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Chloe8
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8/10/2016 1:05:44 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
Are you a strong atheist or a weak atheist?

I am a weak atheist regarding the existence of deities but a strong atheist regarding the existence of the specific deities of every religion.
Deb-8-A-Bull
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8/10/2016 1:12:40 AM
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At 8/10/2016 1:05:44 AM, Chloe8 wrote:
Are you a strong atheist or a weak atheist?

I am a weak atheist regarding the existence of deities but a strong atheist regarding the existence of the specific deities of every religion.

I'm a weak Atheists. Because I know I should be Agnostic.
But I don't like it.
Double_R
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8/10/2016 1:25:20 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 8/10/2016 1:05:44 AM, Chloe8 wrote:
Are you a strong atheist or a weak atheist?

I am a weak atheist regarding the existence of deities but a strong atheist regarding the existence of the specific deities of every religion.

I would pretty much take the same position. Deities in general are vague concepts that there is no way to disprove or even present a real rational argument against. But as soon as you start getting to the specifics (sends people to hell, forbids us from masturbating, etc.) then it just starts to get ridiculous, if not self contradictory.
Skepticalone
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8/10/2016 1:55:29 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 8/10/2016 1:05:44 AM, Chloe8 wrote:
Are you a strong atheist or a weak atheist?

I am a weak atheist regarding the existence of deities but a strong atheist regarding the existence of the specific deities of every religion.

Same.
Science has taught us that, because we have a talent for deceiving ourselves, subjectivity may not freely reign. - Carl Sagan

The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, and wiser people so full of doubts. - Bertrand Russell
desmac
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8/10/2016 6:34:45 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
In the unlikely event of there being gods out there, let them get on with it,I say. Live and let live.Should they wish to impinge on the real world let them make themselves known.
Organised religion , on the other hand, is a completely different kettle of fish. I believe ALL organised religions are inherently evil and were/are created soley to give power, money, sex and social status to their hierarchies.
RuvDraba
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8/10/2016 7:54:21 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 8/10/2016 1:05:44 AM, Chloe8 wrote:
Are you a strong atheist or a weak atheist?
I am a weak atheist regarding the existence of deities but a strong atheist regarding the existence of the specific deities of every religion.

I'm a strong atheist Chloe, because 'deity' has no meaning other than theological, and all theology is either false or invalid.
Willows
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8/10/2016 8:14:41 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 8/10/2016 1:05:44 AM, Chloe8 wrote:
Are you a strong atheist or a weak atheist?

I am a weak atheist regarding the existence of deities but a strong atheist regarding the existence of the specific deities of every religion.

I think deities is more like a weak religion, nevertheless, like all religion is pure speculation and can be dismissed as false owing to lack of evidence.

When I think about it I would probably be 99.9% athiest and 0.1% agnostic since there is still no confirmed evidence as to how (anti) matter came to be. They're working on it and will probably have an answer before long. When is happens though, will that stop some people believing in fairy tales and a fairyland afterlife? I doubt it.
dhardage
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8/10/2016 2:25:49 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
I have a hard time determining this because I completely reject the supernatural, hence any deity claimed to be of that nature. I don't claim to be absolutely certain because it's impossible to know everything so I must go on the evidence available to me. I'll leave it to others to categorize that.
Chaosism
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8/10/2016 2:34:32 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 8/10/2016 1:05:44 AM, Chloe8 wrote:
Are you a strong atheist or a weak atheist?

I am a weak atheist regarding the existence of deities but a strong atheist regarding the existence of the specific deities of every religion.

I'm a strong atheist towards all notions of god, which is a position derived largely from psychology. A tiny glimpse into some of my reasoning can be found in R2 of this debate: http://www.debate.org....

I don't find deism to be worthy of recognition; it's essentially logically equivalent to atheism.
RuvDraba
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8/10/2016 5:02:51 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 8/10/2016 2:34:32 PM, Chaosism wrote:
At 8/10/2016 1:05:44 AM, Chloe8 wrote:
Are you a strong atheist or a weak atheist?

I'm a strong atheist towards all notions of god, which is a position derived largely from psychology. A tiny glimpse into some of my reasoning can be found in R2 of this debate: http://www.debate.org....

Chaosism, that was very carefully researched and well-argued -- and, I suspect, largely wasted on the member you were debating. It's hard to communicate the idea that there's no evidence for gods other than inherited beliefs, and that we already have better explanations for belief than that gods exist, but I thought you made the case really well.

My compliments!
Fly
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8/10/2016 5:53:24 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 8/10/2016 1:05:44 AM, Chloe8 wrote:
Are you a strong atheist or a weak atheist?

I am a weak atheist regarding the existence of deities but a strong atheist regarding the existence of the specific deities of every religion.

It's too bad that someone has to be an atheist in order to understand atheism around here...
"Put up or shut up" time-- my debate with Yassine:

http://www.debate.org...
Chaosism
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8/10/2016 6:00:41 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 8/10/2016 5:02:51 PM, RuvDraba wrote:
At 8/10/2016 2:34:32 PM, Chaosism wrote:
At 8/10/2016 1:05:44 AM, Chloe8 wrote:
Are you a strong atheist or a weak atheist?

I'm a strong atheist towards all notions of god, which is a position derived largely from psychology. A tiny glimpse into some of my reasoning can be found in R2 of this debate: http://www.debate.org....

Chaosism, that was very carefully researched and well-argued -- and, I suspect, largely wasted on the member you were debating. It's hard to communicate the idea that there's no evidence for gods other than inherited beliefs, and that we already have better explanations for belief than that gods exist, but I thought you made the case really well.

My compliments!

Yeah, that was a waste. And thank you - I've put a decent amount of effort into my psychology research, overall. :)
Chaosism
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8/10/2016 6:15:04 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 8/10/2016 7:40:04 AM, UUU wrote:
Chloe8,

Are you sure a lack of belief leaves room for weak and strong?

Atheism entails a lack of belief that a god exists, so this logically includes both those individuals who reject the truth of the claim that a god exists AND those individuals who additionally hold the claim that no god exists to be true.
distraff
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8/10/2016 6:55:24 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 8/10/2016 1:05:44 AM, Chloe8 wrote:
Are you a strong atheist or a weak atheist?

I am a weak atheist regarding the existence of deities but a strong atheist regarding the existence of the specific deities of every religion

I am a weak atheist as well.