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bulproof
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7/1/2016 4:08:01 PM
Posted: 5 months ago
If I knew anything about the ToE then I would tell you why it's wrong, but since I have absolutely no knowledge concerning the ToE I'm going to tell why the ToE is wrong.
Listen up now.
Religion is just mind control. George Carlin
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7/1/2016 4:24:59 PM
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Anyone who thinks that evolution disproves God is an idiot.
And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up: That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life. As many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name: which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of the will of God. The hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth,
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7/1/2016 4:38:26 PM
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At 7/1/2016 4:24:59 PM, SpiritandTruth wrote:
Anyone who thinks that evolution disproves God is an idiot.

The only thing that disproves gods is reason...............
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7/1/2016 4:40:17 PM
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Anyone who thinks that reason disproves God is an idiot.
And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up: That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life. As many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name: which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of the will of God. The hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth,
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7/1/2016 4:41:46 PM
Posted: 5 months ago
At 7/1/2016 4:24:59 PM, SpiritandTruth wrote:
Anyone who thinks that evolution disproves God is an idiot.
The thread concerns the ToE.
Religion is just mind control. George Carlin
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7/1/2016 4:48:32 PM
Posted: 5 months ago
Why couldn't God create an evolving universe?

Doesn't intelligent design occur all the time in these genetically modified organisms that people eat? Before then, have we not selectively breed the livestock and crops that we use?

It's a dumb argument for ignorant people.
And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up: That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life. As many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name: which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of the will of God. The hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth,
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7/1/2016 4:57:18 PM
Posted: 5 months ago
At 7/1/2016 4:48:32 PM, SpiritandTruth wrote:
Why couldn't God create an evolving universe?

Doesn't intelligent design occur all the time in these genetically modified organisms that people eat? Before then, have we not selectively breed the livestock and crops that we use?


It's a dumb argument for ignorant people.
Well that is obvious, so why did you propose it?
Religion is just mind control. George Carlin
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7/1/2016 5:06:32 PM
Posted: 5 months ago
At 7/1/2016 4:57:18 PM, bulproof wrote:
At 7/1/2016 4:48:32 PM, SpiritandTruth wrote:
Why couldn't God create an evolving universe?

Doesn't intelligent design occur all the time in these genetically modified organisms that people eat? Before then, have we not selectively breed the livestock and crops that we use?


It's a dumb argument for ignorant people.
Well that is obvious, so why did you propose it?

The idea that evolution, God, intelligent design, natural selection, and creation contradict comes from a fundamental misunderstanding of language and the concepts involved, not anything truly meaningful.

But when is the last time you said anything truly meaningful? I thank you for being around. You do a fine job making atheists look stupid. For your sake, I hope that has been your intention from the get go. Maybe you're a Christian in disguise?
And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up: That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life. As many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name: which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of the will of God. The hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth,
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7/1/2016 5:12:27 PM
Posted: 5 months ago
At 7/1/2016 5:06:32 PM, SpiritandTruth wrote:
At 7/1/2016 4:57:18 PM, bulproof wrote:
At 7/1/2016 4:48:32 PM, SpiritandTruth wrote:
Why couldn't God create an evolving universe?

Doesn't intelligent design occur all the time in these genetically modified organisms that people eat? Before then, have we not selectively breed the livestock and crops that we use?


It's a dumb argument for ignorant people.
Well that is obvious, so why did you propose it?

The idea that evolution, God, intelligent design, natural selection, and creation contradict comes from a fundamental misunderstanding of language and the concepts involved, not anything truly meaningful.

But when is the last time you said anything truly meaningful? I thank you for being around. You do a fine job making atheists look stupid. For your sake, I hope that has been your intention from the get go. Maybe you're a Christian in disguise?

I love it when they have no response. Poor little things.
Religion is just mind control. George Carlin
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7/1/2016 9:13:27 PM
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At 7/1/2016 4:08:01 PM, bulproof wrote:
If I knew anything about the ToE then I would tell you why it's wrong, but since I have absolutely no knowledge concerning the ToE I'm going to tell why the ToE is wrong.
Listen up now.

Show us a change in kind.

Even better, show us why Atheist biologist David Berlinski is wrong when he says ToE is a fairytale latched onto by Militant Atheists.

You'll also need to explain how we got an explosion of creatures at the Cambrian and how we got 5 billion transitions in 500 million years when according to you man is 100,000 years old. If we haven't changed in 100,000 years, where do you find the time to get 5 billion transitions from simple life to Christy Brinkley.
"What Donald Trump is doing is representing the absolute heartbreak, and anger, and frustration at a government gone mad."

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7/1/2016 9:17:38 PM
Posted: 5 months ago
At 7/1/2016 4:48:32 PM, SpiritandTruth wrote:
Why couldn't God create an evolving universe?

Doesn't intelligent design occur all the time in these genetically modified organisms that people eat? Before then, have we not selectively breed the livestock and crops that we use?


It's a dumb argument for ignorant people.

He could have, but instead we have the Cambrian explosion and the "appearance of design" in the fossil record. Richard Dawkins, atheist, was quick to point out,"Just because it looks designed, that doesn't mean it is..."

(Bronto scampers off into the weeds)
"What Donald Trump is doing is representing the absolute heartbreak, and anger, and frustration at a government gone mad."

http://youtu.be...
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7/1/2016 9:23:15 PM
Posted: 5 months ago
At 7/1/2016 5:06:32 PM, SpiritandTruth wrote:
At 7/1/2016 4:57:18 PM, bulproof wrote:
At 7/1/2016 4:48:32 PM, SpiritandTruth wrote:
Why couldn't God create an evolving universe?

Doesn't intelligent design occur all the time in these genetically modified organisms that people eat? Before then, have we not selectively breed the livestock and crops that we use?


It's a dumb argument for ignorant people.
Well that is obvious, so why did you propose it?

The idea that evolution, God, intelligent design, natural selection, and creation contradict comes from a fundamental misunderstanding of language and the concepts involved, not anything truly meaningful.

But when is the last time you said anything truly meaningful? I thank you for being around. You do a fine job making atheists look stupid. For your sake, I hope that has been your intention from the get go. Maybe you're a Christian in disguise?

This:
"What Donald Trump is doing is representing the absolute heartbreak, and anger, and frustration at a government gone mad."

http://youtu.be...
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7/1/2016 9:23:39 PM
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http://www.conservapedia.com...

Richard Dawkins, atheist biologist-

"And I suppose it's possible that you might find evidence for that if you look at the details of biochemistry, molecular biology, you might find a signature of some sort of designer."
"What Donald Trump is doing is representing the absolute heartbreak, and anger, and frustration at a government gone mad."

http://youtu.be...
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7/1/2016 9:25:52 PM
Posted: 5 months ago
At 7/1/2016 4:38:26 PM, missmedic wrote:
At 7/1/2016 4:24:59 PM, SpiritandTruth wrote:
Anyone who thinks that evolution disproves God is an idiot.

The only thing that disproves gods is reason...............

So...explain to us what created the universe.
"What Donald Trump is doing is representing the absolute heartbreak, and anger, and frustration at a government gone mad."

http://youtu.be...
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7/2/2016 3:35:36 AM
Posted: 5 months ago
At 7/1/2016 9:25:52 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 7/1/2016 4:38:26 PM, missmedic wrote:
At 7/1/2016 4:24:59 PM, SpiritandTruth wrote:
Anyone who thinks that evolution disproves God is an idiot.

The only thing that disproves gods is reason...............

So...explain to us what created the universe.

I must admit my ignorance on the subject, I do not know. But all knowledge available to me, tells me there is no model of the universe in which some god is "either required, productive, or useful."
Knowledge is knowledge about reality. To speak of knowledge that we don't understand is a contradiction in terms.
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7/2/2016 4:22:52 AM
Posted: 5 months ago
At 7/1/2016 9:23:15 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 7/1/2016 5:06:32 PM, SpiritandTruth wrote:
At 7/1/2016 4:57:18 PM, bulproof wrote:
At 7/1/2016 4:48:32 PM, SpiritandTruth wrote:
Why couldn't God create an evolving universe?

Doesn't intelligent design occur all the time in these genetically modified organisms that people eat? Before then, have we not selectively breed the livestock and crops that we use?


It's a dumb argument for ignorant people.
Well that is obvious, so why did you propose it?

The idea that evolution, God, intelligent design, natural selection, and creation contradict comes from a fundamental misunderstanding of language and the concepts involved, not anything truly meaningful.

But when is the last time you said anything truly meaningful? I thank you for being around. You do a fine job making atheists look stupid. For your sake, I hope that has been your intention from the get go. Maybe you're a Christian in disguise?

This:
I sure manage to get you godbotherers all bitter and twisted.
Religion is just mind control. George Carlin
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7/2/2016 5:08:05 AM
Posted: 5 months ago
At 7/1/2016 4:40:17 PM, SpiritandTruth wrote:
Anyone who thinks that reason disproves God is an idiot.

How do you function in the real world?
Meh!
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7/2/2016 6:15:18 AM
Posted: 5 months ago
At 7/1/2016 4:08:01 PM, bulproof wrote:
If I knew anything about the ToE then I would tell you why it's wrong, but since I have absolutely no knowledge concerning the ToE I'm going to tell why the ToE is wrong.
Listen up now.

PM me immediately. Breaking news.
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7/2/2016 6:15:51 AM
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We're calling it "the toe" now, are we. I mean, that's how it sounds. Phonetically. In my head. All scientists support the toe. The toe has unanimous consensus. The toe is sound. Why do you deny the toe? Embrace the toe.

I just don't know how I feel about this.
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7/2/2016 2:35:36 PM
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At 7/2/2016 5:08:05 AM, Axonly wrote:
At 7/1/2016 4:40:17 PM, SpiritandTruth wrote:
Anyone who thinks that reason disproves God is an idiot.

How do you function in the real world?

The grace of God, like anyone else.
And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up: That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life. As many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name: which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of the will of God. The hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth,
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7/2/2016 8:32:56 PM
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At 7/1/2016 4:24:59 PM, SpiritandTruth wrote:
Anyone who thinks that evolution disproves God is an idiot.

Says the uber idiot.

ToE is fatal to Christianity, that's for sure. But given you possess a special dictionary, tailored to your needs, a dictionary of which there is but one copy on the entire planet, and you happen to have it, and you happen to have authored it, and you happen to use it at your leisure and to your convenience, I'm sure your reply will involve said dictionary, as anything more substantial and honest would give you the pox.
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7/2/2016 9:02:39 PM
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At 7/2/2016 8:32:56 PM, Omniverse wrote:
At 7/1/2016 4:24:59 PM, SpiritandTruth wrote:
Anyone who thinks that evolution disproves God is an idiot.

Says the uber idiot.

ToE is fatal to Christianity, that's for sure. But given you possess a special dictionary, tailored to your needs, a dictionary of which there is but one copy on the entire planet, and you happen to have it, and you happen to have authored it, and you happen to use it at your leisure and to your convenience, I'm sure your reply will involve said dictionary, as anything more substantial and honest would give you the pox.

Here, now you can have a copy too.

http://www.merriam-webster.com...

dipshit
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7/2/2016 9:12:02 PM
Posted: 5 months ago
At 7/1/2016 4:08:01 PM, bulproof wrote:
If I knew anything about the ToE then I would tell you why it's wrong, but since I have absolutely no knowledge concerning the ToE I'm going to tell why the ToE is wrong.
Listen up now.

Would you like to tell us something about the "ToE" that we don't know or understand? we are all ears....
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7/2/2016 9:55:26 PM
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At 7/2/2016 9:12:02 PM, EtrnlVw wrote:
At 7/1/2016 4:08:01 PM, bulproof wrote:
If I knew anything about the ToE then I would tell you why it's wrong, but since I have absolutely no knowledge concerning the ToE I'm going to tell why the ToE is wrong.
Listen up now.

Would you like to tell us something about the "ToE" that we don't know or understand? we are all ears....

That would be everything because you understand nothing. And, since that is the case, it is your responsibility to educate yourself, not ours, we have already pursued our responsibility in that regard.
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7/2/2016 9:59:05 PM
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At 7/2/2016 9:55:26 PM, DanneJeRusse wrote:
At 7/2/2016 9:12:02 PM, EtrnlVw wrote:
At 7/1/2016 4:08:01 PM, bulproof wrote:
If I knew anything about the ToE then I would tell you why it's wrong, but since I have absolutely no knowledge concerning the ToE I'm going to tell why the ToE is wrong.
Listen up now.

Would you like to tell us something about the "ToE" that we don't know or understand? we are all ears....

That would be everything because you understand nothing. And, since that is the case, it is your responsibility to educate yourself, not ours, we have already pursued our responsibility in that regard.

That didn't answer the question.
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7/3/2016 12:35:41 AM
Posted: 5 months ago
At 7/2/2016 9:59:05 PM, EtrnlVw wrote:
At 7/2/2016 9:55:26 PM, DanneJeRusse wrote:
At 7/2/2016 9:12:02 PM, EtrnlVw wrote:
At 7/1/2016 4:08:01 PM, bulproof wrote:
If I knew anything about the ToE then I would tell you why it's wrong, but since I have absolutely no knowledge concerning the ToE I'm going to tell why the ToE is wrong.
Listen up now.

Would you like to tell us something about the "ToE" that we don't know or understand? we are all ears....

That would be everything because you understand nothing. And, since that is the case, it is your responsibility to educate yourself, not ours, we have already pursued our responsibility in that regard.

That didn't answer the question.

Yes, it did, go educate yourself, that is the answer.
Marrying a 6 year old and waiting until she reaches puberty and maturity before having consensual sex is better than walking up to
a stranger in a bar and proceeding to have relations with no valid proof of the intent of the person. Muhammad wins. ~ Fatihah
If they don't want to be killed then they have to subdue to the Islamic laws. - Uncung
Without God, you are lower than sh!t. ~ SpiritandTruth
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7/3/2016 12:38:01 AM
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At 7/3/2016 12:35:41 AM, DanneJeRusse wrote:
At 7/2/2016 9:59:05 PM, EtrnlVw wrote:
At 7/2/2016 9:55:26 PM, DanneJeRusse wrote:
At 7/2/2016 9:12:02 PM, EtrnlVw wrote:
At 7/1/2016 4:08:01 PM, bulproof wrote:
If I knew anything about the ToE then I would tell you why it's wrong, but since I have absolutely no knowledge concerning the ToE I'm going to tell why the ToE is wrong.
Listen up now.

Would you like to tell us something about the "ToE" that we don't know or understand? we are all ears....

That would be everything because you understand nothing. And, since that is the case, it is your responsibility to educate yourself, not ours, we have already pursued our responsibility in that regard.

That didn't answer the question.

Yes, it did, go educate yourself, that is the answer.

Sorry, but you and the other troll made the claim, now answer that question...it should be easy for ya, since we know nothing.
Tell us all what we need to know about "ToE"....bigmouth...
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7/3/2016 12:41:03 AM
Posted: 5 months ago
At 7/3/2016 12:38:01 AM, EtrnlVw wrote:
At 7/3/2016 12:35:41 AM, DanneJeRusse wrote:
At 7/2/2016 9:59:05 PM, EtrnlVw wrote:
At 7/2/2016 9:55:26 PM, DanneJeRusse wrote:
At 7/2/2016 9:12:02 PM, EtrnlVw wrote:
At 7/1/2016 4:08:01 PM, bulproof wrote:
If I knew anything about the ToE then I would tell you why it's wrong, but since I have absolutely no knowledge concerning the ToE I'm going to tell why the ToE is wrong.
Listen up now.

Would you like to tell us something about the "ToE" that we don't know or understand? we are all ears....

That would be everything because you understand nothing. And, since that is the case, it is your responsibility to educate yourself, not ours, we have already pursued our responsibility in that regard.

That didn't answer the question.

Yes, it did, go educate yourself, that is the answer.

Sorry, but you and the other troll made the claim, now answer that question...it should be easy for ya, since we know nothing.
Tell us all what we need to know about "ToE"....bigmouth...

It is your responsibility to educate yourself. If you refuse to do that, then you'll always remain ignorant.
Marrying a 6 year old and waiting until she reaches puberty and maturity before having consensual sex is better than walking up to
a stranger in a bar and proceeding to have relations with no valid proof of the intent of the person. Muhammad wins. ~ Fatihah
If they don't want to be killed then they have to subdue to the Islamic laws. - Uncung
Without God, you are lower than sh!t. ~ SpiritandTruth
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7/3/2016 12:46:18 AM
Posted: 5 months ago
At 7/3/2016 12:41:03 AM, DanneJeRusse wrote:
At 7/3/2016 12:38:01 AM, EtrnlVw wrote:
At 7/3/2016 12:35:41 AM, DanneJeRusse wrote:
At 7/2/2016 9:59:05 PM, EtrnlVw wrote:
At 7/2/2016 9:55:26 PM, DanneJeRusse wrote:
At 7/2/2016 9:12:02 PM, EtrnlVw wrote:
At 7/1/2016 4:08:01 PM, bulproof wrote:
If I knew anything about the ToE then I would tell you why it's wrong, but since I have absolutely no knowledge concerning the ToE I'm going to tell why the ToE is wrong.
Listen up now.

Would you like to tell us something about the "ToE" that we don't know or understand? we are all ears....

That would be everything because you understand nothing. And, since that is the case, it is your responsibility to educate yourself, not ours, we have already pursued our responsibility in that regard.

That didn't answer the question.

Yes, it did, go educate yourself, that is the answer.

Sorry, but you and the other troll made the claim, now answer that question...it should be easy for ya, since we know nothing.
Tell us all what we need to know about "ToE"....bigmouth...

It is your responsibility to educate yourself. If you refuse to do that, then you'll always remain ignorant.

You made the claim I never educated myself bigmouth, so apparently you know what I need to learn, now let's here it genius...