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7/3/2016 11:32:37 PM
Posted: 5 months ago
A large number of Bin Saud"s followers belong to the Wahabi sect, a form of
Mohammedanism which bears, roughly speaking, the same relation to Orthodox Islam as the most militant form of Calvanism would have bourne to Rome in the fiercest times of the religious wars. The Wahabis profess a life of exceeding austerity, and what they practice themselves, they rigorously enforce on others. They hold it as an article of duty, as well as of faith, to kill all who do not share their opinions and to make slaves of their wives and children. Women have been put to death in Wahabi villages for simply appearing in the streets. It is a penal offence to wear a silk garment. Men have been killed for smoking a cigarette, and as for the crime of alcohol, the most energetic supporter of the temperance cause in this country falls far behind them. Austere, intolerant, well-armed, and bloodthirsty, in their own regions the Wahabis are a distinct factor which must be taken into account, and they have been, and still are, very dangerous to the holy cities of Mecca and Medina, and to the whole institution of the pilgrimage, in which our Indian fellow-subjects are so deeply concerned."

Speech given by Winston Churchill in the House of Commons, 14 June 1921
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7/25/2016 10:25:57 PM
Posted: 4 months ago
At 7/3/2016 11:32:37 PM, lotsoffun wrote:
A large number of Bin Saud"s followers belong to the Wahabi sect, a form of
Mohammedanism which bears, roughly speaking, the same relation to Orthodox Islam as the most militant form of Calvanism would have bourne to Rome in the fiercest times of the religious wars. The Wahabis profess a life of exceeding austerity, and what they practice themselves, they rigorously enforce on others. They hold it as an article of duty, as well as of faith, to kill all who do not share their opinions and to make slaves of their wives and children. Women have been put to death in Wahabi villages for simply appearing in the streets. It is a penal offence to wear a silk garment. Men have been killed for smoking a cigarette, and as for the crime of alcohol, the most energetic supporter of the temperance cause in this country falls far behind them. Austere, intolerant, well-armed, and bloodthirsty, in their own regions the Wahabis are a distinct factor which must be taken into account, and they have been, and still are, very dangerous to the holy cities of Mecca and Medina, and to the whole institution of the pilgrimage, in which our Indian fellow-subjects are so deeply concerned."

Speech given by Winston Churchill in the House of Commons, 14 June 1921

And of course his enemy, Adolph suck a wank Hitler, praised Islam at every corner. Probably actually where he got many Nazi ideas seeing the Quran and Mein Kamp share a startling amount of deeper concepts and he mentioned Quranic terminology such as the 7th heaven, the virgin paradise, etc etc
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7/25/2016 11:46:16 PM
Posted: 4 months ago
At 7/25/2016 10:25:57 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 7/3/2016 11:32:37 PM, lotsoffun wrote:
A large number of Bin Saud"s followers belong to the Wahabi sect, a form of
Mohammedanism which bears, roughly speaking, the same relation to Orthodox Islam as the most militant form of Calvanism would have bourne to Rome in the fiercest times of the religious wars. The Wahabis profess a life of exceeding austerity, and what they practice themselves, they rigorously enforce on others. They hold it as an article of duty, as well as of faith, to kill all who do not share their opinions and to make slaves of their wives and children. Women have been put to death in Wahabi villages for simply appearing in the streets. It is a penal offence to wear a silk garment. Men have been killed for smoking a cigarette, and as for the crime of alcohol, the most energetic supporter of the temperance cause in this country falls far behind them. Austere, intolerant, well-armed, and bloodthirsty, in their own regions the Wahabis are a distinct factor which must be taken into account, and they have been, and still are, very dangerous to the holy cities of Mecca and Medina, and to the whole institution of the pilgrimage, in which our Indian fellow-subjects are so deeply concerned."

Speech given by Winston Churchill in the House of Commons, 14 June 1921

And of course his enemy, Adolph suck a wank Hitler, praised Islam at every corner. Probably actually where he got many Nazi ideas seeing the Quran and Mein Kamp share a startling amount of deeper concepts and he mentioned Quranic terminology such as the 7th heaven, the virgin paradise, etc etc
Actually, according to the Quran Hitler killed mankind 11,000,000 times over. Try again.
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7/26/2016 12:46:41 AM
Posted: 4 months ago
At 7/25/2016 11:46:16 PM, thedynasty139 wrote:
At 7/25/2016 10:25:57 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 7/3/2016 11:32:37 PM, lotsoffun wrote:
A large number of Bin Saud"s followers belong to the Wahabi sect, a form of
Mohammedanism which bears, roughly speaking, the same relation to Orthodox Islam as the most militant form of Calvanism would have bourne to Rome in the fiercest times of the religious wars. The Wahabis profess a life of exceeding austerity, and what they practice themselves, they rigorously enforce on others. They hold it as an article of duty, as well as of faith, to kill all who do not share their opinions and to make slaves of their wives and children. Women have been put to death in Wahabi villages for simply appearing in the streets. It is a penal offence to wear a silk garment. Men have been killed for smoking a cigarette, and as for the crime of alcohol, the most energetic supporter of the temperance cause in this country falls far behind them. Austere, intolerant, well-armed, and bloodthirsty, in their own regions the Wahabis are a distinct factor which must be taken into account, and they have been, and still are, very dangerous to the holy cities of Mecca and Medina, and to the whole institution of the pilgrimage, in which our Indian fellow-subjects are so deeply concerned."

Speech given by Winston Churchill in the House of Commons, 14 June 1921

And of course his enemy, Adolph suck a wank Hitler, praised Islam at every corner. Probably actually where he got many Nazi ideas seeing the Quran and Mein Kamp share a startling amount of deeper concepts and he mentioned Quranic terminology such as the 7th heaven, the virgin paradise, etc etc
Actually, according to the Quran Hitler killed mankind 11,000,000 times over. Try again.

Hitler was a Muslim supporter and received Islamic support in mass. He didn't have 30,000 of the Grand Mufti's Islamic soldiers in the Nazi corpse and the SS because he was the ideology's bitter enemy. He spoke highly of Islam and used it to help his cause. Google it or open a history book.
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7/26/2016 12:48:11 AM
Posted: 4 months ago
Hitler and the Mufti

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7/26/2016 12:50:27 AM
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You see, it's been our misfortune to have the wrong religion. Why didn't we have the religion of the Japanese, who regard sacrifice for the Fatherland as the highest good? The Mohammedan religion [Islam] too would have been more compatible to us than Christianity. Why did it have to be Christianity with its meekness and flabbiness?[4]
I can imagine people being enthusiastic about the paradise of Mohammed, but as for the insipid paradise of the Christians! In your lifetime, you used to hear the music of Richard Wagner. After your death, it will be nothing but hallelujahs, the waving of palms, children of an age for the feeding bottle, and hoary old men. The man of the isles pays homage to the forces of nature. But Christianity is an invention of sick brains: one could imagine nothing more senseless, nor any more indecent way of turning the idea of the Godhead into a mockery. A n***** with his taboos is crushingly superior to the human being who seriously believes in transubstantiation.[5]
Had Charles Martel not been victorious at Poitiers -already, you see, the world had already fallen into the hands of the Jews, so gutless a thing Christianity! -then we should in all probability have been converted to Mohammedanism [Islam], that cult which glorifies the heroism and which opens up the seventh Heaven to the bold warrior alone. Then the Germanic races would have conquered the world. Christianity alone prevented them from doing so.[6]
The best thing is to let Christianity die a natural death. A slow death has something comforting about it. The dogma of Christianity gets worn away before the advances of science... The instructions of a hygienic nature that most religions gave, contributed to the foundation of organized communities. The precepts ordering people to wash, to avoid certain drinks, to fast at appointed dates, to take exercise, to rise with the sun, to climb to the top of the minaret " all these were obligations invented by intelligent people. The exhortation to fight courageously is also self-explanatory. Observe, by the way, that, as a corollary, the Moslem was promised a paradise peopled with sensual girls, where wine flowed in streams " a real earthly paradise. The Christians, on the other hand, declare themselves satisfied if after their death they are allowed to sing hallelujahs! ...Christianity, of course, has reached the peak of absurdity in this respect. And that's why one day its structure will collapse. Science has already impregnated humanity. Consequently, the more Christianity clings to its dogmas, the quicker it will decline.![7]

-Adolph Hitler

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7/26/2016 12:53:58 AM
Posted: 4 months ago
Although the word Jihad standing by itself means "struggle," what Westerners need to focus on when reading the Hadith regarding Mohammed"s Jihad is similar to the focus needed when reading Mein Kampf (My Struggle) by Adolph Hitler."
-Walid Shoebat, ex Muslim

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7/26/2016 12:56:10 AM
Posted: 4 months ago
At 7/26/2016 12:46:41 AM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 7/25/2016 11:46:16 PM, thedynasty139 wrote:
At 7/25/2016 10:25:57 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 7/3/2016 11:32:37 PM, lotsoffun wrote:
A large number of Bin Saud"s followers belong to the Wahabi sect, a form of
Mohammedanism which bears, roughly speaking, the same relation to Orthodox Islam as the most militant form of Calvanism would have bourne to Rome in the fiercest times of the religious wars. The Wahabis profess a life of exceeding austerity, and what they practice themselves, they rigorously enforce on others. They hold it as an article of duty, as well as of faith, to kill all who do not share their opinions and to make slaves of their wives and children. Women have been put to death in Wahabi villages for simply appearing in the streets. It is a penal offence to wear a silk garment. Men have been killed for smoking a cigarette, and as for the crime of alcohol, the most energetic supporter of the temperance cause in this country falls far behind them. Austere, intolerant, well-armed, and bloodthirsty, in their own regions the Wahabis are a distinct factor which must be taken into account, and they have been, and still are, very dangerous to the holy cities of Mecca and Medina, and to the whole institution of the pilgrimage, in which our Indian fellow-subjects are so deeply concerned."

Speech given by Winston Churchill in the House of Commons, 14 June 1921

And of course his enemy, Adolph suck a wank Hitler, praised Islam at every corner. Probably actually where he got many Nazi ideas seeing the Quran and Mein Kamp share a startling amount of deeper concepts and he mentioned Quranic terminology such as the 7th heaven, the virgin paradise, etc etc
Actually, according to the Quran Hitler killed mankind 11,000,000 times over. Try again.

Hitler was a Muslim supporter and received Islamic support in mass. He didn't have 30,000 of the Grand Mufti's Islamic soldiers in the Nazi corpse and the SS because he was the ideology's bitter enemy. He spoke highly of Islam and used it to help his cause. Google it or open a history book.
I could care less. You made a point and I refuted it. Linking me to an irrelevant site is meaningless. Show me where in the Quran or Hadith it condones Hitler's actions. That was your initial claim, stop dodging.
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7/26/2016 1:02:54 AM
Posted: 4 months ago
At 7/26/2016 12:53:58 AM, brontoraptor wrote:
Although the word Jihad standing by itself means "struggle," what Westerners need to focus on when reading the Hadith regarding Mohammed"s Jihad is similar to the focus needed when reading Mein Kampf (My Struggle) by Adolph Hitler."
-Walid Shoebat, ex Muslim

https://www.goodreads.com...
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A man came to the Prophet asking his permission to take part in Jihad. The Prophet asked him, "Are your parents alive?" He replied in the affirmative. The Prophet said to him, "Then exert yourself in their service." Bukhari, Book 52.
Imam Ja"far al-Sadiq said: "The Prophet of God dispatched a contingent of the army (to the battlefront). Upon their (successful) return, he said: "Blessed are those who have performed the minor Jihad and have yet to perform the major Jihad." When asked, "What is the major Jihad?" the Prophet replied: "The Jihad of the self"." Al-Majlisi, Bihar al-Anwar, Vol. 19, pg. 182; Hadrat Abu Dharr asked Prophet Muhammad, ""Which struggle is the best?" The Holy Prophet replied, "To struggle against one"s own self and lusts."" Bihar al-Anwar, Vol. 67.
A man came to the Prophet and said, "O Allah"s Apostle! I have enlisted in the army for such-and-such Ghazwa (to join in war with the Prophet), and my wife is leaving for Hajj (pilgrimage)." Allah"s Apostle said, "Go back and perform Hajj with your wife." Bukhari, Vol. 4, Book 52. The Prophet was asked by his wives about Jihad and he replied, "The best Jihad (for you) is (the performance of) Hajj." Bukhari, Vol. 4, Book 52.
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7/26/2016 1:09:23 AM
Posted: 4 months ago
At 7/26/2016 1:02:54 AM, thedynasty139 wrote:
At 7/26/2016 12:53:58 AM, brontoraptor wrote:
Although the word Jihad standing by itself means "struggle," what Westerners need to focus on when reading the Hadith regarding Mohammed"s Jihad is similar to the focus needed when reading Mein Kampf (My Struggle) by Adolph Hitler."
-Walid Shoebat, ex Muslim

https://www.goodreads.com...
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A man came to the Prophet asking his permission to take part in Jihad. The Prophet asked him, "Are your parents alive?" He replied in the affirmative. The Prophet said to him, "Then exert yourself in their service." Bukhari, Book 52.
Imam Ja"far al-Sadiq said: "The Prophet of God dispatched a contingent of the army (to the battlefront). Upon their (successful) return, he said: "Blessed are those who have performed the minor Jihad and have yet to perform the major Jihad." When asked, "What is the major Jihad?" the Prophet replied: "The Jihad of the self"." Al-Majlisi, Bihar al-Anwar, Vol. 19, pg. 182; Hadrat Abu Dharr asked Prophet Muhammad, ""Which struggle is the best?" The Holy Prophet replied, "To struggle against one"s own self and lusts."" Bihar al-Anwar, Vol. 67.
A man came to the Prophet and said, "O Allah"s Apostle! I have enlisted in the army for such-and-such Ghazwa (to join in war with the Prophet), and my wife is leaving for Hajj (pilgrimage)." Allah"s Apostle said, "Go back and perform Hajj with your wife." Bukhari, Vol. 4, Book 52. The Prophet was asked by his wives about Jihad and he replied, "The best Jihad (for you) is (the performance of) Hajj." Bukhari, Vol. 4, Book 52.

I wonder why Hitler didn't steal the molesting a 6 year old or being demon posessed as a child idea.
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7/26/2016 1:11:28 AM
Posted: 4 months ago
At 7/26/2016 12:56:10 AM, thedynasty139 wrote:
At 7/26/2016 12:46:41 AM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 7/25/2016 11:46:16 PM, thedynasty139 wrote:
At 7/25/2016 10:25:57 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 7/3/2016 11:32:37 PM, lotsoffun wrote:
A large number of Bin Saud"s followers belong to the Wahabi sect, a form of
Mohammedanism which bears, roughly speaking, the same relation to Orthodox Islam as the most militant form of Calvanism would have bourne to Rome in the fiercest times of the religious wars. The Wahabis profess a life of exceeding austerity, and what they practice themselves, they rigorously enforce on others. They hold it as an article of duty, as well as of faith, to kill all who do not share their opinions and to make slaves of their wives and children. Women have been put to death in Wahabi villages for simply appearing in the streets. It is a penal offence to wear a silk garment. Men have been killed for smoking a cigarette, and as for the crime of alcohol, the most energetic supporter of the temperance cause in this country falls far behind them. Austere, intolerant, well-armed, and bloodthirsty, in their own regions the Wahabis are a distinct factor which must be taken into account, and they have been, and still are, very dangerous to the holy cities of Mecca and Medina, and to the whole institution of the pilgrimage, in which our Indian fellow-subjects are so deeply concerned."

Speech given by Winston Churchill in the House of Commons, 14 June 1921

And of course his enemy, Adolph suck a wank Hitler, praised Islam at every corner. Probably actually where he got many Nazi ideas seeing the Quran and Mein Kamp share a startling amount of deeper concepts and he mentioned Quranic terminology such as the 7th heaven, the virgin paradise, etc etc
Actually, according to the Quran Hitler killed mankind 11,000,000 times over. Try again.

Hitler was a Muslim supporter and received Islamic support in mass. He didn't have 30,000 of the Grand Mufti's Islamic soldiers in the Nazi corpse and the SS because he was the ideology's bitter enemy. He spoke highly of Islam and used it to help his cause. Google it or open a history book.
I could care less. You made a point and I refuted it. Linking me to an irrelevant site is meaningless. Show me where in the Quran or Hadith it condones Hitler's actions. That was your initial claim, stop dodging.

Jews are apes and pigs.

Slay them wherever you find them.

Muhammed beheaded 800+ Jews. Is it really neccessary to quote the Quran or hadith. I could give a copy paste job a mile long about Jews and killing unbelievers.
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7/26/2016 1:16:51 AM
Posted: 4 months ago
At 7/26/2016 1:09:23 AM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 7/26/2016 1:02:54 AM, thedynasty139 wrote:
At 7/26/2016 12:53:58 AM, brontoraptor wrote:
Although the word Jihad standing by itself means "struggle," what Westerners need to focus on when reading the Hadith regarding Mohammed"s Jihad is similar to the focus needed when reading Mein Kampf (My Struggle) by Adolph Hitler."
-Walid Shoebat, ex Muslim

https://www.goodreads.com...
Not at all:
A man came to the Prophet asking his permission to take part in Jihad. The Prophet asked him, "Are your parents alive?" He replied in the affirmative. The Prophet said to him, "Then exert yourself in their service." Bukhari, Book 52.
Imam Ja"far al-Sadiq said: "The Prophet of God dispatched a contingent of the army (to the battlefront). Upon their (successful) return, he said: "Blessed are those who have performed the minor Jihad and have yet to perform the major Jihad." When asked, "What is the major Jihad?" the Prophet replied: "The Jihad of the self"." Al-Majlisi, Bihar al-Anwar, Vol. 19, pg. 182; Hadrat Abu Dharr asked Prophet Muhammad, ""Which struggle is the best?" The Holy Prophet replied, "To struggle against one"s own self and lusts."" Bihar al-Anwar, Vol. 67.
A man came to the Prophet and said, "O Allah"s Apostle! I have enlisted in the army for such-and-such Ghazwa (to join in war with the Prophet), and my wife is leaving for Hajj (pilgrimage)." Allah"s Apostle said, "Go back and perform Hajj with your wife." Bukhari, Vol. 4, Book 52. The Prophet was asked by his wives about Jihad and he replied, "The best Jihad (for you) is (the performance of) Hajj." Bukhari, Vol. 4, Book 52.

I wonder why Hitler didn't steal the molesting a 6 year old or being demon posessed as a child idea.
Dodge harder.
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7/26/2016 1:19:58 AM
Posted: 4 months ago
At 7/26/2016 1:16:51 AM, thedynasty139 wrote:
At 7/26/2016 1:09:23 AM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 7/26/2016 1:02:54 AM, thedynasty139 wrote:
At 7/26/2016 12:53:58 AM, brontoraptor wrote:
Although the word Jihad standing by itself means "struggle," what Westerners need to focus on when reading the Hadith regarding Mohammed"s Jihad is similar to the focus needed when reading Mein Kampf (My Struggle) by Adolph Hitler."
-Walid Shoebat, ex Muslim

https://www.goodreads.com...
Not at all:
A man came to the Prophet asking his permission to take part in Jihad. The Prophet asked him, "Are your parents alive?" He replied in the affirmative. The Prophet said to him, "Then exert yourself in their service." Bukhari, Book 52.
Imam Ja"far al-Sadiq said: "The Prophet of God dispatched a contingent of the army (to the battlefront). Upon their (successful) return, he said: "Blessed are those who have performed the minor Jihad and have yet to perform the major Jihad." When asked, "What is the major Jihad?" the Prophet replied: "The Jihad of the self"." Al-Majlisi, Bihar al-Anwar, Vol. 19, pg. 182; Hadrat Abu Dharr asked Prophet Muhammad, ""Which struggle is the best?" The Holy Prophet replied, "To struggle against one"s own self and lusts."" Bihar al-Anwar, Vol. 67.
A man came to the Prophet and said, "O Allah"s Apostle! I have enlisted in the army for such-and-such Ghazwa (to join in war with the Prophet), and my wife is leaving for Hajj (pilgrimage)." Allah"s Apostle said, "Go back and perform Hajj with your wife." Bukhari, Vol. 4, Book 52. The Prophet was asked by his wives about Jihad and he replied, "The best Jihad (for you) is (the performance of) Hajj." Bukhari, Vol. 4, Book 52.

I wonder why Hitler didn't steal the molesting a 6 year old or being demon posessed as a child idea.

This Quran?
Dodge harder.
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7/26/2016 1:20:24 AM
Posted: 4 months ago
2:65 Allah transforms disobedient Jews into apes

"And well you know there were those among you [Jews] that transgressed the Sabbath, and We said to them, "Be you apes, miserably slinking!"

2:89 Unbelievers, particularly Jews, are accursed

"When there came to them [Jews] a Book from Allah, confirming what was with them " and they aforetimes prayed for victory over the unbelievers " when there came to them that they recognized, they disbelieved in it; and the curse of Allah is on the unbelievers.

2:191-193 Fight and kill unbelievers until "religion is Allah"s," i.e. Islamic law rules all societies

"And slay them wherever you come upon them, and expel them from where they expelled you; persecution is more grievous than slaying. But fight them not by the Holy Mosque until they should fight you there; then, if they fight you, slay them " such is the recompense of unbelievers, but if they give over, surely Allah is All-forgiving, All-compassionate. Fight them, till there is no persecution and the religion is Allah"s; then if they give over, there shall be no enmity save for evildoers."

3:28 Don"t take unbelievers as friends and allies, unless it is for "fear of them," i.e. deceptively for protection of oneself or of Islam

"Let not the believers take the unbelievers for friends, rather than the believers " for whoso does that belongs not to Allah in anything " unless you have a fear of them. Allah warns you that You beware of Him, and unto Allah is the homecoming."

3:110-112 Muslims are the best of people, Jews have earned Allah"s anger

"You are the best nation ever brought forth to men, bidding to honour, and forbidding dishonour, and believing in Allah. Had the People of the Book believed, it were better for them; some of them are believers, but the most of them are ungodly. They will not harm you, except a little hurt; and if they fight with you, they will turn on you their backs; then they will not be helped. Abasement shall be pitched on them, wherever they are come upon, except they be in a bond of Allah, and a bond of the people; they will be laden with the burden of Allah"s anger, and poverty shall be pitched on them; that, because they disbelieved in Allah"s signs, and slew the Prophets without right; that, for that they acted rebelliously and were transgressors."

3:151 Allah will cast terror into the unbelievers" hearts

"We will cast into the hearts of the unbelievers terror, for that they have associated with Allah that for which He sent down never authority; their lodging shall be the Fire; evil is the lodging of the evildoers."

3:181 Jews are bound for hell

"Allah has heard the saying of those who said, "Surely Allah is poor, and we are rich." We shall write down what they have said, and their slaying the Prophets without right, and We shall say, "Taste the chastisement of the burning.""

4:34 Beat disobedient women

"Men are the managers of the affairs of women for that Allah has preferred in bounty one of them over another, and for that they have expended of their property. Righteous women are therefore obedient, guarding the secret for Allah"s guarding. And those you fear may be rebellious admonish; banish them to their couches, and beat them. If they then obey you, look not for any way against them; Allah is All-high, All-great."

4:160 Jews do evil, turn people away from Allah

"And for the evildoing of those of Jewry, We have forbidden them certain good things that were permitted to them, and for their barring from Allah"s way many""

5:33 Crucify or amputate the hands and feet of those who make war against Allah and Muhammad

"This is the recompense of those who fight against Allah and His Messenger, and hasten about the earth, to do corruption there: they shall be slaughtered, or crucified, or their hands and feet shall alternately be struck off; or they shall be banished from the land. That is a degradation for them in this world; and in the world to come awaits them a mighty chastisement."

5:41 Jews listen to falsehood and pervert the meaning of their Scriptures

"O Messenger, let them not grieve thee that vie with one another in unbelief, such men as say with their mouths "We believe" but their hearts believe not; and the Jews who listen to falsehood, listen to other folk, who have not come to thee, perverting words from their meanings, saying, "If you are given this, then take it; if you are not given it, beware!" Whomsoever Allah desires to try, thou canst not avail him anything with Allah. Those are they whose hearts Allah desired not to purify; for them is degradation in this world; and in the world to come awaits them a mighty chastisement."

5:51 Don"t take Jews and Christians as friends and allies

"O believers, take not Jews and Christians as friends; they are friends of each other. Whoso of you makes them his friends is one of them. Allah guides not the people of the evildoers."

5:59-60 Jews cursed, made into apes and swine

"Say: "People of the Book, do you blame us for any other cause than that we believe in Allah, and what has been sent down to us, and what was sent down before, and that most of you are ungodly?" Say: "Shall I tell you of a recompense with Allah, worse than that? Whomsoever Allah has cursed, and with whom He is wroth, and made some of them apes and swine, and worshippers of idols " they are worse situated, and have gone further astray from the right way.""

5:64 Jews accursed

"The Jews have said, "Allah"s hand is fettered." Fettered are their hands, and they are cursed for what they have said. Nay, but His hands are outspread; He expends how He will. And what has been sent down to thee from thy Lord will surely increase many of them in insolence and unbelief; and We have cast between them enmity and hatred, till the Day of Resurrection. As often as they light a fire for war, Allah will extinguish it. They hasten about the earth, to do corruption there; and Allah loves not the workers of corruption."
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7/26/2016 1:23:04 AM
Posted: 4 months ago
5:59-60 Jews cursed, made into apes and swine

"Say: "People of the Book, do you blame us for any other cause than that we believe in Allah, and what has been sent down to us, and what was sent down before, and that most of you are ungodly?" Say: "Shall I tell you of a recompense with Allah, worse than that? Whomsoever Allah has cursed, and with whom He is wroth, and made some of them apes and swine, and worshippers of idols " they are worse situated, and have gone further astray from the right way.""

5:64 Jews accursed

"The Jews have said, "Allah"s hand is fettered." Fettered are their hands, and they are cursed for what they have said. Nay, but His hands are outspread; He expends how He will. And what has been sent down to thee from thy Lord will surely increase many of them in insolence and unbelief; and We have cast between them enmity and hatred, till the Day of Resurrection. As often as they light a fire for war, Allah will extinguish it. They hasten about the earth, to do corruption there; and Allah loves not the workers of corruption."

5:72 Christians are unbelievers

"They are unbelievers who say, "Allah is the Messiah, Mary"s son." For the Messiah said, "Children of Israel, serve God, my Lord and your Lord. Verily whoso associates with Allah anything, Allah shall prohibit him entrance to Paradise, and his refuge shall be the Fire; and wrongdoers shall have no helpers.""

5:82 Jews most hostile to the Muslims

"Thou wilt surely find the most hostile of men to the believers are the Jews and the idolaters; and thou wilt surely find the nearest of them in love to the believers are those who say "We are Christians"; that, because some of them are priests and monks, and they wax not proud."

6:91 Jews deny, conceal divine revelations

"They measured not Allah with His true measure when they said, "Allah has not sent down aught on any mortal." Say: "Who sent down the Book that Moses brought as a light and a guidance to men? You put it into parchments, revealing them, and hiding much; and you were taught that you knew not, you and your fathers." Say: "Allah." Then leave them alone, playing their game of plunging."

6:146 Jews insolent

"And to those of Jewry We have forbidden every beast with claws; and of oxen and sheep We have forbidden them the fat of them, save what their backs carry, or their entrails, or what is mingled with bone; that We recompensed them for their insolence; surely We speak truly."

7:166 Jews are apes

"And when they [Jews] turned in disdain from that forbidding We said to them, "Be you apes, miserably slinking!""

8:12 Allah will terrorize unbelievers; Muslims should behead them

"When thy Lord was revealing to the angels, "I am with you; so confirm the believers. I shall cast into the unbelievers" hearts terror; so smite above the necks, and smite every finger of them!""

8:39 Fight unbelievers until Islam reigns supreme

"Fight them, till there is no persecution and the religion is Allah"s entirely; then if they give over, surely Allah sees the things they do."

8:60 Make war against enemies of Allah

"Make ready for them whatever force and strings of horses you can, to terrify thereby the enemy of Allah and your enemy, and others besides them that you know not; Allah knows them. And whatsoever you expend in the way of Allah shall be repaid you in full; you will not be wronged."

9:5 Slay the idolaters

"Then, when the sacred months are drawn away, slay the idolaters wherever you find them, and take them, and confine them, and lie in wait for them at every place of ambush. But if they repent, and perform the prayer, and pay the alms, then let them go their way; Allah is All-forgiving, All-compassionate."

9:28 Idolaters unclean

"O believers, the idolaters are indeed unclean; so let them not come near the Holy Mosque after this year of theirs. If you fear poverty, Allah shall surely enrich you of His bounty, if He will; Allah is All-knowing; All-wise."

9:29 Fight and subjugate the Jews and Christians

"Fight those who believe not in Allah and the Last Day and do not forbid what Allah and His Messenger have forbidden " such men as practise not the religion of truth, being of those who have been given the Book " until they pay the tribute out of hand and have been humbled."

9:30 Jews and Christians assailed by Allah

"The Jews say, "Ezra is the Son of Allah"; the Christians say, "The Messiah is the Son of Allah." That is the utterance of their mouths, conforming with the unbelievers before them. Allah assail them! How they are perverted!"

9:31 Jews and Christians have taken their clergy and holy men as lords

"They have taken their rabbis and their monks as lords apart from Allah, and the Messiah, Mary"s son " and they were commanded to serve but One Allah; there is no god but He; glory be to Him, above that they associate."

9:73 Be harsh with unbelievers

"O Prophet, struggle with the unbelievers and hypocrites, and be thou harsh with them; their refuge is Gehenna " an evil homecoming!"

9:111 Paradise guaranteed to those who kill and are killed for Allah

"Allah has bought from the believers their selves and their possessions against the gift of Paradise; they fight in the way of Allah; they kill, and are killed; that is a promise binding upon Allah in the Torah, and the Gospel, and the Koran; and who fulfils his covenant truer than Allah? So rejoice in the bargain you have made with Him; that is the mighty triumph."

9:123 Fight the unbelievers, be harsh with them

"O believers, fight the unbelievers who are near to you; and let them find in you a harshness; and know that Allah is with the godfearing."

47:4 Behead and slaughter the unbelievers; take others captive

"When you meet the unbelievers, smite their necks, then, when you have made wide slaughter among them, tie fast the bonds; then set them free, either by grace or ransom, till the war lays down its loads. So it shall be; and if Allah had willed, He would have avenged Himself upon them; but that He may try some of you by means of others. And those who are slain in the way of Allah, He will not send their works astray."

48:29 Be merciful to believers, not unbelievers

"Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah, and those who are with him are hard against the unbelievers, merciful one to another."

62:6 Jews should long for death

"Say: "You of Jewry, if you assert that you are the friends of Allah, apart from other men, then do you long for death, if you speak truly.""

98:6 Unbelievers are the worst of creatures

"The unbelievers of the People of the Book and the idolaters shall be in the Fire of Gehenna, therein dwelling forever; those are the worst of creatures."
"What Donald Trump is doing is representing the absolute heartbreak, and anger, and frustration at a government gone mad."

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7/26/2016 1:25:06 AM
Posted: 4 months ago
At 7/26/2016 1:16:51 AM, thedynasty139 wrote:
At 7/26/2016 1:09:23 AM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 7/26/2016 1:02:54 AM, thedynasty139 wrote:
At 7/26/2016 12:53:58 AM, brontoraptor wrote:
Although the word Jihad standing by itself means "struggle," what Westerners need to focus on when reading the Hadith regarding Mohammed"s Jihad is similar to the focus needed when reading Mein Kampf (My Struggle) by Adolph Hitler."
-Walid Shoebat, ex Muslim

https://www.goodreads.com...
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A man came to the Prophet asking his permission to take part in Jihad. The Prophet asked him, "Are your parents alive?" He replied in the affirmative. The Prophet said to him, "Then exert yourself in their service." Bukhari, Book 52.
Imam Ja"far al-Sadiq said: "The Prophet of God dispatched a contingent of the army (to the battlefront). Upon their (successful) return, he said: "Blessed are those who have performed the minor Jihad and have yet to perform the major Jihad." When asked, "What is the major Jihad?" the Prophet replied: "The Jihad of the self"." Al-Majlisi, Bihar al-Anwar, Vol. 19, pg. 182; Hadrat Abu Dharr asked Prophet Muhammad, ""Which struggle is the best?" The Holy Prophet replied, "To struggle against one"s own self and lusts."" Bihar al-Anwar, Vol. 67.
A man came to the Prophet and said, "O Allah"s Apostle! I have enlisted in the army for such-and-such Ghazwa (to join in war with the Prophet), and my wife is leaving for Hajj (pilgrimage)." Allah"s Apostle said, "Go back and perform Hajj with your wife." Bukhari, Vol. 4, Book 52. The Prophet was asked by his wives about Jihad and he replied, "The best Jihad (for you) is (the performance of) Hajj." Bukhari, Vol. 4, Book 52.

I wonder why Hitler didn't steal the molesting a 6 year old or being demon posessed as a child idea.
Dodge harder.

I'm trying to decide if you are playing taqiya orif it is more maruna. I've been away for so long that I'm rusty on my Islamic deception techniques towards the infidel.
"What Donald Trump is doing is representing the absolute heartbreak, and anger, and frustration at a government gone mad."

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7/26/2016 1:25:19 AM
Posted: 4 months ago
At 7/26/2016 1:11:28 AM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 7/26/2016 12:56:10 AM, thedynasty139 wrote:
At 7/26/2016 12:46:41 AM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 7/25/2016 11:46:16 PM, thedynasty139 wrote:
At 7/25/2016 10:25:57 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 7/3/2016 11:32:37 PM, lotsoffun wrote:
A large number of Bin Saud"s followers belong to the Wahabi sect, a form of
Mohammedanism which bears, roughly speaking, the same relation to Orthodox Islam as the most militant form of Calvanism would have bourne to Rome in the fiercest times of the religious wars. The Wahabis profess a life of exceeding austerity, and what they practice themselves, they rigorously enforce on others. They hold it as an article of duty, as well as of faith, to kill all who do not share their opinions and to make slaves of their wives and children. Women have been put to death in Wahabi villages for simply appearing in the streets. It is a penal offence to wear a silk garment. Men have been killed for smoking a cigarette, and as for the crime of alcohol, the most energetic supporter of the temperance cause in this country falls far behind them. Austere, intolerant, well-armed, and bloodthirsty, in their own regions the Wahabis are a distinct factor which must be taken into account, and they have been, and still are, very dangerous to the holy cities of Mecca and Medina, and to the whole institution of the pilgrimage, in which our Indian fellow-subjects are so deeply concerned."

Speech given by Winston Churchill in the House of Commons, 14 June 1921

And of course his enemy, Adolph suck a wank Hitler, praised Islam at every corner. Probably actually where he got many Nazi ideas seeing the Quran and Mein Kamp share a startling amount of deeper concepts and he mentioned Quranic terminology such as the 7th heaven, the virgin paradise, etc etc
Actually, according to the Quran Hitler killed mankind 11,000,000 times over. Try again.

Hitler was a Muslim supporter and received Islamic support in mass. He didn't have 30,000 of the Grand Mufti's Islamic soldiers in the Nazi corpse and the SS because he was the ideology's bitter enemy. He spoke highly of Islam and used it to help his cause. Google it or open a history book.
I could care less. You made a point and I refuted it. Linking me to an irrelevant site is meaningless. Show me where in the Quran or Hadith it condones Hitler's actions. That was your initial claim, stop dodging.

Jews are apes and pigs.

Slay them wherever you find them.

Muhammed beheaded 800+ Jews. Is it really neccessary to quote the Quran or hadith. I could give a copy paste job a mile long about Jews and killing unbelievers.
Allow me to throw your advice back to you: open a history book. Those Jews decided upon their own sentence in their own Torah, and Muhammad did not even order this execution. The only thing Muhammad had to do with this was to agree on an arbitrator who would decide the sentence of high treason during a siege (which is a death sentence in the US btw) who chose the sentence on the terms of the Torah.
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7/26/2016 1:40:04 AM
Posted: 4 months ago
At 7/26/2016 1:25:06 AM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 7/26/2016 1:16:51 AM, thedynasty139 wrote:
At 7/26/2016 1:09:23 AM, brontoraptor wrote:
At 7/26/2016 1:02:54 AM, thedynasty139 wrote:
At 7/26/2016 12:53:58 AM, brontoraptor wrote:
Although the word Jihad standing by itself means "struggle," what Westerners need to focus on when reading the Hadith regarding Mohammed"s Jihad is similar to the focus needed when reading Mein Kampf (My Struggle) by Adolph Hitler."
-Walid Shoebat, ex Muslim

https://www.goodreads.com...
Not at all:
A man came to the Prophet asking his permission to take part in Jihad. The Prophet asked him, "Are your parents alive?" He replied in the affirmative. The Prophet said to him, "Then exert yourself in their service." Bukhari, Book 52.
Imam Ja"far al-Sadiq said: "The Prophet of God dispatched a contingent of the army (to the battlefront). Upon their (successful) return, he said: "Blessed are those who have performed the minor Jihad and have yet to perform the major Jihad." When asked, "What is the major Jihad?" the Prophet replied: "The Jihad of the self"." Al-Majlisi, Bihar al-Anwar, Vol. 19, pg. 182; Hadrat Abu Dharr asked Prophet Muhammad, ""Which struggle is the best?" The Holy Prophet replied, "To struggle against one"s own self and lusts."" Bihar al-Anwar, Vol. 67.
A man came to the Prophet and said, "O Allah"s Apostle! I have enlisted in the army for such-and-such Ghazwa (to join in war with the Prophet), and my wife is leaving for Hajj (pilgrimage)." Allah"s Apostle said, "Go back and perform Hajj with your wife." Bukhari, Vol. 4, Book 52. The Prophet was asked by his wives about Jihad and he replied, "The best Jihad (for you) is (the performance of) Hajj." Bukhari, Vol. 4, Book 52.

I wonder why Hitler didn't steal the molesting a 6 year old or being demon posessed as a child idea.
Dodge harder.

I'm trying to decide if you are playing taqiya orif it is more maruna. I've been away for so long that I'm rusty on my Islamic deception techniques towards the infidel.
I'm trying to decide if you're trolling or just dodging. Either way, you're succeeding. Keep it up.