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lightseeker
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7/29/2016 6:06:03 PM
Posted: 4 months ago
well I made this topic to ask you guys, what is human's worth according to you or your religion or Ideology ...

what's our value, our worth, our price?

thank you for participating.
Harikrish
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7/29/2016 6:12:45 PM
Posted: 4 months ago
At 7/29/2016 6:06:03 PM, lightseeker wrote:
well I made this topic to ask you guys, what is human's worth according to you or your religion or Ideology ...

what's our value, our worth, our price?

thank you for participating.

You are in the wrong forum if you want to know what people are willing to accept as their worth, value or price. You might be better off joining Craigslist for that type of information.
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7/29/2016 6:23:23 PM
Posted: 4 months ago
At 7/29/2016 6:12:45 PM, Harikrish wrote:
At 7/29/2016 6:06:03 PM, lightseeker wrote:
well I made this topic to ask you guys, what is human's worth according to you or your religion or Ideology ...

what's our value, our worth, our price?

thank you for participating.

You are in the wrong forum if you want to know what people are willing to accept as their worth, value or price. You might be better off joining Craigslist for that type of information.

everyone must at least have an Idea about his/her own worth, that he/she tries to achieve in life.
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7/29/2016 6:38:10 PM
Posted: 4 months ago
I think some people are more valuable, those with no tunnel vision of the rest, but it can be equally the same.
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7/29/2016 6:49:01 PM
Posted: 4 months ago
According to the particular brand of Islam the OP embraces, "human's worth" can't be that high. A novelist can be sentenced to death by a religious Iranian sociopath for writing a work of fiction, a novel.
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7/29/2016 6:51:25 PM
Posted: 4 months ago
At 7/29/2016 6:38:10 PM, loveymore wrote:
I think some people are more valuable, those with no tunnel vision of the rest, but it can be equally the same.

thanks for the answer. but what is it that gives them more value? and ultimately, what do you think is the true value of humans?
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7/29/2016 7:00:04 PM
Posted: 4 months ago
At 7/29/2016 6:06:03 PM, lightseeker wrote:
well I made this topic to ask you guys, what is human's worth according to you or your religion or Ideology ...

what's our value, our worth, our price?

thank you for participating.

Priceless.

Only a barbarian would think of placing a money value on a person.
The metaphysicist has no laboratory.
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7/29/2016 7:05:04 PM
Posted: 4 months ago
At 7/29/2016 6:06:03 PM, lightseeker wrote:
well I made this topic to ask you guys, what is human's worth according to you or your religion or Ideology ...

what's our value, our worth, our price?

thank you for participating.

I heard a interview with a billionaire 2 weeks ago, he was asked pretty much the same question , and his response was.
The chemicals that make us cost about $7.30.
I liked that response
lightseeker
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7/29/2016 7:07:21 PM
Posted: 4 months ago
At 7/29/2016 7:00:04 PM, Looncall wrote:
At 7/29/2016 6:06:03 PM, lightseeker wrote:
well I made this topic to ask you guys, what is human's worth according to you or your religion or Ideology ...

what's our value, our worth, our price?

thank you for participating.

Priceless.

Only a barbarian would think of placing a money value on a person.

all right. but what is it that makes a human priceless? and are all humans priceless as they are ?
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7/29/2016 7:08:44 PM
Posted: 4 months ago
At 7/29/2016 7:05:04 PM, Deb-8-A-Bull wrote:
At 7/29/2016 6:06:03 PM, lightseeker wrote:
well I made this topic to ask you guys, what is human's worth according to you or your religion or Ideology ...

what's our value, our worth, our price?

thank you for participating.

I heard a interview with a billionaire 2 weeks ago, he was asked pretty much the same question , and his response was.
The chemicals that make us cost about $7.30.
I liked that response

so you're saying a person has no inherent value and his value is based on the properties that he owns?
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7/29/2016 7:23:01 PM
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I see true value in reflection of values of our creator, which can be reflected on us. More it can be reflected, better value it has.
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7/29/2016 7:27:50 PM
Posted: 4 months ago
At 7/29/2016 7:23:01 PM, loveymore wrote:
I see true value in reflection of values of our creator, which can be reflected on us. More it can be reflected, better value it has.

what are the values of our creator that you're referring to?
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7/29/2016 7:55:14 PM
Posted: 4 months ago
At 7/29/2016 7:27:50 PM, lightseeker wrote:
At 7/29/2016 7:23:01 PM, loveymore wrote:
I see true value in reflection of values of our creator, which can be reflected on us. More it can be reflected, better value it has.

what are the values of our creator that you're referring to?

There are many,
but we can reflect to some degree things that last or bring stability, like love, compassion, patience, etc.
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7/29/2016 7:59:44 PM
Posted: 4 months ago
At 7/29/2016 7:55:14 PM, loveymore wrote:
At 7/29/2016 7:27:50 PM, lightseeker wrote:
At 7/29/2016 7:23:01 PM, loveymore wrote:
I see true value in reflection of values of our creator, which can be reflected on us. More it can be reflected, better value it has.

what are the values of our creator that you're referring to?

There are many,
but we can reflect to some degree things that last or bring stability, like love, compassion, patience, etc.

You would need to be a cynic to put a price on a human being.
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7/29/2016 8:04:10 PM
Posted: 4 months ago
At 7/29/2016 7:07:21 PM, lightseeker wrote:
At 7/29/2016 7:00:04 PM, Looncall wrote:
At 7/29/2016 6:06:03 PM, lightseeker wrote:
well I made this topic to ask you guys, what is human's worth according to you or your religion or Ideology ...

what's our value, our worth, our price?

thank you for participating.

Priceless.

Only a barbarian would think of placing a money value on a person.

all right. but what is it that makes a human priceless? and are all humans priceless as they are ?

Everyone has value, even if only as a bad example.
The metaphysicist has no laboratory.
lightseeker
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7/29/2016 8:16:36 PM
Posted: 4 months ago
At 7/29/2016 7:55:14 PM, loveymore wrote:
At 7/29/2016 7:27:50 PM, lightseeker wrote:
At 7/29/2016 7:23:01 PM, loveymore wrote:
I see true value in reflection of values of our creator, which can be reflected on us. More it can be reflected, better value it has.

what are the values of our creator that you're referring to?

There are many,
but we can reflect to some degree things that last or bring stability, like love, compassion, patience, etc.

so the more a person acquires these attributes, the more valuable he'll become, right? so basically you're saying a person's value, equals the divine attributes that he's acquired?
but love, patience and compassion are just tools. you can love good things and bad things. you can use patience to reach your good or bad goals. or feel compassion with good or bad people.
don't you feel they should be aimed at something great to make a person valuable? what is that thing in your opinion?
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7/29/2016 8:18:45 PM
Posted: 4 months ago
At 7/29/2016 7:59:44 PM, desmac wrote:
At 7/29/2016 7:55:14 PM, loveymore wrote:
At 7/29/2016 7:27:50 PM, lightseeker wrote:
At 7/29/2016 7:23:01 PM, loveymore wrote:
I see true value in reflection of values of our creator, which can be reflected on us. More it can be reflected, better value it has.

what are the values of our creator that you're referring to?

There are many,
but we can reflect to some degree things that last or bring stability, like love, compassion, patience, etc.

You would need to be a cynic to put a price on a human being.

everything has a price and a value. I'm just asking what is the value of human beings?
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7/29/2016 8:22:41 PM
Posted: 4 months ago
At 7/29/2016 7:08:44 PM, lightseeker wrote:
At 7/29/2016 7:05:04 PM, Deb-8-A-Bull wrote:
At 7/29/2016 6:06:03 PM, lightseeker wrote:
well I made this topic to ask you guys, what is human's worth according to you or your religion or Ideology ...

what's our value, our worth, our price?

thank you for participating.

I heard a interview with a billionaire 2 weeks ago, he was asked pretty much the same question , and his response was.
The chemicals that make us cost about $7.30.
I liked that response

so you're saying a person has no inherent value and his value is based on the properties that he owns?

I just went and asked me mum.
She said all the money in the world could not buy me.
That's like a hundred million bucks . And fourty three. Fifty.
And twenty-seven .
That's lots hey.?
Not meaning to boast or nothing , but I might just be the most expensive person on this whole site. Definitely the most expensive in the religion forum.
And twelve.
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7/29/2016 8:27:55 PM
Posted: 4 months ago
At 7/29/2016 8:16:36 PM, lightseeker wrote:
At 7/29/2016 7:55:14 PM, loveymore wrote:
At 7/29/2016 7:27:50 PM, lightseeker wrote:
At 7/29/2016 7:23:01 PM, loveymore wrote:
I see true value in reflection of values of our creator, which can be reflected on us. More it can be reflected, better value it has.

what are the values of our creator that you're referring to?

There are many,
but we can reflect to some degree things that last or bring stability, like love, compassion, patience, etc.

so the more a person acquires these attributes, the more valuable he'll become, right? so basically you're saying a person's value, equals the divine attributes that he's acquired?
but love, patience and compassion are just tools. you can love good things and bad things. you can use patience to reach your good or bad goals. or feel compassion with good or bad people.
don't you feel they should be aimed at something great to make a person valuable? what is that thing in your opinion?

At 7/29/2016 8:16:36 PM, lightseeker wrote:
At 7/29/2016 7:55:14 PM, loveymore wrote:
At 7/29/2016 7:27:50 PM, lightseeker wrote:
At 7/29/2016 7:23:01 PM, loveymore wrote:
I see true value in reflection of values of our creator, which can be reflected on us. More it can be reflected, better value it has.

what are the values of our creator that you're referring to?

There are many,
but we can reflect to some degree things that last or bring stability, like love, compassion, patience, etc.

so the more a person acquires these attributes, the more valuable he'll become, right? so basically you're saying a person's value, equals the divine attributes that he's acquired?
but love, patience and compassion are just tools. you can love good things and bad things. you can use patience to reach your good or bad goals. or feel compassion with good or bad people.
don't you feel they should be aimed at something great to make a person valuable? what is that thing in your opinion?

I think compassion needs understanding which some may have for bad people only, but more they work on it, more valuable they become, or less if they do not.
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7/29/2016 8:49:23 PM
Posted: 4 months ago
At 7/29/2016 6:23:23 PM, lightseeker wrote:
At 7/29/2016 6:12:45 PM, Harikrish wrote:
At 7/29/2016 6:06:03 PM, lightseeker wrote:
well I made this topic to ask you guys, what is human's worth according to you or your religion or Ideology ...

what's our value, our worth, our price?

thank you for participating.

You are in the wrong forum if you want to know what people are willing to accept as their worth, value or price. You might be better off joining Craigslist for that type of information.

everyone must at least have an Idea about his/her own worth, that he/she tries to achieve in life.

But that is a private personal matter. You need to join Craigslist to find people who advertise their price to the public.
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7/29/2016 9:05:50 PM
Posted: 4 months ago
At 7/29/2016 8:18:45 PM, lightseeker wrote:
At 7/29/2016 7:59:44 PM, desmac wrote:
At 7/29/2016 7:55:14 PM, loveymore wrote:
At 7/29/2016 7:27:50 PM, lightseeker wrote:
At 7/29/2016 7:23:01 PM, loveymore wrote:
I see true value in reflection of values of our creator, which can be reflected on us. More it can be reflected, better value it has.

what are the values of our creator that you're referring to?

There are many,
but we can reflect to some degree things that last or bring stability, like love, compassion, patience, etc.

You would need to be a cynic to put a price on a human being.

everything has a price and a value. I'm just asking what is the value of human beings?

Not everything has a price. What price a rainbow or a child's smile?
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7/30/2016 12:48:55 AM
Posted: 4 months ago
At 7/29/2016 8:18:45 PM, lightseeker wrote:
At 7/29/2016 7:59:44 PM, desmac wrote:
At 7/29/2016 7:55:14 PM, loveymore wrote:
At 7/29/2016 7:27:50 PM, lightseeker wrote:
At 7/29/2016 7:23:01 PM, loveymore wrote:
I see true value in reflection of values of our creator, which can be reflected on us. More it can be reflected, better value it has.

what are the values of our creator that you're referring to?

There are many,
but we can reflect to some degree things that last or bring stability, like love, compassion, patience, etc.

You would need to be a cynic to put a price on a human being.

everything has a price and a value. I'm just asking what is the value of human beings?

I suppose that this is what one should expect of one who follows a religion that has pronounced tendencies toward the practice of slavery.
The metaphysicist has no laboratory.
lightseeker
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7/30/2016 1:36:01 AM
Posted: 4 months ago
At 7/29/2016 8:22:41 PM, Deb-8-A-Bull wrote:
At 7/29/2016 7:08:44 PM, lightseeker wrote:
At 7/29/2016 7:05:04 PM, Deb-8-A-Bull wrote:
At 7/29/2016 6:06:03 PM, lightseeker wrote:
well I made this topic to ask you guys, what is human's worth according to you or your religion or Ideology ...

what's our value, our worth, our price?

thank you for participating.

I heard a interview with a billionaire 2 weeks ago, he was asked pretty much the same question , and his response was.
The chemicals that make us cost about $7.30.
I liked that response

so you're saying a person has no inherent value and his value is based on the properties that he owns?

I just went and asked me mum.
She said all the money in the world could not buy me.
That's like a hundred million bucks . And fourty three. Fifty.
And twenty-seven .
That's lots hey.?
Not meaning to boast or nothing , but I might just be the most expensive person on this whole site. Definitely the most expensive in the religion forum.
And twelve.

so you're giving yourself a monetary net worth as some millionaires do? and it's like a hundred million bucks ? ...
lightseeker
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7/30/2016 2:05:49 AM
Posted: 4 months ago
At 7/29/2016 8:49:23 PM, Harikrish wrote:
At 7/29/2016 6:23:23 PM, lightseeker wrote:
At 7/29/2016 6:12:45 PM, Harikrish wrote:
At 7/29/2016 6:06:03 PM, lightseeker wrote:
well I made this topic to ask you guys, what is human's worth according to you or your religion or Ideology ...

what's our value, our worth, our price?

thank you for participating.

You are in the wrong forum if you want to know what people are willing to accept as their worth, value or price. You might be better off joining Craigslist for that type of information.

everyone must at least have an Idea about his/her own worth, that he/she tries to achieve in life.

But that is a private personal matter. You need to join Craigslist to find people who advertise their price to the public.

human's goals can more or less be categorized into a couple of branches. 1- achieving beauty/physical power/physical health/... which is based on vegetable aspects of humans. humans, like vegetables, have physical bodies and they eat and they grow. 2- goals about the animal aspects of humans, goals about family, wealth and power, social life, their place of living, entertainment, work, choices, ... 3- goals about spiritual aspects of humans, like seeking God, afterlife, spiritual health and power, ...

in this regard, we have only 3 aspects, don't you think?
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7/30/2016 2:11:25 AM
Posted: 4 months ago
At 7/29/2016 9:05:50 PM, desmac wrote:
At 7/29/2016 8:18:45 PM, lightseeker wrote:
At 7/29/2016 7:59:44 PM, desmac wrote:
At 7/29/2016 7:55:14 PM, loveymore wrote:
At 7/29/2016 7:27:50 PM, lightseeker wrote:
At 7/29/2016 7:23:01 PM, loveymore wrote:
I see true value in reflection of values of our creator, which can be reflected on us. More it can be reflected, better value it has.

what are the values of our creator that you're referring to?

There are many,
but we can reflect to some degree things that last or bring stability, like love, compassion, patience, etc.

You would need to be a cynic to put a price on a human being.

everything has a price and a value. I'm just asking what is the value of human beings?

Not everything has a price. What price a rainbow or a child's smile?

when mentioning price, why you automatically think that i meant a monetary price?
a rainbow's worth, can be equal to the sense of happiness or joy it brings to people's hearts.
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7/30/2016 2:17:07 AM
Posted: 4 months ago
At 7/30/2016 12:48:55 AM, Looncall wrote:
At 7/29/2016 8:18:45 PM, lightseeker wrote:
At 7/29/2016 7:59:44 PM, desmac wrote:
At 7/29/2016 7:55:14 PM, loveymore wrote:
At 7/29/2016 7:27:50 PM, lightseeker wrote:
At 7/29/2016 7:23:01 PM, loveymore wrote:
I see true value in reflection of values of our creator, which can be reflected on us. More it can be reflected, better value it has.

what are the values of our creator that you're referring to?

There are many,
but we can reflect to some degree things that last or bring stability, like love, compassion, patience, etc.

You would need to be a cynic to put a price on a human being.

everything has a price and a value. I'm just asking what is the value of human beings?

I suppose that this is what one should expect of one who follows a religion that has pronounced tendencies toward the practice of slavery.

first of all, I really don't want to talk about whether or not we believe in slavery here. that claim has been mentioned and refuted more than enough in this forum. though if you still didn't find a good answer, find the right topic and post your question, and I'll answer it. just let me know about it.

and by price, why you automatically thought that I meant a monetary price? is that the only price you know for humans?
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7/30/2016 8:50:56 AM
Posted: 4 months ago
At 7/30/2016 2:17:07 AM, lightseeker wrote:
At 7/30/2016 12:48:55 AM, Looncall wrote:
At 7/29/2016 8:18:45 PM, lightseeker wrote:
At 7/29/2016 7:59:44 PM, desmac wrote:
At 7/29/2016 7:55:14 PM, loveymore wrote:
At 7/29/2016 7:27:50 PM, lightseeker wrote:
At 7/29/2016 7:23:01 PM, loveymore wrote:
I see true value in reflection of values of our creator, which can be reflected on us. More it can be reflected, better value it has.

what are the values of our creator that you're referring to?

There are many,
but we can reflect to some degree things that last or bring stability, like love, compassion, patience, etc.

You would need to be a cynic to put a price on a human being.

everything has a price and a value. I'm just asking what is the value of human beings?

I suppose that this is what one should expect of one who follows a religion that has pronounced tendencies toward the practice of slavery.

first of all, I really don't want to talk about whether or not we believe in slavery here. that claim has been mentioned and refuted more than enough in this forum. though if you still didn't find a good answer, find the right topic and post your question, and I'll answer it. just let me know about it.

and by price, why you automatically thought that I meant a monetary price? is that the only price you know for humans?

I find the idea of assigning a price of any kind to a person to be obscene. A price is something exchanged for goods. Much evil comes from treating persons as commodities.
The metaphysicist has no laboratory.
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7/30/2016 10:23:16 AM
Posted: 4 months ago
At 7/30/2016 8:50:56 AM, Looncall wrote:
At 7/30/2016 2:17:07 AM, lightseeker wrote:
At 7/30/2016 12:48:55 AM, Looncall wrote:
At 7/29/2016 8:18:45 PM, lightseeker wrote:
At 7/29/2016 7:59:44 PM, desmac wrote:
At 7/29/2016 7:55:14 PM, loveymore wrote:
At 7/29/2016 7:27:50 PM, lightseeker wrote:
At 7/29/2016 7:23:01 PM, loveymore wrote:
I see true value in reflection of values of our creator, which can be reflected on us. More it can be reflected, better value it has.

what are the values of our creator that you're referring to?

There are many,
but we can reflect to some degree things that last or bring stability, like love, compassion, patience, etc.

You would need to be a cynic to put a price on a human being.

everything has a price and a value. I'm just asking what is the value of human beings?

I suppose that this is what one should expect of one who follows a religion that has pronounced tendencies toward the practice of slavery.

first of all, I really don't want to talk about whether or not we believe in slavery here. that claim has been mentioned and refuted more than enough in this forum. though if you still didn't find a good answer, find the right topic and post your question, and I'll answer it. just let me know about it.

and by price, why you automatically thought that I meant a monetary price? is that the only price you know for humans?

I find the idea of assigning a price of any kind to a person to be obscene. A price is something exchanged for goods. Much evil comes from treating persons as commodities.

let me give you an example. consider the best person you know, and the worst one. there is obviously a reason you think of them as good or bad. and the more of that reason a person has, according to you, he'll become better or worse, in other words, more valuable or less. by worth or value, I meant that, not a monetary value or something of that sort.
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7/30/2016 10:47:51 AM
Posted: 4 months ago
At 7/29/2016 8:18:45 PM, lightseeker wrote:

everything has a price and a value.
Says you?
I'll pass thanks.
Religion is just mind control. George Carlin