladimir Putin"condemned the West, including the United States, for eschewing Christian values and opting instead for a "path to degradation."

In his State of the Nation speech last month, Putin asserted that, "Many Euro-Atlantic countries have moved away from their roots, including Christian values" Policies are being pursued that place on the same level a multi-child family and a same-sex partnership, a faith in God and a belief in Satan." Russia has adopted new laws that ban homosexual propaganda and criminalizes the insulting of religious sensibilities.

http://www.breitbart.com...

http://www.inquisitr.com...

*

Joseph Stalin outlined how to destroy America-

"If we (the Communist) can destroy America's religion and morality, that is a key to undermining their culture and society. "Then America will crumble from within.""
-Joseph Stalin, ruthless ruler of the Soviet Union

Communist Goals from 1958
A book titled "The Naked Communist" was published in 1958, which"outlined"Communist goals of the"Communist Party to take over America. "Primary goals were to take over key positions in education, the media and government from which they could start to mold public opinion to favor Socialism. "Here are some of the numbered goals"printed on pages 259-262.

28. "Eliminate prayer or any phase of religious expression in the schools on the ground that it violates the principle of "separation of church and state." "

17. "Get control of the schools. "Use them as transmission belts for socialism and current Communist propaganda. "Soften the curriculum. "Get control of teacher's associations. "Put the party line in textbooks.

24. "Eliminate all laws governing obscenity by calling them "censorship" and a violation of free speech and free press.
25. "Break down cultural standards of morality by promoting pornography and obscenity in books, magazines, motion pictures, radio and TV. "
26. "Present homo-sexuality, degeneracy and promiscuity as "normal, natural, healthy."

27. "Infiltrate the churches and replace revealed religion with "social" religion. "Discredit the Bible and emphasize the need for intellectual maturity which does not need a "religious crutch." "

40. "Discredit the family as an institution. "Encourage promiscuity and easy divorce.
41. "Emphasize the need to raise children away from the negative influence of parents. "Attribute prejudices, mental blocks and retarding of children to suppressive influence of parents.

*

The True Story of How the Communist got Prayer and Bible Reading Removed from our Public Schools.

From William Murray's book Let Us Pray. "William Murray's mother was Madalyn O'Hair who brought the school prayer issue before the U.S. Supreme Court back in 1963. " The following is a first hand eyewitness account how this atheist Marxist got prayer removed from our public schools.......

www.shemitah-blood-moons.net/godless.html

tl;dr

The United states is ~70% Christian so "Hollywood spewing toxins into our homes, the soundtrack of our lives pulsating a mix of sex and violence and filth, the American family in ruins" is completely being embraced and contributed to by Christians.

Why don't you just be honest with yourself and admit that what you see as horrible and wrong is generally not viewed the same by other Christians and the state of America has more to do with the majority (Christians) rather than atheists.

One of the problems with Christianity today is that you generally can't tell the difference between a Christian and a non Christian in many cases. Christians are supposed to stand out as being different, so to say that a certain percentage of a population is Christian is misleading because many talk the talk but don't walk the walk which leads one to question whether or not they truly love the Lord.

Irrelevant to the OP. Bad Christians are not atheists.
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6/29/2016 3:19:07 PM
Posted: 5 months ago
At 6/29/2016 2:39:13 PM, Skepticalone wrote:
At 6/29/2016 1:42:33 PM, rnjs wrote:
At 6/29/2016 5:11:09 AM, Skepticalone wrote:
At 6/29/2016 3:31:35 AM, brontoraptor wrote:
Can God bless a godless America?

-The White House is waging an all-out assault on religious liberty. Public schools are indoctrinating our children with the gospel of secularism. Hollywood is spewing toxins into our homes. The soundtrack of our lives is a pulsating mix of sex and violence and filth. The American family is in ruins. What was once wrong is now right and what was once right is now wrong.

Our nation stands on a precipice. Freedom hangs in the balance. We live in a postmodern and post-God nation. The perfect storm is brewing. Do not be deceived. There may be a war on religious liberty, but the true target is Christianity.

Tony Perkins, president of the Family Research Council, and Kelly Shackelford, president of Liberty Institute, penned an open letter to the American people last year. Hostility against religious liberty has reached an all-time high, they warned. The freedom of religion is being pushed out of public life, schools and even churches.

http://www.foxnews.com...

-Russian President Vladimir Putin"condemned the West, including the United States, for eschewing Christian values and opting instead for a "path to degradation."

In his State of the Nation speech last month, Putin asserted that, "Many Euro-Atlantic countries have moved away from their roots, including Christian values" Policies are being pursued that place on the same level a multi-child family and a same-sex partnership, a faith in God and a belief in Satan." Russia has adopted new laws that ban homosexual propaganda and criminalizes the insulting of religious sensibilities.

http://www.breitbart.com...

http://www.inquisitr.com...

*

Joseph Stalin outlined how to destroy America-

"If we (the Communist) can destroy America's religion and morality, that is a key to undermining their culture and society. "Then America will crumble from within.""
-Joseph Stalin, ruthless ruler of the Soviet Union

Communist Goals from 1958
A book titled "The Naked Communist" was published in 1958, which"outlined"Communist goals of the"Communist Party to take over America. "Primary goals were to take over key positions in education, the media and government from which they could start to mold public opinion to favor Socialism. "Here are some of the numbered goals"printed on pages 259-262.

28. "Eliminate prayer or any phase of religious expression in the schools on the ground that it violates the principle of "separation of church and state." "

17. "Get control of the schools. "Use them as transmission belts for socialism and current Communist propaganda. "Soften the curriculum. "Get control of teacher's associations. "Put the party line in textbooks.

24. "Eliminate all laws governing obscenity by calling them "censorship" and a violation of free speech and free press.
25. "Break down cultural standards of morality by promoting pornography and obscenity in books, magazines, motion pictures, radio and TV. "
26. "Present homo-sexuality, degeneracy and promiscuity as "normal, natural, healthy."

27. "Infiltrate the churches and replace revealed religion with "social" religion. "Discredit the Bible and emphasize the need for intellectual maturity which does not need a "religious crutch." "

40. "Discredit the family as an institution. "Encourage promiscuity and easy divorce.
41. "Emphasize the need to raise children away from the negative influence of parents. "Attribute prejudices, mental blocks and retarding of children to suppressive influence of parents.

*

The True Story of How the Communist got Prayer and Bible Reading Removed from our Public Schools.

From William Murray's book Let Us Pray. "William Murray's mother was Madalyn O'Hair who brought the school prayer issue before the U.S. Supreme Court back in 1963. " The following is a first hand eyewitness account how this atheist Marxist got prayer removed from our public schools.......

www.shemitah-blood-moons.net/godless.html

tl;dr

The United states is ~70% Christian so "Hollywood spewing toxins into our homes, the soundtrack of our lives pulsating a mix of sex and violence and filth, the American family in ruins" is completely being embraced and contributed to by Christians.

Why don't you just be honest with yourself and admit that what you see as horrible and wrong is generally not viewed the same by other Christians and the state of America has more to do with the majority (Christians) rather than atheists.

One of the problems with Christianity today is that you generally can't tell the difference between a Christian and a non Christian in many cases. Christians are supposed to stand out as being different, so to say that a certain percentage of a population is Christian is misleading because many talk the talk but don't walk the walk which leads one to question whether or not they truly love the Lord.

Irrelevant to the OP. Bad Christians are not atheists.

I have heard from many bad Christians who talk, and presumably, think like atheists.
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6/29/2016 3:41:45 PM
Posted: 5 months ago
At 6/29/2016 1:24:07 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 6/29/2016 3:38:20 AM, lannan13 wrote:
Atheism has always existed, there's no reason that this has harmed the US in the process.

It's on a steep incline. Christianity was 86% in 1990. Now it's 69%

It existed in the 1700 and 1800's, and nothing happened.
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6/29/2016 3:53:37 PM
Posted: 5 months ago
At 6/29/2016 3:19:07 PM, rnjs wrote:
At 6/29/2016 2:39:13 PM, Skepticalone wrote:
At 6/29/2016 1:42:33 PM, rnjs wrote:
At 6/29/2016 5:11:09 AM, Skepticalone wrote:
At 6/29/2016 3:31:35 AM, brontoraptor wrote:
Can God bless a godless America?

-The White House is waging an all-out assault on religious liberty. Public schools are indoctrinating our children with the gospel of secularism. Hollywood is spewing toxins into our homes. The soundtrack of our lives is a pulsating mix of sex and violence and filth. The American family is in ruins. What was once wrong is now right and what was once right is now wrong.

Our nation stands on a precipice. Freedom hangs in the balance. We live in a postmodern and post-God nation. The perfect storm is brewing. Do not be deceived. There may be a war on religious liberty, but the true target is Christianity.

Tony Perkins, president of the Family Research Council, and Kelly Shackelford, president of Liberty Institute, penned an open letter to the American people last year. Hostility against religious liberty has reached an all-time high, they warned. The freedom of religion is being pushed out of public life, schools and even churches.

http://www.foxnews.com...

-Russian President Vladimir Putin"condemned the West, including the United States, for eschewing Christian values and opting instead for a "path to degradation."

In his State of the Nation speech last month, Putin asserted that, "Many Euro-Atlantic countries have moved away from their roots, including Christian values" Policies are being pursued that place on the same level a multi-child family and a same-sex partnership, a faith in God and a belief in Satan." Russia has adopted new laws that ban homosexual propaganda and criminalizes the insulting of religious sensibilities.

http://www.breitbart.com...

http://www.inquisitr.com...

*

Joseph Stalin outlined how to destroy America-

"If we (the Communist) can destroy America's religion and morality, that is a key to undermining their culture and society. "Then America will crumble from within.""
-Joseph Stalin, ruthless ruler of the Soviet Union

Communist Goals from 1958
A book titled "The Naked Communist" was published in 1958, which"outlined"Communist goals of the"Communist Party to take over America. "Primary goals were to take over key positions in education, the media and government from which they could start to mold public opinion to favor Socialism. "Here are some of the numbered goals"printed on pages 259-262.

28. "Eliminate prayer or any phase of religious expression in the schools on the ground that it violates the principle of "separation of church and state." "

17. "Get control of the schools. "Use them as transmission belts for socialism and current Communist propaganda. "Soften the curriculum. "Get control of teacher's associations. "Put the party line in textbooks.

24. "Eliminate all laws governing obscenity by calling them "censorship" and a violation of free speech and free press.
25. "Break down cultural standards of morality by promoting pornography and obscenity in books, magazines, motion pictures, radio and TV. "
26. "Present homo-sexuality, degeneracy and promiscuity as "normal, natural, healthy."

27. "Infiltrate the churches and replace revealed religion with "social" religion. "Discredit the Bible and emphasize the need for intellectual maturity which does not need a "religious crutch." "

40. "Discredit the family as an institution. "Encourage promiscuity and easy divorce.
41. "Emphasize the need to raise children away from the negative influence of parents. "Attribute prejudices, mental blocks and retarding of children to suppressive influence of parents.

*

The True Story of How the Communist got Prayer and Bible Reading Removed from our Public Schools.

From William Murray's book Let Us Pray. "William Murray's mother was Madalyn O'Hair who brought the school prayer issue before the U.S. Supreme Court back in 1963. " The following is a first hand eyewitness account how this atheist Marxist got prayer removed from our public schools.......

www.shemitah-blood-moons.net/godless.html

tl;dr

The United states is ~70% Christian so "Hollywood spewing toxins into our homes, the soundtrack of our lives pulsating a mix of sex and violence and filth, the American family in ruins" is completely being embraced and contributed to by Christians.

Why don't you just be honest with yourself and admit that what you see as horrible and wrong is generally not viewed the same by other Christians and the state of America has more to do with the majority (Christians) rather than atheists.

One of the problems with Christianity today is that you generally can't tell the difference between a Christian and a non Christian in many cases. Christians are supposed to stand out as being different, so to say that a certain percentage of a population is Christian is misleading because many talk the talk but don't walk the walk which leads one to question whether or not they truly love the Lord.

Irrelevant to the OP. Bad Christians are not atheists.

I have heard from many bad Christians who talk, and presumably, think like atheists.

Again, irrelevant to the OP. The choices that Christians make have nothing to do with atheists.
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6/29/2016 4:08:45 PM
Posted: 5 months ago
At 6/29/2016 1:42:33 PM, rnjs wrote:
At 6/29/2016 5:11:09 AM, Skepticalone wrote:
At 6/29/2016 3:31:35 AM, brontoraptor wrote:
Can God bless a godless America?

-The White House is waging an all-out assault on religious liberty. Public schools are indoctrinating our children with the gospel of secularism. Hollywood is spewing toxins into our homes. The soundtrack of our lives is a pulsating mix of sex and violence and filth. The American family is in ruins. What was once wrong is now right and what was once right is now wrong.

Our nation stands on a precipice. Freedom hangs in the balance. We live in a postmodern and post-God nation. The perfect storm is brewing. Do not be deceived. There may be a war on religious liberty, but the true target is Christianity.

Tony Perkins, president of the Family Research Council, and Kelly Shackelford, president of Liberty Institute, penned an open letter to the American people last year. Hostility against religious liberty has reached an all-time high, they warned. The freedom of religion is being pushed out of public life, schools and even churches.

http://www.foxnews.com...

-Russian President Vladimir Putin"condemned the West, including the United States, for eschewing Christian values and opting instead for a "path to degradation."

In his State of the Nation speech last month, Putin asserted that, "Many Euro-Atlantic countries have moved away from their roots, including Christian values" Policies are being pursued that place on the same level a multi-child family and a same-sex partnership, a faith in God and a belief in Satan." Russia has adopted new laws that ban homosexual propaganda and criminalizes the insulting of religious sensibilities.

http://www.breitbart.com...

http://www.inquisitr.com...

*

Joseph Stalin outlined how to destroy America-

"If we (the Communist) can destroy America's religion and morality, that is a key to undermining their culture and society. "Then America will crumble from within.""
-Joseph Stalin, ruthless ruler of the Soviet Union

Communist Goals from 1958
A book titled "The Naked Communist" was published in 1958, which"outlined"Communist goals of the"Communist Party to take over America. "Primary goals were to take over key positions in education, the media and government from which they could start to mold public opinion to favor Socialism. "Here are some of the numbered goals"printed on pages 259-262.

28. "Eliminate prayer or any phase of religious expression in the schools on the ground that it violates the principle of "separation of church and state." "

17. "Get control of the schools. "Use them as transmission belts for socialism and current Communist propaganda. "Soften the curriculum. "Get control of teacher's associations. "Put the party line in textbooks.

24. "Eliminate all laws governing obscenity by calling them "censorship" and a violation of free speech and free press.
25. "Break down cultural standards of morality by promoting pornography and obscenity in books, magazines, motion pictures, radio and TV. "
26. "Present homo-sexuality, degeneracy and promiscuity as "normal, natural, healthy."

27. "Infiltrate the churches and replace revealed religion with "social" religion. "Discredit the Bible and emphasize the need for intellectual maturity which does not need a "religious crutch." "

40. "Discredit the family as an institution. "Encourage promiscuity and easy divorce.
41. "Emphasize the need to raise children away from the negative influence of parents. "Attribute prejudices, mental blocks and retarding of children to suppressive influence of parents.

*

The True Story of How the Communist got Prayer and Bible Reading Removed from our Public Schools.

From William Murray's book Let Us Pray. "William Murray's mother was Madalyn O'Hair who brought the school prayer issue before the U.S. Supreme Court back in 1963. " The following is a first hand eyewitness account how this atheist Marxist got prayer removed from our public schools.......

www.shemitah-blood-moons.net/godless.html

tl;dr

The United states is ~70% Christian so "Hollywood spewing toxins into our homes, the soundtrack of our lives pulsating a mix of sex and violence and filth, the American family in ruins" is completely being embraced and contributed to by Christians.

Why don't you just be honest with yourself and admit that what you see as horrible and wrong is generally not viewed the same by other Christians and the state of America has more to do with the majority (Christians) rather than atheists.

One of the problems with Christianity today is that you generally can't tell the difference between a Christian and a non Christian in many cases. Christians are supposed to stand out as being different, so to say that a certain percentage of a population is Christian is misleading because many talk the talk but don't walk the walk which leads one to question whether or not they truly love the Lord.
And I guess you've been given authority to determine which is the true Scottish accent?
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7/9/2016 10:03:30 PM
Posted: 5 months ago
At 6/29/2016 3:41:45 PM, lannan13 wrote:
At 6/29/2016 1:24:07 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 6/29/2016 3:38:20 AM, lannan13 wrote:
Atheism has always existed, there's no reason that this has harmed the US in the process.

It's on a steep incline. Christianity was 86% in 1990. Now it's 69%

It existed in the 1700 and 1800's, and nothing happened.

And...not at any serious percentage. Probably less than 1%.
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7/11/2016 12:30:35 AM
Posted: 5 months ago
At 7/9/2016 10:03:30 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 6/29/2016 3:41:45 PM, lannan13 wrote:
At 6/29/2016 1:24:07 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 6/29/2016 3:38:20 AM, lannan13 wrote:
Atheism has always existed, there's no reason that this has harmed the US in the process.

It's on a steep incline. Christianity was 86% in 1990. Now it's 69%

It existed in the 1700 and 1800's, and nothing happened.

And...not at any serious percentage. Probably less than 1%.

America is a Christian country. And as Christians they have invited God's wrath for the sins of the parents are visited upon the children. Your parents must have been horrible, you turned out dispicable and so will the next few generations that follow.

Numbers 14:18
The LORD is slow to anger, abounding in love and forgiving sin and rebellion. Yet he does not leave the guilty unpunished; he punishes the children for the sin of the parents to the third and fourth generation.'
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7/11/2016 1:06:23 AM
Posted: 5 months ago
At 7/11/2016 12:53:21 AM, Casten wrote:
Do you make an effort to sound cray-cray or is it just a happy accident?

You are obviously scripturally illiterate. You must have accidentally strayied into the Religious Forum.
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7/11/2016 1:11:32 AM
Posted: 5 months ago
At 6/29/2016 3:31:35 AM, brontoraptor wrote:
Can God bless a godless America?

Okey a&&hole, tell us exactly what it would take in your view to make america Godly as opposed to Godless ?

Ban same sex marraige ?
Teach children the bible is true in anything and everything ?
Teach children they are born so evil that they deserve to burn in eternal hell fire, and unless they accept Jesus, this is what will happen to them ?
Forced prayer to your God ?
Forced non prayer to other guys God ?
Bibles for everyone, burn everything else that contradicts it ?
Demonize everyone who doesn't believe in christian doctrine as evil ?
Kill the gays ?
Kill the atheists ?
Kill the free thinkers ?
Censor critical thinking being applied to the bible ?

So go on, tell us about how we make america more Godly, cause I am real f*cking tired of people using the whole we got to get back to God as a tool to promote agenda that can't hold up on their own in the light of reason.
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7/11/2016 1:32:09 AM
Posted: 5 months ago
At 7/11/2016 1:06:23 AM, Harikrish wrote:
At 7/11/2016 12:53:21 AM, Casten wrote:
Do you make an effort to sound cray-cray or is it just a happy accident?

You are obviously scripturally illiterate. You must have accidentally strayied into the Religious Forum.

I'm just saying, if it is a conscious effort then there is some serious talent at play here, and I am definitely seeking lessons. When salesmen come to my door, my crazy ravings just aren't convincing enough. It sounds forced. They don't flee in alarm the way I want them to. I could use some pointers.
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7/11/2016 2:24:05 AM
Posted: 5 months ago
At 6/29/2016 3:31:35 AM, brontoraptor wrote:
Can God bless a godless America?

-The White House is waging an all-out assault on religious liberty. Public schools are indoctrinating our children with the gospel of secularism. Hollywood is spewing toxins into our homes. The soundtrack of our lives is a pulsating mix of sex and violence and filth. The American family is in ruins. What was once wrong is now right and what was once right is now wrong.

True

Our nation stands on a precipice. Freedom hangs in the balance. We live in a postmodern and post-God nation. The perfect storm is brewing. Do not be deceived. There may be a war on religious liberty, but the true target is Christianity.

Tony Perkins, president of the Family Research Council, and Kelly Shackelford, president of Liberty Institute, penned an open letter to the American people last year. Hostility against religious liberty has reached an all-time high, they warned. The freedom of religion is being pushed out of public life, schools and even churches.

http://www.foxnews.com...

-Russian President Vladimir Putin"condemned the West, including the United States, for eschewing Christian values and opting instead for a "path to degradation."

In his State of the Nation speech last month, Putin asserted that, "Many Euro-Atlantic countries have moved away from their roots, including Christian values" Policies are being pursued that place on the same level a multi-child family and a same-sex partnership, a faith in God and a belief in Satan." Russia has adopted new laws that ban homosexual propaganda and criminalizes the insulting of religious sensibilities.

http://www.breitbart.com...

http://www.inquisitr.com...

*

Joseph Stalin outlined how to destroy America-

"If we (the Communist) can destroy America's religion and morality, that is a key to undermining their culture and society. "Then America will crumble from within.""
-Joseph Stalin, ruthless ruler of the Soviet Union

Communist Goals from 1958
A book titled "The Naked Communist" was published in 1958, which"outlined"Communist goals of the"Communist Party to take over America. "Primary goals were to take over key positions in education, the media and government from which they could start to mold public opinion to favor Socialism. "Here are some of the numbered goals"printed on pages 259-262.

28. "Eliminate prayer or any phase of religious expression in the schools on the ground that it violates the principle of "separation of church and state." "

17. "Get control of the schools. "Use them as transmission belts for socialism and current Communist propaganda. "Soften the curriculum. "Get control of teacher's associations. "Put the party line in textbooks.

24. "Eliminate all laws governing obscenity by calling them "censorship" and a violation of free speech and free press.
25. "Break down cultural standards of morality by promoting pornography and obscenity in books, magazines, motion pictures, radio and TV. "
26. "Present homo-sexuality, degeneracy and promiscuity as "normal, natural, healthy."

27. "Infiltrate the churches and replace revealed religion with "social" religion. "Discredit the Bible and emphasize the need for intellectual maturity which does not need a "religious crutch." "

40. "Discredit the family as an institution. "Encourage promiscuity and easy divorce.
41. "Emphasize the need to raise children away from the negative influence of parents. "Attribute prejudices, mental blocks and retarding of children to suppressive influence of parents.

*

The True Story of How the Communist got Prayer and Bible Reading Removed from our Public Schools.

From William Murray's book Let Us Pray. "William Murray's mother was Madalyn O'Hair who brought the school prayer issue before the U.S. Supreme Court back in 1963. " The following is a first hand eyewitness account how this atheist Marxist got prayer removed from our public schools.......

www.shemitah-blood-moons.net/godless.html
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7/11/2016 3:12:03 AM
Posted: 5 months ago
At 6/29/2016 3:31:35 AM, brontoraptor wrote:


Joseph Stalin outlined how to destroy America-

"If we (the Communist) can destroy America's religion and morality, that is a key to undermining their culture and society. "Then America will crumble from within.""
-Joseph Stalin, ruthless ruler of the Soviet Union

No he didn't. You found that on a Christian website, which never provided the source. The reason why they didn't provide the source is because its a lie and they know it.

Here is a little more background on that lie - http://www.snopes.com...

I have caught you in other lies and when I showed the sources that you were wrong, you still kept repeating them. You are dishonest and you don't care.
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7/11/2016 11:41:32 AM
Posted: 4 months ago
At 7/11/2016 1:32:09 AM, Casten wrote:
At 7/11/2016 1:06:23 AM, Harikrish wrote:
At 7/11/2016 12:53:21 AM, Casten wrote:
Do you make an effort to sound cray-cray or is it just a happy accident?

You are obviously scripturally illiterate. You must have accidentally strayied into the Religious Forum.

I'm just saying, if it is a conscious effort then there is some serious talent at play here, and I am definitely seeking lessons. When salesmen come to my door, my crazy ravings just aren't convincing enough. It sounds forced. They don't flee in alarm the way I want them to. I could use some pointers.

You are just heavy laden with guilt, your testrosterone level is low. You need some excitement. You have been hanging around lost souls fur too long. Welcome to the joy club!!
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7/11/2016 12:59:57 PM
Posted: 4 months ago
At 6/29/2016 3:31:35 AM, brontoraptor wrote:
Can God bless a godless America?

-The White House is waging an all-out assault on religious liberty. Public schools are indoctrinating our children with the gospel of secularism. Hollywood is spewing toxins into our homes. The soundtrack of our lives is a pulsating mix of sex and violence and filth. The American family is in ruins. What was once wrong is now right and what was once right is now wrong.

Our nation stands on a precipice. Freedom hangs in the balance. We live in a postmodern and post-God nation. The perfect storm is brewing. Do not be deceived. There may be a war on religious liberty, but the true target is Christianity.

Tony Perkins, president of the Family Research Council, and Kelly Shackelford, president of Liberty Institute, penned an open letter to the American people last year. Hostility against religious liberty has reached an all-time high, they warned. The freedom of religion is being pushed out of public life, schools and even churches.

http://www.foxnews.com...

-Russian President Vladimir Putin"condemned the West, including the United States, for eschewing Christian values and opting instead for a "path to degradation."

In his State of the Nation speech last month, Putin asserted that, "Many Euro-Atlantic countries have moved away from their roots, including Christian values" Policies are being pursued that place on the same level a multi-child family and a same-sex partnership, a faith in God and a belief in Satan." Russia has adopted new laws that ban homosexual propaganda and criminalizes the insulting of religious sensibilities.

http://www.breitbart.com...

http://www.inquisitr.com...

*

Joseph Stalin outlined how to destroy America-

"If we (the Communist) can destroy America's religion and morality, that is a key to undermining their culture and society. "Then America will crumble from within.""
-Joseph Stalin, ruthless ruler of the Soviet Union

Communist Goals from 1958
A book titled "The Naked Communist" was published in 1958, which"outlined"Communist goals of the"Communist Party to take over America. "Primary goals were to take over key positions in education, the media and government from which they could start to mold public opinion to favor Socialism. "Here are some of the numbered goals"printed on pages 259-262.

28. "Eliminate prayer or any phase of religious expression in the schools on the ground that it violates the principle of "separation of church and state." "

17. "Get control of the schools. "Use them as transmission belts for socialism and current Communist propaganda. "Soften the curriculum. "Get control of teacher's associations. "Put the party line in textbooks.

24. "Eliminate all laws governing obscenity by calling them "censorship" and a violation of free speech and free press.
25. "Break down cultural standards of morality by promoting pornography and obscenity in books, magazines, motion pictures, radio and TV. "
26. "Present homo-sexuality, degeneracy and promiscuity as "normal, natural, healthy."

27. "Infiltrate the churches and replace revealed religion with "social" religion. "Discredit the Bible and emphasize the need for intellectual maturity which does not need a "religious crutch." "

40. "Discredit the family as an institution. "Encourage promiscuity and easy divorce.
41. "Emphasize the need to raise children away from the negative influence of parents. "Attribute prejudices, mental blocks and retarding of children to suppressive influence of parents.

*

The True Story of How the Communist got Prayer and Bible Reading Removed from our Public Schools.

From William Murray's book Let Us Pray. "William Murray's mother was Madalyn O'Hair who brought the school prayer issue before the U.S. Supreme Court back in 1963. " The following is a first hand eyewitness account how this atheist Marxist got prayer removed from our public schools.......

www.shemitah-blood-moons.net/godless.html

The day comes you write a coherent well-researched thoughtful post my jaw will drop. As of now, the only thing you are sure to induce is a yawn . The utter retardedness in suggesting a Communist conspiracy as the master puppeteer behind the removal of bible reading and prayer of public schools cannot be overstated. It shows you do not know the USA, it shows you do not know the CPUSa, it shows you do not know the Supreme Court, it shows you do not know the Constitution, namely its First Amendment.

Prayer and indoctrination via bible reading should be banned in all public classrooms. Religious practice and endorsement should be banned in all public schools. No hesitation there. You want to read the bible? Go ahead, do it on your own. No one is stopping you. Same with prayer. Pray till you drop dead, if that's what you want. Do not use public facilities as vehicles to spread your personal religious convictions.

The "Naked Communist" does not reflect the goals and methods of the CPUSA. But even if that lunacy were true, the fact remais that only a tiny minority of US citizens were ever members or sympathizers of the Communist Party and I am wiling to bet close to none ever made it to the Supreme Court.

This what the CPUSA has yo say:

( http://www.cpusa.org...)

"
Our vision is one of Bill of Rights Socialism, where people and nature come before profit. Our vision is of a country where all can participate, no matter what their religion, race, or nationality (...)
"
"
Bill of Rights Socialism would maintain and extend democratic rights in the U.S. [T]he rights to free speech, to free assembly, to freedom of religion, (...)
"

"
Bill of Rights Socialism would guarantee freedom of religion and separation of church and state. (...)
"

Bronco, see? You can read can't you?

Because you yourself are so abysmally ignorant and oblivious on a wide variety of topics, you seem to think others are as well and won't bother to check the arsenal of inanity with which you stuff your posts.