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6/30/2016 10:55:39 AM
Posted: 5 months ago
Our own free will is the proof.

You can not make a robot that makes its own decisions.
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6/30/2016 11:40:46 AM
Posted: 5 months ago
At 6/30/2016 10:55:39 AM, Riwaaz_Ras wrote:
Our own free will is the proof.

You can not make a robot that makes its own decisions.

um...okay?
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6/30/2016 11:59:26 AM
Posted: 5 months ago
At 6/30/2016 10:55:39 AM, Riwaaz_Ras wrote:
Our own free will is the proof.

You can not make a robot that makes its own decisions.

I'm with the chimp on this one, what does this mean?

Robots can make decisions on their own, but such works within the confines of their programming. Interestingly enough, humans when set to a task do the same thing robots do.
Here we have an advocate for Islamic arranged marriages demonstrating that children can consent to sex.
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6/30/2016 12:31:12 PM
Posted: 5 months ago
At 6/30/2016 10:55:39 AM, Riwaaz_Ras wrote:
Our own free will is the proof.

You can not make a robot that makes its own decisions.

How do you know?

Be specific. Show us your math.
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6/30/2016 12:31:53 PM
Posted: 5 months ago
At 6/30/2016 10:55:39 AM, Riwaaz_Ras wrote:
Our own free will is the proof.

You can not make a robot that makes its own decisions.
Puddle meet your hole.
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6/30/2016 12:54:01 PM
Posted: 5 months ago
At 6/30/2016 10:55:39 AM, Riwaaz_Ras wrote:
Our own free will is the proof.

You can not make a robot that makes its own decisions.

It's been so long , I see your a little rusty.
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6/30/2016 1:10:37 PM
Posted: 5 months ago
At 6/30/2016 10:55:39 AM, Riwaaz_Ras wrote:
Our own free will is the proof.

You can not make a robot that makes its own decisions.

And what makes you think that there needs to be a God around for us to have a free will?

You need to expand your mind and come up with something considerably better than some half-cocked assumption that God exists.
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6/30/2016 4:46:31 PM
Posted: 5 months ago
At 6/30/2016 10:55:39 AM, Riwaaz_Ras wrote:
Our own free will is the proof.

You can not make a robot that makes its own decisions.

They're working on it and don't seemed deterred by your assertion it can't be done. http://www.gtri.gatech.edu...

Google is also working on AI. Driverless car will have to make many decisions.
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6/30/2016 4:56:01 PM
Posted: 5 months ago
At 6/30/2016 4:46:31 PM, Bennett91 wrote:
At 6/30/2016 10:55:39 AM, Riwaaz_Ras wrote:
Our own free will is the proof.

You can not make a robot that makes its own decisions.

They're working on it and don't seemed deterred by your assertion it can't be done. http://www.gtri.gatech.edu...

Google is also working on AI. Driverless car will have to make many decisions.

Based on visual input.

I'm talking about free will.
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6/30/2016 5:24:19 PM
Posted: 5 months ago
At 6/30/2016 10:55:39 AM, Riwaaz_Ras wrote:
Our own free will is the proof.

You can not make a robot that makes its own decisions.

So when the day comes - and, from past experience, we can safely assume it will indeed come - when Artificial Intelligence reaches a stage in development where it can build a machine capable of making its own decisions, you'll be here retracting, apologizing, and generally regretting the foolish arrogant and non sequitur kind of statement you've just made?
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6/30/2016 5:26:37 PM
Posted: 5 months ago
At 6/30/2016 4:56:01 PM, Riwaaz_Ras wrote:
At 6/30/2016 4:46:31 PM, Bennett91 wrote:
At 6/30/2016 10:55:39 AM, Riwaaz_Ras wrote:
Our own free will is the proof.

You can not make a robot that makes its own decisions.

They're working on it and don't seemed deterred by your assertion it can't be done. http://www.gtri.gatech.edu...

Google is also working on AI. Driverless car will have to make many decisions.

Based on visual input.

Not just visual as in cameras, but the cars will be able to sense each other and where they are in relation to eachother, and they'll coordinate traffic better to save time better than humans could. Also most humans react based on visual input too.

I'm talking about free will.

What is free will?
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6/30/2016 6:05:07 PM
Posted: 5 months ago
At 6/30/2016 5:24:19 PM, Omniverse wrote:
At 6/30/2016 10:55:39 AM, Riwaaz_Ras wrote:
Our own free will is the proof.

You can not make a robot that makes its own decisions.

So when the day comes - and, from past experience, we can safely assume it will indeed come - when Artificial Intelligence reaches a stage in development where it can build a machine capable of making its own decisions

how?

, you'll be here retracting, apologizing, and generally regretting the foolish arrogant and non sequitur kind of statement you've just made?
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6/30/2016 6:12:19 PM
Posted: 5 months ago
At 6/30/2016 10:55:39 AM, Riwaaz_Ras wrote:
Our own free will is the proof.

You can not make a robot that makes its own decisions.

Non-sequitur.
Bennett91
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6/30/2016 6:31:41 PM
Posted: 5 months ago
At 6/30/2016 6:05:07 PM, Riwaaz_Ras wrote:
At 6/30/2016 5:24:19 PM, Omniverse wrote:
At 6/30/2016 10:55:39 AM, Riwaaz_Ras wrote:
Our own free will is the proof.

You can not make a robot that makes its own decisions.

So when the day comes - and, from past experience, we can safely assume it will indeed come - when Artificial Intelligence reaches a stage in development where it can build a machine capable of making its own decisions

how?

You're not very aware of Western technology are you? Even now AI is beating champions the board game go.
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7/1/2016 2:59:29 AM
Posted: 5 months ago
A little more "proof"...

Christ gave us the timeline from himself to the end. He gives some bold claims for a Jewish carpenter 2,000 years ago. Could it be possible? Absolutely...

1)
(Matthew 24:14)
And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in the whole world as a testimony to all nations, and then the end will come.

Per the "Worldwide Web", this is reality.

http://www.jesusiscoming.education...

The full Bible has been translated into 531 languages, and 2,883 languages have at least some portion of the Gospel.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org...

*

1)A great "false" antichrist prophet will arise denouncing Jesus as the Son of God.

Muhammed arrived and denounced Jesus as the Son of God, put the kaaba stone in place to be bowed to in the name of Allah, and directed that no other religion could be allowed on the Arabian Penninsula.

http://carm.org...

http://www.hope-of-israel.org...

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2)This prophet will set up a graven image to be bowed to or the result is death.

In Revelation 13:15 the followers of Antichrist bow to an image set up by the "great prophet" in mass.

Picture bowing to Kaaba

https://edaccessible.com...

(Time lapse video of Muslims bowing to the Kaaba)

http://youtu.be...

*

3)He will empower a false God who will literally be declared to be God in the temple of God and does not accept that Jesus is the Son of God. He is set up at the temple mount.

There is a "god" set up in the temple in the exact location: temple mount. Here is the inscription on that temple.

"Far be it removed from His transcendent majesty that He should have a son."

http://www.islamic-awareness.org...

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4)His followers behead Christians.

Muhammed's followers behead Christians.

http://www.ijreview.com...

(Quran 8:12) says that Allah will "terrorize unbelievers" and Muslims are to behead them.

*

5)His followers will make up 1/4 of the world in the end and will live and spread "by the sword".

Muhammed's followers make up 1/4 of the world, and their symbol is the sword.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org...

http://www.islam101.com...

"And I looked up and saw a horse whose color was pale green like a corpse. And Death was the name of its rider, who was followed around by the grave. They were given authority over one-fourth of the earth, to kill with the sword." (Revelation 6:7-8)

*

(Luke 21:25)
"And upon the earth there will be a distress of nations, with perplexity."

That would be an understatement...

www.cfr.org/global/global-conflict-tracker/p32137#!

http://www.theatlantic.com...

*

(Luke 17:26)
"Just as it was in the days of Noah, so also will it be in the end."

What was it like in the ancient story of Noah? The world was filled with unimaginable violence.

http://www.gotquestions.org...

(Luke 17:28)
"And the world will be as it was in the days of Lot."

Since 2001, 14 countries have fully legalized homosexual marriage, Argentina, Belgium, Canada, Denmark, Iceland, Netherlands, Norway, Portugal, Spain, South Africa, Sweden, New Zealand, Uraguay, France, with parts of North and South America doing the same. And the list is growing all the time. And yet what did God's Word say in Jude 1:7? That Sodom was set as an example to the world.

http://www.endtimes-bibleprophecy.com...

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End times prophecy-

(Isaiah 17:1)
A prophecy against Damascus: "See, Damascus will no longer be as it was, but will become a heap of ruins."

Damascus has been destroyed by the Syrian war.

http://americanvision.org...

http://www.raptureforums.com...

(Video Drone footage of Damascus)

http://youtu.be...

Here is a Biblical scholar pointing out this point before Damascus was ever hit.

http://www.alamongordo.com...

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(Daniel 11:42-43)
"It shall stretch forth his hand also upon the countries: and the land of Egypt shall not escape." But it shall have power over them, and over all the precious things of Egypt: and the Libyans and the Ethiopians shall be at its mercy."

Egypt did not escape. Libya and Ethiopia are in submission.

http://mobile.nytimes.com...

http://www.colinagyles.com...

*

(Revelation 17:5)
"The name written on her forehead was a mystery: babylon the great the mother of prostitutes and of the abominations of the earth."

It told us exactly what and where it is. A city. By the Red Sea. Hated by Iran. Against Christ. The place where they bow to its image....

http://youtu.be...
"What Donald Trump is doing is representing the absolute heartbreak, and anger, and frustration at a government gone mad."

http://youtu.be...
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7/1/2016 3:11:35 AM
Posted: 5 months ago
At 6/30/2016 11:59:26 AM, FaustianJustice wrote:
At 6/30/2016 10:55:39 AM, Riwaaz_Ras wrote:
Our own free will is the proof.

You can not make a robot that makes its own decisions.

I'm with the chimp on this one, what does this mean?

Robots can make decisions on their own, but such works within the confines of their programming. Interestingly enough, humans when set to a task do the same thing robots do.

You're just a robot! I'm more than a robot. You're less than bronto according to yourself.
"What Donald Trump is doing is representing the absolute heartbreak, and anger, and frustration at a government gone mad."

http://youtu.be...
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7/1/2016 5:15:58 AM
Posted: 5 months ago
At 6/30/2016 6:31:41 PM, Bennett91 wrote:
At 6/30/2016 6:05:07 PM, Riwaaz_Ras wrote:
At 6/30/2016 5:24:19 PM, Omniverse wrote:
At 6/30/2016 10:55:39 AM, Riwaaz_Ras wrote:
Our own free will is the proof.

You can not make a robot that makes its own decisions.

So when the day comes - and, from past experience, we can safely assume it will indeed come - when Artificial Intelligence reaches a stage in development where it can build a machine capable of making its own decisions

how?

You're not very aware of Western technology are you? Even now AI is beating champions the board game go.

The Alpha Go programme does not have free will.

It will work as it's told to.
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7/1/2016 5:17:37 AM
Posted: 5 months ago
At 6/30/2016 6:12:19 PM, KthulhuHimself wrote:
At 6/30/2016 10:55:39 AM, Riwaaz_Ras wrote:
Our own free will is the proof.

You can not make a robot that makes its own decisions.

Non-sequitur.

Miracle accepted, god denied.
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7/1/2016 5:22:57 AM
Posted: 5 months ago
A computer program works as it has been told to. We can make free choice. There are many miracles we don't even notice.

A computer program can never imagine something.

A computer program can never ever feel itself.
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7/1/2016 5:32:25 AM
Posted: 5 months ago
At 7/1/2016 5:15:58 AM, Riwaaz_Ras wrote:
At 6/30/2016 6:31:41 PM, Bennett91 wrote:
At 6/30/2016 6:05:07 PM, Riwaaz_Ras wrote:
At 6/30/2016 5:24:19 PM, Omniverse wrote:
At 6/30/2016 10:55:39 AM, Riwaaz_Ras wrote:
Our own free will is the proof.

You can not make a robot that makes its own decisions.

So when the day comes - and, from past experience, we can safely assume it will indeed come - when Artificial Intelligence reaches a stage in development where it can build a machine capable of making its own decisions

how?

You're not very aware of Western technology are you? Even now AI is beating champions the board game go.

The Alpha Go programme does not have free will.

It will work as it's told to.

Within the confines of the rules the game sure. But no one is telling alphago what moves to make in reaction to its opponent.
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7/1/2016 5:36:34 AM
Posted: 5 months ago
At 7/1/2016 5:32:25 AM, Bennett91 wrote:
At 7/1/2016 5:15:58 AM, Riwaaz_Ras wrote:
At 6/30/2016 6:31:41 PM, Bennett91 wrote:
At 6/30/2016 6:05:07 PM, Riwaaz_Ras wrote:
At 6/30/2016 5:24:19 PM, Omniverse wrote:
At 6/30/2016 10:55:39 AM, Riwaaz_Ras wrote:
Our own free will is the proof.

You can not make a robot that makes its own decisions.

So when the day comes - and, from past experience, we can safely assume it will indeed come - when Artificial Intelligence reaches a stage in development where it can build a machine capable of making its own decisions

how?

You're not very aware of Western technology are you? Even now AI is beating champions the board game go.

The Alpha Go programme does not have free will.

It will work as it's told to.

Within the confines of the rules the game sure. But no one is telling alphago what moves to make in reaction to its opponent.

Because it has already been told in advance what to do.
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Bennett91
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7/1/2016 5:37:37 AM
Posted: 5 months ago
At 7/1/2016 5:36:34 AM, Riwaaz_Ras wrote:
At 7/1/2016 5:32:25 AM, Bennett91 wrote:
At 7/1/2016 5:15:58 AM, Riwaaz_Ras wrote:
At 6/30/2016 6:31:41 PM, Bennett91 wrote:
At 6/30/2016 6:05:07 PM, Riwaaz_Ras wrote:
At 6/30/2016 5:24:19 PM, Omniverse wrote:
At 6/30/2016 10:55:39 AM, Riwaaz_Ras wrote:
Our own free will is the proof.

You can not make a robot that makes its own decisions.

So when the day comes - and, from past experience, we can safely assume it will indeed come - when Artificial Intelligence reaches a stage in development where it can build a machine capable of making its own decisions

how?

You're not very aware of Western technology are you? Even now AI is beating champions the board game go.

The Alpha Go programme does not have free will.

It will work as it's told to.

Within the confines of the rules the game sure. But no one is telling alphago what moves to make in reaction to its opponent.

Because it has already been told in advance what to do.

You seem to not understand what alpha go is.. By your logic the human player has no free will and has been told in advance what to do.
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7/1/2016 5:41:48 AM
Posted: 5 months ago
At 7/1/2016 5:37:37 AM, Bennett91 wrote:
At 7/1/2016 5:36:34 AM, Riwaaz_Ras wrote:
At 7/1/2016 5:32:25 AM, Bennett91 wrote:
At 7/1/2016 5:15:58 AM, Riwaaz_Ras wrote:
At 6/30/2016 6:31:41 PM, Bennett91 wrote:
At 6/30/2016 6:05:07 PM, Riwaaz_Ras wrote:
At 6/30/2016 5:24:19 PM, Omniverse wrote:
At 6/30/2016 10:55:39 AM, Riwaaz_Ras wrote:
Our own free will is the proof.

You can not make a robot that makes its own decisions.

So when the day comes - and, from past experience, we can safely assume it will indeed come - when Artificial Intelligence reaches a stage in development where it can build a machine capable of making its own decisions

how?

You're not very aware of Western technology are you? Even now AI is beating champions the board game go.

The Alpha Go programme does not have free will.

It will work as it's told to.

Within the confines of the rules the game sure. But no one is telling alphago what moves to make in reaction to its opponent.

Because it has already been told in advance what to do.

You seem to not understand what alpha go is.. By your logic the human player has no free will and has been told in advance what to do.

No, a human can deliberately loose the game, alpha go won't.

It has been told - when this will be done, you will do this.

And indeed, it always follows its master's command.

No free will at all.
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7/1/2016 5:44:26 AM
Posted: 5 months ago
At 7/1/2016 5:41:48 AM, Riwaaz_Ras wrote:
At 7/1/2016 5:37:37 AM, Bennett91 wrote:
At 7/1/2016 5:36:34 AM, Riwaaz_Ras wrote:
At 7/1/2016 5:32:25 AM, Bennett91 wrote:
At 7/1/2016 5:15:58 AM, Riwaaz_Ras wrote:
At 6/30/2016 6:31:41 PM, Bennett91 wrote:
At 6/30/2016 6:05:07 PM, Riwaaz_Ras wrote:
At 6/30/2016 5:24:19 PM, Omniverse wrote:
At 6/30/2016 10:55:39 AM, Riwaaz_Ras wrote:
Our own free will is the proof.

You can not make a robot that makes its own decisions.

So when the day comes - and, from past experience, we can safely assume it will indeed come - when Artificial Intelligence reaches a stage in development where it can build a machine capable of making its own decisions

how?

You're not very aware of Western technology are you? Even now AI is beating champions the board game go.

The Alpha Go programme does not have free will.

It will work as it's told to.

Within the confines of the rules the game sure. But no one is telling alphago what moves to make in reaction to its opponent.

Because it has already been told in advance what to do.

You seem to not understand what alpha go is.. By your logic the human player has no free will and has been told in advance what to do.

No, a human can deliberately loose the game, alpha go won't.

Lee Sedol wasn't trying to lose, the point of the game is to win.

It has been told - when this will be done, you will do this.

Go is far too complex for that simple kind of strategy.

And indeed, it always follows its master's command.

It's on auto pilot, it has no master. But again by your logic the human must obey his previous training thus has no free will.

No free will at all.

You've yet to tell me what free will is.
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7/1/2016 5:57:08 AM
Posted: 5 months ago
At 7/1/2016 5:44:26 AM, Bennett91 wrote:
At 7/1/2016 5:41:48 AM, Riwaaz_Ras wrote:
At 7/1/2016 5:37:37 AM, Bennett91 wrote:
At 7/1/2016 5:36:34 AM, Riwaaz_Ras wrote:
At 7/1/2016 5:32:25 AM, Bennett91 wrote:
At 7/1/2016 5:15:58 AM, Riwaaz_Ras wrote:
At 6/30/2016 6:31:41 PM, Bennett91 wrote:
At 6/30/2016 6:05:07 PM, Riwaaz_Ras wrote:
At 6/30/2016 5:24:19 PM, Omniverse wrote:
At 6/30/2016 10:55:39 AM, Riwaaz_Ras wrote:
Our own free will is the proof.

You can not make a robot that makes its own decisions.

So when the day comes - and, from past experience, we can safely assume it will indeed come - when Artificial Intelligence reaches a stage in development where it can build a machine capable of making its own decisions

how?

You're not very aware of Western technology are you? Even now AI is beating champions the board game go.

The Alpha Go programme does not have free will.

It will work as it's told to.

Within the confines of the rules the game sure. But no one is telling alphago what moves to make in reaction to its opponent.

Because it has already been told in advance what to do.

You seem to not understand what alpha go is.. By your logic the human player has no free will and has been told in advance what to do.

No, a human can deliberately loose the game, alpha go won't.

Lee Sedol wasn't trying to lose, the point of the game is to win.

can

It has been told - when this will be done, you will do this.

Go is far too complex for that simple kind of strategy.

basically, it has been told everything. It did not realize the value of a move. It has been programmed.

It evaluated nothing, it just processed the codes.

It is not to complex for a human brain.

And indeed, it always follows its master's command.

It's on auto pilot, it has no master. But again by your logic the human must obey his previous training thus has no free will.

Auto piolet is SET.

Humans do feel themselves.

No free will at all.

You've yet to tell me what free will is.

No one told me to start this very line with a 'No'.
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7/1/2016 6:05:27 AM
Posted: 5 months ago
At 7/1/2016 5:57:08 AM, Riwaaz_Ras wrote:
At 7/1/2016 5:44:26 AM, Bennett91 wrote:
At 7/1/2016 5:41:48 AM, Riwaaz_Ras wrote:
At 7/1/2016 5:37:37 AM, Bennett91 wrote:
At 7/1/2016 5:36:34 AM, Riwaaz_Ras wrote:
At 7/1/2016 5:32:25 AM, Bennett91 wrote:
At 7/1/2016 5:15:58 AM, Riwaaz_Ras wrote:
At 6/30/2016 6:31:41 PM, Bennett91 wrote:
At 6/30/2016 6:05:07 PM, Riwaaz_Ras wrote:
At 6/30/2016 5:24:19 PM, Omniverse wrote:
At 6/30/2016 10:55:39 AM, Riwaaz_Ras wrote:
Our own free will is the proof.

You can not make a robot that makes its own decisions.

So when the day comes - and, from past experience, we can safely assume it will indeed come - when Artificial Intelligence reaches a stage in development where it can build a machine capable of making its own decisions

how?

You're not very aware of Western technology are you? Even now AI is beating champions the board game go.

The Alpha Go programme does not have free will.

It will work as it's told to.

Within the confines of the rules the game sure. But no one is telling alphago what moves to make in reaction to its opponent.

Because it has already been told in advance what to do.

You seem to not understand what alpha go is.. By your logic the human player has no free will and has been told in advance what to do.

No, a human can deliberately loose the game, alpha go won't.

Lee Sedol wasn't trying to lose, the point of the game is to win.

can

In the game of life, deliberately losing makes no sense. How does suicide prove God?

It has been told - when this will be done, you will do this.

Go is far too complex for that simple kind of strategy.

basically, it has been told everything. It did not realize the value of a move. It has been programmed.

To say Alpha Go doesn't see the value in a move implies Alpha Go wasn't trying to win, but you just said it can't choose either way. Alpha Go wasn't acting randomly and wasn't programed to directly counter Sedol. It had to calculate and make choices in real time. The programmers had to teach Alpha Go how to play, just as Lee Sedol had to be taught how to play.

It evaluated nothing, it just processed the codes.

Do you understand the concept of bio electricity and DNA as a code?

It is not to complex for a human brain.

Complex enough to beat a human brain though.

And indeed, it always follows its master's command.

It's on auto pilot, it has no master. But again by your logic the human must obey his previous training thus has no free will.

Auto piolet is SET.

Just as Lee Sedol was set. He couldn't break the rules, and he wasn't going to lose on purpose.

Humans do feel themselves.

And? Self driving cars can sense each other too.

No free will at all.

You've yet to tell me what free will is.

No one told me to start this very line with a 'No'.

So then by your own cowardice you refuse to answer my question. Did you choose to be a coward?
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7/1/2016 6:57:55 AM
Posted: 5 months ago
At 7/1/2016 6:05:27 AM, Bennett91 wrote:
At 7/1/2016 5:57:08 AM, Riwaaz_Ras wrote:
At 7/1/2016 5:44:26 AM, Bennett91 wrote:
At 7/1/2016 5:41:48 AM, Riwaaz_Ras wrote:
At 7/1/2016 5:37:37 AM, Bennett91 wrote:
At 7/1/2016 5:36:34 AM, Riwaaz_Ras wrote:
At 7/1/2016 5:32:25 AM, Bennett91 wrote:
At 7/1/2016 5:15:58 AM, Riwaaz_Ras wrote:
At 6/30/2016 6:31:41 PM, Bennett91 wrote:
At 6/30/2016 6:05:07 PM, Riwaaz_Ras wrote:
At 6/30/2016 5:24:19 PM, Omniverse wrote:
At 6/30/2016 10:55:39 AM, Riwaaz_Ras wrote:
Our own free will is the proof.

You can not make a robot that makes its own decisions.

So when the day comes - and, from past experience, we can safely assume it will indeed come - when Artificial Intelligence reaches a stage in development where it can build a machine capable of making its own decisions

how?

You're not very aware of Western technology are you? Even now AI is beating champions the board game go.

The Alpha Go programme does not have free will.

It will work as it's told to.

Within the confines of the rules the game sure. But no one is telling alphago what moves to make in reaction to its opponent.

Because it has already been told in advance what to do.

You seem to not understand what alpha go is.. By your logic the human player has no free will and has been told in advance what to do.

No, a human can deliberately loose the game, alpha go won't.

Lee Sedol wasn't trying to lose, the point of the game is to win.

can

In the game of life, deliberately losing makes no sense. How does suicide prove God?

A choice of life and death.

It has been told - when this will be done, you will do this.

Go is far too complex for that simple kind of strategy.

basically, it has been told everything. It did not realize the value of a move. It has been programmed.

To say Alpha Go doesn't see the value in a move implies Alpha Go wasn't trying to win, but you just said it can't choose either way. Alpha Go wasn't acting randomly and wasn't programed to directly counter Sedol. It had to calculate and make choices in real time. The programmers had to teach Alpha Go how to play, just as Lee Sedol had to be taught how to play.

It evaluated nothing, it just processed the codes.

Do you understand the concept of bio electricity and DNA as a code?

Wrong.

It is not to complex for a human brain.

Complex enough to beat a human brain though.

And indeed, it always follows its master's command.

It's on auto pilot, it has no master. But again by your logic the human must obey his previous training thus has no free will.

Auto piolet is SET.

Just as Lee Sedol was set. He couldn't break the rules, and he wasn't going to lose on purpose.

Humans do feel themselves.

And? Self driving cars can sense each other too.

themselves.

No free will at all.

You've yet to tell me what free will is.

No one told me to start this very line with a 'No'.

So then by your own cowardice you refuse to answer my question. Did you choose to be a coward?

Loaded question.

I' ve already answered your question.

your faith in western technology (sic) is hilarious.
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7/1/2016 7:00:27 AM
Posted: 5 months ago
At 7/1/2016 6:57:55 AM, Riwaaz_Ras wrote:


Your inability to answer my questions while pretending Hinduism is the best is what is actually hilarious.

My point about western tech was to contradict your baseless claims on free will. Can you tell me what free will is? Or are you going to continue to dodge my question?