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Christianity and responsibility

janesix
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7/2/2016 9:49:24 PM
Posted: 5 months ago
At least one christian on ddo thinks that wanting to take respsponibility for our own actions is prideful, and that our slates should be wiped clean in jesus' forgiveness.

I replied that we SHOULD feel guilty for our mistakes, and that that is how we learn from our mistakes in order to become better people.

Am i right or am i wrong?
Shawn_Hartnell
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7/2/2016 9:56:43 PM
Posted: 5 months ago
At 7/2/2016 9:49:24 PM, janesix wrote:
At least one christian on ddo thinks that wanting to take respsponibility for our own actions is prideful, and that our slates should be wiped clean in jesus' forgiveness.

I replied that we SHOULD feel guilty for our mistakes, and that that is how we learn from our mistakes in order to become better people.

Am i right or am i wrong?

What's your standard of right and wrong?
janesix
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7/2/2016 10:01:09 PM
Posted: 5 months ago
At 7/2/2016 9:56:43 PM, Shawn_Hartnell wrote:
At 7/2/2016 9:49:24 PM, janesix wrote:
At least one christian on ddo thinks that wanting to take respsponibility for our own actions is prideful, and that our slates should be wiped clean in jesus' forgiveness.

I replied that we SHOULD feel guilty for our mistakes, and that that is how we learn from our mistakes in order to become better people.

Am i right or am i wrong?

What's your standard of right and wrong?

In this case, right or wrong means either correct or incorrect. The question is whether we should take responsibility for our actions and mistakes. Do you agree or disagree?
Shawn_Hartnell
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7/2/2016 10:01:53 PM
Posted: 5 months ago
At 7/2/2016 10:01:09 PM, janesix wrote:
At 7/2/2016 9:56:43 PM, Shawn_Hartnell wrote:
At 7/2/2016 9:49:24 PM, janesix wrote:
At least one christian on ddo thinks that wanting to take respsponibility for our own actions is prideful, and that our slates should be wiped clean in jesus' forgiveness.

I replied that we SHOULD feel guilty for our mistakes, and that that is how we learn from our mistakes in order to become better people.

Am i right or am i wrong?

What's your standard of right and wrong?

In this case, right or wrong means either correct or incorrect. The question is whether we should take responsibility for our actions and mistakes. Do you agree or disagree?

According to who?
Shawn_Hartnell
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7/2/2016 10:04:31 PM
Posted: 5 months ago
I may be misled by the title of this post. Is this to be taken from a Christian point of view or just a general opinion? If general, why include the bit about Christianity?
janesix
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7/2/2016 10:07:40 PM
Posted: 5 months ago
At 7/2/2016 10:01:53 PM, Shawn_Hartnell wrote:
At 7/2/2016 10:01:09 PM, janesix wrote:
At 7/2/2016 9:56:43 PM, Shawn_Hartnell wrote:
At 7/2/2016 9:49:24 PM, janesix wrote:
At least one christian on ddo thinks that wanting to take respsponibility for our own actions is prideful, and that our slates should be wiped clean in jesus' forgiveness.

I replied that we SHOULD feel guilty for our mistakes, and that that is how we learn from our mistakes in order to become better people.

Am i right or am i wrong?

What's your standard of right and wrong?

In this case, right or wrong means either correct or incorrect. The question is whether we should take responsibility for our actions and mistakes. Do you agree or disagree?

According to who?

According to you.
EtrnlVw
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7/2/2016 10:09:42 PM
Posted: 5 months ago
At 7/2/2016 9:49:24 PM, janesix wrote:
At least one christian on ddo thinks that wanting to take respsponibility for our own actions is prideful, and that our slates should be wiped clean in jesus' forgiveness.

Then chalk it up to one person, not all of us are ignorant. But thanks for distinguishing that. Most of the values in Christianity should be obvious from reading the Gospels and epistles...therefore we know we take responsibility for our actions....

Slates being wiped clean does not pardon sin, it pardons what was done.


I replied that we SHOULD feel guilty for our mistakes, and that that is how we learn from our mistakes in order to become better people.

Am i right or am i wrong?

Do we know what repentance means? you are correct, that means to feel guilty for what we have done and turn from it.....so any other view is compromised, I did not see the discussion but I agree with you.
janesix
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7/2/2016 10:10:06 PM
Posted: 5 months ago
At 7/2/2016 10:04:31 PM, Shawn_Hartnell wrote:
I may be misled by the title of this post. Is this to be taken from a Christian point of view or just a general opinion? If general, why include the bit about Christianity?

Thats the whole point. Im trying to figure out if this is a christian belief, or just the belief of one particular christian.
Shawn_Hartnell
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7/2/2016 10:11:34 PM
Posted: 5 months ago
At 7/2/2016 10:07:40 PM, janesix wrote:
At 7/2/2016 10:01:53 PM, Shawn_Hartnell wrote:
At 7/2/2016 10:01:09 PM, janesix wrote:
At 7/2/2016 9:56:43 PM, Shawn_Hartnell wrote:
At 7/2/2016 9:49:24 PM, janesix wrote:
At least one christian on ddo thinks that wanting to take respsponibility for our own actions is prideful, and that our slates should be wiped clean in jesus' forgiveness.

I replied that we SHOULD feel guilty for our mistakes, and that that is how we learn from our mistakes in order to become better people.

It's entirely possible to learn from your mistakes without the guilt. Failing to learn from your mistakes make stupid.

On the other hand, I can see the Christian's from their perspective.
Shawn_Hartnell
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7/2/2016 10:16:45 PM
Posted: 5 months ago
At 7/2/2016 10:10:06 PM, janesix wrote:
At 7/2/2016 10:04:31 PM, Shawn_Hartnell wrote:
I may be misled by the title of this post. Is this to be taken from a Christian point of view or just a general opinion? If general, why include the bit about Christianity?

Thats the whole point. Im trying to figure out if this is a christian belief, or just the belief of one particular christian.

I don't think the Christian is speaking in an absolute ethical terms like you seem to be taking it.