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8/22/2016 6:29:10 AM
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At 8/22/2016 5:59:11 AM, riyad70 wrote:
On the long course, what is the goal of atheists ? : :

I am not an atheist but I have many friends who are atheists. Most of them do not have any goal other than to keep experiencing life as they always have without any religious duty that theists feel compelled to do. Since atheists don't dwell on the notion of a god, they get along just fine unless they are attacked by theists who they see as hypocrites.

I've been involved in religious forums for over 9 years now and many of them have been taken over by atheists. Some of these atheists do have a goal to help former theists live life without the religious dogma that enslaved their minds. They are very helpful to these former theists who have learned what hypocrisy is all about.

Other atheists in these forums are only interested in antagonizing theists and arguing with them about the existence of a god. Many atheists are former theists who know more about the bible than most theists and know how to use their interpretations of the scriptures to refute the interpretations of the theists.

What is your goal with this thread?
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8/22/2016 6:56:45 AM
Posted: 3 months ago
At 8/22/2016 6:29:10 AM, picknpull wrote:
At 8/22/2016 5:59:11 AM, riyad70 wrote:
On the long course, what is the goal of atheists ? : :

I am not an atheist but I have many friends who are atheists. Most of them do not have any goal other than to keep experiencing life as they always have without any religious duty that theists feel compelled to do. Since atheists don't dwell on the notion of a god, they get along just fine unless they are attacked by theists who they see as hypocrites.

I've been involved in religious forums for over 9 years now and many of them have been taken over by atheists. Some of these atheists do have a goal to help former theists live life without the religious dogma that enslaved their minds. They are very helpful to these former theists who have learned what hypocrisy is all about.

Other atheists in these forums are only interested in antagonizing theists and arguing with them about the existence of a god. Many atheists are former theists who know more about the bible than most theists and know how to use their interpretations of the scriptures to refute the interpretations of the theists.

What is your goal with this thread?

I'm trying to figure out if atheists have something in common, a goal they want to reach at the end or they just like to argue for the sake of argument itself.
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8/22/2016 7:05:53 AM
Posted: 3 months ago
At 8/22/2016 6:56:45 AM, riyad70 wrote:
At 8/22/2016 6:29:10 AM, picknpull wrote:
At 8/22/2016 5:59:11 AM, riyad70 wrote:
On the long course, what is the goal of atheists ? : :

I am not an atheist but I have many friends who are atheists. Most of them do not have any goal other than to keep experiencing life as they always have without any religious duty that theists feel compelled to do. Since atheists don't dwell on the notion of a god, they get along just fine unless they are attacked by theists who they see as hypocrites.

I've been involved in religious forums for over 9 years now and many of them have been taken over by atheists. Some of these atheists do have a goal to help former theists live life without the religious dogma that enslaved their minds. They are very helpful to these former theists who have learned what hypocrisy is all about.

Other atheists in these forums are only interested in antagonizing theists and arguing with them about the existence of a god. Many atheists are former theists who know more about the bible than most theists and know how to use their interpretations of the scriptures to refute the interpretations of the theists.

What is your goal with this thread?

I'm trying to figure out if atheists have something in common, a goal they want to reach at the end or they just like to argue for the sake of argument itself. : :

Most atheists I know hate being bothered by theists and their hypocrisy. They enjoy life as God planned it for them.
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8/22/2016 7:12:04 AM
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At 8/22/2016 6:56:45 AM, riyad70 wrote:

I'm trying to figure out if atheists have something in common, a goal they want to reach at the end or they just like to argue for the sake of argument itself.

Nothing about being an atheist necessarily entails ideological unity. We do all agree the current theological explanations fall flat but there will still be political/cultural differences among us. There some organizations like the FFRF and secular humanist groups that do advocate for the separation of Church and State though.
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8/22/2016 7:17:14 AM
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At 8/22/2016 5:59:11 AM, riyad70 wrote:
On the long course, what is the goal of atheists ?

Atheists don't share the same ideologies and stuff. We don't all share common goals.
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8/22/2016 7:32:04 AM
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At 8/22/2016 5:59:11 AM, riyad70 wrote:
On the long course, what is the goal of atheists ?

Disbelief that is all.
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8/22/2016 11:02:58 AM
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At 8/22/2016 7:05:53 AM, picknpull wrote:
At 8/22/2016 6:56:45 AM, riyad70 wrote:
At 8/22/2016 6:29:10 AM, picknpull wrote:
At 8/22/2016 5:59:11 AM, riyad70 wrote:
On the long course, what is the goal of atheists ? : :

I am not an atheist but I have many friends who are atheists. Most of them do not have any goal other than to keep experiencing life as they always have without any religious duty that theists feel compelled to do. Since atheists don't dwell on the notion of a god, they get along just fine unless they are attacked by theists who they see as hypocrites.

I've been involved in religious forums for over 9 years now and many of them have been taken over by atheists. Some of these atheists do have a goal to help former theists live life without the religious dogma that enslaved their minds. They are very helpful to these former theists who have learned what hypocrisy is all about.

Other atheists in these forums are only interested in antagonizing theists and arguing with them about the existence of a god. Many atheists are former theists who know more about the bible than most theists and know how to use their interpretations of the scriptures to refute the interpretations of the theists.

What is your goal with this thread?

I'm trying to figure out if atheists have something in common, a goal they want to reach at the end or they just like to argue for the sake of argument itself. : :

Most atheists I know hate being bothered by theists and their hypocrisy. They enjoy life as God planned it for them.

Nice one. :)
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8/22/2016 11:50:58 AM
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At 8/22/2016 5:59:11 AM, riyad70 wrote:
On the long course, what is the goal of atheists ?
Without a common doctrine, creed or worship, Riyad, there's no common goal among atheists. Atheism is a theological category, not a cultural or religious category. You don't need to read the same books, go to the same meetings, have the same customs, or support the same ideas to reject theological beliefs.

Individually though, atheists may get excited about similar things that people of faith do -- except for the theology, worship and afterlife part. We might love science, art, literature, poetry, music, philosophy, love, compassion, justice, peace, children, education, communities, ethics, and the opportunity to somehow improve things for ourselves and families, for our communities, for our fellow man, and for future generations -- any of these.
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8/22/2016 1:08:22 PM
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At 8/22/2016 11:05:35 AM, dee-em wrote:
Oh no. It's Brad again. How long before the mindless preaching starts?
3 2 1 ... : :

Think of it as sharing knowledge, not preaching religion to you like Christians always do.

I can talk about all kinds of things other than our Creator. Try me !!!
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8/22/2016 1:24:42 PM
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At 8/22/2016 1:08:22 PM, picknpull wrote:
At 8/22/2016 11:05:35 AM, dee-em wrote:
Oh no. It's Brad again. How long before the mindless preaching starts?
3 2 1 ... : :

Think of it as sharing knowledge, not preaching religion to you like Christians always do.

I can talk about all kinds of things other than our Creator. Try me !!!

Okay. Did you understand the irony in your post to which I first responded? Was it deliberate or unintentional?
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8/22/2016 1:25:01 PM
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At 8/22/2016 5:59:11 AM, riyad70 wrote:
On the long course, what is the goal of atheists ?
Atheism is the rejection of a theist claim.
What goal do you suppose that entails.
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8/22/2016 1:41:55 PM
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At 8/22/2016 1:24:42 PM, dee-em wrote:
At 8/22/2016 1:08:22 PM, picknpull wrote:
At 8/22/2016 11:05:35 AM, dee-em wrote:
Oh no. It's Brad again. How long before the mindless preaching starts?
3 2 1 ... : :

Think of it as sharing knowledge, not preaching religion to you like Christians always do.

I can talk about all kinds of things other than our Creator. Try me !!!

Okay. Did you understand the irony in your post to which I first responded? Was it deliberate or unintentional? : :

It's only irony from your perspective. I am sharing my experiences that I've had with my atheist friends who hate theists and their hypocrisy. I am not a theist who practices religion and accuses everyone else about their sins without knowing who the hell they are. I know exactly who I am and my atheist friends admire that about me. They like the fact that I know where religion and science came from and why man builds false gods with their human hands. They get a little skeptical when I talk about the future but they know for sure that I'm not a hypocrite.
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8/22/2016 1:44:40 PM
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At 8/22/2016 5:59:11 AM, riyad70 wrote:
On the long course, what is the goal of atheists ?

That there would be no such thing as atheism, which would mean there would be no such thing as theism. That would work quite well.
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8/22/2016 1:44:41 PM
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At 8/22/2016 5:59:11 AM, riyad70 wrote:
On the long course, what is the goal of atheists ?

Gain knowledge, lead a good and fulfilling life, question everything, make the world a better place for those to come. These are my goals. I am an atheist, but these goals are not goals placed on me by atheism. Atheism doesn't really place anything on atheists. Atheism isn't a religion. We don't have one common set of beliefs or rules that we all have to live by. There is no real goal for every atheist to strive for. I set my goals so that I can be a good person, not a good atheist. To complete all of my goals without religious influence is just a bonus.
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8/22/2016 1:59:34 PM
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At 8/22/2016 1:44:40 PM, DanneJeRusse wrote:
At 8/22/2016 5:59:11 AM, riyad70 wrote:
On the long course, what is the goal of atheists ?

That there would be no such thing as atheism, which would mean there would be no such thing as theism. That would work quite well. : :

If it wasn't for God creating us and our experiences, there wouldn't be any theists or atheists. It would be just God creating a different simulation program other than the one we're involved in.
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8/22/2016 5:32:11 PM
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At 8/22/2016 1:59:34 PM, picknpull wrote:
At 8/22/2016 1:44:40 PM, DanneJeRusse wrote:
At 8/22/2016 5:59:11 AM, riyad70 wrote:
On the long course, what is the goal of atheists ?

That there would be no such thing as atheism, which would mean there would be no such thing as theism. That would work quite well. : :

If it wasn't for God creating us and our experiences, there wouldn't be any theists or atheists. It would be just God creating a different simulation program other than the one we're involved in.
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8/22/2016 7:07:16 PM
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At 8/22/2016 5:59:11 AM, riyad70 wrote:
On the long course, what is the goal of atheists ?

My personal goal is to make a lot of money and retire early. Does that help?
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8/22/2016 7:28:22 PM
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At 8/22/2016 5:59:11 AM, riyad70 wrote:
On the long course, what is the goal of atheists ?

Your question assumes that atheists are a unified group. We aren't, so the question has no appropriate answer.
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8/22/2016 8:30:41 PM
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At 8/22/2016 5:59:11 AM, riyad70 wrote:
On the long course, what is the goal of atheists ?

Not to have life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness be put into jeopardy because of what certain sacred writings predict or dictate.
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8/22/2016 9:37:20 PM
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At 8/22/2016 5:59:11 AM, riyad70 wrote:
On the long course, what is the goal of atheists ?

To be able to reproduce children that they believe are simply animals and collateral damage.
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8/23/2016 12:22:19 AM
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At 8/22/2016 1:41:55 PM, picknpull wrote:
At 8/22/2016 1:24:42 PM, dee-em wrote:
At 8/22/2016 1:08:22 PM, picknpull wrote:
At 8/22/2016 11:05:35 AM, dee-em wrote:
Oh no. It's Brad again. How long before the mindless preaching starts?
3 2 1 ... : :

Think of it as sharing knowledge, not preaching religion to you like Christians always do.

I can talk about all kinds of things other than our Creator. Try me !!!

Okay. Did you understand the irony in your post to which I first responded? Was it deliberate or unintentional? : :

It's only irony from your perspective.

To tell atheists that they are enjoying life as God planned it for them is irony by anyone's perspective. That you can't see the contradiction is why having an intelligent conversation with you is nigh on impossible.

I am sharing my experiences that I've had with my atheist friends who hate theists and their hypocrisy. I am not a theist who practices religion and accuses everyone else about their sins without knowing who the hell they are. I know exactly who I am and my atheist friends admire that about me. They like the fact that I know where religion and science came from and why man builds false gods with their human hands. They get a little skeptical when I talk about the future but they know for sure that I'm not a hypocrite.

Hypocrite, no. Mentally ill, yes. If you really do have atheist friends then they either ridicule you or humour you since that is the almost uniform reaction you receive here. I fail to see how it would be any different in real life if you preach at them as the alleged voice of god like you do here incessantly.
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8/23/2016 12:25:42 AM
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At 8/22/2016 1:59:34 PM, picknpull wrote:
At 8/22/2016 1:44:40 PM, DanneJeRusse wrote:
At 8/22/2016 5:59:11 AM, riyad70 wrote:
On the long course, what is the goal of atheists ?

That there would be no such thing as atheism, which would mean there would be no such thing as theism. That would work quite well. : :

If it wasn't for God creating us and our experiences, there wouldn't be any theists or atheists. It would be just God creating a different simulation program other than the one we're involved in.

And right on cue the preaching starts ...
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8/23/2016 8:57:38 AM
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At 8/23/2016 12:22:19 AM, dee-em wrote:
At 8/22/2016 1:41:55 PM, picknpull wrote:
At 8/22/2016 1:24:42 PM, dee-em wrote:
At 8/22/2016 1:08:22 PM, picknpull wrote:
At 8/22/2016 11:05:35 AM, dee-em wrote:
Oh no. It's Brad again. How long before the mindless preaching starts?
3 2 1 ... : :

Think of it as sharing knowledge, not preaching religion to you like Christians always do.

I can talk about all kinds of things other than our Creator. Try me !!!

Okay. Did you understand the irony in your post to which I first responded? Was it deliberate or unintentional? : :

It's only irony from your perspective.

To tell atheists that they are enjoying life as God planned it for them is irony by anyone's perspective. That you can't see the contradiction is why having an intelligent conversation with you is nigh on impossible.

I know who is running the life of atheists so I'm not contradicting anything I've ever said. Atheists don't know how they were created or where they get their thoughts from so my atheist friends appreciate the knowledge I share with them when I talk about the technology that feeds their consciousness with life experiences. I don't have to mention the word "GOD" or "Creator" to teach them how they're created through that technology.

I am sharing my experiences that I've had with my atheist friends who hate theists and their hypocrisy. I am not a theist who practices religion and accuses everyone else about their sins without knowing who the hell they are. I know exactly who I am and my atheist friends admire that about me. They like the fact that I know where religion and science came from and why man builds false gods with their human hands. They get a little skeptical when I talk about the future but they know for sure that I'm not a hypocrite.

Hypocrite, no. Mentally ill, yes. If you really do have atheist friends then they either ridicule you or humour you since that is the almost uniform reaction you receive here. I fail to see how it would be any different in real life if you preach at them as the alleged voice of god like you do here incessantly. : :

You're the hypocrite who is judging me right now. I know exactly how you and all your life experiences were created but I can't help you believe that. That was planned out by your Creator who spoke a simulation program into existence by using the same exact technology that forms you into you.

It's too bad you weren't chosen to listen to the voice of God and obey his commandments. However, you will listen to his voice in Paradise.
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8/23/2016 8:58:28 AM
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At 8/23/2016 12:25:42 AM, dee-em wrote:
At 8/22/2016 1:59:34 PM, picknpull wrote:
At 8/22/2016 1:44:40 PM, DanneJeRusse wrote:
At 8/22/2016 5:59:11 AM, riyad70 wrote:
On the long course, what is the goal of atheists ?

That there would be no such thing as atheism, which would mean there would be no such thing as theism. That would work quite well. : :

If it wasn't for God creating us and our experiences, there wouldn't be any theists or atheists. It would be just God creating a different simulation program other than the one we're involved in.

And right on cue the preaching starts ... : :

It's called sharing knowledge you fool.
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8/23/2016 9:29:33 AM
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At 8/22/2016 7:07:16 PM, matt8800 wrote:
At 8/22/2016 5:59:11 AM, riyad70 wrote:
On the long course, what is the goal of atheists ?

My personal goal is to make a lot of money and retire early. Does that help?

Yeah, very much.

It showed me that my question needs revision.
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8/23/2016 9:32:17 AM
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At 8/22/2016 8:09:48 PM, desmac wrote:
To sow the seeds of doubt.

Very much so, but to reach what ?
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8/23/2016 9:41:00 AM
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Maybe to make it more clear, followers of religions believe they are conveying a message or following a divine guidance which will make life better.

Do atheists believe atheism is better for humanity ?

So far from what I read in the posts, it will make no big difference for atheists whether to declare their atheism or keep it to themselves.