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7/29/2016 1:25:50 PM
Posted: 4 months ago
At 7/29/2016 1:05:28 PM, Deb-8-A-Bull wrote:
What would tomorrow be like. ?

The same except I won't be wearing the knee pads.
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7/29/2016 7:26:58 PM
Posted: 4 months ago
At 7/29/2016 1:05:28 PM, Deb-8-A-Bull wrote:
What would tomorrow be like. ?

I did it. It was great. Highly recommend it :)
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7/29/2016 8:00:23 PM
Posted: 4 months ago
At 7/29/2016 7:26:58 PM, matt8800 wrote:
At 7/29/2016 1:05:28 PM, Deb-8-A-Bull wrote:
What would tomorrow be like. ?

I did it. It was great. Highly recommend it :)

So when you woke up the day after you did this, was there a shell or skin left over from the transformation. ?

Did it hurt ?

It must of freaked you out a little , waking up with no morals and all that. How did you know not to eat babies. ?
Nice work Matt.
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7/29/2016 8:10:50 PM
Posted: 4 months ago
At 7/29/2016 8:00:23 PM, Deb-8-A-Bull wrote:
At 7/29/2016 7:26:58 PM, matt8800 wrote:
At 7/29/2016 1:05:28 PM, Deb-8-A-Bull wrote:
What would tomorrow be like. ?

I did it. It was great. Highly recommend it :)

So when you woke up the day after you did this, was there a shell or skin left over from the transformation. ?

Yes, there was a shell of shame left over from being so stupid to believe all that insanity.

Did it hurt ?

It takes a little adjusting to a world with no imaginary friend. Obviously, its all mental.

It must of freaked you out a little , waking up with no morals and all that.

Yes, I was finally free to do bad stuff.

How did you know not to eat babies. ?

It was illegal. If it was legal, I would have eaten a whole plateful of babies.

Nice work Matt.
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7/29/2016 10:48:03 PM
Posted: 4 months ago
At 7/29/2016 1:05:28 PM, Deb-8-A-Bull wrote:
What would tomorrow be like. ?

Response: A party of pointless, unguided morality. In other words, atheism.
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7/29/2016 11:13:17 PM
Posted: 4 months ago
At 7/29/2016 10:48:03 PM, Fatihah wrote:
At 7/29/2016 1:05:28 PM, Deb-8-A-Bull wrote:
What would tomorrow be like. ?

Response: A party of pointless, unguided morality. In other words, atheism.

Why pointless. Do you hate yourself that much. Is your belief the only reason why your still alive. That's sad , cheer up big fella.

Unguided morality , I've been living 37 years with no rules, that's more morality then a book would give. If your books different then the Christians book and your both claiming morality , I'll read both of them imagine my morality then , I'll even chuck in a few more religious books.
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7/29/2016 11:16:49 PM
Posted: 4 months ago
At 7/29/2016 11:13:17 PM, Deb-8-A-Bull wrote:

Why pointless. Do you hate yourself that much. Is your belief the only reason why your still alive. That's sad , cheer up big fella.

Unguided morality , I've been living 37 years with no rules, that's more morality then a book would give. If your books different then the Christians book and your both claiming morality , I'll read both of them imagine my morality then , I'll even chuck in a few more religious books.

Response: I have to hate. I'm an atheist now. Without religion, I can kill, murder party, have sex with whomever, and other pointless acts, then tell other people their wrong and deluded even though I'm the atheist so clearly I'm deluded.
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7/29/2016 11:21:11 PM
Posted: 4 months ago
At 7/29/2016 1:05:28 PM, Deb-8-A-Bull wrote:
What would tomorrow be like. ?

I would just make up my own moral code that benefits myself
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7/29/2016 11:28:51 PM
Posted: 4 months ago
At 7/29/2016 11:16:49 PM, Fatihah wrote:
At 7/29/2016 11:13:17 PM, Deb-8-A-Bull wrote:

Why pointless. Do you hate yourself that much. Is your belief the only reason why your still alive. That's sad , cheer up big fella.

Unguided morality , I've been living 37 years with no rules, that's more morality then a book would give. If your books different then the Christians book and your both claiming morality , I'll read both of them imagine my morality then , I'll even chuck in a few more religious books.

Response: I have to hate. I'm an atheist now. Without religion, I can kill, murder party, have sex with whomever, and other pointless acts, then tell other people their wrong and deluded even though I'm the atheist so clearly I'm deluded.

Response I have to hate. I'm a Muslim christian jew now. Your simple 1 book morality is no match to my 3 booker. You can't possibly no right from wrong. You don't even believe in a second opinion.

But at least you would be truthful to yourself.
And if that's your thing . That's YOUR thing.
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7/29/2016 11:31:33 PM
Posted: 4 months ago
At 7/29/2016 11:28:51 PM, Deb-8-A-Bull wrote:

Response I have to hate. I'm a Muslim christian jew now. Your simple 1 book morality is no match to my 3 booker. You can't possibly no right from wrong. You don't even believe in a second opinion.

But at least you would be truthful to yourself.
And if that's your thing . That's YOUR thing.

Response: Exactly. As an atheist I don't know right from wrong.
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7/29/2016 11:31:59 PM
Posted: 4 months ago
At 7/29/2016 11:21:11 PM, bigotry wrote:
At 7/29/2016 1:05:28 PM, Deb-8-A-Bull wrote:
What would tomorrow be like. ?

I would just make up my own moral code that benefits myself

How could you ?
You never made up your own mind before without help.
Your like a 5 year old
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7/29/2016 11:56:26 PM
Posted: 4 months ago
At 7/29/2016 11:31:33 PM, Fatihah wrote:
At 7/29/2016 11:28:51 PM, Deb-8-A-Bull wrote:

Response I have to hate. I'm a Muslim christian jew now. Your simple 1 book morality is no match to my 3 booker. You can't possibly no right from wrong. You don't even believe in a second opinion.

But at least you would be truthful to yourself.
And if that's your thing . That's YOUR thing.

Response: Exactly. As an atheist I don't know right from wrong.

As an alleged Muslim, you don't know right from wrong.
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7/30/2016 12:11:38 AM
Posted: 4 months ago
At 7/29/2016 11:56:26 PM, DanneJeRusse wrote:

As an alleged Muslim, you don't know right from wrong.

Response: Says the deluded, indecent atheist.
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7/30/2016 12:20:41 AM
Posted: 4 months ago
At 7/29/2016 11:21:11 PM, bigotry wrote:
At 7/29/2016 1:05:28 PM, Deb-8-A-Bull wrote:
What would tomorrow be like. ?

I would just make up my own moral code that benefits myself

This is why these people need religion, they have neither the guts nor the brains to think for themselves.
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7/30/2016 12:26:09 AM
Posted: 4 months ago
At 7/29/2016 11:31:33 PM, Fatihah wrote:
At 7/29/2016 11:28:51 PM, Deb-8-A-Bull wrote:

Response I have to hate. I'm a Muslim christian jew now. Your simple 1 book morality is no match to my 3 booker. You can't possibly no right from wrong. You don't even believe in a second opinion.

But at least you would be truthful to yourself.
And if that's your thing . That's YOUR thing.

Response: Exactly. As an atheist I don't know right from wrong.

So you're basically implying that you need a god/book to distinguish right from wrong instead of making up a rational opinion on what's right and wrong yourself. Something shouldn't be wrong because it's a "sin" but because you're harming someone (for example).

Religious people already have a set of guidelines they follow as rules for their morality, in the meantime, atheists, have actual meaningful moral opinions, as they don't just claim, "God told me not to commit this, therefore, I abide by his laws."
In most cases, religious people, are also scared of the idea of something like "Jahannam", "Gehenna" and other places along those lines, which supposedly punish those who commit wrongdoings.

If the only thing that's stopping you from committing wrongdoings is a supernatural being, then, it isn't very re-assuring about your supposed moral superiority.

Did you know that Atheists are under-represented in prison, and more religious nations have higher rates of violent crime,teen pregnancy, early adult mortality and even abortion?
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7/30/2016 12:36:39 AM
Posted: 4 months ago
At 7/29/2016 1:05:28 PM, Deb-8-A-Bull wrote:
What would tomorrow be like. ?

Meaningless. Pointless. Sad. All because life would have no point.
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7/30/2016 12:40:00 AM
Posted: 4 months ago
At 7/30/2016 12:26:09 AM, foxxhajti wrote:

So you're basically implying that you need a god/book to distinguish right from wrong instead of making up a rational opinion on what's right and wrong yourself. Something shouldn't be wrong because it's a "sin" but because you're harming someone (for example).

Religious people already have a set of guidelines they follow as rules for their morality, in the meantime, atheists, have actual meaningful moral opinions, as they don't just claim, "God told me not to commit this, therefore, I abide by his laws."
In most cases, religious people, are also scared of the idea of something like "Jahannam", "Gehenna" and other places along those lines, which supposedly punish those who commit wrongdoings.

If the only thing that's stopping you from committing wrongdoings is a supernatural being, then, it isn't very re-assuring about your supposed moral superiority.

Did you know that Atheists are under-represented in prison, and more religious nations have higher rates of violent crime,teen pregnancy, early adult mortality and even abortion?

Response: To the contrary, I'm saying right and wrong was determined by God and religion was prescribed by God since the first man human created to know what is right and wrong. So even atheists know right and wrong because their values come from an upbringing or society who adapted right and wrong from religion.

You were not born knowing anything. You learned values from your parents and society who got it from religion. So atheists morals come from religion, except the concept of compassion because that's the only reason why atheists are atheists. they want God to do what they want and since He doesn't they say God does not exist.

Whether atheists want to acknowledge God and religion does not change the fact that their existence and morality comes from God and religion. Not some ape-like evolution process where one day you evolved morals.
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7/30/2016 12:42:58 AM
Posted: 4 months ago
At 7/29/2016 11:16:49 PM, Fatihah wrote:
At 7/29/2016 11:13:17 PM, Deb-8-A-Bull wrote:

Why pointless. Do you hate yourself that much. Is your belief the only reason why your still alive. That's sad , cheer up big fella.

Unguided morality , I've been living 37 years with no rules, that's more morality then a book would give. If your books different then the Christians book and your both claiming morality , I'll read both of them imagine my morality then , I'll even chuck in a few more religious books.

Response: I have to hate. I'm an atheist now. Without religion, I can kill, murder party, have sex with whomever, and other pointless acts, then tell other people their wrong and deluded even though I'm the atheist so clearly I'm deluded.

And yet, very few do.
Meh!
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7/30/2016 12:43:26 AM
Posted: 4 months ago
At 7/29/2016 11:31:33 PM, Fatihah wrote:
At 7/29/2016 11:28:51 PM, Deb-8-A-Bull wrote:

Response I have to hate. I'm a Muslim christian jew now. Your simple 1 book morality is no match to my 3 booker. You can't possibly no right from wrong. You don't even believe in a second opinion.

But at least you would be truthful to yourself.
And if that's your thing . That's YOUR thing.

Response: Exactly. As an atheist I don't know right from wrong.

You already don't know right from wrong :/
Meh!
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7/30/2016 12:46:06 AM
Posted: 4 months ago
At 7/30/2016 12:36:39 AM, dsjpk5 wrote:
At 7/29/2016 1:05:28 PM, Deb-8-A-Bull wrote:
What would tomorrow be like. ?

Meaningless. Pointless. Sad. All because life would have no point.

So when you awake the next day , your so called morals are completely gone.

Meaningless , is a belief " BELIEF " all you have in life that has meaning to you.
That's truly sad.

Life has no point , without a belief. WTF.
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7/30/2016 12:50:22 AM
Posted: 4 months ago
At 7/30/2016 12:36:39 AM, dsjpk5 wrote:
At 7/29/2016 1:05:28 PM, Deb-8-A-Bull wrote:
What would tomorrow be like. ?

Meaningless. Pointless. Sad. All because life would have no point.

This is a unreal response.
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7/30/2016 1:47:46 AM
Posted: 4 months ago
At 7/29/2016 11:31:59 PM, Deb-8-A-Bull wrote:
At 7/29/2016 11:21:11 PM, bigotry wrote:
At 7/29/2016 1:05:28 PM, Deb-8-A-Bull wrote:
What would tomorrow be like. ?

I would just make up my own moral code that benefits myself

How could you ?
You never made up your own mind before without help.
Your like a 5 year old
What do you mean?
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7/30/2016 1:48:43 AM
Posted: 4 months ago
At 7/30/2016 12:20:41 AM, bulproof wrote:
At 7/29/2016 11:21:11 PM, bigotry wrote:
At 7/29/2016 1:05:28 PM, Deb-8-A-Bull wrote:
What would tomorrow be like. ?

I would just make up my own moral code that benefits myself

This is why these people need religion, they have neither the guts nor the brains to think for themselves.

Truth is truth, if you choose to believe a lie well, you get your reward for that.
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7/30/2016 1:48:44 AM
Posted: 4 months ago
At 7/30/2016 12:43:26 AM, Axonly wrote:
At 7/29/2016 11:31:33 PM, Fatihah wrote:
At 7/29/2016 11:28:51 PM, Deb-8-A-Bull wrote:

Response I have to hate. I'm a Muslim christian jew now. Your simple 1 book morality is no match to my 3 booker. You can't possibly no right from wrong. You don't even believe in a second opinion.

But at least you would be truthful to yourself.
And if that's your thing . That's YOUR thing.

Response: Exactly. As an atheist I don't know right from wrong.

You already don't know right from wrong :/

Response: Your weak rebuttal shows otherwise.
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7/30/2016 2:00:23 AM
Posted: 4 months ago
At 7/29/2016 1:05:28 PM, Deb-8-A-Bull wrote:
What would tomorrow be like?

Deb, most people of faith don't hold their beliefs in isolation. They have family, friends, a faith community bound by common rituals and traditions, a shared society that can extend into workplace, sports, support networks, family rituals -- a whole social identity.

So there's often a broad and deep social dimension to religion, and denouncing religious belief isn't a small deal for many people. It could be as hard -- or harder -- as coming out as gay, and I have friends struggling to live irreligiously in communities that expect and assume religious adherence, and have no place for you if you're not.

It's one thing to talk about the validity and truth of religious doctrine as we often do here on DDO, but I think asking people to question in a community that considers questions antisocial, or claims to have all the answers, is a much bigger demand psychologically and socially than some of our irreligious members may realise.
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7/30/2016 2:30:40 AM
Posted: 4 months ago
At 7/30/2016 1:48:44 AM, Fatihah wrote:
At 7/30/2016 12:43:26 AM, Axonly wrote:
At 7/29/2016 11:31:33 PM, Fatihah wrote:
At 7/29/2016 11:28:51 PM, Deb-8-A-Bull wrote:

Response I have to hate. I'm a Muslim christian jew now. Your simple 1 book morality is no match to my 3 booker. You can't possibly no right from wrong. You don't even believe in a second opinion.

But at least you would be truthful to yourself.
And if that's your thing . That's YOUR thing.

Response: Exactly. As an atheist I don't know right from wrong.

You already don't know right from wrong :/

Response: Your weak rebuttal shows otherwise.

The irony.
Meh!
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7/30/2016 2:49:42 AM
Posted: 4 months ago
At 7/29/2016 1:05:28 PM, Deb-8-A-Bull wrote:
What would tomorrow be like. ?

pretty much the same... but still some questions will bother me..
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7/30/2016 2:59:41 AM
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At 7/29/2016 1:05:28 PM, Deb-8-A-Bull wrote:
What would tomorrow be like. ?

One massive existential crisis.
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